Gutted the interior

[Harbone]

Started the interior teardown today. Plulled the cluster and dash. Someone had already butchered the cluster before, 2 bent metal tabs screwed into the housing was all that was holding it in place!
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Took the front seats out and then removed the dash, a few rusty screws and it all came out.
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[Harbone]

Dash is nice minus the big warp in the top, gonna work on that. It has no cracks or damage so I gotta save it!:)
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So the floorpans have been replaced on both sides, decent job but they never painted the floor. I had some leftover POR, so a good scuff and slap it on!
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[Harbone]

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The cooling fans were wired up to run all the time so a new thermo-switch from Jeg's and a little wiring and now they work properly
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Picked up 3 rolls of Peel & Seal from Lowes today. Start on that next weekend.

Happy New Years guys!:)

[BEAST477]

Looks good Harbone. I'm sure it will look as good or better than your last few rides, and they were all sweet. 8)

[lively]

QUICK MARK---DID YOU SEE THOSE WORKBENCH CHAIRS HARBONE HAS IN HIS GARAGE ---MOPAR !!!!!!!

[Harbone]

You like those? The white one is actually pretty old, found it in a storage room at a Dodge store I used to work at. I got about 5 of the black ones, intended to build a bar but put in a pool table instead.

[lively]

I CAN'T SAY TOOOOO MUCH--I HAVE A V8 S10 SITTING IN MY GARAGE RIGHT NOW :oops: :oops: :roll: :roll:

BUT I DO LIKE THE MOPAR SEATS 8)

[TheYellaBrick]

'Bone, You're one of those typical hotrodders that just can't leave ANYthing alone for one single second ! :P :P :P :P

Looks like you found some 'shortcuts' from previous owners !
I hope the drive train is in better condition :D

It's always the stuff you can't see that can bite ya !

So are those stock or modified OEM bar stools ?

[Harbone]

Them barstools are stock!
I dont have to worry about the drivetrain, previous owner knows what he was doing in that department. He gave me plenty of receipts and a ton of photos he took while putting the motor together. I already scored a cluster housing with all the tabs intact from a guy. I just have to get the heat gun out and some patience to straighten out the dash warp. The paint and the engine compartment are beautiful so I had to do something with the interior. Thats one thing about living in Illinois, January through March is the best time to work on the warm weather toys :D

[Harbone]

Busy week at work and woop ars tired but I did a little work when I got home. Picked up some valve covers this week, GM Performance with holes and baffles so I can hook up a PCV hose. Plus they look good and almost match the car color of the car perfectly. Heres a pic of the valve covers that were on it, TIG welded drag race parts.
http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/1/64/24535641-812.jpg

Here is the new ones.
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It looks a whole lot better! Gonna start putting down the sound barrier tomorrow on the floor boards...

[TheYellaBrick]

GORGEOUS !!

Ever used Lizard Skin sound and heat insulater ? I've coated top and bottom of the floorboards in both my race cars and it 'REALLY WORKS' !
I brushed mine on, or you can use an undercoating gun.

Eastwood;

http://search.eastwood.com/search?w=Lizard+Skin&p=Q&ts=custom

Speedway Mtrs;

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/search-Lizard-Skin.html

[Harbone]

Actually DD I used a product called Peel & Seal from Lowes, its identical to Fatmat and about half the price.
http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/095959/095959062513lg.jpg
The stuff works great, use a wallpaper roller in the tight spots and it cuts easy with just a razor.
3 rolls knocked out the floorboards, gonna have to go buy 1 more tomorrow to do the doors and behind the back seat.
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So then I tore into the cluster, got a good deal on a housing with solid tabs and a nice lens. The temp, amp and fuel gauges are in surprisingly good shape. I will be ordering the oil psi gauge from Gaugemarks here shortly. The circuit board has some minumal delamination but everything still works so a good cleaning, some new screws and polish up the old screws and it looks pretty good!:)

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Hope to get the door panels off tomorrow and insulate them. Need to start on the dash warp too hopefully Sunday:D

[TheYellaBrick]

How thick is that Peel n Seal ?
Is it made to insulate(temperature) or deaden(noise)?
Am really enjoying the 'in progress' shots ! :D :D :D :D :D

[TheYellaBrick]

I just did some research on the Peel n Seal on the manufacturers website.
It doesn't appear to be a real affective insulator in it's mass, but reflects heat by it's lighter color and texture on the outside. I'm for sure going to get some to redo the roof on the 'Gearhead Motel' though ! Thanks for turning us on to it, 'Bone!

[Harbone]

The stuff works excellent, some guys on the NastyZ forum turned me onto it. Some people say they use a blow dryer or heat gun to make it more flexible but I never needed to use either, just some pressure and smart cuts. Heres a pic of the product Fatmat compared to Peel & Seal and they are identical.
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd180/1982corvettedude/DSCF3632.jpg

[qtrmile2]

Looks awesome. Alot of work to be done but it looks great. Nice job.
I know what your going thru it's definately alot of work but it's worth it when done.

