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[beastmaster]

Deal: Purchasing solid BBC roller Lifters from Seller
Seller: States for $162.00 will sell used set that has low runs good condition w/pushrods
Buyer: Recieves Lifters and rightaway notices that the bearings can be seen wheels looked worn on the sides. Contacted seller and agreed to send set to Crower for Inspection and repair.
Crower: Took 43 days to contact buyer, was told all lifters needed to be repaired , the bill $350.00. I was stumped and informed them of the situation with the seller saying they where in good condition, I was so lucky, they lowered it to cost of 125.00 plus 25.00 shipping.
do you feel the seller should pay half the repair cost?
I asked for 62.50 back
The seller was one of us on this site....said No.

[fast75vega]

sorry......i read it 3 times and im confused ass all hell :?

[mopar1968]

So am i :? :?


Mark

[fast75vega]

So am i :? :?


Mark

good... then its not just me....was starting to wonder if i hit my head when i totaled my truck out sunday afternoon ...... lmao

[TheRabbit]

Deal: Purchasing solid BBC roller Lifters from Seller
Seller: States for $162.00 will sell used set that has low runs good condition w/pushrods
Buyer: Recieves Lifters and rightaway notices that the bearings can be seen wheels looked worn on the sides. Contacted seller and agreed to send set to Crower for Inspection and repair.
Crower: Took 43 days to contact buyer, was told all lifters where repaired (No Authrization) and all were worn out and needed to be repaired, the bill $350.00. I was stumped and informed them of the situation with the seller and did not hear from them to authorize repair, I was so lucky, they lowered it to cost of 125.00 plus 25.00 shipping.
What is a Fair end to this Deal between the seller and the Buyer?
Will post the end of this after a couple of your responses, you wont believe the outcome. Your Bro Beastmaster.....



This makes no sense.

Contacted seller and agreed to send set to Crower for Inspection and repair.

Then you say: I was stumped and informed them of the situation with the seller and did not hear from them to authorize repair, I was so lucky, they lowered it to cost of 125.00 plus 25.00 shipping.

Please explain.

[coolracing]

Who sent the lifters to crower seller or the buyer?

[todd8525]

lunati wants 642.00 new-minus pushrods u paid 162.00. and now have new set for312. incuding shipping.
in the end u lucked out.

[prowagon55]

I read it as the product received by the buyer was not as advertised by the seller. Buyer contacts the seller and an agreement is made by both parties to send the lifters to crower for inspection and repairs. After more than a month Crower notifies the buyer that all the lifters need repair to the tune of $350.00. Buyer explains to Crower the circumstances involving the purchase and they agree to drop the repair price to $150.00 because he already had it shoved up his butt on the initial purchase. Buyer contacts the guy he got the lifters from and tells him he'll split the repair bill with him ($62.50) less the shipping charge. The seller basically tells him to eat it. I see it as a customer making a purchase and taking the pipe on a falsely advertised product.

[RonOwensRacing]

From what i see the buyer paid 162.00 for the lifters then sent them out for repair 43 days later he was contacted that the repair was done and the bill was 350.00 he explained the deal to them they dropped the price down to 125.00 plus shipping of 25.00 . he then contacted the seller ask for 62.50 back and the seller said no.so he is out 312.00 plus the shipping for the repair.

[coolracing]

lunati wants 642.00 new-minus pushrods u paid 162.00. and now have new set for312. incuding shipping.
in the end u lucked out. This my thought exactly no matter what in the end you got a good set of lifters for less then half the price! Yes I understand its not the deal you were hoping for but if it was me I would never buy a used set of lifters in the first place but thats how I am.

[fast75vega]

From what i see the buyer paid 162.00 for the lifters then sent them out for repair 43 days later he was contacted that the repair was done and the bill was 350.00 he explained the deal to them they dropped the price down to 125.00 plus shipping of 25.00 . he then contacted the seller ask for 62.50 back and the seller said no.so he is out 312.00 plus the shipping for the repair.

now it makes sense .... cause he edited most of it :wink: it made no sense the first time.....lol

i agree its not the deal you wanted but now you got brand new for half the cost :) FYI, their are certain parts you never buy used and these are one of them..... just sayin :wink:

[TheRabbit]

lunati wants 642.00 new-minus pushrods u paid 162.00. and now have new set for312. incuding shipping.
in the end u lucked out. This my thought exactly no matter what in the end you got a good set of lifters for less then half the price! Yes I understand its not the deal you were hoping for but if it was me I would never buy a used set of lifters in the first place but thats how I am.

