Repeat sellers no Honor
 

Has anybody else here noticed that you see ads from the same people on here constantly but when you look at their info they have never made an Honor payment. I pay for my subscription and also make Honor payments. These people can't say they don't sell or trade on here because if they didn't they wouldn't advertise on the site all the time.

Its sickening eh? Amen brother!

Good thing there are honest guys being a CRJ member and "us" honor paying members that keep this place afloat. What is 1% of a sale? Its peanuts,compaired to selling on other sites.

I know I'll be glad when RJ makes this site a member only site. This will get rid of alot of scammers and freeloaders.I know I get tired of seeing guys that have been here longer than me selling (2002-2003) every day that think RJ owes them a place to sell their stuff for free,because they have 2 free adds and more names than one selling on RJ for free. Not an honor payment,or a CRJ membership

What a bunch of freeloaders,if this strikes a nerve it must be TRUE

Its time to PONY up fellars,it'll only hurt for a second,I promise :P

I see this a couple ways. A guy that uses a single or multiple free accounts to sell should be criticized for not making an honor payment. He is abusing a privelage.

An individual who pays a membership fee should not be called out here. They have paid for a service and are using it. If those at RJ think the income is not enough from memberships, then they need to adjust membership fees accordingly.

I pay to list pieces parts here and my cars occasionally. I also have several other places that I post for free. If or when I sell something thru RJ I try to make an honor payment. As you can see, I have made a couple. The couple I have made have been far more then the required or suggest amount of the sale. Most of the stuff I have sold has been thru other sites or locally. It makes it hard to determine where and when stuff sold if the buyer does not report the item as sold. You can't assume that just because ads come and go that the item was sold on RJ.

How does one see the amounts of the honor payments made? I am pretty sure that both of mine were $50 payments. How does that make my average $23?

guys,this one is for me.......i love this site,i have not made a honor payment yet.i have sold a couple of things and traded parts also....i am going to figure the trade values also with sales and i will send my honor payment friday 2/1. i will do my part to keep a good thing going. thanks for making me think.....thanks big daddy dale

Shawn you'll prolly need to call RJ 1-413-663-3496 and ask for PJ and get it sorted out and adjusted,I am sure he will make things right with you

http://www.racingjunk.com/post/10963...nvertible.html

When ever I do any selling I always call and talk to PJ or Ryan and have it done and pay up with my credit card,thats how I do it and its adjusted as we talk and as soon as I hang up and get online its up to date.Works great,as I never do any online transactions,I don't feel its safe,nore it gets done accurate. JMHO

I was just saying that I have noticed that I have seen the same people on here for a couple of years now and no honor payment. What brought this about was I looked at one of this guys ads today and I can always tell whose it is by the way its listed cause he always has something on here for sale, and I noticed that he has not once made an honor payment. This guy has something for sale everyday but has never made not one honor payment in 3 years. Makes me sick. And I'm not naming any names because he hasn't done anything to me but you know who you are people. So everyone get your conscience going and pay up.

How do they determine average sale price? I have never had anyone hit the report sale button that I know of. I registered here several years ago for a free. Then after a short period I decided I needed a membership because I was using the board more. I even purchased merchandise off the RJ store. I think that the additional honor payments I have made are a good gesture. Could I make more? Probably. Do I think I have over paid? Not at all. Do I feel that I have under paid for my membership?? Yes I do and I think it is the best deal going on the net. I think this is the cheapest membership you can buy to a quality board to be able to have access to all the tools offered. Dp I feel obligated to make honor payments if I sell something on here? Not as much as I would if I had free ad. If I had to pay more for a membership, I would.

I noticed the link to my ad. Was there a purpose? Did you want to make an offer on the car? :P

I think I pay $6.95 a month for my membership. The main reason I joined was to put more pics with my ads and to be able to place more ads. The price is cheaper than the newspaper by far and has alot bigger audience.

You cannot go wrong with this. It is the best money a racer can spend. Most of us depend on the sale of our used parts to be able to purchase new parts.