[Harbone]

I like this kind of work though, hate body work, prep and paint. The car has great paint and the engine compartment is just a knock out. That makes me want to be as detailed as possible on the interior so it can match up the rest of the car! :D

[Harbone]

Worked on the dash curl about 2 hours this morning. Burnt the heck out of thumbs and forefingers even with gloves on. What a PITA, I got the big curve out of it and the vinyl glued back down on the fiberglass frame. Might heat it up one more time and try to get it don just a little more. Heres the before pics.
http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/8/16/24602168-080.jpg

http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/7/19/24602197-596.jpg

Here is what it looks like now.
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[lively]

BIG DIFFERENCE 8) 8)
HEAT PROBABLY RUINED THAT MANICURE--I JUST HATE THAT :cry: :cry:

[coolracing]

So how did that POR come of ur skin when you got it on ya! :lol:

[Harbone]

So how did that POR come of ur skin when you got it on ya! :lol:

I learned my lesson with the POR years ago, I always where gloves now! I have a few spots on my fingers that got there when I was cleaning everything up. It comes off after about 2-3 weeks. :lol:

[coolracing]

It comes off after about 2-3 weeks[/quote]


Ur not kiddin! It got me too!

[zipper06]

All the builders i know use the pors also and the peel and stick.

There are 4 builders within a 10 mi. rad of where i live, they all use the peel and stick insulation on their builds. I know of 10 builds now in progress, this is the latest build set to be delivered to the costomer on sun in New Orleans, the 1939 took 14 mos. The builder is my best friend Ronnie who owns the 1966 Biscyne drag car which built the eng. in and have posted pics. of. He also has a 68 and a 69 Camero in process. Hard to believe it's not his primary job, he's a state investigator for the Attny Generals office for auto fraud.

Zip.

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[Harbone]

thats pretty sweet Zip!!

[TheRabbit]

So how did that POR come of ur skin when you got it on ya! :lol:

Wish I would have read this yesterday!

It wasn't to bad to get off, but it's hard to get all of it out from around your fingernails.

I'm gonna wear some gloves today! lol

[coolracing]

We all live and learn Rabbit! Just most of us learn the hard way!

[lively]

BIG DIFFERENCE 8) 8)
HEAT PROBABLY RUINED THAT MANICURE--I JUST HATE THAT :cry: :cry:


IT IS VEEEEEERRRRRRY TOUGH ON THE NAILS AND YOUR OPEN CUTS :oops: :oops: :twisted:

[TheRabbit]

We all live and learn Rabbit! Just most of us learn the hard way!

I'm pretty dissapointed with the results. I put a good effort into doing it right. I stripped it to bare metal, primed it with self etching primmer sanded that with 1,000 grit and really took my time painting it. I made sure the frame was warm (70*+ all day and even left the big propane heater running for a while after I painted it) Some streaks in it, but that's not the problem.
I can scrape it right off with my fingernail. Some spots are hard as heck and perfect, but for the most part I can just scratch it right off.

I needed something pretty tough to handle getting muddy and dirty and mostly take the abuse of pressure washing it.

I'm gonna strip it and start over.


What really makes me mad is I spilled some on a dusty, oily workbench and you can't get the crap off. :evil:


I put some touch up spray paint on the back part of the frame last year and that stuff is so hard you can't hardly scratch it with a knife.

[TheRabbit]

Harbone. Sorry I hijacked your thread.
BTW car is looking good!

[Harbone]

Thats weird Rabbit, that stuff usually adheres to anything????

[coolracing]

X2 with Harbone! May have been to smooth with the 1000 grit and it has nothing to grab to... Like harbone said that stuff adheres to about anything. Also keep in mind P.O.R. is what it says (Paint Over Rust) it uses very little prep you want it clean but I think you may be to smooth rabbit!



X2 on the hijackin Harbone sorry!

[TheYellaBrick]

I've found that if the metal has a tad bit of porosity, any oils or silicones that have ever been on that metal will NOT allow paints to adhere properly. EXTREMELY aggressive metal prep is called for in those circumstances.

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[oldandtired]

Du Pont Prep Sol #3919S Cleaning Solvent

[TheRabbit]

Du Pont Prep Sol #3919S Cleaning Solvent

Would this be better than acetone? Which is what I used to wipe everything down.

Once I strip it down to bare metal again, should I prime it or just paint it with POR?
If I heat the frame before I paint it would it help make the paint tougher?

I sure wish I had the time to take the truck completely apart and get it powder coated.


Harbone sorry 'bout this. I can make another thread if you want me too.

[Harbone]

No worries Rabbit, this is how we all learn. My experience with POR over the years besides its impossible to get off my skin is it works best over bare metal with no primer. If the primer fails then the POR just falls off. I use rubbing alcohol to prep my surface. I have used it on old rusty wheelbarrows and mower decks and it always adheres like superglue. Make sure you are stirring it the whole time you are using the product, it has a tendency to seperate and settle. Also once the can is opened it starts reacting and heat makes it worse. If I have any left overs I transfer it to a different container, like a Mason jar and keep it in my garage fridge per the instructions on the can.

[TheYellaBrick]

Great info, Chris !
Nothing like sharing one's experiences.

[Harbone]

After getting all the staples out of the upper door panels I bought, I installed the new inner window felts. Use some soft clamps and riveted them back on. Worked pretty good! Also pulled the inner window guides off and replaced the worn out felts with the loop side of some velcro. Put some rubber hose on the inner door handle rod to try and de-rattle everything.
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Got my dash braces and inner sill plate covers back from sandblasting. Hung them up and gave a nice coat of paint. You wont see any of them but I didnt have much else to do this weekend.
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So why the paint was drying I started on putting the Peel & Seal on the inner doors. Got the heat gun out this time and it really helped making in stretch and stick to the contours. Turned out great!
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At a stand still now, waiting on carpet, interior dye, door panel clip kit and some other stuff from Heather and Pete and F-Body Warehouse. Have I said how great they are?!?!:)

[coolracing]

What kind of sound deadener
you using?

