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TwinFoggerSBC 02-09-2010 02:11 PM

You are a crook and a thief Dwight. Just answer the question....you put money into your bank acct without ever having any intentions to ship what you were paid for? That's a thief...try spinning that all you want but that's a crook. You took money without having any intentions to pay it back. I don't trust you or Paypal. Both of you are crooks, my email shows what I recovered which was $0. You are a thief and a crook and I will make sure this thread stays at the top. Your BBB profile speaks for itself as well as your rep here does too. Answer the question, why did you put $$ into your bank acct knowing you had no intentions of shipping goods.

Scorpion1110 02-09-2010 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by TwinFoggerSBC
You are a crook and a thief Dwight. Just answer the question....you put money into your bank acct without ever having any intentions to ship what you were paid for? That's a thief...try spinning that all you want but that's a crook. You took money without having any intentions to pay it back. I don't trust you or Paypal. Both of you are crooks, my email shows what I recovered which was $0. You are a thief and a crook and I will make sure this thread stays at the top. Your BBB profile speaks for itself as well as your rep here does too. Answer the question, why did you put $$ into your bank acct knowing you had no intentions of shipping goods.

You missed Liar!

But you did call paypal a crook so you get a 1/2 point.

Scorp

MEMRACING62 02-09-2010 02:17 PM

FOGGER YOUR NOTHING BUT A SCAMMING TOOL!! :evil: WHY DONT YOU GO CLIMB BACK UNDER THE CRAP COVERED ROCK YOU CAME FROM. :evil:

kyspeedparts 02-09-2010 02:19 PM

Fogger, your on your way out. I have answered the questions and have posted the proof. Wheres yours? You just keep repeating yourself. The guys on YellowBullet know you all too well and I think the people on RJ can see what kind of MAN you are. Look in the mirror.

Scorpion1110 02-09-2010 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by kyspeedparts
Here is a copy of the e-mail I just recieved from PayPal. I think this will say everything about the character that fogger is and what he was trying to pull against me. My door is always open. We did not and have not ripped this idiot off. Thank you to those who showed support. Dwight. 859-647-7223.

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Dear Kentucky Speed and Performance,

Thank you for contacting PayPal with your concern.

(Dwight Workman)



This is to notify you that the chargeback case of PP-732-695-982 has
been completed and the buyer did win that chargeback and his credit card
was reimbursed fully by PayPal
. Kentucky Speed and Performance is in the
process of reimbursing PayPal. Thank you for your attention to this
matter
.

The

Thanks again for contacting us, and thank you for being part of the
PayPal community.

Sincerely,
Charlene
PayPal Resolution Services
PayPal, an eBay Company

Hey Fog:

What's this mean?

In you own words.

Scorp

Liars and Thieves and Crooks, Oh My!

kyspeedparts 02-09-2010 02:24 PM

Any of the RJ non scammers been over on YellowBullet today and read all of the nice things they are saying about our friend. Some call him twinscammer, others call him twinfaggot. I'm kind or torn between the two.

Scorpion1110 02-09-2010 02:37 PM

If you wanted to run a Paypal scam with chargebacks and shipped merchandise, where might you get the idea.....................

http://www.paypalwarning.com/paypal_helps_crook_steal

Scorp

dragonmaster093 02-09-2010 02:55 PM

i had my doubts on both but with proof now i say im sorry to ky speed

kyspeedparts 02-09-2010 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
If you wanted to run a Paypal scam with chargebacks and shipped merchandise, where might you get the idea.....................

http://www.paypalwarning.com/paypal_helps_crook_steal

Scorp

LMAO!!! Man, I wonder if it was twinscammer???

kyspeedparts 02-09-2010 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by dragonmaster093
i had my doubts on both but with proof now i say im sorry to ky speed

I understand the way these forums work. No appology needed although it would be nice to see twinscammer actually check with his old cc company and actually find out that the money was put back on his card. Maybe an appology from him. Who knows, he might even be able to save some face (I doubt it)??? Thanks again to all of those who (wound up) supported me. Discounts to all!!!

dragonmaster093 02-09-2010 08:56 PM

hmm twinfogger was here 11:50-11:54 pm central time and didnt say high or rebute the proof

TwinFoggerSBC 02-09-2010 09:01 PM

Slice it anyway you like...the facts are clear.


