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Originally Posted by harbone66
I am back on the fence, neither one has shown what I would call "solid" evidence to support their stories. Its all he said/he said at this point. Time to move onto a new task and like Scorp said, just let these 2 beat each other down. :D
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That's great slowmo, hey Tod you can save it, just right click and save picture to documents.
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I do not believe that paypal paid Fogger back. It was on a debit and was verified by the bank before funds were released. I think that paypal did just what it said and IF MONEY BECAME AVAILABLE they would try to recover it. Ky closed his account and if he is making payments you can bet the farm they have not payed Fogger yet and I doubt they will without proper representation (read Lawyer). I could be wrong, but as I said I KNOW EXACTLY HOW PAYPAL OPERATES. They are just an extension of eBay. eBay could'nt compete with them so they just bought them........and then ruined it
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it seems obvious that ks is lying here.dwight already said that he has the money still.as far as tf is concerned,he has a lot of fans on yellowbullet.the truth is he is right though.no one can come forward and flat out say that he owes them anything.tf got a bad rep for being a cocky sob.he is a yellowbullet icon :D i spend a lot of time on yb and can tell you it is not the first time ks has come up as scamming some one.
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I accidentally started a thread about this on Yellowbullet....
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...ighlight=VIDEO They were not very simpathetic to TFSBC getting ripped off.....he has many fans over there. :lol: Here is a video of his car someone posted...Black Camaro...seen pics of it before looks pretty sick with the satin/flat black paint... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTymhq8xpHA |
Originally Posted by blownalky3
I do not believe that paypal paid Fogger back. It was on a debit and was verified by the bank before funds were released. I think that paypal did just what it said and IF MONEY BECAME AVAILABLE they would try to recover it. Ky closed his account and if he is making payments you can bet the farm they have not payed Fogger yet and I doubt they will without proper representation (read Lawyer). I could be wrong, but as I said I KNOW EXACTLY HOW PAYPAL OPERATES. They are just an extension of eBay. eBay could'nt compete with them so they just bought them........and then ruined it
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Originally Posted by mytmouz
Originally Posted by blownalky3
I do not believe that paypal paid Fogger back. It was on a debit and was verified by the bank before funds were released. I think that paypal did just what it said and IF MONEY BECAME AVAILABLE they would try to recover it. Ky closed his account and if he is making payments you can bet the farm they have not payed Fogger yet and I doubt they will without proper representation (read Lawyer). I could be wrong, but as I said I KNOW EXACTLY HOW PAYPAL OPERATES. They are just an extension of eBay. eBay could'nt compete with them so they just bought them........and then ruined it
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Originally Posted by Tod74
Originally Posted by mytmouz
Originally Posted by blownalky3
I do not believe that paypal paid Fogger back. It was on a debit and was verified by the bank before funds were released. I think that paypal did just what it said and IF MONEY BECAME AVAILABLE they would try to recover it. Ky closed his account and if he is making payments you can bet the farm they have not payed Fogger yet and I doubt they will without proper representation (read Lawyer). I could be wrong, but as I said I KNOW EXACTLY HOW PAYPAL OPERATES. They are just an extension of eBay. eBay could'nt compete with them so they just bought them........and then ruined it
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Tod
WOW, YB people are not Foggers friends. Can you have NVMYVETTESPENISHEAD go read that thread on YB? He will have to agree that the RJ folks are downright nice people. 18 pages......Amazeing. Fogger I kinda stuck up for you but after reading your replies on YB I have to ask myself why? I surely hope for your sake that NOBODY really knows who you are. I assume if your profile was filled out with your real name and people could put a face to the smack talking, your ankle would be the least of your worries. Do you really have to be such an arrogant ass???? |
Originally Posted by Tod74
Originally Posted by mytmouz
Originally Posted by blownalky3
I do not believe that paypal paid Fogger back. It was on a debit and was verified by the bank before funds were released. I think that paypal did just what it said and IF MONEY BECAME AVAILABLE they would try to recover it. Ky closed his account and if he is making payments you can bet the farm they have not payed Fogger yet and I doubt they will without proper representation (read Lawyer). I could be wrong, but as I said I KNOW EXACTLY HOW PAYPAL OPERATES. They are just an extension of eBay. eBay could'nt compete with them so they just bought them........and then ruined it
still doesn't change the fact that KS is a crook as well...which was the point of the thread,,,warn others that he is dishonest. |
Trust me, fogger is a crook. He played a part if not the sole part in scamming me out of $1450 last year. He is not to be trusted, at all.