[TheYellaBrick]

Chris,

RE; your dash braces , kudos;

When I do any work on a nice car, I always make it a point to do nice craftsmanship in the areas that will never see the light of day. My theory is, that keeping the flow of good craftsmanship THROUGHOUT the car makes for good vibes. Even on clunkers and junkers I will deburr edges and round corners. It's called 'habit', and will be subconscious action when it really counts.

:D :D :D :D

[Harbone]

Its called Peel & Seal, get it at Lowe's. Same as FatMat but cheaper.

[lively]

i paint everything metal under my dashes silver or white---it makes things show up ALOT better when under there doing anykind of work 8)

[zipper06]

Chris, where did you get or what are you useing for the carpet and interior dye? My 1979 Elky was completely done in 1988 and the interior and carpets has sun fade and doesn't match the door panels, so i would like to put them back to when they where first done 23 yrs. ago.

Or anyone else who has an answer to this question.

Zip.

[Harbone]

Zip,
The dye I am going to use is called SEM, it uses a base color than a low gloss clear. I have researched it extensively and SEM makes the best! As far as the carpet goes, I really dont know what would work well besides just replacing it. Here is a video that shows how well the SEM works. The stuff is about $20 a can but its worth it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mMYl2sW0Zw&feature=player_embedded

[oldandtired]

i paint everything metal under my dashes silver or white---it makes things show up ALOT better when under there doing anykind of work 8)
x 2 lively. Any light present will be reflected.

[Harbone]

Zip,
After reading the SEM website, yes the Color Coat Flexible Coating dye will work on carpet and seat. Real light feather coats, about 5-6 total. I did my upper and lower door panels today and they look real nice. Plan on doing the lower dash tomorrow. Use in a well ventilated area cause it has some pretty potent fumes! :wink:

[Harbone]

Installed the carpet today, the company ACC makes the best preformed carpet kits! I only had to trim up in 2 spots. It runs way up the firewall too, last couple of carpets I have installed always had a gap below the heater core box. New door strikers and sill plates were also installed. Reinstalled the dash braces, lubes all the push-pull cables on the vents and heater controls. Hooked the tach lead up to the cluster wiring and just cleaned up under the dash a bit. Dyed my door panels and they look great!

http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/9/47/24975479-964.jpg

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[TheYellaBrick]

LOOKIN' GREAT Chris !! Don't ya just love it when a project comes together ?! I was going to mention ACC but had several 'senior days' in a row there and couldn't remember their name........

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Harbone]

Yeah Dwaine, great product!
Also the SEM interior dye is the best, I cant believe how good the door panels turned out.

[Harbone]

Took the dash to work today so I could take my time laying on the dye. looks pretty good! Hopefully I can start putting the door panels and dash back together this weekend.
Before
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After
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I still cant say enough about the SEM Color Coat dye, that stuff rules! :)

[lively]

DASH LOOKS GOOD !!! NICE WORK :lol:

[Harbone]

Got the dyed upper and lower door panels installed Friday night. Used my original lowers, the uppers and new center inserts I bought on the net. Took a while to get the centers lined up properly and I ended adding an extra screw or two to make everything right but they look great!
http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/6/09/25065096-932.jpg
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Started putting the dash back together. Took my time and tried not to scratch anything. After some cussing and a few scratch's on my hands the dash is in. It did give me time to put a new wire in for the factory temp gauge. I also couldnt decide what to do about the sending unit for the oil psi gauge. After looking at the Sun oil psi gauge I realized I could take the braided line off the Sun gauge and the electric sending unit screwed right on it! Its too tight with my headers to install the sending unit on the block so now I am just going to make a bracket and install the sending unit under the dash and wire it into the gauge. Heres some pics of the refreshed and dyed dash installed.
http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/0/13/25065130-980.jpg
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Cluster is assembled with the oil psi gauge, I bought some LED'sfor the 6 illumination slots in the cluster and WOW, what a difference!
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Finished up the lower dash and reinstalled my seat, not gonna recover those till late spring.

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[olds48]

Looks great harbone! Where did you get the LED's for the gauges? I hate dim gauges :evil:

[Harbone]

Looks great harbone! Where did you get the LED's for the gauges? I hate dim gauges :evil:

I picked them up from Advance Auto Parts, they are about $10 each but worth ever penny! I only used them in the "illumination" spots. I put 168 bulbs in all the rest of the spots, turn signals, bright lights indicator, dummy lights, etc.
I couldnt believe the difference!

They looked like this...

http://www.visionxwholesale.com/product_images/t/487/HIL-194W_vision_x_white_LED__63475_zoom.jpg

[olds48]

$10 each :shock: Well,that puts me outta the game. My 66 Pimpala has 21 bulbs total in the dash. Subtract indicators and I'm still looking at at least 15 bulbs! The woes of an 18" long speedometer :lol:

[Harbone]

$10 each :shock: Well,that puts me outta the game. My 66 Pimpala has 21 bulbs total in the dash. Subtract indicators and I'm still looking at at least 15 bulbs! The woes of an 18" long speedometer :lol:

Wow! Thats a lot of bulbs!
Now there is one downfall, LED bulbs will not work with the factory headlight switch fader. They are either on or off. I think they need 12 volts and anything below that must have a "pulse" type signal to dim the LED's. You can buy a LED specific fader but would have to hardwire it into the existing harness. The good news is they are bright, but its far from overpowering.

