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Dwight I saw you visit but not post. 02/10/2010 @ 7:59pm
If its any consolation Fogger is higher than you on the scam ladder. But just to point out again- By your own admission and in your own words you sweep the paypal account every day. By your own admission and in your own words you didnt ship the 4 boxes. The only reason you didnt fall for the chargeback scam, is that you took the money and didnt ship. And thats why you are paying Paypal back. Your words and your posts all add up. And thats why you need to give discounts to the YB Guys- gotta save business somehow. Would you buy from someone who took your money immediately but didnt ship promptly? Scorp |
Shame fogger... Shame. What a bunch of drama. Thanks Scorp for your clarification & concise info. Scoot
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dwight is guilty as charged.
i did not get the memo on the yellow bullet member discounts. :wink:
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A 'dsicount certificate' on parts, from this kyspeedparts outfit,
is akin to getting a 'clamidia prevention pill' from a whore. I'LL PASS ON THAT OFFER :!: :!: :!: |
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Dwight I saw you visit but not post. 02/10/2010 @ 7:59pm
If its any consolation Fogger is higher than you on the scam ladder. But just to point out again- By your own admission and in your own words you sweep the paypal account every day. By your own admission and in your own words you didnt ship the 4 boxes. The only reason you didnt fall for the chargeback scam, is that you took the money and didnt ship. And thats why you are paying Paypal back. Your words and your posts all add up. And thats why you need to give discounts to the YB Guys- gotta save business somehow. Would you buy from someone who took your money immediately but didnt ship promptly? Scorp Your definitely entitled to your opinion. In my opinion, you not looking at the whole picture. It's easy for you to set there and say that both myself and twinfogger are both dishonest, but that fact of the matter is, I did my part in supplying everyone that has been involved in this thread proof that he was going to scam me. I'm not going to make excuses for what happened, but I personally had a very rough time last year. It all started right about the time this crap happened. Whether it was myself or someone else that withdrew the money from paypal, is irrelevent. It was common practice. This whole transaction was done just prior to a weekend. I decided not to ship the boxes and that's all. If I had shipped the boxes, I would have been out the parts and the money for the parts. I am always open to suggestions and am willing to listen to about anything. I am listening to what you are saying and will take it in stride. As far as the discounts to YB, I did that because someone had mentioned it in the thread, not to try and please someone else. I will take the criticism as constructive criticism and try and build on it. Thank you for you honesty. |
scorp, i think you have got the picture. and as for opinions.. i think facts out weight opinions. and i think you have got the facts. jmo
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Originally Posted by kyspeedparts
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Dwight I saw you visit but not post. 02/10/2010 @ 7:59pm
If its any consolation Fogger is higher than you on the scam ladder. But just to point out again- By your own admission and in your own words you sweep the paypal account every day. By your own admission and in your own words you didnt ship the 4 boxes. The only reason you didnt fall for the chargeback scam, is that you took the money and didnt ship. And thats why you are paying Paypal back. Your words and your posts all add up. And thats why you need to give discounts to the YB Guys- gotta save business somehow. Would you buy from someone who took your money immediately but didnt ship promptly? Scorp Your definitely entitled to your opinion. In my opinion, you not looking at the whole picture. It's easy for you to set there and say that both myself and twinfogger are both dishonest, but that fact of the matter is, I did my part in supplying everyone that has been involved in this thread proof that he was going to scam me. I'm not going to make excuses for what happened, but I personally had a very rough time last year. It all started right about the time this crap happened. Whether it was myself or someone else that withdrew the money from paypal, is irrelevent. It was common practice. This whole transaction was done just prior to a weekend. I decided not to ship the boxes and that's all. If I had shipped the boxes, I would have been out the parts and the money for the parts. I am always open to suggestions and am willing to listen to about anything. I am listening to what you are saying and will take it in stride. As far as the discounts to YB, I did that because someone had mentioned it in the thread, not to try and please someone else. I will take the criticism as constructive criticism and try and build on it. Thank you for you honesty. The point is you should have sent the boxes or the money back. YOU DID NEITHER. If you conducted yourself in a timely and professional manner- you'd actually be the vitim of a scam. However you lowered yourself to Fogger's level and went unharmed. Facts are facts and your posts support exactly what I am saying- Your words not mine Dwight. You neither shipped the boxes nor refunded his money- is that the right way to handle? Honestly- forgetting that he intended to scam you, do you make that choice with your other customers? There is not one person on this site or anywhere else who would deal with you knowing thats how you conduct business. You receive money you ship parts, else you send money back. You dont keep parts and keep money AND that is exactly what you did. Remember your posts. Scorp |