That's exactly where I was going, but wanted to get some more info.

In the end he got a heck of a deal on a new set of lifters!

[mopar1968]

Ron ol'e buddy i am glad you cleared that up :!: :lol:

Mark

[RonOwensRacing]

Some time i will accidentally get one right. :)

[lively]

From what i see the buyer paid 162.00 for the lifters then sent them out for repair 43 days later he was contacted that the repair was done and the bill was 350.00 he explained the deal to them they dropped the price down to 125.00 plus shipping of 25.00 . he then contacted the seller ask for 62.50 back and the seller said no.so he is out 312.00 plus the shipping for the repair.

SOOOO-WHO'S ON FIRST ???

[mopar1968]

No ''Lively'' Who is on third, Where is on first :!: :!:


Mark

[RonOwensRacing]

that is one of the best Jokes ever i have that on a old tape some where now i am going to find that thing. dang it you would bring that one up. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[TheRabbit]

that is one of the best Jokes ever i have that on a old tape some where now i am going to find that thing. dang it you would bring that one up. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ron, you're telling your age now! lol That was BEFORE 8 track!
I kinda remember it.

[RonOwensRacing]

Yep you are right rabbit .
I have been around for awhile i love some of those old skits from way back .
I know rabbits are quick but that old age will sneak up on you. :lol: :lol:

[TheRabbit]

It AINT SNEAKING NO MORE! lol

[bbchevy]

I just Purchased a New set of Lifters,It was NOT 362.00!
`Does this mean I was F KED?
`
Later
G :?

[mopar1968]

Who,what,

http://youtu.be/c6ogFYWUlgA

Mark

[lively]

:lol: :lol: :lol: i always loved that comedy 8)

[RonOwensRacing]

OH Man it don't get any better than that Thanks Mark i love it. :lol:

[beastmaster]

SO Far: Crower only charged 125.00 repaired and shipped to my door, they dropped 25.00 shipping, I was just so mad because these were sold as purchased new in 2006, few runs and good ready to install condition, this was not the case, all I asked for was half the repair bill, was I wrong? I'm not the only person ripped by one of our own here, I should have known better when I seen he only had a 97.1 rating......I was raised that if you make a deal you make an honest one or not at all!... Bro Beast.....

[RonOwensRacing]

Beast i understand were you are coming from . Right is right wrong is wrong.

It don't matter what the final price was they were suppose to have been good lifters. Not needing rebuilt .

Myself ya i think paying half to have them rebuilt was the right thing to do.

[coolracing]

I agree 100 percent that it sucks when something is not what its suppose to be as described but always remember that some parts you should never buy used. I have a couple set of them lifters with very few runs on them I would through them in the junk before trying to pass them on to someone else cause the main thing is ya just never know! In the the end I agree seller should split the repair bill. JM2C

[RonOwensRacing]

Yep Cool i also have a few set's of lifters i know how many runs are on them but i would never sell them just because you never know what could happen .
I have one set that has twenty runs on them dropped a valve and had to pull the engine all apart i will reuse them but that's only because i know but would not sell them to anyone.

[wlpatterson]

So its still a good deal if someone sells you parts that are not what they are advertised to be as long as you can get them fixed cheaper than you can buy new ones??Shit,Ive been doing this wrong for 10 years on here,All that junk I wouldnt sell could have been money in the bank? Not the way I do business,I tell you its good,Its good or I send your money back,Thats the way Business is suppost to be done...I have actually bought parts (some off here) Thats absolutly junk that I have trashed & took the loss rather than trying to screw someone else with it,Im still up & running & it hasnt broke me yet..JMO
All you folks that think this is still a great deal remember this if or when it happens to you..

