HERE IS YOUR EMAIL PROVING WHAT YOU ASKED FOR THE HELMET



From: David Holland
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:32:56 -0700 (PDT)
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 81 Z28 Camaro Drag/street car. Will trade - $13000 (dinwiddie)
yeah i got the battery disconnect and the box for you...my bottle is in the race trailer and the trailer its in is loaned out and in maryland...as far the seats go i do have the seats but i wasnt going to let them go with the car....i have someone interested in them for $350 new seats and brackets if you want them too i can give them to you for the $350 and the $200 for the helmlet total $550....i got new tires on the front and got to drive the car a little but its breaking up at high rpm...tune issue hopefully....seems to run decent...if you want the seats then let me know so i can make sure to get them before you get here....do you know if the crank is an eagle steel crank or forged?

if they will lie about something simple like the helmet, it speaks for itself

I have no problem with him buying the car back for the original asking price... this is what I posted about the camaro... """"The new owner of this car aquired it through a trade where he also said things about the other car that were just not true OK so do you see that "" he said things about the car that were not true"" did I say the parts he listed were not correct??? NO I said he said things about the car that were not true. The car was leaking fluids from all over and had a horrible miss firing problem... As for what he said the car should run according to a Performance Mechanic the car will not run 10's on motor... As I have already posted the car will be dynoed tomarrow (today) the 11th... MR Tony you are more than welcome to buy the car back for the original price. the trailer was not his it was our trailer and has been for a while now... got the title to prove it... (my complaint was about his lies on the Mustang and yes he has corrected it now and I am glad. It would not be fare for someone to buy something thinking it was something else.) oh and I also see where you posted the email stating the seats were not included in the deal except for an additional 350 plus 200 for the helmet!!

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it says right in the email you posted i sent you thats the seats were not part of the deal and i would sell them to you....ok i couldnt remember about the helmlet...so if you ar that proud of your deal then give me back my cars and the 900 dollars i spent to fix the camaro and we can be done....pretty simple dont you think? or are you not feeling it....it makes no never mind...i dont think you build the camaro but then again with all the leaks the car had and the retarded hei on a performance motor that you didnt lock out to make it work correctly....as far the 91 goes i saw the world class go in and i know there was a brand new clutch set that went in too....come call rocket a liar.....again all you gotta do is just give me back my cars and you take yours or leave it alone...i told her to leave it alone too...what is done is done....

OK varepoman or shortcake. Did he make up that email also??


:oops: Once again, I type to slow. I am going to stop posting and just read.

stay tuned
 

stay tuned for tomorrow nights show of WHAT WILL THE DYNO HP BE FOR THE 81 CAMARO.....its all good...have a good night...later. and again if you are any kind of man then come call her these names face to face and see where it gets you...be a man not a child and immature person with the name calling.

I dont want the car.... you said it didnt have things on it that i said was..... WHAT ISNT ON IT???????????????? FIND SOMETHING THAT ISNT AND I WILL BUY THE CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that email about the seats are in response to me asking where my seats were... i have that email too.....

''SHORTCAKE'' answer pm please :!: :!:

here is the post where i asked where the seats were


From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 81 Z28 Camaro Drag/street car. Will trade - $13000 (dinwiddie)
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 9:58 PM

hey man, i was thinking i could ride out in the morning and give you your $200 dollars for the helmet and get the bottle and other parts. I forgot to ask before you left last night, thought there were a set of red and black racing seats that you hadnt had a chance to put in because you needed to fab a set of brackets? anyhow, let me know about tomorrow and the seats. like to come out around lunch time if possible...

tony

Re: stay tuned
 

come on to my house. you know where i live chump. hell you came to my house twice. once to come look at the car and then again 2 hours later to make the trade.....


still want to know what isnt on the camaro that i said was on it? we are waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

here is the private message she sent me showing she said the camaro was missing parts... just like in her first post here

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you have to sell the mustang to get a boat how would you buy the car back? prove the car has a eagle crank in it? i can prove everything in my car cause i only used one mechanic for the whole time i owned the car...you got the cammaro in one of your trade deals and it was built by someone else...again the email you wrote said i mentioned the seats well i did that they would be sold to you and not in the deal...in the previous one i sent you not the one you wrote...you really contradict yourself alot dont you tony...again whats done is done...i am not sweating it i spent the money to fix it now we will see what it will do on the dyno tomorrow...we are thinking maybe 425 to 450 tops in hp....