Scorp,
Again, your entitled to you opinion and again, I will take it as constructive criticism. I can appreciate where your coming from. I do not make it a habbit of taking money for parts and then not shipping them. In this instance, I chose not to ship the parts. Could it have been handled different, proabably. I get your point and would like to move on with this. If you choose not to do business with me, then that's your choice. I have hundreds of satisfied customers and probably a few that were not so satisfied. I will continue to work on that. |
SORRY---BUT- IF YOU GOT THE MONEY/ DID NOT SHIP THE PARTS/ AND LEFT IT LIKE THAT THEN YOU ARE A CROOK!!! :oops:
IF THE OTHER GUY SCAMS THE MONEY THRU PAYPAL AND KEEPS THE PART HE RECIEVES THEN HE IS A CROOK!!!!! :oops: :oops: LOOKS LIKE 2 NEGATIVES CANCELLED EACH OTHER OUT :shock: :shock: :shock: I WILL MAKE SURE AND TAKE MY BUSINESS TO PEOPLE THAT CAN BE TRUSTED 8) 8) 8) NEITHER ONE OF YOU CAN BE :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: LIVELY |
Dwight-
I understand that you will always post behind me, attempting to "clarify" and state your side. You are astute enough that you want your words to be the last that the customer or potential customer reads or hears. I understand that- The point is this- I am not stating opinions here, I am just laying out the information that you posted. You took his money, swept it out of paypal and didnt send the boxes nor refund his payment- This is what you shared. And the nonsense about him getting refunded by his credit card was just spin- its irrelevant. Your transaction was with Paypal. Either you send parts or send refund- You did neither and thats not opinion, thats fact based on your own posts. So rather than trying to spin this- why not just say what you already said in a bunch of posts- "I didnt send parts and I didnt send refund". Then you apologize and say it wont happen again. America loves repentants but hates spin doctors. Now go ahead and post again and try to spin this so you look good- the thing that is sadly funny is that it just makes you look bad; and keeps this thread bubbling to the top. When you figure that out- then you will be starting to get your business in order. Scorp |
I think if I was a good business man I would not tell Scorp if you chose not to do business with me that;s your choice.I think I would have said ,Scorp give me a chance to prove to you Im not a scammer. This is the same guy that called me thick headed on a deal I had with him. I buy alot of parts and have stayed away from KY Speed and will continue...
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Sox, I think with the deal between you and I was a little bit different. I think there was a little communication error between us and I also had trouble drop shipping from the mfg. However, the difference is you did recieve your parts, all be it a little later than you would have liked. I made it right with you. As far as scorp, I didn't want want to sound like I didn't give a crap, I just believe he is set in his way and maybe there is no changing his mind. I don't have anything against him. Maybe I didn't see the error of my ways and I will conduct business practices a little different in the future. I apologize to everyone who has been involved in this whole mess and will not take payments from people that I think may be involved in a scam in the future. This whole thing started because of a guy that wanted to get paid twice. He lost and maybe I lost too.
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The point I was making is calling people names and telling them not to do business with you is not how you conduct business. Yes you did make it right but calling people names and etc is not someone I would do business with again. I sell alot of parts on here and if anything I overcommunicate with people and would NEVER conduct myself like that. Just trying to give you my take.
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This is my last post on this and as far as Im concerned this is a dead issue with me..
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Fogger:
What's your middle name? ;) Are you Jacoby Harper? Hmmmm Scorp |
Kyspeed i have a burning question- If you indeed owe paypal why don't you pay them what you owe and quit avoiding them and get this setteled :?: :?: :?:
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH'' |
Foggerrrrrrrrrrrrr
Come on back :) Are you Jacoby Harper? Scorp |
Scorp his picture, name and address(I think) have been posted on Yellowbulet before...If I am not mistaken even a picture of his house....It isn't a secret so I don't think he is avoiding the question...just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Foggerrrrrrrrrrrrr
Come on back :) Are you Jacoby Harper? Scorp |
Chris, Tod-
Check your PMs. Scorp |
Originally Posted by harbone66
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Foggerrrrrrrrrrrrr
Come on back :) Are you Jacoby Harper? Scorp |
Originally Posted by maniac
Originally Posted by harbone66
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Foggerrrrrrrrrrrrr
Come on back :) Are you Jacoby Harper? Scorp |
Originally Posted by TwinFoggerSBC
The ads are definitely going up, I see them on here all the time. I will get the message out. Kentucky Speed and Performance are crooks. Its clear....and has been proven.
