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DirkaDirka 08-31-2009 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by DrivingMissDD

Dirk,
What brand/s are used over there in the sandbox ?


Do you really want to know??

TheYellaBrick 09-01-2009 06:50 AM

Yes, this is a serious inquiry into the maintenance and repair challenges you guys and gals are facing over there. It'd be very educational and of great interest to all of us stateside gearheads.

I was a 63B20 in Vietnam(wheeled vehicle mechanic) and we had everything from talcum powder red dust to the stickiest, slickest red mud known to man.

DirkaDirka 09-01-2009 06:55 AM

OK cant say I didnt warn ya........

I was a 63b my second deployment in 05-06. We used Fram oil filters when we did the servicing on the huummers. The big equipments also had Fram. Now If we didnt have any Fram oil filters we had ones that were all white. They didnt have a name on them so I cant tell you what they were. They also came in plain brown boxes, except the Fram.

TheYellaBrick 09-01-2009 07:08 AM


What is the longest that you go between oil/filter changes ?

DirkaDirka 09-01-2009 08:08 AM

Since we had I believe 100+ vehicles we would try to get them changed every 3000 miles but in 1 year that was kinda hard to do with so many vehicles. So it might be only once in that year time frame.

TheYellaBrick 09-01-2009 08:11 AM

You ever cut 'em apart and examine the filtering material after 3,000 miles/1 year ? If so, what'd you find ?

DirkaDirka 09-01-2009 08:14 AM

There was a few that we had to rip apart just to get them off the engine. We found that they were still all together for the most part. Dont know if what was torn apart was from us or was there before we had to rip it apart.

cepx111 09-01-2009 10:28 PM

Leave it to the miltary to buy the cheapest crap they can get there hands on.
I'll try to have faith though, maybe the plain white jane filters were WIX.

I think for the most part a everyday run if the mil street engine probably wouldn't be hurt by a fram but when you run a HV pump zing it up to 6500+ RPMS and use thick 20W50 oil is when it becomes a problem, their media cant handle that kinda flow and pressure and breaks down.
Not to mention their anti drain back valve never works, thats why you hear them rods clatter when you first fire the motor up till the filter fills back up with oil, a good oil filter like a wix or a pure one wont do that .

JMO>Cp

oldandtired 09-02-2009 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by cepx111
Leave it to the miltary to buy the cheapest crap they can get there hands on.

JMO>Cp

But, I bet the taxpayers paid a premium price for them! I have seen this too many times. Dave

TheRabbit 09-02-2009 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by cepx111
Leave it to the miltary to buy the cheapest crap they can get there hands on.
I'll try to have faith though, maybe the plain white jane filters were WIX.

I think for the most part a everyday run if the mil street engine probably wouldn't be hurt by a fram but when you run a HV pump zing it up to 6500+ RPMS and use thick 20W50 oil is when it becomes a problem, their media cant handle that kinda flow and pressure and breaks down.
Not to mention their anti drain back valve never works, thats why you hear them rods clatter when you first fire the motor up till the filter fills back up with oil, a good oil filter like a wix or a pure one wont do that .

JMO>Cp

That's not the case with Fram. My 94 Chevy ( 350) with only 70k miles was bone stock when the Fram filter collasped.


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