From: shortcake To: tonylittell Date: 2009-09-10 20:25:59
Subject: 89 Mustang foxbody LX 5.0 street/strip car
Re: Ad #1646797 - 89 Mustang foxbody LX 5.0 street/strip car
Tony,
I can not for the life of me understand why you would post such an add about this car knowing that you are not telling the truth about it. Your add is a complete lie and I have the proof that it is. I have already reported you to racingjunk.com and I have also let them know that this is not the first time you said a car was something it wasn't. I have your adds from the mustang and the camaro you sold stating the cars have items that are not on them as well stating the cars run something they do not or have never ran. You presented your self as an honest person and that has been proven incorrect as well. You got the mustang along with copies of records stating everything about this car. We built this car from the ground up and you are telling flat out lies on this car as you did with the camaro. It is not a 306 engine and it has never ran the times you stated along with several other items you state the car has that just are not true. I just wanted to let you know that I have reported you and will continue to report you until you decide to post a true add...

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the build sheet you have from randalls racing in chester shows you exactly whats in the motor.
eagle crank, eagle 6 inch h beams and kb 128 pistons.
also shows that the ptv clearance with the cam on the intake was 190 thousanths and it was 250 thousanths on the exhaust side.... also has the specs of the new bullet racing cam thats in there....as well as the bore size of all the cylinders with number 3 cylinder being a hair bigger than the rest... it was all plain as day on BOTH BUILD SHEETS


since the converter isnt a lockup convertor i dont know what it will dyno on a chassis dyno.... but it will be in the 550 to 590 range on an engine dyno
just like i stated



next?

as for why im selling the car? i dont need 2 fox bodies and i dont have room. i will pull my savings to buy the car if it doesnt have what i stated..... thell us what isnt on the car that i stated fella

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The dispute on the price of the Helmet shows you, "varepoman", were wrong about your memory of the price.
What else might you be a "little wrong" about ? Just need TRUE FACTS HERE !!!!!

Re: no
 

exactly.... i hope this and any other thread trashing me will be deleted since the truth has been slowly coming to surface and showing who the real liars are

What is the dyno going to tell us about the truth in this matter, i have read over and over about the dyno test tomorrow :? :? The real truth is coming out, some of us has a strong feeling who is right and who is wrong :!: :!:



''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

First off sorry if you misunderstood I was talking about the mustang not having the parts listed on your add and the camaro was not what you said it was and would not run what you said it should. This was a email sent to you and not posted in the forum. I have had nothing to hide and I have not stated in this forum that the camaro did not have the parts you said it did. If I confused you then sorry

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i never said anything about what wasnt on the camaro it was refered to about my mustang ....and i never once told you it was a 306 and you cant show that anywhere ....regardless of anyone who thinks who is right or wrong all she was doing was informing the public that the mustang was not a 306 and you were misleading them and it was not by my doing...i made the trade in good faith as you did...you definitely got the better deal...live and learn. be a man and just move the fuck on....if you got a problem with it and want to call names like a second grader then go ahead...if you want to meet we can, whatever the case may be whats done is done...i will find out what the car will do hp wise tomorrow if its not over 500hp like you claimed oh welll...if it is then i will be the first to say i apologize....again she was correcting on the displacement of the mustang.....good luck on your sale or trade or what ever you are up to...

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oh yeah i do have the battery box and the push/pull cutoff and bottle for you...you are more then welcome to contact me and come down and get it whenever you want....its sitting in a corner i lost your number and email till we saw the ad for the stang...anyway its here and you are welcome to it...

