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langjones 06-12-2011 06:03 AM

Thanks to all you guys for replying. I took some pics yesterday so you could see for yourself. Bare chassis, partially welded, not 1 complete weld forward of the 4 link brackets.

http://s1090.photobucket.com/albums/...cs%2006-11-11/

I need to get off my butt and get it in the shop.....

zipper06 06-12-2011 10:15 PM

I looked at every picture, most people would said you usually get what you pay for, but in this case i don't think you got anywhere near what you paid for. I can not even see how he was going to mount the body, and i've never seen anyone gut a car body without first welding in braces to make sure the body doesn't twist. I don't know how you are going to get the doors and front end to lineup on the body lines. I don't know what you wanted the car to certify to, but i don't think you have enough bars for it to even certify to 8.50. I don't know what kind of shop he has but the tubing looks like it layed outside the way it is rusted. We have tubing in the machine shop i work at in Ms. for yrs. and it's not rusted. I redid my whole roll cage in my Malibu to get it to certify to 8.50 last yr. and it took me 6 weeks (because i'm and old man 72 now) and it didn't rust before i finished it.
I am trully not surprised at what you got from Mr. Steele and i trully have symphity for you, but you've still got about $3,000.00 worth of work to do.

A couple yrs. ago i bought a complete rectangular tube chassis for my Anglia from A.R.T. with strut mounts,fourlink, and rack and pinion steering including the flaming river rack and pinion and mounts for $1350.00, also a fab 9" housing completely braced with big ford ends for $1050.00. Everything completly welded and beautiful welds, certifiably to 8.50, 7.50 with a few more bars.

Zip.

TuffXR 06-13-2011 12:23 AM

All i can say is if you where that snowed under with work why take it on in the first place??? I'm a panel beater by trade and only do one job at a time for that reason time!!! I think you owe the bloke some thing back my friend, but as others have said i doubt it.

Scooterz 06-13-2011 09:14 AM

Mr Steele??? Evidence & opinions are all given, you have admitted some of the problem, offered to help, etc... stay the course. You are being tested right now... you have proclaimed to be a man of God & quoted scripture. You have an incredible responsibility right now to God & this man... Do not minimize Gods grace/word & all the things you said on earlier e-mails. Man up.

Harbone 06-13-2011 01:06 PM

Still hear nothing but crickets...

zipper06 06-13-2011 10:01 PM

What really needs to be looked at here is that by his own admission he didn't have the money to buy the tubing for the build, what chassis builder doesn't have a couple hundred dollars for a 100 ft of tubing? Duh :!: :!: and he claims to have 5 other projects to build, you can very well bet that if he went to NC to finish the chassis it would be on someone else's dime and then he would be asking that person for more money out front on their build, JMO. The original poster got screwed and big time. The struts he uses is outdated by 25/30 yrs. I built a vega wagon in the early 80's useing MG struts, but by the late 80's i was building struts for a couple chassis builders in Phx. in my machine shop. Either way he's not going to make it right with the original poster in my opinion and i seriously doubt he has all the work he has come on here to say he does. It's sad to see someone get ripped off that bad with a fast talking loser.

JMO

Zip.

Scooterz 06-14-2011 10:35 AM

I like Zipps common sense on this issue. It is simple. I sent him a PM (Mr Steele).

langjones 06-16-2011 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by zipper06
What really needs to be looked at here is that by his own admission he didn't have the money to buy the tubing for the build, what chassis builder doesn't have a couple hundred dollars for a 100 ft of tubing? Duh :!: :!: and he claims to have 5 other projects to build, you can very well bet that if he went to NC to finish the chassis it would be on someone else's dime and then he would be asking that person for more money out front on their build, JMO. The original poster got screwed and big time. The struts he uses is outdated by 25/30 yrs. I built a vega wagon in the early 80's useing MG struts, but by the late 80's i was building struts for a couple chassis builders in Phx. in my machine shop. Either way he's not going to make it right with the original poster in my opinion and i seriously doubt he has all the work he has come on here to say he does. It's sad to see someone get ripped off that bad with a fast talking loser.

JMO

Zip.


I believe you are dead on Zip!

mopar1968 06-16-2011 07:19 PM

I also agree with ''Zip'' :!: This dude isn't going to finish the car he isn't going to travel to finish it :!: Brother you might as well cut your losses and finish it yourself :!:


Mark


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