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BEAST477 12-12-2010 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Tod74
I messaged him the day this thread started.I haven't been back on until today. Here is his answer.


On [2010-12-07 19:29:41] Tod74 wrote:
> You are being called a scammer in the forum. two guys say you sold them this set up. Might want to tell your side.


havent sold to any one one guy sent me a deposit and was suppose to send the rest in one week or his deposit was lost they can call me what they wont i cant help a bunch of broke ass folks try to race with a wellfare budget thanks

What a bunch of BS. A guy sends you $1460.00 and you are just going to keep it. What a POS you are and a real stand up guy you must be among your friends, if you have any that would claim you. This has only begun it will get bad for you.

TheRabbit 12-12-2010 02:34 PM

By his reply he's done this before and he had NO INTENTIONS OF EVER SENDING THOSE PARTS. I would post every bit of info you have on him and would go after him with everything I could.

Tod74 12-12-2010 03:23 PM

I am not one of those tough guys that want to fist fight over things...never have been because it doesn't solve anything,but I think that For $1400 bucks I'd probably look him up and beat the snot out of him. If I wasn't capable I'd get help.

IF THINGS ARE AS THEY APPEAR TO BE THIS GUY IS A REAL SCUMBAG.

jake58 12-12-2010 04:26 PM

SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 
I agree with all of you but how do i make things bad for him i dont know much about him. Michael Reaves, Amanda loftin-reaves ,live in greenville Alabama, PH.3346571268. Thats about it i dont know anyone there to knock the snot out of him, wish i did be money well spent.

bigray 12-12-2010 05:20 PM

on the money u sent, did u send it to his Acct ,,, if so do you have his routing and acct number, ???

jake58 12-12-2010 07:57 PM

SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 
money was sent to his wifes acc i have those numbers.

jake58 12-12-2010 10:01 PM

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bigray 12-13-2010 07:52 AM

OOOOOOOh CRAP... go to your bank ASAP. and you might be able to do a reverse fund transfer,, if the Acct is still open and if they have the money, hurry man ,, hurry,,you will not need the sellers authorization to do this,.. and you can have your bank, pull what info they can from the routing numbers,, but it sounds like you will have to go after, who evers name is on the Acct that you transfered the money to, Also by having the routing numbers, and if you have the Name and address of the bank,,, you can order stuff off that Acct,, oooh man ,, thats great ,IF the Acct is still open,,

Harbone 12-13-2010 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by bigray
OOOOOOOh CRAP... go to your bank ASAP. and you might be able to do a reverse fund transfer,, if the Acct is still open and if they have the money, hurry man ,, hurry,,you will not need the sellers authorization to do this,.. and you can have your bank, pull what info they can from the routing numbers,, but it sounds like you will have to go after, who evers name is on the Acct that you transfered the money to, Also by having the routing numbers, and if you have the Name and address of the bank,,, you can order stuff off that Acct,, oooh man ,, thats great ,IF the Acct is still open,,

Heck, I was looking at new Polaris 4-wheeler last week and I still have'nt bought the wife an xmas present, maybe Santa will come early this year courtesy a scammer :!: :lol:

dragonmaster093 12-13-2010 12:34 PM

daddy needs a new engine come on scammer you can afforf it

Tod74 12-13-2010 03:31 PM

Re: SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 

Originally Posted by jake58
routing numbers oh sh1t

OH SHIT. He has it coming no doubt but that could come back and haunt you.

curtisreed 12-13-2010 04:34 PM

After reading all of this Jake I hope things work out for you.

Curtis

zipper06 12-13-2010 08:54 PM

1st can one of the mod's or RJ ops, check to see if the 2nd post of the $1450.00 came from the same IP address as the first post for $1850.00 or was it hacked. That's the first question.
2nd, Jake do you and can you produce a reciept that you did send him/her the total of the $1460.00 requested for the sale as listed on RJ. If you have and produce this paperwork you have him bank fraud, internet fraud and possible other charges.
I would then contact the Attorney General in Ala. and supply him with all the doc's relative to the case..
I talked to my friend here in La. who has worked for the Attoreny Gen'l office for 15 yrs. as a state fraud investigator, investigating dealers and sellers of cars/car dealers. He says if he were in La. he would have already been arrested if you have the documentation if that happened here. He's the guy that owns the 66 Biscyne that i've mentioned a few time here on RJ.
In case no one took a screen shot of both ads i did and have them saved in my computer. I don't think just because you are 6,000 mi away you should be scammed in this matter. That is if you can produce the reciept for that amount of money and you did post the bank transfer/number.

