Be very careful buying from Mike Watt(lisamike1070)!!!!!

[firebird89]

Well, hate to do this but this guy left me with no choice. His name is Mike Watt and is from out of Corydon, Indiana. He usually has some descent looking t/k drag cars listed for sale on here. He contacted me a few months back on a ad I had posted looking for a glide shifter. I took a chance--never saw a pic of the shifter but I sent him the $ anyway, The shifter showed up packaged on the very light side--as in just thrown in a box and sent. When I sell stuff, it's wrapped tight and I make sure it's getting there just as I sent it. None the less, it wasn't damaged and it was a nice shifter. So it was a fair deal. Mike contacted me again regarding another ad I had posted--wanting to trade a VERY nice Bigs 850 carb for a nice 1050. My deleted ad # is 182111790 if you care to see how nice the carb was I traded off. Not only did I trade that carb off, mike wanted $250 to boot. So I pulled the big BG Enduro fuel pump out of my Camaro and gave that to him for the $250. He got close up pics of my stuff before hand. I of course got a pic of this dominator from about 20' away. My fault for not insisting on a close up. But then again, it's obvious this turd has been sitting on the shelf for quite a while also. Covered in mouse crap and all!!!! This thing is full of corrosion and looks like it's been at the bottom of a lake for a year. Plus the vent tubes were bent over from shipping. All he did was pull the carb out I sent and throw this one in the same box(which is no big deal), however he obviously didn't pack it. Rather just tossed it in the box. I emailed him immediately and told him how unhappy I am with this deal. All he had to say is I'm judging it by looks and that it works great. I told him I did this deal for my Dad to help him get a dominator for his car and that I was completely embarrassed to even show him this pile. I also said I needed to head South in a few weeks, so I could just return his carb and get my stuff back so he didn't have to deal with shipping. That's a 9 1/2 hour ride one way for me, but honestly--I just wanted to get my Dads 850 back without it getting broken in shipping if he had agreed to send it back. However, he will not even respond to my emails now of course. It's pathetic that people have to take advantage of others trust. Let that be a lesson to me and I wanted to let everyone know how Mike Watt of Corydon, Indiana does business. VERY BADLY!!! Sad mike, very sad man you are. And if anybody wants to see this mouse crap, corroded pile of crap dominator--I can email pics of it. I tried attaching some here but they wouldn't attach.

[bigray]

yep. he knew he was shaffing you, good stuff for his junk,

[firebird89]

Exactly. Just don't want to see him throw the screws to anyone else.

[shawnp]

I see there is 2 sides to the story. Here is his ad in response to your ad..

cry baby


Ad #182152227 Posted:2014-03-04 09:37:17
This ad expires in 6 days.



this guy firebird89 is a cry baby his daddy got mad at him so he wants he stuff back what are you 3 years old grow up he new what he was getting when we did the trade I sent him a picture of the carb an it was just fine then it is a very good carb just because it does not look new don't mean it is junk if he ever trys it he will see so I really don't care what he puts on here
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I got some real ugly carbs that work great. Is the carb what he said it was? Is it a complete working 1050? Did he say it was like brand new condition? Did he misrepresent this item? If he said it was a brand new looking, like brand new or the ad said currently on his car then he may have mispresented it. If he did not, then he traded you for what you had to offer.

Your ad said you were looking for a good carb, not looking for a show piece. If you haven't tried it yet, you don't know what you got.

[firebird89]

shawnp--you must be a idiot just like mike!!! I'm far from being a cry baby. I sell nice parts and represent them 100% of what they are. I don't send piles of corroded up junk and tell people it's good stuff. You must be a real good business guy just like mike punk. When I send out good stuff, I expect to get what I was told.

[firebird89]

And another thing shawnp---if mike didn't care what I had to say on here, why did he contact RJ like a little pussy and have the ad deleted that I posted with a pic of the junk I got from him? Rat shit, corrosion, bent vent tubes and all? Get your crap staright before you start shooting your mouth off about something you know nothing about clown.

