View Full Version : OTHER CAR WENT RED, BUT WE STILL LOST, ???
bigray
06-03-2012, 01:01 PM
RACING AT TULSA THIS WEEKEND, AND THE OTHER CAR WENT RED AT THE TREE, THEN AT THE FINISH LINE THE GUY THAT WENT RED GETS THE WIN LIGHT .. THE TRACK SAID THAT IF THE CAR GOES RED, AND YOU TRY TO CHASE HIM DOWN, AND DO NOT CATCH HIM YOU LOOSE,, NOW I BEEN RACING FOR 30+ YEARS AND THAT IS SOME STUPID ASS CHIT, IF U GO RED,, U GO HOME,, HAS ANYONE EVER HAD A OPPONENT GO RED AT THE TREE, AND SAY ,OOOH I GOTTA SIT HERE BECAUSE IF I TRY TO CATCH HIM, AND DONT, HE WILL GET THE WIN LIGHT, HELLLLL. NO.. YOU SAY TO YOURSELF,, I JUST WON,, HE WENT RED AT THE TREE, NO ITS A FREE TIME RUN FOR ME,, AND I GOT THE VIDEO OF THE OTHER CAR LEAVING ON THE RED LIGHT,, AND YES THIS REALLY DID HAPPEN AT TULSA RACE WAY PARK, TULSA, OKLAHOMA, SATURDAY NIGHT AT THE MIDNIGHT FASTEST CAR FINALS, WHAT A JOKE !!!! FOR THE TOWER TO COME UP WITH THAT FANTASY LAND RULE. THAT THEY MUST HAVE WROTE ON TOILET PAPER WITH A CRAYON,,W.T.F.
andamo
06-03-2012, 01:11 PM
The general rule is, first or worst is the loser. Even if you didn't know he went red and chased him down, the race was OVER when he lit the red bulb. Sounds like you got screwed big time. Your win light in your lane should have come on as soon as he lit the red light and you're the automatic winner.
bigray
06-03-2012, 01:43 PM
yep. it crazy. they go red at the tree, and leave with the red light on at the tree, then at the stripe. they get the win light,, we got Screwed, be the excuse at the tower is what really pissed me off..
fast75vega
06-03-2012, 02:46 PM
RACING AT TULSA THIS WEEKEND, AND THE OTHER CAR WENT RED AT THE TREE, THEN AT THE FINISH LINE THE GUY THAT WENT RED GETS THE WIN LIGHT .. THE TRACK SAID THAT IF THE CAR GOES RED, AND YOU TRY TO CHASE HIM DOWN, AND DO NOT CATCH HIM YOU LOOSE,, NOW I BEEN RACING FOR 30+ YEARS AND THAT IS SOME STUPID ASS CHIT, IF U GO RED,, U GO HOME,, HAS ANYONE EVER HAD A OPPONENT GO RED AT THE TREE, AND SAY ,OOOH I GOTTA SIT HERE BECAUSE IF I TRY TO CATCH HIM, AND DONT, HE WILL GET THE WIN LIGHT, HELLLLL. NO.. YOU SAY TO YOURSELF,, I JUST WON,, HE WENT RED AT THE TREE, NO ITS A FREE TIME RUN FOR ME,, AND I GOT THE VIDEO OF THE OTHER CAR LEAVING ON THE RED LIGHT,, AND YES THIS REALLY DID HAPPEN AT TULSA RACE WAY PARK, TULSA, OKLAHOMA, SATURDAY NIGHT AT THE MIDNIGHT FASTEST CAR FINALS, WHAT A JOKE !!!! FOR THE TOWER TO COME UP WITH THAT FANTASY LAND RULE. THAT THEY MUST HAVE WROTE ON TOILET PAPER WITH A CRAYON,,W.T.F.
you def got screwed .... i bet someone in the tower was friends with the guy who red lighted ...... lol
bigray
06-03-2012, 02:59 PM
JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S READING ENJOYMENT, IT IS POSTED IN THE TULSA RACEWAY PARK FORUMS. UNDER MIDNIGHT'S RACING, IT WASNT A BIG MONEY RACE. BUT ITS JUST THE POINT, SOME GUY WAS SAYING ON THE THE TULSA FORUM THAT IN REAL STREET RACING. THAT IF YOU CHASE ITS A RACE, WELL I HAVENT EVER SEEN THE RULE BOOK FOR STREET RACING, AND I LOOKED AT NHRA AND IHRA AND HECK EVEN E-BAY..lol. :lol: AND I CANT FIND THIS EVERALOOSEVE STREET RACING HAND BOOK, AND WE WERE AT A NHRA TRACK.. LOL....HAHAHHAA
TheRabbit
06-03-2012, 03:18 PM
First Red looses!!
Sorry, but you got .............
They're lucky it wasn't a big money race. Pull that on the wrong person and it could be UGLY!
bigray
06-03-2012, 03:26 PM
OOH yea if it had been a Big money race, i would have had to bring out my TAZER GUN ..LOL.. but it is getting good on the tulsa raceway park forum..i cant do anything but smile about it now..
bixblk
06-03-2012, 03:53 PM
First red losses. Unless its a test and tune, than it does not matter if you go red or who wins.