JMO

Zip.

jake58 12-13-2010 09:01 PM

SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 
OOOOOOOh CRAP... go to your bank ASAP. and you might be able to do a reverse fund transfer,, if the Acct is still open and if they have the money, hurry man ,, hurry,,you will not need the sellers authorization to do this,.. and you can have your bank, pull what info they can from the routing numbers,, but it sounds like you will have to go after, who evers name is on the Acct that you transfered the money to, Also by having the routing numbers, and if you have the Name and address of the bank,,, you can order
stuff off that Acct,, oooh man ,, thats great ,IF the Acct is still open,,
I have already tried that the bank will not return money without acc. holders permission.

jake58 12-13-2010 11:08 PM

SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 
I havnt got a copy of the $1400.00 add that is the add. that he changed the price on, on the12/08/10. I do have the receipt for the $1460.00 wire transfer.

Tod74 12-14-2010 08:24 AM

Re: SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 

Originally Posted by jake58
I havnt got a copy of the $1400.00 add that is the add. that he changed the price on, on the12/08/10. I do have the receipt for the $1460.00 wire transfer.

bottom line even if he is telling the truth(he isn't) that thedeposite was non refundable NOBODY gives a $1460 non refundable deposite on an $1800 item. If it were $100-$200 then maybe his story would hold water but not $1460. :!: :!:

my opinion he is banking onthe fact that because you are in another country you won't be asble to touch him. scumbag.

ccperf721p 12-14-2010 09:11 AM

Neither story really holds water. I don't think it is possible to edit the ad and raise the price, you can only add information not change what is already there. So he couldn't have raised the price on 12-8 as claimed.

The seller has 2 ads for the same item within minutes of each other, the second one having a lower price. Possible mistake, I guess but who knows.

My real question would be how much money was truly sent and what were the conditions. If you give me a deposit and tell me you will have the rest in 2 weeks, then fail to hold up your end of the bargain, you lose plain and simple.

TheRabbit 12-14-2010 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by ccperf721p
Neither story really holds water. I don't think it is possible to edit the ad and raise the price, you can only add information not change what is already there. So he couldn't have raised the price on 12-8 as claimed.

The seller has 2 ads for the same item within minutes of each other, the second one having a lower price. Possible mistake, I guess but who knows.

My real question would be how much money was truly sent and what were the conditions. If you give me a deposit and tell me you will have the rest in 2 weeks, then fail to hold up your end of the bargain, you lose plain and simple.

That's true about changing the add, but I don't see why he would send a deposit to someone for $1,460. And if he did why no contact after that about the balance. I do not want a deposit on anything. You give me your word that you want it it's yours until XX date then we talk again make the deal or not. I'm not so greedy that I'll take somebody's deposit and hope they are a day late and I keep it.

My idea of a sale is not I win you loose. It's a win win for both. I sell something I don't want / need anymore buyer gets something he wants at a fair price that he / she agrees to.

mopar1968 12-14-2010 11:34 AM

Here is a message he just sent me :

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-14 15:07:14
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM

dude u dont even know me does it show he paid me
1460 and owes 400 more hes deposits gone he can do what ever he has to do i got a good lawyer

jake58 12-14-2010 12:18 PM

SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 

Originally Posted by ccperf721p
Neither story really holds water. I don't think it is possible to edit the ad and raise the price, you can only add information not change what is already there. So he couldn't have raised the price on 12-8 as claimed.

The seller has 2 ads for the same item within minutes of each other, the second one having a lower price. Possible mistake, I guess but who knows.

My real question would be how much money was truly sent and what were the conditions. If you give me a deposit and tell me you will have the rest in 2 weeks, then fail to hold up your end of the bargain, you lose plain and simple.