[SuperComp1R]

I heard an old saying, it goes......there are 3 sides to every story, #1. Your side...#2. His side..#3. then there is the truth.... either way things were slow on here and now here we go.

[Harbone]

I heard an old saying, it goes......there are 3 sides to every story, #1. Your side...#2. His side..#3. then there is the truth.... either way things were slow on here and now here we go.

Yes there is and yes it has been slow as hell around here lately!
I am ready for this one...


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[firebird89]

To be quite honest guys, I'm not here to gather opinions on who's right, wrong, being honest, or being a liar. I'm not here to try to handle my business either. I will take care of the situation on my own. I'm not even here to defend my version of how I feel this has gone down. I know the facts and that's all I need to know. I simply came on here to warn others to beware and deal carefully. Not every racer has endless funds to spend. And even if you do, that still doesn't give someone the right to mislead you in a deal. I think getting a nasty pile of junk like this and being ticked off about it is a far cry from expecting a "show piece" or being called a cry baby because I expect a straight deal. So either take my tip and learn from my mistake, or go ahead and get yourself burned too.

[markdunlap]

Hold up there guys, that's enough fun. Now, anyone got any helpful suggestions? Anyone know this seller?

This guy that sent the junky looking carb is a couple hours away from me and I have seen his ads from time to time. But from what Firebird reported, I think I will stay away from that guy, just to be safe.

[shawnp]

You are the guy that posted on here that you bought from Mike before and liked the product but had issues with the packaging. Did you make mention of the previous issue and ask him to package the carb better? You're also the same guy that said you got a 20' picture of a carb and didn't ask for better pictures. Did you ask about the condition? The last time ran? How long it had been sitting? I have had some real ugly carbs that made the picture of what you posted look like new but it worked better then the new carb I replaced it with. So if you clean it up a little, bolt it on and the thing flat out repeats, did you get a bad deal?

[firebird89]

If you choose to put carbs on your car that are full of corrosion, obviously leaking out of almost every gasket, full of mouse crap and has cocked over vent tubes that cracked the body, good luck to you. You'll need it. I'm not a baby sitter. If a grown man can't be smart enough to package a part properly, then he shouldn't be shipping parts. So the next time you buy a part from a manufacturer and it gets to you broken, swallow it buddy. The packaging wasn't the main issue of the post. Your digging for ground to stand on. And yes, I admitted my mistakes in the deal. But my mistakes weren't screwing someone over. Your bagging on the wrong guy here.

[shawnp]

Do me a favor... post the pics of the this carb. I saw the one you posted on the ad you put up yesterday and from what I saw, it wasn't as bad as you are describing.

[firebird89]

I tried posting them here with my original post AS I SAID IN MY ORIGINAL POST. I couldn't get them to attach for whatever reason. That's why I posted a ad on the classifieds. Besides--what exactly are you going to fix about this? You start out by calling me a cry baby, and now you ask me to do you a favor? Get a life. Where's mike if this is so defendable on his end? Are you his backbone or something? If your so confident mike didn't stiff me, good luck buying from him! No comment on running junk on your car? You sure like to dance around a lot. Let me guess--a buddy of mikes perhaps?

[firebird89]

You know--it's idiots like you and mike that give drag racers a bad name. I came here to warn people, not get into a pissing match with you. You have no clue what your babbling about in the first place. I've said my peace on this. Anyone that wants to buy from him, or you judging by your attitude for that matter---all I can say is GOOD LUCK with that!!!!! I'm done wasting my time on this. If you care to carry it on, look my profile up, get my number off my ads and give me a call. This keyboard warrior crap is for sissies. DONE

[shawnp]

First off... I never called you a cry baby... that was the quote/title from the ad that Mike posted in response to your ad on RJ. Secondly, I don't know Mike, not sure that I have dealt with Mike over the years on here buying and selling stuff but do see that he has been an 11 year member on RJ with zero complaints. You even started off posting that your 1st transaction you got what you wanted and what was expected. Based on Mike's ad that he posted in reply to your ad, there is 2 sides to the story. If you want to hop on here and flame this guy, you better be willing to back it up. If you can prove to the forum members you got burned or you were mislead or the product was mispresented, then myself and the forum members will make sure to make people aware of this guys bad dealings.