[THERATTLER]

So its still a good deal if someone sells you parts that are not what they are advertised to be as long as you can get them fixed cheaper than you can buy new ones??s,Ive been doing this wrong for 10 years on here,All that junk I wouldnt sell could have been money in the bank? Not the way I do business,I tell you its good,Its good or I send your money back,Thats the way Business is suppost to be done...I have actually bought parts (some off here) Thats absolutly junk that I have trashed & took the loss rather than trying to screw someone else with it,Im still up & running & it hasnt broke me yet..JMO
All you folks that think this is still a great deal remember this if or when it happens to you..
I AGREE 100%

[coolracing]

So its still a good deal if someone sells you parts that are not what they are advertised to be as long as you can get them fixed cheaper than you can buy new ones??s,Ive been doing this wrong for 10 years on here,All that junk I wouldnt sell could have been money in the bank? Not the way I do business,I tell you its good,Its good or I send your money back,Thats the way Business is suppost to be done...I have actually bought parts (some off here) Thats absolutly junk that I have trashed & took the loss rather than trying to screw someone else with it,Im still up & running & it hasnt broke me yet..JMO
All you folks that think this is still a great deal remember this if or when it happens to you.. I understand where your coming from but "He got LUCKY." Nobody said its a good deal when this problem first came up, but lucky for him things fell into place and he actually did get a good deal. This is why myself and others have advised him that LIFTERS ARE NOT A THING YOU BUY USED! I am sorry if you or anybody else has had a bad deal on here, but it happens when buying used parts and its a chance we all take. This is why everyone should take carfull measures when buying used parts. If you dont want to take the chance then buy NEW!

[THERATTLER]

he "got lucky" ? no sir , he would have been lucky if what he bought was as advertised...he got screwed .. jmo

[coolracing]

he "got lucky" ? no sir , he would have been lucky if what he bought was as advertised...he got screwed .. jmo I would say he got screwed if crower would had not dropped the price. I am not siding with nobody but if he would have got what was advertised he would have a used set of lifters which as a buyer you have absolutly no clue what you have bought , no clue what they been through, how much abuse they sustained, nothing. Now Maniac you awnser me this can you yourself buy a set of crower lifters for $362.00 that have been reconditioned by crower with pushrods? If you can please let me know where I can buy them becuase ill buy 2 sets rite now cause I just paid a hell of alot more than that! I would pay $362 anyday of the week instead of what I pay at dealer cost!

[bjuice]

Deal: Purchasing solid BBC roller Lifters from Seller
Seller: States for $162.00 will sell used set that has low runs good condition w/pushrods
Buyer: Recieves Lifters and rightaway notices that the bearings can be seen wheels looked worn on the sides. Contacted seller and agreed to send set to Crower for Inspection and repair.
Crower: Took 43 days to contact buyer, was told all lifters needed to be repaired , the bill $350.00. I was stumped and informed them of the situation with the seller saying they where in good condition, I was so lucky, they lowered it to cost of 125.00 plus 25.00 shipping.
do you feel the seller should pay half the repair cost?
I asked for 62.50 back
The seller was one of us on this site....said No.

IMO what you got here is a clear cut situation of difference of opinions. To the seller they may have seemed to be in good shape..same thing if I look at a girl and think she is the bomb and you think she's a dog..another example: I have seen a many of cars,weld jobs etc...that some people would swear was a top notch job that I wouldn't take it for free.

of course none of us will ever know what the sellers intentions were..but given the info as it was spelled out to me it was all a matter of opinion. Now if the seller told him they were solid lifters and then they came in as rollers thats another story...but condition can always be a gray area when opinions are involved. nothing wrong in asking him to pay for half of the re-build but IMO he is not wrong if he declined to pay...again just my 2 cents..

another clear reason I do not bother buying used TQ Converters, lifters ,camshafts,pistons ( basically any rotating natural wearing parts) etc.......unless I know the guy and the parts....just saying.

[THERATTLER]

what ever! he didnt get screwed by crower he got screwed by seller again JMO

[coolracing]

he didnt get screwed by crower he got screwed by seller

Exactly! That is why I said seller should be obligated to cough up some of that repair cost!