If you call RJ as i did they will confirm that he edited the add.12/08/10

fla1976 12-14-2010 12:34 PM

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mopar1968 12-14-2010 12:49 PM

I think i am pissing him off :

just so u know but it realy is none of ur bussines i have two injections which one was sent and then returned because of name spelled wrong sold the other one this moring both were sent off u must be a old guy because u too nosey but this is just for ur nosey ass the tracking num to jake58 it was set priority mail customs form num is CP415181906US SO STAY OUT OF OTHER FOLKS BUSSINES

BEAST477 12-14-2010 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by ccperf721p
Neither story really holds water. I don't think it is possible to edit the ad and raise the price, you can only add information not change what is already there. So he couldn't have raised the price on 12-8 as claimed.

The seller has 2 ads for the same item within minutes of each other, the second one having a lower price. Possible mistake, I guess but who knows.

My real question would be how much money was truly sent and what were the conditions. If you give me a deposit and tell me you will have the rest in 2 weeks, then fail to hold up your end of the bargain, you lose plain and simple.

If you go back and look in this thread there are links where BerettaGT has two different ads, same parts, two different prices.

BerettaGT 12-14-2010 01:33 PM

RONS TERMINATOR
 
I HAVENT SCAMED ANY BODY I HAD TWO INJECTION SET UPS IV ALREADY SENT TO JAKE58 AND IT WAS RETURNED FOR INCORECTLY SPELLED NAME I JUST GOT BACK HOME LATE LAST NITE CHECKED MAIL AND HAD LETTER FROM POST OFFICE THAT SAID I HAD A RUTURNED PACKAGE SO I RESENT IT TODAY FOR ANYBODY THAT DONT BELEIVE IT IT WAS SET PRIORITY MAIL THE US CUSTOM FORMS NUM CP415181906US SO HERE IT IS TO ALL U HATERS TRACK IT UR SELF[/b]

Incognegro 12-14-2010 02:11 PM

Re: RONS TERMINATOR
 

Originally Posted by BerettaGT
I HAVENT SCAMED ANY BODY I HAD TWO INJECTION SET UPS IV ALREADY SENT TO JAKE58 AND IT WAS RETURNED FOR INCORECTLY SPELLED NAME I JUST GOT BACK HOME LATE LAST NITE CHECKED MAIL AND HAD LETTER FROM POST OFFICE THAT SAID I HAD A RUTURNED PACKAGE SO I RESENT IT TODAY FOR ANYBODY THAT DONT BELEIVE IT IT WAS SET PRIORITY MAIL THE US CUSTOM FORMS NUM CP415181906US SO HERE IT IS TO ALL U HATERS TRACK IT UR SELF[/b]

Your still a scumbag in my book...I hope you slip and fall in a puddle of AIDS.

MEMRACING62 12-14-2010 02:19 PM

Re: RONS TERMINATOR
 

Originally Posted by BerettaGT
I HAVENT SCAMED ANY BODY I HAD TWO INJECTION SET UPS IV ALREADY SENT TO JAKE58 AND IT WAS RETURNED FOR INCORECTLY SPELLED NAME I JUST GOT BACK HOME LATE LAST NITE CHECKED MAIL AND HAD LETTER FROM POST OFFICE THAT SAID I HAD A RUTURNED PACKAGE SO I RESENT IT TODAY FOR ANYBODY THAT DONT BELEIVE IT IT WAS SET PRIORITY MAIL THE US CUSTOM FORMS NUM CP415181906US SO HERE IT IS TO ALL U HATERS TRACK IT UR SELF[/b]

THE BUISNESS OF EVERYBODY HERE IS TO KEEP AN EYE ON SCAMMER SCUM LIKE YOU. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? .....TOUGH CHIT.... :twisted:

jake58 12-14-2010 02:50 PM

SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 
He did call and state that he sent parcel 2 day i just got confirmation from usps that a parcel was sent.

Tod74 12-14-2010 03:07 PM

ok wait a minute. In his messages to both me and to Mark(mopar) he says that the guy paid a deposit ONLY and that he still owed $400 and that it was too late,the deposit was lost.NOW HE says that he already shipped it and it was returned....so which is it? If the guy really does owe him more money as he says,why did he ship it?

