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RonOwensRacing 01-03-2008 05:49 PM

Lets see what the majority says on this subject
 
Should i pull Sarah or let her stay lets see what the majority says.
Iv never done one of these things so i hope i got it right.
This is in reference to the model for Ron Owens racing & performance parts ad's

Thought i better let poeple know what this poll was for just in case they havent read the first post about it sorry i said i had never done one of these before.
Well once again i Have a couple of people that thought that my ads was offencive and have made complaints about them i know you cant please everybody all the time but i will say that this does amaze me so i will be pulling Sarah off my ads but i will put her in my profile for the ones that would like to see her and we are doing 18X24 posters of her so they will be available also should be done soon never thought that a good looking girl was offencive to anyone but it sure seems I'm wrong. so to those that wanted me to keep her I'm sorry .
But she is not going away all together thanks for your support Ron.

lotsof454sss 01-03-2008 06:38 PM

As business owner it is my experience that when someone tells me I can not do something or all of a sudden I have a problem with some form of government, it is then that I am fixing to make money and more than someone wanted me to....I therefore run my business as just that, MY BUSINESS....If I fall on my ass then I am the one that is paying for the fall.....Perhaps the 2 against your ads are your competition :!:

shawnp 01-03-2008 06:55 PM

If you have to take away that photo then you would have to go into the profiles and do some serious editing of photos there. The ad is not offensive or pornographic in any sense.

mytmouz 01-03-2008 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by lotsof454sss
As business owner it is my experience that when someone tells me I can not do something or all of a sudden I have a problem with some form of government, it is then that I am fixing to make money and more than someone wanted me to....I therefore run my business as just that, MY BUSINESS....If I fall on my a$$ then I am the one that is paying for the fall.....Perhaps the 2 against your ads are your competition :!:

I agree 100 per cent. I saw in your other post that you have had 2 complaints. The question in my mind is, did you get more views, which leads to more sales, than you did without the model. If you are, then the loss of those 2 customers isn't really a loss...

us7race 01-04-2008 03:47 AM

Hey Ron, I have looked everywhere in your sie and cannot find any pictures of a girl..

davis419b 01-04-2008 04:58 AM

" MY FAVORITE "

http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1070051/ad.html

nemesisracing 01-04-2008 05:06 AM

Evidentally, those that were offended by this were either GAY or jealous!!!

deepockets 01-04-2008 05:31 AM

i don't think victoria secret will ever advertise there clothing without them on a model. you have a good add, and she should be used to display all merchandise. just like vana white on jeperdy, i look at the show for her, good luck

spib 01-04-2008 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by nemesisracing
Evidentally, those that were offended by this were either GAY or jealous!!!

I'll second that!!!!!!!

rsrsfishslayers 01-04-2008 08:51 AM

You know what I think Oh did you tell Sarah HI for me :D :D :D :D :D :D
CPT.RON

curtisreed 01-04-2008 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by davis419b

Just looked at this ad, maybe the problem is that there are no parts in it. OH WAIT I see them now. LOL Took me a while. I might have to look again just to make sure. :lol: :lol:

Curtis

v8Fiero 01-04-2008 10:27 AM

sex sells, period. You have a damn good marketing technique going for you. Im not sure why you are getting heat for posting pics of a girl with car parts that your selling on a gearhead website. its not like your posting pics of a hot girl holding objects to be sold on a childrens toy site or anything. :roll:

keep her up! it makes us straight guys happy to see hot girls and car parts in the same picture! :P

gearhead37683 01-04-2008 12:07 PM

i think you need to keep sarah, dont let a couple peoples opinions change your mind. women and cars have gone together for a long time, just look at all the old hotrod callenders and such they have been using women on them for years, i think they are always a few people who try to cause trouble over anything,i think your ads with sarah are tastefully done and i say keep up the good work! there is nothing better than looking at women and car parts at the same time :P

pappy1 01-04-2008 12:09 PM

Keep her in the ad. Let the gay guys shop somewhere else.