[Harbone]

Well got a few things done.
Replaced the RS style front bumpers with a new standard front bumper from NPD. Fit nice and didnt have to adjust anything.
http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/8/68/25259688-245.jpg

Removed thae air shocks and installed some new Monroes
Picked up a set of Z28 wheels and installed new BFG's with 255/60's on the back and 235/60's on the front. These are gonna be my driver wheels until I get the Bogart Fly Lites that were on it sold and look at getting some Vintique Rallys in 17"
Rolled her down the road and snapped some pics. I drove it maybe a mile but it feels a lot better than it did with the fat & skinny tire setup.
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Bought a used console, have to clean it up and dye it black. Think I am going to buy a rebuilt factory bump shifter and install it to make the interior look stock.
Needs to get warm out so I can give a good tuneup and take her on the maiden voyage. come on spring! :D

[olds48]

Looks good harbone. I think you got a good idea on the shifter. I have been wanting to put a 700r4 in my Impala but I havent been able to find an aftermarket shifter that suits me. Stock is hard to beat. I would love to have a column shift for my car,but I'll never find all of the pieces of that puzzle. Oh,I really like the new tire and wheel combo. I wouldn't touch it

[Harbone]

Looks good harbone. I think you got a good idea on the shifter. I have been wanting to put a 700r4 in my Impala but I havent been able to find an aftermarket shifter that suits me. Stock is hard to beat. I would love to have a column shift for my car,but I'll never find all of the pieces of that puzzle. Oh,I really like the new tire and wheel combo. I wouldn't touch it

I'm going to get some new trim rings and see how I like it. I kept looking at them all day and really am getting attached to the look!

[TheYellaBrick]

LOVE the orange / black with touch of chrome look !!!!

You going to do any suspension lowering ? It WOULD be more 'drivable' at the current height......

[Harbone]

I could lower it but if i want it 100% streetable I wont. If you look at that last side shot those big block, big tube headers hang down a bit. The roads out at my house are old blacktop with lots of dips and woops.
I like the stance right now, might throw some Hotchkis swaybars on her just to firm up the ride. Oh yeah, the wheels are dark grey. I was taking pics with my crappy camera. It makes the car look red in the pics, its as orange as orange gets!

[zipper06]

Chris. what did you use to clean the already dyed dash before re-dying it with the sem. My 79 Elky was dyed (when new) in 1988 and is now sun faded. the rest of my interior,seats, door panels and carpet are cloth/nylon, sun faded. I'm going to try to use the interior paint on them. The door panels are not sun faded so i have a color match to work with.

Zip.

[Harbone]

Zip if its just faded and not peeling off just scrub it down good with some enamel reducer, I rubbed mine down about 3 different times just to be safe. Apply the dye in real light coats. I put about 6 coats of black and then applied about 3 coats of the clear. I am still amazed at how everything turned out!

[zipper06]

Zip if its just faded and not peeling off just scrub it down good with some enamel reducer, I rubbed mine down about 3 different times just to be safe. Apply the dye in real light coats. I put about 6 coats of black and then applied about 3 coats of the clear. I am still amazed at how everything turned out!

Not peeling just faded.

Thanks

Zip.

[Harbone]

Long week, got home and pulled the car in the main garage. Changed the oil, replaced the spark plugs and installed my radiator overflow bottle
http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/0/98/25344980-343.jpg

Wish I would have taken some pics of the console before I started dying it. It was blue, had a few spots that needed repair vinyl, a 3M vinyl repair kit worked great. Used some Gorilla Glue to fix the cracked plastic at the rear of the console. That stuff works great! I have a rebuilt stock slap shifter coming and a new GM shifter bezel.

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Hopefully the rest of my shifter parts, console bucket and lid show up this week.
:D

[Harbone]

Trim rings cleaned up and installed. Car looks completely different than it did 8 weeks ago.

Before

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After
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Good night gentlemen :)

[RonOwensRacing]

Bone that car looks killer great job a lot of work but look at the outcome WOW love it.

[Harbone]

Thanks Ron!
In Illinois theres not much to do over the winter months but work on my car. Been at it the last 7 out of 8 weekends. I have been ebaying a bunch of my buddies Harley and car parts the last couple of months and made enough money to pretty much pay for all the parts I have purchased so far. The labor I enjoy and I like seeing the final results. Hopefully all the rest of my console and shifter parts will get here this week. The next big purchase is new seat upholstery. Cant wait to take her out on the first test drive soon!

[RonOwensRacing]

I bet you cant wait. at least it is getting warm now and you will be able to cruise her a lot i know i would you have done a fantastic job on it .
It is one to be proud of for sure.

[lively]

IT IS A SWEEEET CAMARO ---AND YOU HAVE ADDED ALOT OF YOUR OWN TOUCHES TO IT 8) 8)

[roadkill2]

Good looking ride . . You did good! . . .

[Harbone]

Thanks guys!!!!