kyspeedparts took money for parts, put them in their bank acct...closed their acct and ran off with the money and NEVER had any intentions of shipping parts. thats a crook and a thief. no 2 ways about....if you take money for parts and then deposit it into your bank acct without ever having intentions of sending parts youre a thief and a crook. whats so hard to understand here? Dwight Workman of Kentucky Speed and Performance is a crook. if he had no intentions of shipping parts, YOU DO NOT TAKE MONEY FROM SOMEONE. Thats the bottomline.

dragonmaster093 02-09-2010 09:04 PM

he showed proof from paypal that you just want payed twice cause your first scam didnt work. so no one beleives your b.s. story

TwinFoggerSBC 02-09-2010 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by TwinFoggerSBC
Slice it anyway you like...the facts are clear.


kyspeedparts took money for parts, put them in their bank acct...closed their acct and ran off with the money and NEVER had any intentions of shipping parts. thats a crook and a thief. no 2 ways about....if you take money for parts and then deposit it into your bank acct without ever having intentions of sending parts youre a thief and a crook. whats so hard to understand here? Dwight Workman of Kentucky Speed and Performance is a crook. if he had no intentions of shipping parts, YOU DO NOT TAKE MONEY FROM SOMEONE. Thats the bottomline.

Again....

MEMRACING62 02-09-2010 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
FOGGER YOUR NOTHING BUT A SCAMMING TOOL!! :evil: WHY DONT YOU GO CLIMB BACK UNDER THE CRAP COVERED ROCK YOU CAME FROM. :evil:


TwinFoggerSBC 02-09-2010 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by dragonmaster093
he showed proof from paypal that you just want payed twice cause your first scam didnt work. so no one beleives your b.s. story

Hows that proof? I dont know if thats from Paypal or not, regardless it doesnt matter to me because I think Paypal is just as big a crook as Dwight of kyspeedparts. Their work speaks for itself too. Dwight, the complaints on your BBB profile...those guys tried scamming you too? I dont trust Paypal, they are crooks and it has been proven. People simply use them because theirs no other alternatives. I knew just how much of a crook they were when they let Dwight steal my money and even though they TOOK % of the money they still tells me THERE WAS NO MONEY recovered when at the least the money they took from the payment should of been recovered. The guy took money and put it into his bank acct and never had any intentions of sending what he was paid for. Why? He needed a loan or what? The guy is a crook and a thief, and a liar. He verified and confirmed the email address I received from Paypal with his own words, so thats how you know the email I posted was true. The guy is a liar and a thief, and I will continue to let it be known.

dragonmaster093 02-09-2010 09:10 PM

you wouldnt be here if your scam worked get parts and then file coplaint and got your money back so just get lost

TwinFoggerSBC 02-09-2010 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by MEMRACING62

Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
FOGGER YOUR NOTHING BUT A SCAMMING TOOL!! :evil: WHY DONT YOU GO CLIMB BACK UNDER THE CRAP COVERED ROCK YOU CAME FROM. :evil:


I think youre a scamming tool....

TwinFoggerSBC 02-09-2010 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by dragonmaster093
you wouldnt be here if your scam worked get parts and then file coplaint and got your money back so just get lost

The email from Paypal proves what I got back, and thats nothing because Dwight had already stolen the money and he admitted he put the money into his bank acct and closed it before Paypal could take it back. He also admitted he never intended to send the parts. Thats a crook in anyone with any kind of common sense book.

dragonmaster093 02-09-2010 09:13 PM

twinscammer you and your scamming leing kind arent welcome here. your a low life pos and will never be anything more

TwinFoggerSBC 02-09-2010 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by dragonmaster093
twinscammer you and your scamming leing kind arent welcome here. your a low life pos and will never be anything more

talk english next time...Thanks in advance!!