RonOwensRacing 01-04-2008 12:27 PM

Thanks Guy's as most of you know i dont have a problem with hearing news be it good or bad that is the only way i can correct a problem .
Because with out you there's no me. :D
The first time this happened i pulled her pic's off and i haven't counted all the messages yet but i have 5 pages to put her back and i did and dang it they called RJ and reported it. so i Thought i would just see how many said to keep those photo's coming so cast your vote yes or no i will listen to you.
Again Thank all you guy's and girls Yes i did have some ladies tell me to keep her also.

NOW Vote away 8)

lookingaround 01-04-2008 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by nemesisracing
Evidentally, those that were offended by this were either GAY or jealous!!!

yeah what he said :D

qtrmile2 01-04-2008 02:03 PM

I know it's hard but you just can't let other people influence your decisions on what you already thought was the right thing to do.
I've had alot of people judge me and my family without even knowing who we are. It bothered me at first but now I could care less. I will bark back but everyone has an opinion and is entitled to that opinion. You just have to do what you think is right for your business.
You got my vote!
I think you have made the right decision Ron. :wink:

RonOwensRacing 01-04-2008 02:49 PM

I will agree there is a lot of people that do judge others and never knew them or ever even seen them i my self dont judge people that's not my job.
I do like to hear peoples thoughts when it comes to my business like i have said before good or bad and for those that think the model is a bad ideal or that it's offensive i would just like them to also voice there opinion for the reason why it is such a bad thing .and like others have already said models and cars or parts cloths you name it they have been around since they found out that men like them and for all the money that these huge companies spend on models it must work or they wouldn't do it.
And i dont care how much money you have never new anybody that just threw it away for no reason.

RonOwensRacing 01-04-2008 05:15 PM

I got a message from a member on here that i consider to be a super guy and a friend and he brought up a good point .
Sarah stays and looks like about 90% think she should also and I'm thinking it would end up being even higher .
So thanks to all that made there votes and kinda helped me do what i wanted to do in the first place.

krazy55ken 01-04-2008 05:20 PM

krazy55ken
 
Great Job Ron Keep up the Good work.

Racefab57 01-04-2008 06:10 PM

Man we're telling you your answer, Leave Sarah in !! The people have spoken!!!! David.

mrharris 01-04-2008 06:53 PM

hey RON if sarah leaves send her down here in KY i will throw the wife out or trade her to you for a spark plug and i WILL keep sarah LOLOLOL but just send here and i promise the wife WILL BE OUTTA HERE ....mike harris :twisted:

RonOwensRacing 01-04-2008 07:39 PM

Now mike i would hate to be the cause of your divorce I'm a old KY boy to ya know. :lol:

sds10racer 01-04-2008 08:15 PM

she's got waayyy more chlothes on than a NOPI chick does! you don't see speed taking THAT show off the air do you?

olds48 01-04-2008 09:32 PM

I don't understand why it's even an issue.So you got a hot girl holding your parts?Doesn't everyone?Pickup a magazine or turn on the TV.Men own the world,hot women make the rules.

RonOwensRacing 01-04-2008 09:36 PM

Olds48 that's what I'm trying to figure out myself and by the looks of the poll i dont think to many others can figure it out either.

olds48 01-04-2008 09:38 PM

Ron,I wouldn't lose any sleep over it at all.By thw way,my stud girdles showed up today.They look GREAT.Thanks for good parts at good prices.

RonOwensRacing 01-04-2008 09:46 PM

You are very welcome and Thanks for the opportunity to help with your parts.

hotrodharley 01-05-2008 08:54 AM

ron;;;;;;do what you want;;i don't unstand why a person has to butt into someone elses doings;;if they don't like it then why are they looking at it.HECK;i see girls every day in the stores with less on then her..i don't see the stores stoping them from coming into there store just because one person doesn't like seeing her..WE ARE STILL AMERCIA[USA]RIGHT;;IT IS WHAT OUR MEN AND WOMEN HAS DIED FOR-- FREEDOM TO DRESS AND LOOK THE WAY WE WANT.IF SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE IT THEN LEAVE OUR GREAT USA AND GO BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

stewart1973 01-05-2008 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by v8Fiero
sex sells, period. You have a damn good marketing technique going for you. Im not sure why you are getting heat for posting pics of a girl with car parts that your selling on a gearhead website. its not like your posting pics of a hot girl holding objects to be sold on a childrens toy site or anything. :roll:

keep her up! it makes us straight guys happy to see hot girls and car parts in the same picture! :P