[quote="shawnp"]LOL no shawn it was just one of your adds,I just posted it as to let others see what an honor guys status looked like.

And on the corvette,No I couldn't afford some thing like that,but maybe some here will see it and snag it up for their wife :P

But nice car
By all means call PJ he is pretty nice guy to deal with and i am sure before you get off the phone things will be adjusted,as I hate to see honest people get short changed

Since I sell new products, I pay $50 per month and that lets me post 2 ads.

slowmotion, check with the guys at RJ. I think there are several types of dealer accounts they offer. Sounds like you could get a lot better deal. I am on a deal that is $50 for the year that allows me 5 ads with 10 photos. That was a deal I got into a few years back. It is a personal account.

Honor Payments
 

I personally have bought several hi dollar items on RJ & the persons I bought from have no honor payments-Theres always the seller reporting the purchase?

I know that I am going to get bashed here, but here I go anyways.

First I love this site 100% its my favorite site on the web.

I am a club member, have been for a while.

I do alot of trading on here, but I dont see any reason to make an honor payment on a trade. The way I see it I pay to use your classifieds whether I sell / trade or whatever.

I dont think I have ever sold any thing on here worth making an honor payment for. I have bought about $20,000 worth of stuff and the people I have bought from didnt make honor payments.

I do love this site, and I have met alot of great people on here to wheel and deal with, but if its an issue than raise the membership price and call it a day.

anyhow, I hope everyone has a great weekend....

Go to the classified section and click on Honor Payment and it is clearly stated as to what you agree to upon selling on Racing Junk..I just decided to paste it so no one can say I can not find it.....

Racingjunk.com has always been a FREE classified site from the first day it was launched. We never lost sight of our mission to help racers find a way to buy or sell products and services in a fast and safe environment. We continually strive to make your experience with Racing Junk more user friendly and enjoyable.

We rely on the honor of our members to help us continue to expand our services and provide the best technology. That is why we ask you to make a payment after you have sold your product or service and not before. We want you to make sure that you made a GUARANTEED SALE and that you actually received payment before you have to pay us a dime. We are very proud to say that no other national competitor can offer that same GUARANTEE!!! Once you have made your Honor Payment you will have the ability to rate the person you sold it to and they will be able to rate you. Click here to learn more about out MEMBER RATING SYSTEM

There are three ways to make honor payments, by credit card, by paypal, or by mailing in a check / MO
Payment By Credit Card Payment By Paypal

SELLING OR TRADING I FEEL YOU STILL SHOULD PAY AN HONOR PAYMENT[ PERIOD]----IT IS TOO GREAT OF AN ADVERTISEMENT TO NOT DO THIS LITTLE/BITTY/SMALL TINY PART----DON'T BE SUCH A TIGHTWAD [ PAY THE HONOR PAYMENT EVEN IF IT WAS A TRADE DEAL]--IT HAD SOME VALUE TO IT!!!!!!!!!! ---I DO PAY MINE JUST IN CASE YOU THINK I AM TALKING OUT FOR NOTHING 8) 8)

HONOR PAYMENT WRONG
 

YES AND I MADE 2 HONOR PAYMENTS WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN $7.00 AND THEY ARE ONLY SHOWING ME TO HAVE PAID $3.50? HMMM WHAT GIVE;S :(

So my question to the people that say pay your honor payment every time is this: Should an individual who is paying for membership have to make honor payments?

Well I think Yes...That is what the agreement says anyway...

It is the ad that is FREE..You can run it forever at no charge if you want but if you sell then you owe...I think some folks are not completely understanding or it is poorly written as to what is free..."THE AD IS FREE"... it is the sale that is to produce a honor payment...

My ads are not free. It cost me $50 yearly to be a member to the site to have 5 classifieds with a photo gallery. I don't buy an ad in a newspaper, trader magazine or sport specific publication then send them an additional payment.