I scored a rebuilt stock slap shifter for the Camaro. Picked it up on ePay from a place that takes them all apart, sandblasts and replaces anything worn out. They also rechrome the shifter handle. I was looking at aftermarket shifters but for $150 this shifter fits the bill.

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Heres the current setup, B&M Ratchet shifter in its own box.

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Doing a little mockup with the repaired and dyed console

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My biggest concern was that this car was originally a 4 speed and the hump is still there. I was happy that I just need to hammer down the left rear corner of the hump to get the stock shifter to line up properly with the console.

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Rear console brackets were drilled and sheet metal screwed to the floor

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Looks nice! I am waiting on a new console bucket, lid and a shifter cable. I just used a screwdriver in the B&M shift cable to pull it out of the garage. Hopefully the rest of my parts show up this week. :D

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[Harbone]

Well got back from vacation late Friday night and all my parts to finish the console were in the mailbox! Spent a few hours just making sure everything was lined up right. With the 4-speed hump still on the floor the console actually sits back about 1/2 farther than stock but you cant tell unless you look under the dash where I modified the mounting brackets. Looks good but the new OER console lid is a shade off so I will dye it next weekend. Hopefully I will get to take a maiden voyage next weekend.
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Starting a back deck remodel at home this week so the seat upholstery will have to wait till thats finished. Need to order a nice set but the material doesnt need to be original, any suggestions will help. Going to attempt to do the myself.
Heres some driveway shots, I am liking the stance, thought about lowering the front but I am afraid the headers are gonna hit if I do.
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[olds48]

Man,that console and shifter really set off that whole interior. I have never been a big fan of aftermarket shifters.I always considered them a necessary evil. That setup you did looks great!

[BEAST477]

Lookin' good Chris. Hopfully this weather stays like this so you can get it out soon.

[Harbone]

Well I got a GREAT deal on a set of front seats from a member on the NastyZ forum after I was just initially looking for some seat tracks. He had already put new comfortweave upholstery on them, dyed all the plastics and the tracks are in excellent shape. I took my old seats out Sunday and popped the new ones in. Now all thats left is to get some matching back seat upholstery and put in a new headliner.

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I did finally get to take her out for a short cruise Sunday afternoon. Been a long time since I have driven a car with a high rpm stall converter, takes some getting used to. But she drove great, nothing fell off, fell out, leaked, overheated or exploded! That big block has plenty of power and torque! I need to put a set of tailpipes on it though, dont like the exhaust drone with the mufflers dumping before

[Harbone]

I scored a set of rear PUI seat covers to match the front seats I purchased last week. Decided to try and do them myself. It was easier than I thought. I have to get a steamer today to get some of the wrinkles out but I am more than happy with the results.
Here is my original back seat (not original to the car since the covers were date coded 1978)

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The cushions and frames were in good shape. All of this took me about a hour and a half to do. I have done about everything on a car but never recovered seats.

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Here they are installed, I love the cottonweave seats and they are a heck of a lot cooler on a summer day than straight vinyl! Next and final step is a new headliner than the interior will be done and it will be time to add some tunes.
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[TheYellaBrick]

BEAUTIFUL 'Bone !
Anything left to do before cruuuuuzin time ?

[Harbone]

dwaine she's just about done, I am gonna take her out later today and stretch her legs a bit. I need to get to the exhaust shop next weekend and get some tailpipes installed, cant stand the exhaust drone with it dumping before the rear axle. I need a few spots touched up on the paint so she will probably head to the paint shop in a few weeks. I have 2 15x8 Corvette Rally wheels, have to find some 15x7's for the front. I want to powdercoat them orange, put dogdish hubcaps on and leave off the trim rings.

[Harbone]

Pulled the car out last Sunday, washed off a winters worth of dust and grime, gave her a little detailing. Installed my new reproduction center caps on the wheels and a set of front bumper "fangs" from Muscle Car Industries. Ordered a new car cover from California Car Covers. I thinks she almost ready for some car shows, cruise ins and maybe, just maybe a trip to the track!

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[Harbone]

picked up some 15x8 and 15x7 corvette rally wheels. had them powdercoated orange and just had some new tires put on today. went with a 275/60r15 on the back and a 235/60r15 on the front. hope to get them mounted up tonight and then will decide if i want to get some police style dogdish caps or just leave them plain, no rings, no caps?

I like the look! I am gonna have to roll the right rear fender lip, barely rubbed on a big country road dip.

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:cool:

heres a quick video walk around. I had my exhaust guy install 3" tailpipes last weekend to get the noise and drone out of the interior and it looks and sounds great!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khIxBA-PAss

[TheYellaBrick]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D LOVE IT !! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Harbone]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D LOVE IT !! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Thanks, I do too! Kinda has an old school look... :D

[BEAST477]

Looks and sounds great Chris. How long you gonna keep this one? :P

[Harbone]

Till somebody offers me stupid money for it :!: :lol:

[BEAST477]

Till somebody offers me stupid money for it :!: :lol:


I hear ya on that. :lol:

[TheRabbit]

Harb. you might want to check it out pretty good. Sounds like 2 or 3 spark plug wires are off :D

Looks and sounds really good.

I like some bling better for rims though :lol: . jmo, but I still like it alot.

[Harbone]

Harb. you might want to check it out pretty good. Sounds like 2 or 3 spark plug wires are off :D

Looks and sounds really good.