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again i am telling you on a chassis dyno and with a NON-lockup convertorit wont dyno good. all of us know that.... i said the engine should be 550+ hp..... and it should be not 500. but not with a non lock up vertor and not on a chassis dyno....

but you got exactly what i said the car was and to say anything otherwise is just a plain lie.

and to be truthfull i didnt get the better end of things. i dont have a fresh 306 in the 89. i dont have my seats, i dont have a push pull, dont have a battery relocate, dont have a compucar nitrous bottle and i dont have a new clutch and worldclass 5 speed (but i do have a regular t5 that grinds going into reverse and leaks fluids). and well i do have the new clutch cause i put it in last week

And i gave up a camaro that just needed to be finished up like i stated from the begining that there is a good 20k tied into it


i got the raw end of it. but didnt complain like your girl and you did


have a nice life dude

Re: parts
 

you can mail it to

John Littell
26971 greenhead drive
petersburg va 23805

send me your address and ill send the helmet or the money. i dont care. but im not driving 240 miles round trip to get the stuff...

you can even send it cod if you want.

I am asking any moderator that has seen this and read it to delete this post as im not the scammer i was made out to be.....



again to ALL i am sorry for the name calling it was in appropriate and i am sorry..... I take being called a scammer serious and said alot of thing i shouldnt have

Apology accepted

x2--- Now to the subject at hand, ''Shortcake '' has pm'ed me and stated that the car does have everything ''Tony'' said it had, If it does in fact have everything he ''Tony'' said it had, call me stupid but what is the conflict here, someone unhappy with the deal? Dyno or no Dyno, doesn't matter as long as the car has what he stated it had, if so then in my book that makes him a honest seller!!! As far as buying it back, he ''Tony'' has stated that he would, and other party refused the offer, case closed in my book, people needs to move on :!: :!:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

WOW, I should not have gone to bed early and missed all the exitement! Sucks getting old and your "sleepy peepers" clock start kickin in about 8pm... :roll:

yes you did. I missed a lot too. I left for a whole 30 mins and it went from two pages to four.

Yeah the so called ''Wolfpack'' came out :!: :!: I have been Pm'ed to death since last night :!: :!:



''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

Oh I know what that feels like. I was tryign to read this thread and answer bout 4 diff peoples pm's at the same time. That was hard to do.

I'm curious, where are the dyno results :?:

So am i, whatever it has to do with this thread :!: :!:



''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

He did stat that he would have the dyno results yesterday didnt he? Hmmmm I wonder if he found out that it does do what the guy said it would?

Yea, im sure it did. What dart 230 runner headed 408 sbc with a 284 duration and 645 lift solid roller cam and 12 to 1 comp wouldnt make that kind of power? I thought 550 to 590 was being conservitive. i would think it would be more in line of 620s myself. the aed 750 ho modified carb might not give it enough gas to get there though.....

I don't think a 750 will cut it on that engine :!: :!: But i have a feeling we will never know :!: :!:



''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

it is the ho modified and it runs the same jets the 950 hp they sell has. flows good, but i dont think it will make the power its capable of with that carb.
Thats why i told him i thought 550 plus

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I have to agree with that "hahahaha" if the only gripe was the 302 vs 306. UNLESS it is a matter of the 302 having a million miles on it and the 306 being fresh or something like that...but 4 ci ... :roll:

I had a 750 ho holley when my engine was dynoed and wasn't near enough carb, went to a 950, they had to jet to 4 times to get the results they wanted :!: :!: :lol: :lol:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

wow! alot of motor

wtf IS with the quotes from MOPAR about the cage and it running 11.99?

Who is that guy that said the thing ran 11.99?

He is some jockstrap rider of the chick that started this thread and her boyfriend

He made that quote inside of a quote that mopar made.....I posted it and then replied....didn't realize I left mopars name in there