Public records are an amazing thing huh? Lets add up some pieces ok? Here is a report on Jacoby Glen Harper from Intellius; Sign In – My Intelius View My Reports << Return to HomePEOPLE SEARCH RESULTS We found 1 person that matches Jacoby Harper in the state of Texas. Click on the View Details or Get a Detailed Report link for more info. = Available Search Again >> See Details on All 1 People! Name Age Previous Cities DOB Phone Address Avg. Income Avg. Home Value Relatives 1 Jacoby Glenn Harper View Details 26 Dallas, TX Laveede D Harper Hettie Mae Harper Glenn Stuart Harper Alton Harper Jacob L Harper Lynn Ii Harper Related People Lookups J HARPER Seems Jacoby Harper is related to Hettie Mae Harper. Might this be the same Hettie Mae Harper who was referenced on this YB Thread? http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...=hettie&page=5 It suggests your address is: Originally Posted by farrigno address: Jacob Harper 2959 Carrizo St Dallas, Tx 75229 there ya go wilderacing Which is the same as Hettie Mae Harper's: Property AddressCityOwner Name / Business NameTotal ValueType1 2959 CARRIZO LN DALLAS HARPER MS HETTIE M $122,620 RESIDENTIAL < PREV matches 1 - 1 of 1 properties. NEXT >Page 1 of 1 Since Jacoby Harper and Hettie Mae Harper are related and from Texas and at the same location- if you go here; http://www.dallascounty.org/criminal...arch/search.do and type in the following Harper Jacoby Male Black (as you informed us earlier) You get this: http://www.dallascounty.org/criminal...EED6714.dcapp4 Dallas County Criminal Background Search Service -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME ENTERED HARPER JACOBY NAME TYPE DF LN ARC RS DOB CASE/BOND CT CHARGE DISP 01 HARPER JACOBY BM 111783 BM045101901 S AA/DW 02 HARPER JACOBY BM 111783 F-0972254 FI POSS CS INT DE NAOG 03 HARPER JACOBY BM 111783 BK040192201 S POSS MJ 04 HARPER JACOBY BM 111783 MB0464633 MH POSS MJ DISM 05 HARPER JACOBY GLENN BM 111783 BZ025313601 F AA/DW 06 HARPER JACOBY GLENN BM 111783 F-0253136 FI AA/DW REVC 07 HARPER JACOBY GLENN BM 111783 F-0372995 FI AA/DW NFOG 08 HARPER JACOBY GLENN BM 111783 F-0686913 FI AA/DW REVK 09 HARPER JACOBY GLENN BM 111783 BZ068691300 FR AGG ASSAULT 10 HARPER JACOBY GLENN BM 111783 MB0452721 MH EVADE ARREST/D RVRD 11 HARPER JACOBY GLENN BM 111783 MB0648288 MH EVADE ARREST/D PGBC 12 HARPER JACOBY GLENN BM 111783 BV064828801 MB EVADING ARR 13 HARPER JACOBY GLENN BM 111783 MA0648289 MH FAIL ID FUG MA PGBC 14 HARPER JACOBY GLENN BM 111783 BV064828902 MB FAIL TO IDE 15 HARPER JACOBY GLENN BM 111783 BV064831202 MB FRAUD POSS 16 HARPER JACOBY GLENN BM 111783 BV064833302 MH FRAUD POSS/ 17 HARPER JACOBY GLENN BM 111783 MA0648312 MH OBT CS FRAUD 5 PGBC 18 HARPER JACOBY GLENN BM 111783 MA0648333 MH OBT CS FRAUD 5 PGBC So Fogger, are you THIS Jacoby Glenn Harper? Paypal chargeback scheme wasnt it? Just curious :) Scorp All public records my friend, easily accessible from the Internet. |
Originally Posted by kyspeedparts
Again, get me a statement from you cc company, which is pretty easy to do, saying that your were never credited. I spoke with PayPal about this long ago. If Ky Speed owes you something, we'll take care of it, but I'm not into giving money to people that don't deserve it. Again, if your fighting with the "idiots" on YB about scams or people youv'e screwed over, then why in the hell do you think anyone on RJ is going to have sympothy for you. Your calling people on here idiots and dumbasses when in fact your making yourself out to be one. This forum is for people that have been scammed, but the guys on here will eat you up if you continue. You need to play nice.
Did you ship the parts or not? |
DDAAYYYUUMMMM! We got a live one here!!!! Get 'em Scorp!