The video of his car being wrecked was posted by me. An annonymous person sent it to me and I thought it would be a perfect fit for that thread on YB. Anybody have questions my email is david@davidlemmond,com I dont get on th RJ bulliten board so I may not see any reply directed at me. Have a good day. |
I want to be clear...just because I took his side(sort of) on the deal with KSP I DO NOT TRUST HIM..HE IS A CROOK. I believe he was trying to scam KSP here and ended up getting ripped off...so it serves him right, HOWEVER, it also shows the kind of business man KSP is..I wouldn't trade nickles with either of them/.
P.S. The guys on Yellowbullet DO know who he is......I also believe the arrogance is just done to piss everyone off while he sits back and laughs...aka TROLL |
Check out the picture someone posted on Yellowbullet....I can't post it here because it has the "F" word on it.
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...=VIDEO&page=18 "No money back guarantee" :lol: |
tod email me it cause im not yb member so i cant look
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Todd , can't you block out the word??? we all want to see it
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its funny think littlerod has same book
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Yeah i would like to see it i am not a member and don't want to be. Sorry mods could not delete wording, please forgive me :!: :!: This is from YB :!: :!:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...96814/sbci.jpg ''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH'' |
for those of you scammers needing a copy the price is $30 plus shipping and hadling. cover can be customized with you name if needed little rod you better order a couple copies
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Originally Posted by mopar1968
Yeah i would like to see it i am not a member and don't want to be. Sorry mods could not delete wording, please forgive me :!: :!: This is from YB :!: :!:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...96814/sbci.jpg ''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH'' |
Been out of town. I give them clowns on YB just as much shit as they try to give me. I posted my address numerous times and no1 ever showed up, why? LOL it dont take much to guess why. Any1 can talk tough on the internet. but that means nothing to me.
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Originally Posted by davidlemmond
Trust me, fogger is a crook. He played a part if not the sole part in scamming me out of $1450 last year. He is not to be trusted, at all.
The video of his car being wrecked was posted by me. An annonymous person sent it to me and I thought it would be a perfect fit for that thread on YB. Anybody have questions my email is david@davidlemmond,com I dont get on th RJ bulliten board so I may not see any reply directed at me. Have a good day. |
Originally Posted by Tod74
I want to be clear...just because I took his side(sort of) on the deal with KSP I DO NOT TRUST HIM..HE IS A CROOK. I believe he was trying to scam KSP here and ended up getting ripped off...so it serves him right, HOWEVER, it also shows the kind of business man KSP is..I wouldn't trade nickles with either of them/.
P.S. The guys on Yellowbullet DO know who he is......I also believe the arrogance is just done to piss everyone off while he sits back and laughs...aka TROLL |
Originally Posted by blownalky3
I do not believe that paypal paid Fogger back. It was on a debit and was verified by the bank before funds were released. I think that paypal did just what it said and IF MONEY BECAME AVAILABLE they would try to recover it. Ky closed his account and if he is making payments you can bet the farm they have not payed Fogger yet and I doubt they will without proper representation (read Lawyer). I could be wrong, but as I said I KNOW EXACTLY HOW PAYPAL OPERATES. They are just an extension of eBay. eBay could'nt compete with them so they just bought them........and then ruined it
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Originally Posted by Tod74
I accidentally started a thread about this on Yellowbullet....
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...ighlight=VIDEO They were not very simpathetic to TFSBC getting ripped off.....he has many fans over there. :lol: Here is a video of his car someone posted...Black Camaro...seen pics of it before looks pretty sick with the satin/flat black paint... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTymhq8xpHA |
Originally Posted by mytmouz
Originally Posted by blownalky3
I do not believe that paypal paid Fogger back. It was on a debit and was verified by the bank before funds were released. I think that paypal did just what it said and IF MONEY BECAME AVAILABLE they would try to recover it. Ky closed his account and if he is making payments you can bet the farm they have not payed Fogger yet and I doubt they will without proper representation (read Lawyer). I could be wrong, but as I said I KNOW EXACTLY HOW PAYPAL OPERATES. They are just an extension of eBay. eBay could'nt compete with them so they just bought them........and then ruined it
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Originally Posted by christiandseller
Originally Posted by Tod74
Originally Posted by mytmouz
Originally Posted by blownalky3
I do not believe that paypal paid Fogger back. It was on a debit and was verified by the bank before funds were released. I think that paypal did just what it said and IF MONEY BECAME AVAILABLE they would try to recover it. Ky closed his account and if he is making payments you can bet the farm they have not payed Fogger yet and I doubt they will without proper representation (read Lawyer). I could be wrong, but as I said I KNOW EXACTLY HOW PAYPAL OPERATES. They are just an extension of eBay. eBay could'nt compete with them so they just bought them........and then ruined it
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Originally Posted by TwinFoggerSBC
Dwight, I filed a dispute with Paypal. He could of easily refunded me then and this mess would never happened. Instead he didnt, he had already stole the money and Paypal werent able to recover any of my funds.