I like some bling better for rims though :lol: . jmo, but I still like it alot.

I am not a bling person, like the old school stuff. I will get grief from the purist about having vette rally's on a 2nd gen Camaro but dont care, I love the way it looks! :D

[RonOwensRacing]

Chris that is killer you have done a great job. I just love that thing.AWESOME

[TheYellaBrick]

Painted steelies just shout "RACE CAR!"
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[outlaw256]

oh DD only on roundy rounds. drag cars and street eaters use CRAGARs!!!!!. anyway bone im not a fan of camaros but i have to admitb your looks KILLER.NOW BROTHER THAT I SEE THE WORK YOU DO, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME VISIT A CRIPPLED UP OLD BIKER, I COULD KEEP YOU ENTERTAINED, WELL AT LEAST VERY BUSY! LOL

[Harbone]

Dont tempt me Ken! I have seen the pics of your toys and place on your profile and would love to come hang out with you! I might have to take the long way to florida next spring and swing by to finally meet you in person!

[TheYellaBrick]

Now if one of us would just hit the lottery we'd all have gas money to saddle up and meet at Kens for a BBQ or sumthin' !

[Harbone]

Well after searching for 3 weeks I found a nice set of licensed GM dogdish police style center caps. I thought it looked cool with the lug nuts showing but the caps make it just look sweet! 8)
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[bcw49]

More better !!!!!!!! :)

[TheYellaBrick]

It never ceases to amaze me how just changing a simple thing like hubcaps can completely change the demeanor of a car !
Just bare wheels screams RACECAR(greasy T shirt and torn jeans), and adding caps scream CRUIZER(3 pc suit and tie with eye candy on your arm).
I love the looks of this car both ways, 'bone ! The Orange with a little black and chrome and you've NAILED the stance perfectly 8) 8) 8) 8)
Now, how's it handle ? You done any lefty/righty stuff yet ?

[Harbone]

It handles better than I thought it would Duane, it has the large factory front sway bar and a Z28 rear sway bar. I am ordering solid bushings for the subframe along with some Heidt's subframe connectors this week just to tighten her up a little bit more. Next step is gonna be the Hotchkis TVS kit with front coils, rear springs and sway bars.

[TheYellaBrick]

Then a 4 point hoop, 5 point belts, on board fire suppression system, stickygumbo's on all 4 corners, YEAH ! Slap a number on it and "Let's go RACIN'!"
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Harbone]

Picked up the subframe connectors from the powdercoater Friday night. I also received my Global West solid subframe bushings. Sat down Friday night and put together some cribs.

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Got home Saturday night about 8pm and decided to knock out the subframe bushings. Did the back 4 with the car sitting on the floor. I did not loosen the bolts at the radiator support. My car had been taken apart about 15 years ago so lucky for me the bolts came right out. Put a jack with a short 2x6 at the front floorboard cross support. Took me maybe an hour at the most. Put the car up on the cribs this morning and knocked out the front body mounts on the radiator support.

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[Harbone]

Next was the Heidts bolt on subframe connectors. 4 holes drilled in the sides of the subframe and the rear attaches with a u-bolt through exsisting holes in the frame behind the front spring pearch. Plenty of ground clearance and no interference on the floorboards.

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I could tell an immediate difference, my whole dash and even the hood would shake like crazy at idle in gear. The car feels tight, my bushings were not that bad but the big block is on solid mounts with a pretty big cam and it shakes the heck out of the whole car. The dash and hood isnt jumping around

[dragonmaster093]

one sweet car bone and glad to see ya go with the flat caps just sets the rims off

[Harbone]

Took my spare cluster apart so I could paint the dial faces white

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Soaked them for a couple of days in enamel thinner, the blue backing came right off but the faces took some scrubbing
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I painted the faces with some semi-gloss white enamel and let them dry for a week.
There is a company called GaugeMarks that reproduces the stickers on gauge faces to an incredible detail. Camaros never came with white face gauges but he can make the stickers in any color you want. I can not emphasize the quality of their work and the excellent customer assistance they provide!

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If you are going to do these yourself I highly recommend watching Daniel's video on his website that shows you how to apply the new letters. Its a life saver!!!

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If I get some time in the next couple of weeks I hope to pull the cluster back out and swap in the new gauges.

[Harbone]

Had no plans last night so I took out my old gauges and installed the white face ones I made up last week.

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I wanted to put some silver on the dash bezel since it was solid black

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A steady hand and a Testors paint pen and I like how it turned out!

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Now the lens is back on the cluster and ready to go back in.

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With the LED bulbs the gauges really pop at night! The white gauges really break up the blackness of the dash and interior.

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[TheYellaBrick]

MAN what a difference ! Gorgeous ! :D :D :D

[fast75vega]

love the car color and the white gauges :wink:

[Harbone]

26 days of 90 plus degree weather in July, have not had much playtime with the Camaro. I did manage to snap a few shots last weekend...

