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browzer
08-07-2012, 12:16 AM
Found a NOS in the box set of 1960-1963 Ford rear end gears with 5.14 ratio last week. Should I sell them to the first gear head I bump into or is there a niche group of guys out there who'd really appreciated the old parts ?

Thanks in advance,
Ramblin Randy

outlaw256
08-07-2012, 03:28 AM
they arent nos. new old stock. ford never made 5.14s available to the public as a option.i went lookin for optional gearing after reading this and i didnt see 5.14 nowhere.my 62 galaxie sure could use them thou. i have a 352 that takes from al. to chicago to get to 70 lol

TheYellaBrick
08-07-2012, 04:39 AM
NOS 'in box'...Any part numbers? How 'bout a pic or two of the box and gears/numbers ? We LIKE to solve puzzle's here !

browzer
08-07-2012, 08:01 AM
Yep we got pics and part numbers.

Stamped into gear: WAB 4210 F
Stamped into pinion: 4610 H
Written on Box: WAB 4209 E ( gear set 5.14 ratio )

My reference is a google book page for the book "FOOORRD PERFORMANCE GUIDE" and on page 94 there's the following:

WAB 4209 E
60-63 Differential Gear and Pinion Set
5.14 to 1 (352 and 390 engines)

The fellow who owned these is long gone and am told back in the day he liked things that ran really fast. The photo of the gears had bad lighting and I'll redo it after lunch time...

http://wowabunga.com/IDME/gears/gears1.JPG

http://wowabunga.com/IDME/gears/gears2.JPG

TheYellaBrick
08-07-2012, 02:33 PM
I LOVE fondling old NOS boxes and parts !
:shock: :shock: Does that make me kinky ? :shock: :shock:
8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

browzer
08-07-2012, 06:01 PM
Here's some added mystry, these shims were in the box with the gears. There's 12 shims but they don't line up with the holes in the ring gear. No markings on the Ford envelope either. Is there a way to size these up and find out what they might fit ? ( ran out of time today will grab the photo of the gears in the morning )

http://wowabunga.com/IDME/gears/gears4.JPG

TheYellaBrick
08-07-2012, 06:18 PM
LIVELY ! You're up, Dude ! :D :D

markdunlap
08-07-2012, 07:10 PM
The shims are pinion support spacers to adjust the pinion gear depth. Standard depth was 1.031" from the centerline of the axle and standard shim was .020'. It would be etched into the back end of the pinion gear on aftermarket sets.

outlaw256
08-08-2012, 05:15 AM
why is the part # hand written on the box? never have seen nos parts that were in hand writting.and not sticker or printed labels.not trying to get anything started buddy, just really kinda wantin to know.been in the parts buuisness onand off for 30 yrs. i like to get to the bottom of things. but 5.14 were not a option. they ccould be ordered for you but they didint have a box that said place x here for this # of ring and pinion size.you got my interest up big time lol

TheYellaBrick
08-08-2012, 05:21 AM
That deep a gear, could they have been for an 'industrial' application ? Truck or something that had to move pretty darn slow ?

browzer
08-08-2012, 06:47 AM
The box has EDSEL printed on it next to the other lines of the day, so the box is from the right time period. Maybe they were try'n to unload a mountain of obsolete cardboard printed with EDSEL and sent a truck of the stuff over to their "performance" division instead of the landfill..... LOL.

browzer
08-19-2012, 11:06 AM
Here's the pic of the actual gears. In spots there's a wee bit of surface rust from years of garage storage. Ford part numbers are stamped on both. My 70 year old gear head racing buddy of mine confirms they've never been on a car.

http://wowabunga.com/IDME/gears/gears3.JPG

DRTRCR22
08-21-2012, 04:40 PM
Is it possible these were made for short track NASCAR racing...? A 5.14 might be about right for Bristol, Martinsville and maybe Richmond...?

fast75vega
08-21-2012, 04:43 PM
Is it possible these were made for short track NASCAR racing...? A 5.14 might be about right for Bristol, Martinsville and maybe Richmond...?

good call ..... that does sound plausible :)

dragonmaster093
08-22-2012, 03:12 AM
could they have been for the factory drag teams?

browzer
08-22-2012, 08:31 AM
Factory drag team..... humm..... how'd they end up here in Polecat Hollar MD ? The estate told me in his day he liked to go fast.

TheYellaBrick
08-22-2012, 05:00 PM
:shock: :shock: WHERE's Lively ? He's our resident Ford guy. Did he get sidetracked by a MoPar ?! :D :D :D