I also noticed that you post a lot in this forum. Seems like a lot of your postings are "Don't buy from" "Beware this guy" "I got scammed by" and so forth. Not saying your crying wolf here, but if you had been burnt that many times for no pictures, no info or whatever, you would think that just maybe you would be a little more careful buying used parts.

[shawnp]

I reached out to the seller. Below is his responses:

Subject: Re: RJ RaceSpace: Carb deal in the forum section

I read what you said thanks he has never tried the carb it don't leak there no mouse crap on it.it is a very good carb never miss lead the guy never told him it looks new I sent him a picture of it. ask him about the nice shifter I sold him .why would I sell him one thing nice an then some junk. thanks mike




go ahead .mike

On [2014-03-05 10:16:11] shawnp wrote:
> Do you mind if I post this over on the forum. It's nice to have both sides of the story.
>
> Thanks
>
> On [2014-03-05 09:59:57] lisamike1070 wrote:
> > his his a cry baby he made the trade an is dad got mad I sent him a picture of the carb he new what he was getting there is nothing wrong with it I just took it off my car in October when I sold it only thing it needs is clean it up with carb cleaner that does not keep it from working its a very good carb .mike

> > On [2014-03-05 08:24:55] shawnp wrote:
> > > I see there is a complaint about your carb deal. What was the deal with the carb? Was it as bad as the guy is making it sound? His story is full of mouse crap, broken and rusted out.

[firebird89]

He's full of it first off. I already posted a pic of this thing on the classifieds with mouse crap all over it. That's the only place I could get pics to load. I'll post another ad when I'm done here with the pic I got from him with the carb sitting on the motor in his car yet. And I'll post a few more pics. And I already said the shifter was a good buy. Is there something you didn't understand about that in my very first post about this??? If I was just running this guy down, why would I even say I got a descent deal from him on the shifter. And to top it all off--I just checked the numbers on this junk (12R-9027 B) and (9377) Now anyone want to tell me what those are numbers for? Yes, an 1150. It's not even a 1050. And I have in my messages the questions I asked him regarding it before had and that was definitely one I verified. So go check out the most recent ads inj a few minutes and you tell me this thing doesn't leak and doesn't have mouse crap on it.

[firebird89]

> > > On [2014-01-21 10:21:41] lisamike1070 wrote:
> > > > have a 1050 holley would need 250 cash an carb .mike
> > > Here's mikes reply to my ad. I also posted another ad in the classifieds with a few pics--go look before it get's deleted again.

[firebird89]

And in response to me crying wolf about stuff--I don't have a problem calling people on the carpet when they do crappy deals. If you can't stand behind your stuff--don't sell. If you want to send people broken junk, misrepresented parts--go do it somewhere else. And besides calling people on the carpet, I've also given people props here for conducting business well. So shawnp, you seriously need to get you crap together on what your flapping your lips about, or you need to stay out of it. In case you forgot, this forum is for stuff just like this. It's not to here to be scrutinized by guys like you that don't know nearly as much as you think you do. And so what if mikes been a member for 11 years? I didn't exactly join yesterday.

[shawnp]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.racingjunk.com/ui/0/51/33759510-508-JUNK-1150-carb-Check-it-out.jpg

[firebird89]

Perfect! Thank you

[shawnp]

That carb doesn't look near the way you described. It looks like a used carb. What I see is not necessarily corrosion but the results of additives in fuel. Lubes or any types of dyes that the fuel companies use will do this to a carb as shown. I think your only true complaint is that it is an 1150 carb and not a 1050.

[firebird89]

Wow--whatever dude. Get a life!!! Obviously people should think REAL hard before buying from you as well. Pure ignorance at it's finest. I'm done wasting my time arguing my points with mindless heads.