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[Scooterz]

Harb:

I am a little late to this thread. Just saw it. Well done man. I really like the wheels... which got me thinkin'. Those are probably 8 to 10" rallys on the back right? Then 6 or 7" in the front approx right? They are regular rally wheels correct? paint to match body & obtain desired dish... like a COPO or derby, Corvette etc.... is that what you did? I want my Chevelle similar... was just going to do 8" or 10" in back then 5" Rallys in front (if i could get off set right) & not run beauty rings... w/ my favorite dish/cap... but I am still not totally sure yet. Your can looks perfect that way; all buisness & still mean looking. well done dude. Scoot

[Harbone]

Scoot,
The rears are 15x8 with P275/60R15 tires with a 4 1/2 inch backspace on the wheels. The fronts are 15x7 with P235/60R15 tires. I got lucky with the color and the local powdercoat shop hit the hugger orange on the head. I had to roll the rear fenders just a little to keep the tire from rubbing at full suspension squat. The hubcaps are GM licensed police style center caps, about $80 for a set.

[TheYellaBrick]

That whole car just 'WORKS'. It was a great base when ya got it, but your personal touch has raised it waaaay up there, Bone !
:D :D :D

[Harbone]

Thanks Duane!
She is slowly getting the way I want her. Finish up a few things here and there then start ordering some Hotchkis parts for the suspension as a winter project.
I still havent put any kind of stereo in the car yet, to busy enjoying the sound of the motor and exhaust! :D

[TheYellaBrick]

A car like that produces it's own music ! Ya just need tunes for when you're parked with the engine OFF watching submarine races up at the dam !
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[Harbone]

A car like that produces it's own music ! Ya just need tunes for when you're parked with the engine OFF watching submarine races up at the dam !
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

exactly :!: :!: :lol: :lol:

[dragonmaster093]

ta heck with pics lets have some vids

[Harbone]

Sam I have just one video that I shot a few months back of the car at idle. Here is the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=khIxBA-PAss

[dragonmaster093]

nice and nasty flow master 40s?

[Harbone]

yes sir, Flowmasters and 3" exhaust... :D

[TheYellaBrick]

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee293/Driver_of_Miss_DD/OrangeZ28withBABE.jpg

[Harbone]

Geez I must be getting old cause the first thing I thought when I looked that the pic was "C'mon Duane, my car isnt a Rally Sport..." :lol:

[dragonmaster093]

lol i was comparing yours and that one to make sure it wasnt the sasme lol

[Scooterz]

I must missed the fact there was a car in the picture???

[outlaw256]

DANG boys you trying to give me a heart attack...lol shes HOT....what car... harbone did check out them flowmasters specs before you put them on therr?compare them to some other hipo mufflers you might not like what you read about them. seems then can and do steal a few ponies from ya.but they do sound good on her.funnt aint it, when we were young the first thing we did to our cars was take off then ugly stock type wheel and a set of cragers would replace them with skinnys up front and some fat fat meat on the back. now they seem to go back to what we took off.but i quess its true what they say about me im stuck in the 70s.and i aint comin back! i do like the wheels on ther but i klnow for a fact id would have put then cragers on her.lol no matter she does look good!!!!!

[Harbone]

Outlaw if I could find a super clean set of old school Cragars I would slap them on. I love that look!!! :D

[outlaw256]

well what size do ya need? i run up on them once in awhile. i can keep my eyes out fer ya. i bought a set of 15 x 4 cragers awhile back gave 75 for them. was gonna have them re chromed but when i priced them they all told me atleast 180-200 a peice. hell i can buy brand spankin new 15 x 4.5 for 172. lol so we blasted them sent them out and had them powdercoated chrome. nosw they look like aluminum wheels and thats just the way we planned it.

[Harbone]

Took the Camaro out yesterday to a cruise in at the local aviation museum. Just before we arrived my tranny started acting weird, like the converter was grabbing and letting go. Left the cruise and got bout 5 miles before everything went to crap. Left a stop light and then there was nothing, tranny was no longer working, saw a puddle of fluid after I stopped. Popped the hood and saw that the trans dipstick tube was flopping around, it had came off the bracket thus letting a bunch of trans fluid pour out where it goes in the tranny. Called my roadside assistance and hauled her home.

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Called it a day and took the wife out to see a local band last night, had a blast and my ears are still ringing!
Popped the hood this morning and pulled out the trans dipstick, cheaps ass aftermarket unit with 3 spot welds holding the bracket on.

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Figure I got lucky, just ordered a new Lokar Dipstick, put some fesh fluid in and good to go!
So I drain the fluid just to make sure there was no metal floating around, fluid looked good but while I am under the car I start looking around and then I saw it, staring at me...

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Drivers side, starting at the edge of the bellhousing case and goes all the way to the top, toast, wasted, epic fail!

So shes heading to Performance Trans in Clinton Illinois next week. I hated the 3500 rpm stall on the street anyways so looking at a 2000-2200 stall thats more street friendly. Hopefully they can salvage most of my internal parts and just put them all in a new trans case.

:(

[wazup]

Bone you got that thing on solid mounts? I would like to know why and how it happen. I havnt seen a trans brake like that on to many street driven cars. I have seen guys at the track brake like that from having solid mounts on the engine and the trans with alot of chassi flex.

[Harbone]

Bone you got that thing on solid mounts? I would like to know why and how it happen. I havnt seen a trans brake like that on to many street driven cars. I have seen guys at the track brake like that from having solid mounts on the engine and the trans with alot of chassi flex.


It does have solid motor mounts. Not much chassis flex with the subframe connectors and solid body mounts though but the trans mount is poly. Its about a 500 hp motor and I have never had it to the track. Previous owner did but I put almost 2000 miles on her this year and have yet to really stand on it. Hopefully the trans shop will have some answers once they tear it down.

