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cervidog
01-10-2013, 04:05 PM
Lost of those cheep 7/8qt oil pans out there,anybody using one? I am thinking of getting one.Among other things about fit.Sellers are never specific about what they will or will not fit.I got a 400 sbc in an 80Malibu.
zipper06
01-10-2013, 04:57 PM
They will fit i have a 377"/aka/400 blk with 350 crank in my 80 malibu.
Zip.
bixblk
01-10-2013, 06:38 PM
Check the welds on the baffle(s) and flap of the oil pan. I had the welds on the flap break lose and get caught under the pick up :(
New pan, brand name. Got no sympathy when talking to the maunfact.
roadkill2
01-11-2013, 05:17 AM
What's your engine worth?
One of the posters up here has a signature that says "Only the rich can afford to use cheap parts" or something like that . .
Take that for what it's worth . . .
Oil is the lifeblood of your engine. Can you "afford" to be without it ?
TheYellaBrick
01-11-2013, 04:52 PM
Engine harmonics combined with flinging oil mass (even with a windage tray) can raise all sorts of heck on inferior welds in an oil pan.
cervidog
01-12-2013, 11:31 AM
Thanks for the input guys.All other things being equal,I can put my own welds on one for the money.
zipper06
01-12-2013, 03:24 PM
Thanks for the input guys.All other things being equal,I can put my own welds on one for the money.
I was a ProComp dealer for 8 yrs., and i've sold 40 to 50 of these pans, forunately i haven't seen any weld problems, but i did have 2 pans that were warped on the pan rails up to 1/4", i always use studs and recommend that anyone use them on any pan they buy.
I'm no longer a dealer as of 11/2012, i couldn't keep up with the high volume sellers, so it wasn't worth my time.
JMO
Zip.
fast75vega
01-19-2013, 01:54 PM
What's your engine worth?
One of the posters up here has a signature that says "Only the rich can afford to use cheap parts" or something like that . .
Take that for what it's worth . . .
Oil is the lifeblood of your engine. Can you "afford" to be without it ?
yes sir.... couldnt say it any better :wink:
curtisreed
01-20-2013, 06:38 AM
I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes but I think it is easy to say what's your engine worth to someone, but we all have our budgets.
If this is what you have the money for just get it in and check it out really well. Set it on a block the check the rail straightness, use the end gaskets to check there, look over the welds really good, check the clearance of the pickup to the bottom of the pan. If it doesn't meet your expectations send it back.
If you want to look at a mid priced pan check out these guys. this is who's pan I am running and also a few of my friends.
http://www.champpans.com/index.cfm
Curtis
roadkill2
01-21-2013, 05:17 AM
As goofy as it sounds, an oil pan is a very important part of your "complete engine assembly" . . Without a properly designed (and built) pan you are putting all the other high buck parts you've invested in at risk . .
Not to mention, possibly losing 25-35 HP to windage. And, with windage and a lack of storage volume, you may run out of oil at the top end of a run (it's all either in the top of the engine or suspended by windage) . .
And as was mentioned, excessive windage also can break welds inside the pan, further disrupting oil return flows, and unless you get lucky and find the problems on a teardown, you get to re-invest when the oil pan problems manifest themselves!
And waaay back when I was doing a lotta fabrication, I must've built, modified or repaired several dozen "Racing" Oil Pans, and disregarding how much time I had in 'em, they weren't any better than the expensive ones and certainly, more expensive if you got paid for it.
Currently, I'm a crew chief for a guy who owns a sheet metal fab shop, and he could probably build anything we've bought, but when you look at the engineering and time it takes to build a good oil pan, they're really pretty cheap and damned good insurance . .
Back to the "Cheap parts" saying . . Ask yourself, are those T&D rockers or those high Buck Roller Lifters worth saving a hundred or so bucks on an oil pan for . . ?
Jus' sayin'
oldandtired
01-21-2013, 12:07 PM
Note that the kickout will sometime limit your steering.
Dave
curtisreed
01-21-2013, 12:09 PM
So who's pan do you run Roadkill?
roadkill2
01-24-2013, 06:00 AM
So who's pan do you run Roadkill?
We've finally settled on a "Jeff Johnson 10 qt. Stroker" . . Took it out of the box and bolted it on . . . We didn't have to reinvent the wheel to get it to fit . . Costs about a grand, but the engineering is great, it doesn't leak, easy to get off and on, you can change the starter without removing the pan, it's baffled well so it doesn't starve the engine when the chute comes out, it's nearly zero in the windage department, and fits the oil pump we use . .
We used it all last season and had no problems. No "Quick 60's" or any "Diaper Drag" either . .
('67 Iron Camaro, Alston tube chassis, 582" BBC/PG, 9" Ford, Ladder Bar/coil over-5.90/9.24/151mph-s/pro-Gasoline, no juice)
curtisreed
01-24-2013, 08:27 AM
So who's pan do you run Roadkill?
We've finally settled on a "Jeff Johnson 10 qt. Stroker" . . Took it out of the box and bolted it on . . . We didn't have to reinvent the wheel to get it to fit . . Costs about a grand, but the engineering is great, it doesn't leak, easy to get off and on, you can change the starter without removing the pan, it's baffled well so it doesn't starve the engine when the chute comes out, it's nearly zero in the windage department, and fits the oil pump we use . .
We used it all last season and had no problems. No "Quick 60's" or any "Diaper Drag" either . .
('67 Iron Camaro, Alston tube chassis, 582" BBC/PG, 9" Ford, Ladder Bar/coil over-5.90/9.24/151mph-s/pro-Gasoline, no juice)
Yep, been there done that. I couldn't control the oil with his pan. The champion I have now does a better job of that for waaay less money. I'm glad you have success with his pans, many do. Just didn't work in my case. I do believe that would be overkill for the OP though. Nice best e.t. What does it weigh?
roadkill2
01-24-2013, 05:57 PM
2700#, and the times were at 4850 feet MSL, 7100' corrected air, 101°, 28% humidity . . about average for where we race . .
If we were at 800-1000' with say, 3100' Corrected air. 85-90°, we could probably put together a high 8.70 or so . . but we live and race up on the rock so you take what you can get . . Y'kno, if a frog had wings . . .