Well, I am glad I could provide a little entertainment for all tonight, hope we made it worth while... kinda fun wasn't it...?
I'll see ya all back here tomorrow and we can do it all over again... sweet dreams.

Next.

Scorp

LMAO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

With the money she makes sure she can be my master i won't complain :!: :!:




''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

daym (shaking my head) at entire thread.......lol ?

where the heck have you been? :lol:

Chris you got to hang around later you missed all the fun :!: :!:




''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

I know, I missed all the fun but it was the season finale of Dexter and Californication and by the time they were over this old man was out cold!! :lol:

i been in the Shadows..been doing more observing lately then participating.....
you Guys handle this on your own Pretty Good.. :D

i will say One thing and i will go back into the shadows.

My best Friend Quit school in the 8th grade (late 60's)..writes his name like a 2nd grader....he's worth about 35 million...takes in about 125 thousand A MONTH ( Yes i said a month) in rental property. another 20k a month in a Huge Body shop he opened up 35 years ago..mostly insurance work ( he doesn't run it) just collects the money once a week.
his toughest decision each day is what time he wants to get out of bed and what Hot-rod of his he wants to work on that day...or what new Toy he wants to Buy..

got more Hot rods then most can imagine,made exclusive magazine covers ( Hot-rod,deluxe,Hot-truck, etc......you name it)..

By education standards he would be classified an Idiot....but i will Guarantee ain't No-One on this site that can Out Horse trade him or touch more stuff that turns to gold as he does.......I will stake my NAME on that...thats how sure i am of My man with the 8th grade education !!!!

Imo...Formal education is nothing more then a Indicator that you have the ability to learn in a Formal controlled setting...it has no bearing about the real World..

Greed with Lack of GOOD COMMON BUSINESS SENSE is the Main Culprit why many people get ripped off.....Far from lack of Formal Education.......( my 2 cents).

ok i am Gone...later Guys Have Fun.... 8) :lol:

well come back when you can stay longer... :lol:

BINGO bjuice... at least you get my point... :wink:

Jimbo,
Re direction doesn't work here. Below is what you said AND MEANT. Everyone here now knows of your infinite wisdom and superior intelligence, not to mention your wordly ways, we will try to do better for you. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Nice try- lol.

What you said was the exact opposite of Bjuice.

Based on your vast experience Bjuice's friend is more likely to be scammed due to his education.

Good try though.

Forum users just read his original posts not his follow-up comments which contain more mis-direction than a game of three card Monte.

Scorp

Jimbo,
You might be smarter than me, but you aren't smarter than US collectively.

Guys, I am not trying to pretend to be smarter than anyone on here, becaue I am nowhere near that... singely or collectively... I am just a dumbazz flunkie from the school of hard knocks, who has a sick sense of humor.

Have any of you ever heard of antonym, litotes, or Janus words...?
Just for fun, check them out in the dictionary...

I am not trying to dazzle you with brilliance or baffle you with bullshyt, I guess I just under-estimated that you guys would take such satirical ridicule so seriously... then when it got really fun I kept egging you on... and it worked...

A very astute philosopher once proclaimed... "Never argue with an idiot, as the spectators may have a hard time identifying which one is the real idiot..."

So, I played along, and you guys followed up just as expected, and we ALL looked like idiots...! But, I can laugh at the fun we had, because if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at...? Seriously?

So, if you still want to call me an idiot or smartazz or any other fun names... whatever... I still like you guys anyway...

And yes, I will probably say more stupid things along the way that will make you freak out and jump all over me again... but hey, what are friends for, huh?

So, here I am still, and will keep coming back here to check things out, so don't think you will run me off crying to my room so easily just because you called me a bunch of childish things... I understand we all had fun, and I even kind of enjoyed the challenge. Lets do it again sometime...

