Got a wheel gun ?

[TheYellaBrick]

Check out this unit;

https://www.tuffproducts.com/product.php?productid=16338&cat=265&page=1

Video;
http://www.kiristudios.com/Clients/Tuff/Tuff.mov

Mine were just shipped today, will give a field report when they get here.
357Mag and 12gage

[roadkill2]

Maybe a good Idea, maybe not, depending on what you're doing with the gun that takes that kind of ammo.

If you have a wheel gun for self defense, basically, you have 5 or 6 rounds to get you out of trouble. That's why most law enforcement and people who have to depend on their handgun went to semi-autos . . they have another 13-16 rounds on hand very quickly in a second magazine.

However, if you, as a civilian, need more than 5 or 6 rounds in any kind of situation, you either needed to learn to be proficient with the gun you're using or you're in a gunfight you shouldn't have gotten into . . Should've taken a rifle (or a Shotgun) to the fight.

Which brings me to another observation. The Shooter in Colorado was a nerd, which, I'm sure, saved a lot of lives in that theatre that night. He opted for a high Cap "Drum Magazine" for his AR . . All that "handy" sh*t doesn't work. If it did, you'd see drum mags on all of the military weaponry. The straighter the feed, the more reliable. High capacity and quick reloading won't replace accuracy with any firearm, which usually separates the men from the boys when the sh*t hits the fan . .

Hot tip, Ruger LM 9mm w/ laser sight. 6 rounds where you want 'em, when you need 'em! Little bitty sucker but easy to shoot, fills the hand . . or the pocket . .

[TheYellaBrick]

Looks like the perfect ankle gun ! Just what I've been looking for. Thanks for posting that !

[TheYellaBrick]

LC9 writeup and testing;

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/ruger-lc9-9mm-pistols/

[outlaw256]

drums look cool as hell but i got one for my ak and i cant get more than a few shots off before i gotta throw the damn gun at them instead of shooting at them.

[TheYellaBrick]

That's what happened to the Colorado shooter. Drum mag and weapon jammed, then he switched to a Remington 870 and really did some damage.

Got my QuickStrips. The 357 strips; The design allows for ease of carrying in a pocket or two, or a QS pouch on your belt. Hardly any more room than a mag. I've not used a speed loader so don't know which is faster, probably the speed loader, but the ease of carry requires a special pouch and they'd be bulky in your pocket.
The 12g QS allows for ease of carry in a pouch or Bail Out bag in a qty of 6 rounds each.

[outlaw256]

well i prefer a revolver. no jammin.but if i cant stop someone with 6 shots im dead anyway.

[olds48]

Im with Outlaw on this one. I dont trust an auto to work 100% of the time. Love my revolvers. Never had one not go off...yet.

[roadkill2]

Pardon Me . . it is a Ruger "LC" . . I knew it was one of those letters! Just never looked . .

On th' Auto and reliability thing. The old six shooter or revolver is great if you like them . . but, kinda "klunky" when you're trying to pack one without all the whiny people noticing and recoiling in fright . . Nothing like a Target grip on a "L" frame in a shoulder trap to look outa place . . Heh, heh . . Never could figger out how "Dirty Harry' could hide that 6" Model 29 under that corduroy jacket . . again, with target grips (rosewood, even)

If you have any doubts about the reliability of your auto, take it out and rack off a clip full as fast as they'll come out of the gun for about 3-4 clips . . If it's got a propensity to hang, that'll generally do it . . Biggest problem, usually is the feed ramp feeding HPs (or semi jacketeds) up into the chamber. Recoil and dirt will cause one to hang about half way through the clip, especially if you keep that clip loaded all the time. Keeping the mag spring compressed all the time ain't really good for them . . nor is keeping a high cap mag full all the time . .

[TheYellaBrick]

Lots of spare clips and cycle them full in your pistol, then empty and at rest in your drawer. Just like storing your hot rod for any length of time, relax the springs(valve) lets them live longer.

[olds48]

Ya'll are exactly right. My Keltec (pos but it fits well in my back pocket) stays full of lint and the mag stays loaded all the time. I know it's not good for it to be like that,but that gun is built so loose it almost doesn't matter. I always have the Keltec in my hip pocket and my trusty 22 mag 5 shot revolver in my front left. My keys and pocket knife go in the front right so i dont scratch ''Maggie" :wink:

[oldandtired]

Lots of spare clips and cycle them full in your pistol, then empty and at rest in your drawer. Just like storing your hot rod for any length of time, relax the springs(valve) lets them live longer.

Absolutely. And just because it will hold 16 rounds, never fully load it unless you are getting to shot it.

For storage (self defense) load 12 and change mags monthly. Go thru your entire set and next rotation schedule load 11 or 13. Get it?

JMO from an HK instructor.

[outlaw256]

kmow all about how to keep the clipsand you are right about how to store them and how to keep them ready. but ive owned all kinds of high dollar autos and i still prefer revolvers. i had a .45 that was kept in good condition and that sucker jammed on me one nite when it could have cost me my life. from that day forward ive only toted revolvers.never had one jam up.but i did have one pull my pants down one nite.lol true..

[oldandtired]

Guys, before you make your next purchase, check out the little known .327 Mag.

Basically is an extended .32 caliber cartridge with steriods.

A .357 mag 125 gr JHP (Speer) has 1450 FPS velocity (muzzle)
The .327 mag 100 gr JHP (American Eagle) has 1400 FPS velocity (muzzle).

Very small, very light, very deadly revolver.

[TheYellaBrick]

An article about backups....I'm thinking on getting 2 LC9's, one in the waist and one on an ankle.

http://modernselfprotection.com/2012/07/03/backup-guns/

[roadkill2]

While this has a lot to do with choice and personal preference, I've never felt the need for a "backup" piece . . As a citizen, I believe that if you can't save yer butt with 4 well placed rounds, you probably needed a better set of running shoes . . or a lot more diplomacy . .

But to each his own . .

[TheYellaBrick]

It all depends on the environment you might find yourself in. Multiple attackers,ie; gang, might require a few more rounds than you have in one piece. Or you might not be able to easily/quickly access one or the other.

[TheYellaBrick]

Been researching light compact 9mm's.

Ruger's LC9 has a little pin that has to be taken out in order to strip it. That little pin is EASILY dropped/lost. BIG negative in my book.

S&W's M&P Shield is EASILY stripped ONE HANDED without tools or tiny parts to loose.

BOTH are very close to the same price, both are 7+1, LC9 is 2oz lighter, both same height, both same length, both same width.

[Scooterz]

Just got a Kaltec 9mm a while ago. It has to be the smallest 9mm I have ever seen/shot. That gun fits in a sock/ankle, pocket, etc... very small for caliber. They are not expensive; but effective.