If I did not pay to have a 2 ad, single photo account like so many do, then yes, it's time for some of these people to make some honor payment. There are a lot of multiple names to multiple accounts to get around a membership. To me, that is a bunch of BS. These are the people that should be making the honor payment and really what the focus of the honor payment message is about.

If you will go to this page I pasted and start reading at the part that says CRJ Members Get yada yada I think it says it very clearly what your membership is buying...

http://www.racingjunk.com/member_upgrade

FAQ
http://www.racingjunk.com/s/faq
Lots of questions can be answered here

I am well aware what comes with my membership and I understand why my membership was purchased. However, I still means it cost me $50 to be a member here and I am paying for a servide to net me a result. Why should I pay more once I get what I have paid for once???


Ok, I am fishing here guys. Let me throw out the response I am looking for; You pay for your membership to keep this site running. If it was not for CRJ members and sponsors, the site would not be able to provide what it provides to day.

That is the correct answer here fellas. Why is this the right answer? Because this place is like the welfare system. A bunch of free loading, beat and cheat the system, abuse what is given and expect more indviduals taking for granted something that is being handed to them.

I personally belive that if you want to have the rights to come on as a "Buyer" for free with access to contact "Sellers" that is great. If you want to be a "Seller" then there should be a per ad fee, monthly fee or annual fee to be paid. That would mean those of us that pay memberships and try to make honor payments would not have to carry these people.

I only come here for the forums ..never even looked at the ads.( except the ones Ron posted with the chic in em)

DOG GONE you Tod...Now you know how it operates... :lol:

I got nothing for that comment. :lol: :lol: :lol:

SP... There is an ad with Ron's pictures??????

As stated before each person on RJ gets 2 free ads, they cost nothing. You make an honor payment when you sell. What your membership you pay for gets you an additional 3 ads along with a no cost photo gallery.

You still pay your honor payment as you still have the 2 free ads.

SHAWNP--PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS PERSONALLY---YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE AN HONOR PAYMENT" BUT" IT IS THE HONARABLE AND HONEST THING TO DO :? :? [ AND YES I PAY MY MEMBERSHIP EVERY YEAR :shock: AND PAY MY HONOR PAYMENTS. :shock: TOOOOOOO!!!!---I ALSO BUY AND SELL ON EBAY AND IT COSTS ALOT MORE THEN ON HERE---I CAN'T WORRY ABOUT THE SCUMBAGS :twisted: AND CROOKS :twisted: THAT FREQUENT THIS GOOD SITE AND FORUM AT TIMES BUT I CAN BE AS HONEST AS I CAN BE IN MY OWN DEALINGS 8) 8) 8)---BOY/ I FEEL BETTER NOW[ WHERE IS MY NERVE MEDICINE??? :roll: :roll: --LIVELY

lively- I agree 100%. I am a CRJ member for several years now with a Honor Member status as a Gold Member. Have not sold enought to make the necessay honor payments to reach that power seller point yet. I don't always make a honor payment when I sell, but keep track and make a bigger payment a couple times a year.

tporter- If I had 2 free ads and 3 additional adds, then I would have 2 ads that would only allow me to post 1 photo with 3 that post photo galleries. All 5 of my ads allow for full photo gallery meaning that all my ads are no longer the "free ad" as advertised but 5 paid upgraded ads. It is the best $50 I spend each year.

I pay my membership also and honor payments when I sold stuff 2 years ago haven't sold since.BTW I am a Power Seller also

All I do is "try" to run the forum here and when I get bored go look at the adds,but lately I am missing my add time looking. :P

I agree with you Shawn tho,but I bet what it cost to be a member here and sell its ALOT cheaper than just ONE sale on ebay,but I don't go there either just what I heard.I also do like you do I keep a log of parts that I sold and at the end or the beginning of each year I would make a donation or honor member payment,that has worked for me fine,and had no trouble doing it either,but I call and do that sort of business action as I don't trust online transactions.

Thats why we get alot of the basic members because RJ allows them to sell for years on end for free they don't follow up on who's selling what would be my guess,but I could be wrong tho.Thats why this happens so much every day"Its allowed" the basic members that have several accounts and 2 adds a day for FREE. I am sure alot of basic members have made a tremendous paper trail over the years here at RJ,and I would think that could be a binding contract.