I think you got screwed
itsabird
06-03-2012, 05:07 PM
The other guy going red, and winning, could cause a lot of red things to happen.
Harbone
06-03-2012, 05:18 PM
First red losses. Unless its a test and tune, than it does not matter if you go red or who wins.
I think you got screwed
X2!
coolracing
06-03-2012, 06:13 PM
Was the guy that told you this Rich Christensen? :D He likes helping people loose races or their car!
mopar1968
06-03-2012, 06:24 PM
Supposed to be first foul looses :!: :!:
mytmouz
06-03-2012, 06:27 PM
Pretty standard with the grudge racing around these parts. You chase, you race. The reasoning being no one knows if you are giving them the break or not. It keeps the spectators from getting unruly if they have some side action going on...
fast75vega
06-03-2012, 06:52 PM
Pretty standard with the grudge racing around these parts. You chase, you race. The reasoning being no one knows if you are giving them the break or not. It keeps the spectators from getting unruly if they have some side action going on...
try that s**t around these parts and ya just might get shot ..... lol
mopar1968
06-03-2012, 07:15 PM
I agree, You will here also :!: :!:
outlaw256
06-04-2012, 03:06 AM
money race or not, you got it good buddy,i would be in jail for assault right now if that was me. as far as street racing goes, and ive done it all my life, if you jump the flagman your done period.even if you chase him down he still aint the winner. ive seen a few loose some teeth over that crap.ive played dentist a time or two also.lol
Scooterz
06-04-2012, 07:33 AM
So basically, you can purposely jump a Red if you are pretty sure you will get chased on Red... & win if you stay out in front??? Is that just in Tulsa? If that is the case, they just invented a whole new kind of racing. "Early Red Light Gamble"... LOL. What a joke. Man, that sucks.
TheRabbit
06-04-2012, 08:48 AM
money race or not, you got it good buddy,i would be in jail for assault right now if that was me. as far as street racing goes, and ive done it all my life, if you jump the flagman your done period.even if you chase him down he still aint the winner. ive seen a few loose some teeth over that crap.ive played dentist a time or two also.lol
See what I mean about it happening to the wrong person! lol Don't worry Outlaw, I have a feeling you aren't the only one that would have knocked this guy out!!
I hate tracks that make up rules as they go!!
bigray
06-04-2012, 10:02 AM
So basically, you can purposely jump a Red if you are pretty sure you will get chased on Red... & win if you stay out in front??? Is that just in Tulsa? If that is the case, they just invented a whole new kind of racing. "Early Red Light Gamble"... LOL. What a joke. Man, that sucks. YET THAT'S THE WAY WE WERE TOLD,, CRAZY CHIT, SO FROM NOW ON . AS SOON AS THE OTHER CAR STAGES WE ARE JUST GONNA LAUNCH ON RED, AND IF THAT OTHER CAR MOVES . THEN THAT'S CONSIDERED RACING, AND IF HE DOESN'T CATCH US WE WIN,,DAMN >> NOW WE GOTTA LEARN A WHOLE NEW KIND OF RACING,,LOL
Hope they at least kissed ya when they were done :P
TheRabbit
06-04-2012, 01:58 PM
So basically, you can purposely jump a Red if you are pretty sure you will get chased on Red... & win if you stay out in front??? Is that just in Tulsa? If that is the case, they just invented a whole new kind of racing. "Early Red Light Gamble"... LOL. What a joke. Man, that sucks. YET THAT'S THE WAY WE WERE TOLD,, CRAZY CHIT, SO FROM NOW ON . AS SOON AS THE OTHER CAR STAGES WE ARE JUST GONNA LAUNCH ON RED, AND IF THAT OTHER CAR MOVES . THEN THAT'S CONSIDERED RACING, AND IF HE DOESN'T CATCH US WE WIN,,DAMN >> NOW WE GOTTA LEARN A WHOLE NEW KIND OF RACING,,LOL
Just don't stop on your burn out!!!! Frist to the stripe wins NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THERE!! lol
BTW I'd like to see some of the stuff on that forum!!
fast75vega
06-04-2012, 02:59 PM
So basically, you can purposely jump a Red if you are pretty sure you will get chased on Red... & win if you stay out in front??? Is that just in Tulsa? If that is the case, they just invented a whole new kind of racing. "Early Red Light Gamble"... LOL. What a joke. Man, that sucks. YET THAT'S THE WAY WE WERE TOLD,, CRAZY CHIT, SO FROM NOW ON . AS SOON AS THE OTHER CAR STAGES WE ARE JUST GONNA LAUNCH ON RED, AND IF THAT OTHER CAR MOVES . THEN THAT'S CONSIDERED RACING, AND IF HE DOESN'T CATCH US WE WIN,,DAMN >> NOW WE GOTTA LEARN A WHOLE NEW KIND OF RACING,,LOL
Just don't stop on your burn out!!!! Frist to the stripe wins NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THERE!! lol
good point..... but id piss my pants from laughing if i seen someone actually do that rabbit....lmao
Hang around a drag strip long enough you are liable to see anything :lol:
bigray
06-04-2012, 07:39 PM
IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THIS, THIS IS A COPY OF WHAT ONE OF THE TRACK PEOPLE POSTED IN THERE FORM ( Get with Jimmy or Ginger we can do Instant green. No Red Light, Just Stage and then the green light comes on.