Perfect post here its a proven marketing edge. It's your business and you are in it to make money plain and simple smart business is how i see it.

margaritaman 01-05-2008 10:53 AM

And my coil showed up and is now installed. I would have been a lot happier if Sarah had delivered it herself. :D

Remember Ron, you can't please all of the people all of the time.

RonOwensRacing 01-05-2008 02:19 PM

Hey MM we are going to come back out this summer also we had a great time so i will let you know a few weeks ahead of time so we can go have a MM or two and try to get up with jerdog at the same time.

I bet if i ask her to come along on a free vacation she would . if she is out of school at that time.

Would you let her pose beside that little deuce of yours

zipper06 01-05-2008 09:46 PM

Well, Ron
As a ProComp dealer also. I've been holding back to post to commenting on this thread. I donot advertise or have a dealer website, i only sell word of mouth. I am friends with Victoria and her husband in La. who runs the USA distributors wharehouse and have talked many times with Peter in Austrailia who owns ProComp. A lot of their products are good some are not. I only sell a few thousand $ a year of their products, and i have not had many complaints. As far as the advertisment of your model, hell if i was in it to make a living (as you are) i'd pose her nekid if it sold the product.
Bottom line do what works for you in sales, i don't fault anyone in their advertisment.
In other words let it fly, what ever here name is.

Zip :)

PS, there is no way you could have gotten more press on RJ than this thread, damn maybe i should make a dealer website, and post a girl NEKID, just kiddin

SST4530 01-05-2008 10:20 PM

Don't to be premature, but looks to me like the I's have it! :lol:

RonOwensRacing 01-06-2008 08:42 AM

Hey zip this all started a little while back when i put her in a couple of ad's i got 2 messages complaining about it. so i took her off then i started getting messages to put her back so i did that. then 2 people called RJ and and reported me for using her so that's how this poll came about and the No's dont look to good SHE is not going anywhere I'm using her we are doing a lot more pic's of her .
Oh and i am a dealer for quit a few other companies also no just pro comp
Eagle /comp cams Lunati/ Glastech /Vfn/ M/t Aerospace mosar just to name a few I can get just about anything and we stock a lot of parts it's growing everyday .
We may never be as big as the other guy's but we do take Pride in what we do and our customers.

zipper06 01-06-2008 09:06 AM

Hey Ron, i'm with you all the way, i sell mostly starters, (PC2105's the strongest one) and lot's of valve cover sets which i do some CNC machining on to personalize them. I have one of their 4340 cranks and i wasn't impressed with it, the distributors are good. Like i said i may have sold 3,000.00 to 4,000.00 in 2007, not enough to build a web page and advertise, it's mostly mad money or supplement to my retirement money.
Below is a set of my personalized valve covers.

Zip.

http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/...em_de8ca28.jpg

spib 01-06-2008 10:03 AM

the valve covers look cool zip!!!!

margaritaman 01-06-2008 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by rlmotorsports
Would you let her pose beside that little deuce of yours

Beside it, on it, around it, underneath it, ....

bigs1975 01-07-2008 08:42 AM

Ron keep here on your ad's.This is a business your running and in business comes marketing.And that is a great way to market your products.Look at the % that says keep her.92%.That should tell you something.Besides RJ said for you to do what you want to about the situation.So I say keep her.Besides that theres an ad for kooks headers that has a pretty little woman in it.

RonOwensRacing 01-07-2008 09:24 AM

Thanks bigs ya she is staying i decided that if people are offended by my ad's then they cant even watch TV or look at any magazines or newspaper because women and advertising is every where you look it gets the attention or there wouldn't be any need for models and lord knows there is plenty of them . as one person stated how many Hurst shifter sells did they lose because of Linda vaughn .


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