BEAST477 12-14-2010 03:08 PM

Re: RONS TERMINATOR
 

Originally Posted by BerettaGT
I HAVENT SCAMED ANY BODY I HAD TWO INJECTION SET UPS IV ALREADY SENT TO JAKE58 AND IT WAS RETURNED FOR INCORECTLY SPELLED NAME I JUST GOT BACK HOME LATE LAST NITE CHECKED MAIL AND HAD LETTER FROM POST OFFICE THAT SAID I HAD A RUTURNED PACKAGE SO I RESENT IT TODAY FOR ANYBODY THAT DONT BELEIVE IT IT WAS SET PRIORITY MAIL THE US CUSTOM FORMS NUM CP415181906US SO HERE IT IS TO ALL U HATERS TRACK IT UR SELF[/b]

That's funny one minute you're keeping his "Deposit". Now all of a sudden you have a tracking #. WOW do you have any more parts for sale? I'd love to do business with you. NOT.

If this is true, why didn't you just say all that in the first place?

jake58 for your sake I hope this is true and it works out. Keep us posted.

THERATTLER 12-14-2010 03:22 PM

complete set up with spares and leak down tester $1450
complete set up with spares and leak down tester $1850
Two completly different stories , PRICELESS :lol:

jake58 12-14-2010 03:26 PM

r
 
THANKYOU guys for your help with this issue i am sure things would have been different without your help. I have bought several items off RJ before with no problems and i have learnt a lesson from this paypal in future.Thanks again and i will keep you posted when i get the parcel.

mopar1968 12-14-2010 04:57 PM

Yep he is pissed : :lol: :lol:

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-14 16:58:11
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM


DO WHAT EVER U LIKE I DONT CARE I DONT HAVE TO SEAL MONEY I HAVE 985000 IN MY ACC WHAT DO U HAVE A WELLFARE CHECK AND JUST SO UR PUNK ASS KNOWS I HAVENT STOLE ANY BODYS MONEY SO FUCK OFF BEFORE I REPORT U

bigray 12-14-2010 05:12 PM

Re: SCAMMER RONS TERMINATOR
 

Originally Posted by jake58
OOOOOOOh CRAP... go to your bank ASAP. and you might be able to do a reverse fund transfer,, if the Acct is still open and if they have the money, hurry man ,, hurry,,you will not need the sellers authorization to do this,.. and you can have your bank, pull what info they can from the routing numbers,, but it sounds like you will have to go after, who evers name is on the Acct that you transfered the money to, Also by having the routing numbers, and if you have the Name and address of the bank,,, you can order
stuff off that Acct,, oooh man ,, thats great ,IF the Acct is still open,,
I have already tried that the bank will not return money without acc. holders permission.

WELL CRAP.. JUST A SHOT,, SORRY,

Tod74 12-14-2010 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by mopar1968
Yep he is pissed : :lol: :lol:

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-14 16:58:11
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM


DO WHAT EVER U LIKE I DONT CARE I DONT HAVE TO SEAL MONEY I HAVE 985000 IN MY ACC WHAT DO U HAVE A WELLFARE CHECK AND JUST SO UR PUNK ASS KNOWS I HAVENT STOLE ANY BODYS MONEY SO f OFF BEFORE I REPORT U

Hey Mark,I hate to ask this but....can you send me some of that cheese? Welfare cheese is just about the best cheese there is.

mopar1968 12-14-2010 05:30 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol: Another PM ::

From: BerettaGT
To: mopar1968
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:40 pm
Subject: MOPAR1968
UR NOT PISSING ME OFF UR MAKING AN ASS OUT OF UR SELF U HAVE NO CLUE WHATS GOING ON SO STAY OUT OF IT YOUR JUST A BITCH ASS HATER THAT HAS NOTHING ELSE TO DO BUT WAIT ON A WELLFARE CHECK AND HARASS PEOPLE YOUR THE THEIF STEALING FORM THE GOVERMENT

MEMRACING62 12-14-2010 05:32 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :!: :!: WHOS THE PUNK ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

dragonmaster093 12-14-2010 05:34 PM

well hell with all that money we can make a big donation to rj and each of us on his dime what you guys think lol

mopar1968 12-14-2010 05:35 PM

This dude has to be kin to ''Littlerod'' look at the spelling :!: :lol: :lol:

MEMRACING62 12-14-2010 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by mopar1968
This dude has to be kin to ''Littlerod'' look at the spelling :!: :lol: :lol:

DAMN...TREED ! :lol:

dragonmaster093 12-14-2010 05:37 PM

mem with all the treeing you get must have a bucket truck on call lol


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