Todd ) AND MY RE POST WAS THIS ( I guess i am slowwww. or i didn't understand, ( Instant Green ) i dont see how that would fix it. when the other car jumps you at the tree. he should get the Red light and a automatic loss.. or are you saying that no matter what. when both cars are fully staged. they both get green no matter what. ?? just trying to be very clear on these un written. Grudge race track rules, LOL... :roll: :roll: :roll:
TheRabbit
06-05-2012, 09:12 AM
My reply would be, why not do it light (i mean like lol ) the rest of the world does it?
That is the entire reason for THE RED LIGHT isn't it??
The only thing they're doing is making it so people aren't going to race there!
Sad, but in my opinion next time it will just be some other bs reason something else changes.
zipper06
06-05-2012, 12:19 PM
That rule is even more stupid than some of the tracks in Ms. have like if you deep stage and it's not marked on the windshield DEEP, then you automatically lose, there's not a NHRA or IHRA track in the world that will disqualify you for deep staging, but Holly Springs Ms. will, and that's an outlaw track.
Zip.
mopar1968
06-05-2012, 12:42 PM
Hey Zip Bristol will if it is not marked :!: :!: Bracket Races that is :!: :!:
Mark
itsabird
06-05-2012, 01:43 PM
My reply would be, why not do it light (i mean like lol ) the rest of the world does it?
That is the entire reason for THE RED LIGHT isn't it??
The only thing they're doing is making it so people aren't going to race there!
Sad, but in my opinion next time it will just be some other bs reason something else changes. There ya go.
fast75vega
06-05-2012, 02:08 PM
Hey Zip Bristol will if it is not marked :!: :!: Bracket Races that is :!: :!:
Mark
same here at empire dragway..... but i dont stage deep so it doesnt affect me at all ..... but i seen it done .... lol
curtisreed
06-05-2012, 05:24 PM
Guys please bear in mind that this happened at the Midnight Drags. This is a grudge / street racer program that most of us bracket racers try to clear out before it starts. Every other type of racing at the facility is ran as expected. Not putting them down since it gets a lot of guys off the streets, but it's not the only crazy stuff to ever happen there.
Curtis
bigray
06-05-2012, 06:09 PM
YEP. I JUST KNOW KNOW WHY. ITS SO HARD FOR THE TRACK, TO SAY OK. WE SCREWED UP, AND IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN, AND FROM NOW ON . IF ITS RED WHEN YOU LEAVE, YOU LOOSE,,, AND WE ARE A NHRA TRACK, AND WE WILL USE THERE RULES, I GUESS FROM NOW ON, I WILL KEEP IN MIND THAT THE RULES CHANGE AT MIDNIGHT IN TULSA..LOL
TheRabbit
06-05-2012, 07:00 PM
Guys please bear in mind that this happened at the Midnight Drags. This is a grudge / street racer program that most of us bracket racers try to clear out before it starts. Every other type of racing at the facility is ran as expected. Not putting them down since it gets a lot of guys off the streets, but it's not the only crazy stuff to ever happen there.
Curtis
That's why I will not grudge race. There is always some BS that goes along with it. Grudge racing is not about who has the fastest car or who can cut a light, it's about who can bs or pull some crap over on somebody. I live close to the grudge race capital of the world (House of Hook) and most of the time it never happens anyway and when it does there are a 1,000 different excuses why the looser doesn't have to pay. Look at Tony Bynes in Tx just the other week. Makes me want to puke at the bs reasons why not to pay punk out.
I'd loose my butt grudge racing, because I'd line up and race without all the bs and if I lost I'd pay the guy the money. Not to mention I'm not scared to race just about anything.
Sorry, Rant over.
Well almost over....
If you loose, pay the man and not some bs way out of it.
OP, You should go get your money or at least go get the tires and wheels from the other guys car!!!!!
Over now :wink:
Scooterz
06-05-2012, 07:27 PM
I hear ya Wabb... right is right & wrong is wrong.. period. Forego the damn RED light then if the officials want to make a simple pass a bureaucratic rat-race!!! Man that is not RACING... that is more like POLITICS.
Sounds like pride was the winner...
Curtis is right too. Keep racing off the streets... don't want to see innocent people get hurt/killed for not being responsible. We all have a stories of street races gone horribly wrong... midnight drags are a good solution. I just get fired up when people change the rules after the game!!!
itsabird
06-06-2012, 05:16 AM
I hear what you guys are saying about grudge racing, but that is still cause for a 50 gallon barrel of whoop ass to be opened up on some one.