Jim

just wanted to show you Guys his 34 Plymouth..392 hemi 6 deuces...he built it from scratch...

the reason this one is special to me is that i rode with Him to Columbus Ohio back a few years ago to the Good Guys show...over 13,000 cars there and he won best of his class and i was there when HOT ROD MAGAZINE Signed him to an exclusive photo shoot (out of 13,000 cars) we had not been there 2 hours..


http://www.rodandcustommagazine.com/.../photo_05.html

Here is another favorite of Mine...59 Studebaker..has won the Good guy show's several times....made the cover...also several Magazines

all this stuff is Buillt from scratch...he does it all......

http://www.classictrucks.com/feature...uck/index.html

Brian that is nice slick ride, I would give my left-- Sorry this is a family forum but you get the message and it's a mopar with Mopar power :!: :!:



''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

bjuice, thanks for sharing those with us..................bad assss rides!!!

Re: The wolfpack is going overboard now.
 

Just wanted to bring this back to the top. It got way off subject. I think its an issue that needs dealt with.I know people that have been scammed on RJ and would like to warn others but refuse to post on here because they dont have the time to deal with the peolpe that use this forum as a form of negative entertainment. You know who you are.Your like a pack of hungry wolfs waiting to be thrown a bone. And then you want to see who can get the biggest piece.(Who can top the other ones post)Do you really believe that this helps. All you do is make people mad, and run them off. Or they dont even post at all,for fear of being bashed for one reason or another. Then the scammer lives to scam another day. Ive even seen positve post on here answered with negative comments. I dont believe this helps anyone. I respect what this forum is suppose to be for. However I dont approve of some of the tactics (If thats what you believe it is) that are used. I think if you would try to handle things in a more positive way, you would get better results. Not only that, more people would come on here and post, because they would feel welcome, as the original poster stated. And if more people post more scammers are caught. JMO

Definitions of forum on the Web:

a public meeting or assembly for open discussion

Re: The wolfpack is going overboard now.
 

Does that mean we have to quit waterboarding :?: :!: :!:

Re: The wolfpack is going overboard now.
 

(QUOTE) nvmyvettes ---

Just wanted to bring this back to the top. It got way off subject. I think its an issue that needs dealt with.I know people that have been scammed on RJ and would like to warn others but refuse to post on here because they dont have the time to deal with the peolpe that use this forum as a form of negative entertainment. You know who you are.Your like a pack of hungry wolfs waiting to be thrown a bone. And then you want to see who can get the biggest piece.(Who can top the other ones post)Do you really believe that this helps. All you do is make people mad, and run them off. Or they dont even post at all,for fear of being bashed for one reason or another. Then the scammer lives to scam another day. Ive even seen positve post on here answered with negative comments. I dont believe this helps anyone. I respect what this forum is suppose to be for. However I dont approve of some of the tactics (If thats what you believe it is) that are used. I think if you would try to handle things in a more positive way, you would get better results. Not only that, more people would come on here and post, because they would feel welcome, as the original poster stated. And if more people post more scammers are caught. JMO

Definitions of forum on the Web:

a public meeting or assembly for open discussion[/quote]

As a former iver been scammed person, I say they need to be drawn out. You usually dont get results from these thiefs until you get them angry and screaming mad. Sure there is a lot of finger pointing in all directions on some of these, and it gets a little too hot too quick. But it is a nessacary evil to get to the truth. Sometimes it back fires on the original poster. My opinion they should do jail time for pre meditated theft. Its no different then robbing someone in person, its just a cowards version of it. Until you have walked in my shoes and been taken to the cleaners, please dont say they do not deserve what they have coming. I know the guy who took me I would not wizz on him if he were on fire. Sorry I am an eye for an eye kinda guy. It seems the legal justice system does not work these days. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Well i was taken also and that is why i am so harsh at times, I have fun here also but on the flip side i know what it feel's like, So untill i am removed from here or told by Mod's to quit being harsh and trying like so many others to get to the truth i will continue. We all know not only are they scammers but they are also lier's and sometimes it takes different tactics to get to the truth :!: :!:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

Re: The wolfpack is going overboard now.
 

Re: The wolfpack is going overboard now.
 

I dig where you are coming from, now here is my thought on it.