[shawnp]

I have a brand new Rupert 1250 and an APD 1150 that both have stains from the dyes from lube and the fuel scents. I have an older Rupert that looks about like that on the top. It's used, I expect it to happen when dealing with highly corrosive chemicals that the fuel companies are using in their product and years of use. It doesn't mean the carb is junk and definitely doesn't look like it sat in the bottom of a lake. The nice thing is a little carb or brake cleaner takes most of it off.

Let's see... It's Mike now, it was Orville, Wayne, Nonie44, Lou1320, nuttymnm, bad548nova and a deal on 67 mustang. I can't help but notice all these topics are how people have ripped you off. Starting to look like a trend here. There are people reading that have sent some PM's. They seem to notice the trend as well. At least you did give some positive feedback to the guys at Trick Chassis. That was a bad deal that worked it's self out. They build a quality car.

[firebird89]

You are truly a idiot. Get a life loser. Ask the PM senders if you can post them--I'd like to see you back your word up big mouth. Because all I'm hearing is bla bla bla

[shawnp]

Well... they are reading. Your request is if I can post up the PM's. Guys... is it OK with you or do you want to post?

But the fact is, the logged posts that anyone can see with all those names above speak for themselves.

[firebird89]

Ya go head-post. If you got something to say--say it. If you want to except a crappy deal, that's your choice. It's not mine. Go get in your pencil on wheels and pretend you know how to race.

[firebird89]

If your going to call me on the carpet for calling bad deals out on here--make sure you read the posts and get the details before you start throwing bullshit around. Is this forum for that purpose or not? Personally shawnp, I think your nothing but a big mouth punk.

[shawnp]

Thanks Wayne.

"I don't know you but you are beating a dead horse with this firebird 89. I am the one that bought car from him then he came here said I owed him extra thousand dollars would u let me take your car 13 hours away and I owe u money ask he bitches about every deal been watching him for years ask if he ever got his money or his car no he didn't lied about whole deal. None of my business just letting u know you will be the next ah to him on the forum good luck wayne"


See if any the others are OK when/if they get back to reading tonight.

[firebird89]

Haha--held the title for a reason from Wayne. He was told he would get the title when I got the grand. And here's another little fact to that story-- I contacted the guy that had the firebird that got it from wayne and sent him the titlefor the car. And this fella had nothing but issues with wayne too. He stuck it to this guy also. So any others you'd like to throw out there?

[firebird89]

You have fun keeping this going. I've made my point on the carb. You want to buy from mike--enjoy. You want to keep up a pissing contest with me shawnp, be a man and call me. I will not waste my time even coming here to read it anymore. If you don't have the balls to call people on the carpet for crappy deals--that's your problem. And as far as what you think--I could really care less. I've had more back bone operated on than you have at all. So keep talking your crap--I refuse to let you waste any more of my time.

[Harbone]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.racingjunk.com/ui/0/51/33759510-508-JUNK-1150-carb-Check-it-out.jpg

So is this the pic of the carb you bought? I thought you said the vent tube was bent?

[waynesworld154]

Cause everyone is lying but him they have to be all deals but one he got screwed

[SuperComp1R]

Hey now this is getting good, seems i read that the vent tubes were bent and......wait for it.........rat crap in it. (or rodent crap) oh wait some kind of crap. I would like to see a "Complete Carb Picture"

[Harbone]

and just like that, he is gone... :lol:

[Scooterz]

Good job boys!!

[firebird89]

Any of you idiots that think that looks like a nice, or good carb, go fk your selves. I just don't bother to waste my time anymore with idiots that don't have a clue. I generally have better things to do than argue with mindless dipsh-ts. I could care less wtf anybody on here thinks. At least I don't misrepresent stuff I sell. In the end, it was a lesson learned. Good job? It's a good job to stick several hundred dollars up somebody'
s azz? Ya, real good job. Retard. And if any of you feel like some bad ass keyboard warriors and want to talk to me personally like a man, just give me a call.

[SuperComp1R]

wow, it sure took you a long time to reply........did you just get out of jail.