MEMRACING62 02-09-2010 09:18 PM

fogger think ya need to head back to yb....... there tearing your scammer azz over there....... while your there STAY

dragonmaster093 02-09-2010 09:22 PM

here lets try this YOU ARE A LIAR AND A SCAMMING PILE OF STEAMING PILE OF CRAP AND WILL NEVER BE ANYTHING MORE. YOUR KIND ARE NOT WELCOME HERE. AND BY THAT VID OF YOU RACING YOU ARENT MUCH OF A DRIVER EITHER

TwinFoggerSBC 02-09-2010 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by dragonmaster093
here lets try this YOU ARE A LIAR AND A SCAMMING PILE OF STEAMING PILE OF CRAP AND WILL NEVER BE ANYTHING MORE. YOUR KIND ARE NOT WELCOME HERE. AND BY THAT VID OF YOU RACING YOU ARENT MUCH OF A DRIVER EITHER

I cant control something being on the track genius...wheres your car?

TwinFoggerSBC 02-09-2010 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
fogger think ya need to head back to yb....... there tearing your scammer azz over there....... while your there STAY

I am on YB every chance I get clowning those idiots...

dragonmaster093 02-09-2010 09:28 PM

JUST FULL OF EXCUSES ARENT YOU. ALL TALK CANT PROVE ANYTHING YOU SAY. OR RATHER WONT CAUSE THEN WE WOULD ALL SEE THAT YOUR ARE A LIAR,THEIF CROOK, AND JUST A PLAIN OLD LOW LIFE SCUM BAG

TwinFoggerSBC 02-09-2010 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by dragonmaster093
JUST FULL OF EXCUSES ARENT YOU. ALL TALK CANT PROVE ANYTHING YOU SAY. OR RATHER WONT CAUSE THEN WE WOULD ALL SEE THAT YOUR ARE A LIAR,THEIF CROOK, AND JUST A PLAIN OLD LOW LIFE SCUM BAG

Why dont you start quoting posts because I seriously do not have a clue what you are talking about half of the time.

dragonmaster093 02-09-2010 09:34 PM

SORRY YOU DONT SPEAK PLAIN ENGLISH IS IT TO COMPLICATED FOR YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO DUMMY THING UP SO YOU UNDERSTAND NOT MY FAULT YOU ARE IGNORANT

TwinFoggerSBC 02-09-2010 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by dragonmaster093
SORRY YOU DONT SPEAK PLAIN ENGLISH IS IT TO COMPLICATED FOR YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO DUMMY THING UP SO YOU UNDERSTAND NOT MY FAULT YOU ARE IGNORANT

I am just guessing here but english isnt your first language?

Harbone 02-10-2010 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by TwinFoggerSBC

Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
fogger think ya need to head back to yb....... there tearing your scammer azz over there....... while your there STAY

I am on YB every chance I get clowning those idiots...

for some reason I do believe you fit in just right over there, you calling them idiots is like the pot calling the kettle black...

Scorpion1110 02-10-2010 06:14 AM

lol lol lol lol

You guys are both scammers and this is hilarious.

Here's why Forum users, and I had to do some research to get this clear:

Fogger orders 4 items from KYSpeed. I believe Fogger's intent was to use the paypal chargeback scam; See this link:

http://www.paypalwarning.com/paypal_helps_crook_steal

http://www.screw-paypal.com/paypal_f...igh_fraud.html

Once he had received the merchandise, he would file a dispute with paypal and get his money back. He would win the dispute and have cash and items.

He would have the boxes and have paid nothing. A common scam and it would be up to KY Speed to pursue, and probably not worth it for $3,320.

However the scammer got "scammed" by KySpeed. Why? Because KYSpeed didnt ship the items. lol

So Fogger sent the cash, KYSpeed didnt send the items. KYSpeed pulled the money out of the account, and then Paypal upheld the dispute and sent Fogger his cash back. Thats why KYSpeed is on a payment plan- he is simply giving them back what he already removed.

So effectively everyone is where they started lol. And thats why they both have letters- You see these are auto-generated letters that are based on keywords in the email lol.

Fogger has his $3320 but not the boxes he intended to misappropriate from KYSpeed.

KYSpeed has his $3320 worth of boxes which as Tod74 alluded in another thread he SHOULD have shipped when they were ordered. He held the boxes and had the cash. Is that a scam? remember he already posted that he was doing a daily sweep from his Paypal account- he should have sent those boxes immediately. He waited and while he waited, Fogger implemented his chargeback scheme. lol.

It was only by not shipping timely and holding the merchandise that was paid for that he disrupted the scammer.This is hilarious.

Forum Users- Dont deal with either and enjoy this thread for its comic value.