Unless of course you are a scammer, I personally would NEVER hold back information that might help a guy out that was scammed............ doesn't matter what he said or wrote or whether I agreed or disagreed with their opinion. That to me is a form of tolerating a scammer.............................
I do not believe anyone in this forum would be tolerant to anyones scamming for any reason. I hope the folks holding back info rethink it, it really would be wrong let someone be a scammer.

I do believe at times we can be very harsh AND critical of the person claiming they were scammed. Usually happens when the complaint is nor verified with ad #, phone numbers, emails, etc. It has been proven to be effective at times, once a man starts lying he usually trips himself up (littlehotrod), angering someone is the best way to get them out of their game! All liars eventually get caught!

So if there are folks out there needing to make their plight public, please do it now. Be sure to include your pertinent information!

Re: The wolfpack is going overboard now.
 

Man, I still stand on what I said. You should take other peoples opinion into concideration when posting. Look at the people who read this forum verses the people who post replies. Why is that? Could the reason be the fear of being critized for thier views? Called dumbazz, ediots etc.... I dont condone scamming in any form. But i do understand why someone would not want to get involved with any issues in this forum.Its funny you mention Littlehotrod. Thats a great example. It went from one guy, to his whole family, to the whole state of Miss and Tenn. I aggree some of it was self inflicked, because of the 15 y.o. nephew trying to defend his uncle. But you tell me how anything in that part of that deal help Mud get his $$$ back. Just a bunch of useless flaming. And If I were from that area I would have steered clear of that whole mess even if I thought I could help.
I guess what Im saying is everybody is not the enemy.I try to keep an open mind. Hell call me an ediot, but I think Littlehotrod will do the right thing. EVENTUALLY.LOL. And I dont think all the flaming is what will get it done.I think the family will. The rest was wasted energy that could have been used to help others.

ALL SCAMMERS SUCK ------ALL SCAMMERS SUCK AND IF YOU PROTECT THEM ????? WHAT ELSE CAN WE SAY!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: - LIVELY[ IN THE WARM STATE OF OKLAHOMA[FOR A LIITLE WHILE :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ]

You are wrong
 

As a person who got slammed and called everything in the book to begin with, I truly would not want it any other way. It got me pi$$ed and I said some things that I should have sat back and pondered for a little while. It also gave my scammer a warm fuzzy feeling and he just started typing all kinds of sh!t. He basically over the period of a few days buried himself and it was because of the forum BANTER going back and forth, people from all sides asking questions to get to the truth. Sometimes it was not nice, but it was a path to the truth, so oh well. Lucky for me I also had pics I sent to them. My deal is a whole lot like littledickrods. I dealt with the dad but the son was the posting idiot. They have several user names and none are even remotly close to each other. He is a total POS and his dad is an even bigger POS. They are common thieves and still use this site. He finally admitted to everything but has yet to make an honor payment even though he sold my stuff on here. Bottom line is while you want to try the nice approach, it never works and usually prolongs the issue. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you can't back up your mouth, don't post crap about someone. Honest people will stick it out and speak up and losers will wither away. This is business and should be conducted as such. There is no room for thiefs here.

Re: You are wrong
 

Same deal as Blownalky3 for me on another site- identified the scammer, had multiple complaints against him and yet the regulars attacked me on the forum like sharks- or maybe a bit like a Master Sergeant in bootcamp.

They were tough but it was that which validated the truth- And toughened me up a bit in the ways of online forums.

So the regulars on the forum can be tough AND THEY SHOULD BE. They are giving their free time to try and help others.

I cant tell you how many initial posts have been crap- take a look at the Chitown409 or Chitownmotors post- This was the scammer trying to turn the tables with their first post- a "poisoning the well" tactic that didnt work.

If someone is legit then they should post. If they are telling the truth then it will come out.

This forum gets results. Blown I agree with you 100%.

Scorp

Thanks blown, that is what I was trying to say myself!

'vettes, how about asking the folks you know to come in here and voice their thoughts on why they won't post. I find it difficult to believe folks won't complain about being ripped off because they are afraid of being "bullied" a little bit, ESPECIALLY if they have proof. If the tactics used piss them off and they leave, then it is pretty likely they didn't want the help of the forum.