But i am glad not all members are this way,it only takes a few that scam people and are not honest or honor paying members to ruin it for others.
We'll get through this I am sure there is light around the turn.

But I can tell you I have seen in the past CRJ members newly joined like one week(New Member) and have a 5 star feedback and they have tried to run scams selling items way below what they are worth,thats a cheap investment for them including buying a track phone from walmart,to make thier scam complete,but you have to be wise and use better judgement,as we all know your not going to buy a brand new harley for $6500 not when they cost $30,000,these type people want you to overnite a deposit to hold the bike,say $1000.00 thats a quick scam and you never hear from them again,when they invest maybe $100 bucks to pull some thing like this off,people need to be aware.

And No I'd say if you are a CRJ member and have made some honor payments I don't think RJ would be a bean counter,I would possibly guess if you thought what it was worth to sell here,that would be close enough,But any thing is better than nothing,thats the way I look at it,considering there are many that gave NOTHING

You hit my point dead on. It is the 80/20 rule that applies to the business concept. A business does not survive off of the 80 percent of potential customers that spend 20 percent of their money with them but the 20 percent that spend 80 percent of their money with them. Like you said, it is that small percent of the CRJ members and those that do make honor payments that leave the lights on for the larger percent of basic members that sell everything they own here and never pay a dime.

As you can tell with my responses that it bothers me to support people that cannot show you any appreciation. Like I tell the boys, there is a big difference between expectation and appreciation.

"""""there is a big difference between expectation and appreciation"""""

I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: LIVELY

LOL there is not going to be any bashing here in this thread or call outs,we are all here to learn,including me,I'd personally like to see this thread do some more brain storming here,We all can learn some thing from this,including Racing Junk,this is good feedback I am sure,so lets try and keep it positive here,there is only STRENGTH in numbers and boys have we come along ways here in the forum and since RJ has started,Now thats positive.

Here is a problem with the honor payments. Its with paypal and I just relized this. I made a honor payment the other day and it didn't show on my account and evidently will not.Here is the deal, I use a email address for RJ and others so when i get a reply in my email I know where it came, but my paypal is differant , so I dont think it is getting counted towards the right account. When you go to the homepage and click honor payments on the top banner and hit paypal I don't see anywhere to let RJ know where it actaully came from.I know RJ is getting the money and it didn't bother me unless someone thinks I'm trying to beat the system here.
As far as the membership is concerned, RJ gives you value points to use. I just used $40.00 in RJ value points to upgrade two adds, so if you actually use the value points the price for a membership is a wash.

Sorry for your inconvience,but this is what I was talking about in previous posts,I make a call and talk to a real peron to take care of these transactions as I don't trust them online pay pal buttons and credit card paying places online.
Call RJ with your info and get your account updated as you speak to them,call PJ 1-413-66-3496 and get it sorted out.Pick up the phone

i know you have a valid point with what you are saying...i haven't sold anything on here in a good while..but when i did i had 2 honor payments not show up by using the 'CLKICK HERE BUTTON"....so only a portion of my honor payments are showing,,, :roll: :?: ...but racing junk did get the money..

You may of taken my post wrong. I am not worried if I have another point added or not. I just brought up the paypal deal so that others that didn't know now do. I was not inconvienced, no need to be sorry.

Ive been A member of this site for A VERY long time I had made my Honor payments way before the member rating even was in place .I make Honor payments even if I trade due to the fact that if it was not for RJ I wouldnt have been able to make the transaction .For all that say they pay their membership dues thats great but those dues Only allow you to post more ads & pics it doesnt give you the rite to not make an Honor payment . As for paying them with Pay Pal it can sometimes take up to 21 days for it to effect your member rating I did that once . Alot of people feel that since they pay their 6.95/month or 49.95/year their entitled to do what ever they want WRONG

Just my 2cents but its how I feel