Littlerod, I think you need to do some tradin with these fellars.

lol lol lol

Scorp

Liars and Thieves and Crooks oh My!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

itsabird 02-10-2010 08:18 AM

thank's scorp, more sunlight always help.

dragonmaster093 02-10-2010 06:03 PM

so quiet now i think i heard a pin drop no responses not even twiin cammer aka big mouth

mopar1968 02-10-2010 06:56 PM

Fogger we all know now that you are a scammer, So with that said if you can't tell by now i will spell it out for you :!: :!: WE DO NOT WANT YOU HERE GO BACK TO YB WHERE YOUR KIND BELONG :!: :!: SCAT BE GONE :!: :!: Your a scammer Ky speed has provided proof to that fact :!: :!:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

oldcarparts 02-10-2010 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by harbone66

Originally Posted by TwinFoggerSBC

Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
fogger think ya need to head back to yb....... there tearing your scammer azz over there....... while your there STAY

I am on YB every chance I get clowning those idiots...

for some reason I do believe you fit in just right over there, you calling them idiots is like the pot calling the kettle black...


so if everyone there are idiots then you must be one also since you posted there also....not nice to classify everyone on a forum because of a couple of idiots................jerk

Tod74 02-10-2010 10:03 PM

I'm glad Scorp pointed out what I been saying for several days. They are both dishonest.

Harbone 02-11-2010 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by oldcarparts

Originally Posted by harbone66

Originally Posted by TwinFoggerSBC

Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
fogger think ya need to head back to yb....... there tearing your scammer azz over there....... while your there STAY

I am on YB every chance I get clowning those idiots...

for some reason I do believe you fit in just right over there, you calling them idiots is like the pot calling the kettle black...


so if everyone there are idiots then you must be one also since you posted there also....not nice to classify everyone on a forum because of a couple of idiots................jerk

I'm so sorry, did I hurt your feelings :?: :roll:

THERATTLER 02-11-2010 05:15 AM

I thought he was responding to what fogger said????

Harbone 02-11-2010 05:21 AM

looked like he was talking to me, if he wasnt, my apologies... :lol:

Scorpion1110 02-11-2010 03:34 PM

What a Surprise
 
[quote="Scorpion1110"]lol lol lol lol

You guys are both scammers and this is hilarious.

Here's why Forum users, and I had to do some research to get this clear:

Fogger orders 4 items from KYSpeed. I believe Fogger's intent was to use the paypal chargeback scam; See this link:

http://www.paypalwarning.com/paypal_helps_crook_steal

http://www.screw-paypal.com/paypal_f...igh_fraud.html

Once he had received the merchandise, he would file a dispute with paypal and get his money back. He would win the dispute and have cash and items.

He would have the boxes and have paid nothing. A common scam and it would be up to KY Speed to pursue, and probably not worth it for $3,320.

However the scammer got "scammed" by KySpeed. Why? Because KYSpeed didnt ship the items. lol

So Fogger sent the cash, KYSpeed didnt send the items. KYSpeed pulled the money out of the account, and then Paypal upheld the dispute and sent Fogger his cash back. Thats why KYSpeed is on a payment plan- he is simply giving them back what he already removed.

So effectively everyone is where they started lol. And thats why they both have letters- You see these are auto-generated letters that are based on keywords in the email lol.

Fogger has his $3320 but not the boxes he intended to misappropriate from KYSpeed.

KYSpeed has his $3320 worth of boxes which as Tod74 alluded in another thread he SHOULD have shipped when they were ordered. He held the boxes and had the cash. Is that a scam? remember he already posted that he was doing a daily sweep from his Paypal account- he should have sent those boxes immediately. He waited and while he waited, Fogger implemented his chargeback scheme. lol.

It was only by not shipping timely and holding the merchandise that was paid for that he disrupted the scammer.This is hilarious.

Forum Users- Dont deal with either and enjoy this thread for its comic value.

Littlerod, I think you need to do some tradin with these fellars.

lol lol lol

Scorp
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Just to add 02/11/2010

Interesting how the daily back and forth ceased once we started putting the pieces together- Allways that way. Next we get a post that says "Well I dont care anymore" or "I have better things to do".

Seems they always cease to care when they get exposed.

Now if only they knew the info that I got via PM- I think they'd care about that.

But thats for another day :)

Scorp


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