I seriously doubt the tactics used (yes, I do call them tactics) will change at all in here, it seems to be very effective in doing damage to the scammer.

I do know what you are saying though, the INITIAL contact with the poster w/o any info. could be a bit more subtle. On the other hand, since they know how to post in the forum, they likely have already read it several times:
Ad #, phone number, pictures, etc.
They should already know to post that info with their original 1st post of any thread they start, having to ask for that info gets a bit old after awhile.

BTW, yes I have been screwed nice and deep by traderguy out of Kentucky. Stole my damn nice JD 790 4wd tractor for a '71 Vega show car!! He lied about the entire car, was a lesson well learned though! God as my witness I won't be stabbed in the ass like that again!

BTW, Keith you still suck and have not been forgotten!

I to was screwed over by a guy that said the car was one thing and it turned out to be another, lesson learned! It was my very first trade and I was excited, probably to excited to step back and give everything a proper looking over so I blame myself just as much as the jerkoff who lied to me. yes, sometime our replies are harsh, especially on the lack of information by a first poster. If the person would read through the forum, we always ask for the same thing, ad#, name, specific details, etc...
In blownalky3's case with the heads, he sent me pics so I could post them on the forum since he did not know how to do it. Yes, he got ragged on on the beginning but the truth did come out in the end and I made a new forum buddy that I hope I can visit in Vegas someday and taste Pauls righteous cooking!

It was my first trade as well, like a retard I did it without actually seeing it in person, pictures only. It was also my first and last time trading like that. I claim half the blame for being such a sucker!

FIRST, IN NO WAY DO I PROTECT,CONDONE, SUPPORT,REAL SCAMMERS.
BUT THANKS LIVLEY FOR HELPING ME PRESENT MY CASE.YOUR POST IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.YOU TOOK SOMETHING THAT WAS POSTED, TOOK IT OUT CONTEXT, AND TRIED TURNING IT AROUND SO YOU COULD POST A SMARTAZZ COMMENT.

ALL I AM SAYING IS THERE MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY THAT WILL GET A MORE FAVORED RESULT ON SOME ISSUES. IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE A CONTEST ON WHO CAN BE THE BIGGEST AZZHOLE TO THE NEW GUY OR THE GUY THATS NOT SEEKING HELP,JUST WARNING OTHERS.OR ANYONE POSTING ON HERE AS FAR AS THAT GOES THATS NOT A REAL SCAMMER. THIS IS THE SCAMMER SECTION RIGHT? I WOULD THINK THAT ALL ENERGY WASTED ON SEEING WHO COULD BE THE BIGGEST SMARTAZZ, WOULD BE BETTER SEVERED ON THE REAL SCAMMERS.

(The term "Internet fraud" generally refers to any type of fraud scheme that uses one or more online services to present fraudulent solicitations to prospective victims, to conduct fraudulent transactions, or to transmit the proceeds of fraud to financial institutions or to others connected with the scheme. Internet fraud can take place on computer programs such as chat rooms, e-mail, message boards, or Web sites)

thats just Lively, those of us that know him don't see that as a threat at all, those that don't will learn pretty fast, I hope... :D

Yeah lively can't see so he uses BOLD print. :lol:

Well NV all caps is considered shouting on the Internet- so are you shouting at Forum users? And if so are you really any better then those you choose to indict?

And this my friend is directly in context.

Scorp

Scorp No its not ment as shouting. I read in another post about Livley's eye sight and since the post was directed at him and his comment, I wanted to make easier for him to read.

ask thecurti what he thinks of our tactics , it took 3 months and alot of pressure and a whole hellava lot investigative work on everybodys part , but the end result was , the man got his money back and the dude went to jail..that was the goal and it was accomplished ,,in the end , the only person with his feelings hurt was mike2124..

heres another thread

http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=10186

guy was left hanging for 6 months, moved it back to the top, I sent the supposed offender an email and it turned out it was his brother using his account, the brother ended up paying the guy since the cause of the problem was now serving time.

We really can help if we can get all the info needed and not give up on the cause...