Keeping the lien undissolved with the state keeps the car legally bound here. I figured if wayne went home with the car and didn't send me what he agreed to, I had a legal avenue to persue him with. YES--It was a means to hold over his head! Wouldn't you want some sort of pull if a guy owed you a grand? It doesn't really matter as far as the police go though--at least not until he's taken to court. They will not go and force him to turn a car over even though I've got a legal title in my name. I'd have to take him to court first. I have the lien release--how many times do I have to say that. It's signed and filled out by the bank. All the guy needs is this title and bank lien release to get his clean and clear title. My guess is he doesn't want to pay the taxes on the car. He wouldn't have cared about the title if I wouldn't have come on here calling him on the carpet way back in the beggining about falsely advertising the car. I'll send this stuff to BJUICE--I already said that. I haven't seen any response from him either though if he's willing to do this.

Firebird: The Title/Lien story really kinda stinks... I know you think we are all a bunch of "red necks", but most of us are just not that stupid. You want everyone here to believe that you paid off the car & "by your request" & told the bank to keep the lien/bank on the title??? First of all, a branch bank typically does not actually CARRY the title in the bank!!! Second, when a vechile is paid off, the corparate bank hq sends the title to the DMV to be properly transfered/remove lien for the rightful owner. Last, why the hell would a bank want them selves as a lein holder on a title if it was properly paid for????? If i am a bank, I am not interested in confusion & liability down the road.... banks are the king of policy & proceedure too. You story really SUX. Hey, If I am wrong, you can still kiss my A$$ anyways b/c you have a crap attuitude.

X2 SOUNDS LIKE %100 B/S TO ME. :roll:

Give him Scooter, with his attitude who cares what the hell happens!!!

Hemi/Harb:

I could be wrong... as I certainly have been wrong before. But this story simply does not add up. I don't think he ever had any intention of solving this... or there would have been a picture of this dubious title in the first place. I have gone through title/liens before.... that is NOT how it works in my state. WTH???

What do I know??? I am just a red-neck. If I was as smart as firebird, I could control my bank & tell them to deed assets at my request. I could say: "Just give me the title, don't change it" "Even though I paid it off, I want it to look like I owe & have a lien against it still" Yeah... that's how you do it. Work to pay it off to show you don't own it. That is one bright idea.

I GUESS THIS IS A SPECIAL BANK THAT WILL ENGAGE IN FRAUD FOR CUSTOMERS!! :shock:

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I firmly believe he was just trying to B/S Wayne into thinking he had more control than he actually does. Wayne does have a bill of sale!!!!!! That in itself could be legally binding, given that neither can prove for a fact their story. He could probably get a title just with that alone and say firebird said there was no title but he has a bill of sale. I believe he MIGHT have the lein release, but wants others to think the bank still controls it. That is not exactly how big business operates. I am sure they signed over the lein paper and he is just trying to have all believe the story. Fact is, if they signed it over, it is already a matter of record dated the day the loan was paid off. He is a Richard who thiks he is smarter than everyone else. From where I'm sittin, I say he should take the $500 before he can't get that. And Wayne should be a man and pay up. Neither one has posted in good faith to date continuing to stir the sh&%$#@T. They are both the problem.

Like I said----you are obviously a red neck idiot! And you can kiss my a$$ loser! You don't know the first thing about me-my bank or the dealings I have with my bank---so drive whatever junk pile you own right up your a$$. You are what sux here!! I give a flying f--k what you think is true and what isn't. Obviously not everyone on here is a red neck idiot, but there's a few of you that make up for all the rest. So go pi$$ up a rope and drown yourself sh-t for brains!! Topics over from end period! This is the last post I'll make on this thread---and the last time I'll ever give a crap about warning people of a shaddy buyer/seller--go back and read my very first post dip sh-ts!

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Good riddance. While you are no longer on the site, maybe you could brush up on your English grammar and vocabulary!! :idea:

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