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Re: What a Surprise
[quote="Scorpion1110"]
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
lol lol lol lol
You guys are both scammers and this is hilarious. Here's why Forum users, and I had to do some research to get this clear: Fogger orders 4 items from KYSpeed. I believe Fogger's intent was to use the paypal chargeback scam; See this link: http://www.paypalwarning.com/paypal_helps_crook_steal http://www.screw-paypal.com/paypal_f...igh_fraud.html Once he had received the merchandise, he would file a dispute with paypal and get his money back. He would win the dispute and have cash and items. He would have the boxes and have paid nothing. A common scam and it would be up to KY Speed to pursue, and probably not worth it for $3,320. However the scammer got "scammed" by KySpeed. Why? Because KYSpeed didnt ship the items. lol So Fogger sent the cash, KYSpeed didnt send the items. KYSpeed pulled the money out of the account, and then Paypal upheld the dispute and sent Fogger his cash back. Thats why KYSpeed is on a payment plan- he is simply giving them back what he already removed. So effectively everyone is where they started lol. And thats why they both have letters- You see these are auto-generated letters that are based on keywords in the email lol. Fogger has his $3320 but not the boxes he intended to misappropriate from KYSpeed. KYSpeed has his $3320 worth of boxes which as Tod74 alluded in another thread he SHOULD have shipped when they were ordered. He held the boxes and had the cash. Is that a scam? remember he already posted that he was doing a daily sweep from his Paypal account- he should have sent those boxes immediately. He waited and while he waited, Fogger implemented his chargeback scheme. lol. It was only by not shipping timely and holding the merchandise that was paid for that he disrupted the scammer.This is hilarious. Forum Users- Dont deal with either and enjoy this thread for its comic value. Littlerod, I think you need to do some tradin with these fellars. lol lol lol Scorp ************************************************** ********* Just to add 02/11/2010 Interesting how the daily back and forth ceased once we started putting the pieces together- Allways that way. Next we get a post that says "Well I dont care anymore" or "I have better things to do". Seems they always cease to care when they get exposed. Now if only they knew the info that I got via PM- I think they'd care about that. But thats for another day :) Scorp Question has been answered; summary here. He took the money and did not ship parts. However Fogger did a chargeback through paypal and got his money returned. Neither party is OUT ANYTHING. Scorp |
i now see why twinscammer couldnt understand what i would type all those drugs he used and sold fried his little brain plus to busy trying to keep all then scams/fraud deals seperate
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Originally Posted by dragonmaster093
i now see why twinscammer couldnt understand what i would type all those drugs he used and sold fried his little brain plus to busy trying to keep all then scams/fraud deals seperate
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Proof :?: Dude you are allover the internet as a scammer, anywhere you look on any racing website your name pop's up first :!: :!: I just have a feeling your day's of racing,scamming are just about over :!: Between folk's here and on YB and other sites, Your fun and scamming will be short lived :!: :!: You have fun with Bubba, write home often :!: :!:
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Originally Posted by TwinFoggerSBC
Originally Posted by dragonmaster093
i now see why twinscammer couldnt understand what i would type all those drugs he used and sold fried his little brain plus to busy trying to keep all then scams/fraud deals seperate
look at your rapsheet jackass!!! :lol: |
Originally Posted by harbone66
Originally Posted by TwinFoggerSBC
Originally Posted by dragonmaster093
i now see why twinscammer couldnt understand what i would type all those drugs he used and sold fried his little brain plus to busy trying to keep all then scams/fraud deals seperate
look at your rapsheet jackass!!! :lol: Any other surprises up your sleeve? :) I think its time. Scorp |
HIT EM!! :twisted:
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Originally Posted by TwinFoggerSBC
Originally Posted by dragonmaster093
i now see why twinscammer couldnt understand what i would type all those drugs he used and sold fried his little brain plus to busy trying to keep all then scams/fraud deals seperate
Same Dallas criminal division website. More interesting info :) Chris: Next :) Scorp |
Hey Jacoby,
What about that oustanding warrant issued for you on 12/09/2009?? with all that hard cash you are sittin on you would think you would be smart enough to pay your court fines?!?!?! quess you are not as smart as you think... |
LOOKING AT HIS RAP SHEET, THE ONLY ONE WITH THE BIG TIME PLAYER MONEY IS HIS LAWYER! :roll:
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Re: What a Surprise
[quote="Scorpion1110"]
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
lol lol lol lol