Also. Dwight...you said you chose NOT to do business with me...Why didnt you say that when we discussed the boxes...why did you accept my money and why did you deposit my money into your bank acct if you had no intentions of sending the parts you were paid for? Youre a crook and a thief...and these are legit questions that I doubt get answered. They have been ignored everytime I have asked them. |
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You know folk's, What i think is happening here is two scammer's have hit face to face, And neither will admit guilt, One trying to over come the other. But both loosing in the long run with thousand's reading this + Other site's talking about the same people, So guy's neither of you is going to admit guilt so this need's to be dropped. I agree with Dragon the both of you are beating a dead horse :!: :!: JMO
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yup......they both deserve each other!! :twisted:
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Originally Posted by mopar1968
You know folk's, What i think is happening here is two scammer's have hit face to face, And neither will admit guilt, One trying to over come the other. But both loosing in the long run with thousand's reading this + Other site's talking about the same people, So guy's neither of you is going to admit guilt so this need's to be dropped. I agree with Dragon the both of you are beating a dead horse :!: :!: JMO
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH'' |
Originally Posted by TwinFoggerSBC
Originally Posted by mytmouz
Originally Posted by blownalky3
I do not believe that paypal paid Fogger back. It was on a debit and was verified by the bank before funds were released. I think that paypal did just what it said and IF MONEY BECAME AVAILABLE they would try to recover it. Ky closed his account and if he is making payments you can bet the farm they have not payed Fogger yet and I doubt they will without proper representation (read Lawyer). I could be wrong, but as I said I KNOW EXACTLY HOW PAYPAL OPERATES. They are just an extension of eBay. eBay could'nt compete with them so they just bought them........and then ruined it
go back thru the posts or learn how to read or go find someone who can and maybe they will read it to you because i have answered that question more than once. So, for the last time, nice as I know how, DID YOU RECIEVE A REFUND FROM YOUR BANK, CREDIT CARD COMPANY, PAYPAL, or perhaps the tooth fairy... |
Originally Posted by kyspeedparts
Ky Speed would have the money because of the dispute with PayPal has not been settled. If anything were to be owed, it would be to PayPal, which is an entirely different matter. If we owe twinfoggersbc, we will take care of it.
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Originally Posted by slowmotion
Why did he have to file a dispute with his cc? Why didn't you just refund his money in the first place?
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Originally Posted by maniac
Originally Posted by kyspeedparts
Ky Speed would have the money because of the dispute with PayPal has not been settled. If anything were to be owed, it would be to PayPal, which is an entirely different matter. If we owe twinfoggersbc, we will take care of it.
you get money for parts you send no parts you refund no money CASE CLOSED |
Originally Posted by slowmotion
Originally Posted by kyspeedparts
You stated that you disputed this a "few days after". Why would someone file a dispute just a few days after a purchase. Normally, a guy will wait at least a week or two to file a dispute. Come on. You filed a dispute because you had every intention of doing so from the get go, just like you did the first time. We just decided not to do it the second time. Twinfoggersbc, if you haven't been refunded by your cc company, I will make it right, but if I'm not mistaken, it would have to go through PayPal to be done because they are the ones you initially paid. Again, I will get with them to find out. I will do my part on my end. When he disputed the transaction, Why didn't you didn't you refund the money to paypal and be done with it? They would've refunded his money and it would've been done. |
Originally Posted by blownalky3
Dwight
You owe the man his money. I know exactly how you pulled this off because I do the same with all my paypal stuff. I remove money from my paypal only bank account so it can't be hacked and me lose all that is in that account. You move money the same, except for maybe a different purpose than I. It has become real clear here you owe the guy and you are just getting deeper and deeper. If you pay him his money I am sure he will contact paypal and dismiss this claim therefor you won't be paying twice. After all, you have this thread of 300 messages to verify your side if he does what you already did, SCAM THE SYSTEM. You are nuts if you think anybody believes you don't remember stealing $3320 from someone you assumed had bad intentions. He paid the first time AND THE SECOND TIME. NOW PAY THE MAN AND MAKE THIS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Originally Posted by TwinFoggerSBC
I never received anything back for this transaction. I filed a dispute with Paypal and he had already stolen the money so they weren't able to recover any of my funds. I stopped doing business with that bank right after that. There was no money he stole it. Paypal didn't have anything to give me, Dwight had already stole the money. He knows what he did. And if after that Had Dwight made things right I figure my bank would of contacted me had Paypal gave them any money on my behalf since I closed my acct with them. I wouldn't be going thru this had I got my money Dwight stole.
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