You guys are both scammers and this is hilarious. Here's why Forum users, and I had to do some research to get this clear: Fogger orders 4 items from KYSpeed. I believe Fogger's intent was to use the paypal chargeback scam; See this link: http://www.paypalwarning.com/paypal_helps_crook_steal http://www.screw-paypal.com/paypal_f...igh_fraud.html Once he had received the merchandise, he would file a dispute with paypal and get his money back. He would win the dispute and have cash and items. He would have the boxes and have paid nothing. A common scam and it would be up to KY Speed to pursue, and probably not worth it for $3,320. However the scammer got "scammed" by KySpeed. Why? Because KYSpeed didnt ship the items. lol So Fogger sent the cash, KYSpeed didnt send the items. KYSpeed pulled the money out of the account, and then Paypal upheld the dispute and sent Fogger his cash back. Thats why KYSpeed is on a payment plan- he is simply giving them back what he already removed. So effectively everyone is where they started lol. And thats why they both have letters- You see these are auto-generated letters that are based on keywords in the email lol. Fogger has his $3320 but not the boxes he intended to misappropriate from KYSpeed. KYSpeed has his $3320 worth of boxes which as Tod74 alluded in another thread he SHOULD have shipped when they were ordered. He held the boxes and had the cash. Is that a scam? remember he already posted that he was doing a daily sweep from his Paypal account- he should have sent those boxes immediately. He waited and while he waited, Fogger implemented his chargeback scheme. lol. It was only by not shipping timely and holding the merchandise that was paid for that he disrupted the scammer.This is hilarious. Forum Users- Dont deal with either and enjoy this thread for its comic value. Littlerod, I think you need to do some tradin with these fellars. lol lol lol Scorp ************************************************** ********* Just to add 02/11/2010 Interesting how the daily back and forth ceased once we started putting the pieces together- Allways that way. Next we get a post that says "Well I dont care anymore" or "I have better things to do". Seems they always cease to care when they get exposed. Now if only they knew the info that I got via PM- I think they'd care about that. But thats for another day :) Scorp Question has been answered; summary here. He took the money and did not ship parts. However Fogger did a chargeback through paypal and got his money returned. Neither party is OUT ANYTHING. Scorp |
Re: What a Surprise
[quote="WildBillRacing"]
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
lol lol lol lol
You guys are both scammers and this is hilarious. Here's why Forum users, and I had to do some research to get this clear: Fogger orders 4 items from KYSpeed. I believe Fogger's intent was to use the paypal chargeback scam; See this link: http://www.paypalwarning.com/paypal_helps_crook_steal http://www.screw-paypal.com/paypal_f...igh_fraud.html Once he had received the merchandise, he would file a dispute with paypal and get his money back. He would win the dispute and have cash and items. He would have the boxes and have paid nothing. A common scam and it would be up to KY Speed to pursue, and probably not worth it for $3,320. However the scammer got "scammed" by KySpeed. Why? Because KYSpeed didnt ship the items. lol So Fogger sent the cash, KYSpeed didnt send the items. KYSpeed pulled the money out of the account, and then Paypal upheld the dispute and sent Fogger his cash back. Thats why KYSpeed is on a payment plan- he is simply giving them back what he already removed. So effectively everyone is where they started lol. And thats why they both have letters- You see these are auto-generated letters that are based on keywords in the email lol. Fogger has his $3320 but not the boxes he intended to misappropriate from KYSpeed. KYSpeed has his $3320 worth of boxes which as Tod74 alluded in another thread he SHOULD have shipped when they were ordered. He held the boxes and had the cash. Is that a scam? remember he already posted that he was doing a daily sweep from his Paypal account- he should have sent those boxes immediately. He waited and while he waited, Fogger implemented his chargeback scheme. lol. It was only by not shipping timely and holding the merchandise that was paid for that he disrupted the scammer.This is hilarious. Forum Users- Dont deal with either and enjoy this thread for its comic value. Littlerod, I think you need to do some tradin with these fellars. lol lol lol Scorp ************************************************** ********* Just to add 02/11/2010 Interesting how the daily back and forth ceased once we started putting the pieces together- Allways that way. Next we get a post that says "Well I dont care anymore" or "I have better things to do". Seems they always cease to care when they get exposed. Now if only they knew the info that I got via PM- I think they'd care about that. But thats for another day :) Scorp Question has been answered; summary here. He took the money and did not ship parts. However Fogger did a chargeback through paypal and got his money returned. Neither party is OUT ANYTHING. Scorp And Bill as I said when you called me a Phuckstick on YB- Call me sir when you post behind me ok :) When you get your manners straight you'll be welcome here. Scorp |
my ID proves who I am. names Jacob. its really that simple. i posted my ID but you clowns arent man enough to admit when youre wrong. i expect it.
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Originally Posted by TwinFoggerSBC
my ID proves who I am. names Jacob. its really that simple. i posted my ID but you clowns arent man enough to admit when youre wrong. i expect it.
Nice try Jacoby Glen Harper DOB 11/17/1983. lol lol lol Scorp |
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