[wazup]

Sounds like its mount up right. I have seen them brake like that with solid mounts on motor and trans with alot of chassi flex. I wish you good luck and hope you find what happen.

[Harbone]

I need to check the trans mount and make sure maybe it didnt break or seperate. I was so frustrated when I saw the crack in the trans that I just lowered the jack, threw the car cover on and said "f#ck it"! :evil:

[Scooterz]

Yep... regroup when ready to face the bad news. That is a good size crack!!

[TheYellaBrick]

A Cracked Crackers Cracked Crackerbox ! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I CRACK myself UP !!!

[BEAST477]

That just sucks. Good luck Harbone.

[Harbone]

So after a week of stewing I decided just to pull that tranny myself instead of paying some shop to do it. Got out the cribs and my buddy had this great little trans jack he let me borrow.

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Got everything disconnected, removed the crossmember and realized, the rear mount and the lower right bellhousing bolt was the only thing holding the trans in place! The bellhousing was completely busted off at the front!:screwup:

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I guess it could have been a lot worse if it had grenaded! The torque converter splines were chewed up along with the splines on the input shaft. Gonna wait a few weeks and order a TCI Streetfighter Turbo 400 and TCI converter. After shopping around that looks like the best bang for the buck!

[wazup]

Dam bone sorry to here that but on another note look at everything real good something had to cause it to brake like that sorry to keep harping on it but hate to see you spend money on it and it happen agian. I wish you good luck as it is a very nice car.

[Harbone]

I was missing a bellhousing bolt and 2 of them were loose. Once I got the trans out, the rear mount fell apart and it was just a stock rubber one. I think it was a combo of all those things with the solid motor mounts, every time I laid in the throttle it was probably lifting the back up the trans putting a ton of pressure on the case. Motor mounts are all tight and solid, drive shaft/u-joints were fine. Those damn bell housing bolts could have been loose for awhile. :shock:

[wazup]

Loose bolts that sucks. When you mount the trans back up do not put a solid mount put back the rubber one. Check the drive shaft angle at the back of the trans. I have seen were steel mounts sit a little higher than stock. The way your car is sitting on the blocks you should see if the angle is out. I dont remember the correct angle at the back of the trans but sure there is someone on here that dose. Just tring to help so you dont go threw this agian, better safe than sorry. Love the car clean.

[Harbone]

Loose bolts that sucks. When you mount the trans back up do not put a solid mount put back the rubber one. Check the drive shaft angle at the back of the trans. I have seen were steel mounts sit a little higher than stock. The way your car is sitting on the blocks you should see if the angle is out. I dont remember the correct angle at the back of the trans but sure there is someone on here that dose. Just tring to help so you dont go threw this agian, better safe than sorry. Love the car clean.

I am planning on using a nice heavy duty poly mount on the back, better safe than sorry!

[dragonmaster093]

man that sucks sorry bone. will she back up be fore snows up to your a hole so you can cruise her a bit?

[Harbone]

She should be Sam, started price shopping last night and actually found a few private companies that make nice units for less than the TCI Streetfighter. One of the ladies on the DRAW Boards father owns J.W. Transmissions and she is working me up a price too.

[dragonmaster093]

sweet. guess ya shouldnt do those tests to see how the brakes hold under power lol. or was mama street racing with out ya? my wife used to drive my old gp and race it :shock: :shock: only reason i found out is " dear car making funny noise" then with a dloud of smike and a hardy bang no more 350 :cry: :cry:

[Harbone]

sweet. guess ya shouldnt do those tests to see how the brakes hold under power lol. or was mama street racing with out ya? my wife used to drive my old gp and race it :shock: :shock: only reason i found out is " dear car making funny noise" then with a dloud of smike and a hardy bang no more 350 :cry: :cry:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

My wife loves that car but would never get behind the wheel, that big block scares her to death!
I did get a hold of my old friend Jimmy from Sloans Transmissions in Havana Ill. Since the crack didnt get into the main housing he can cut the bell housing off, Install Ultra-Bell Bellhousing, replace anything that was damaged internally (which I think just involved the input shaft, pump and converter) and get me back on the road for about $850!!!
That made my damn day :D

[dragonmaster093]

nice atleast not thousands of dollars

[Harbone]

She might be down but she's not out. My only other forum "hangout" is NastyZ28.com and every year they have a calender car vote and the Camaro made it in this year as a month feature car! Here is the pic that I sent in.

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I have owned a lot of cars but never had one land on a calender before, kinda makes all the work worth while! :D

[TheYellaBrick]

'Bone, THAT car deserves a full on article done on it. IMHO.
How do we order that calender ? I want one !

:D :D :D :D

[Harbone]

'Bone, THAT car deserves a full on article done on it. IMHO.
How do we order that calender ? I want one !

:D :D :D :D

DD I will post the link up when they start selling them :D

[outlaw256]

bone, i seen one do that yrs ago in a 49 ford with a hi hp sbc. my buddy used those damn mr. gasket solid mountsa nd a rubber trans mount.what they came up with is that the mount let go on the tranny and since the motor was solid in there it couldnt move and the torque from the engine let the tranny try to twist. and bang. after they went back to poly mounts up front they never had another problem.this thing was pushin close to 600 hp.if that engine could have moved just a little (rubber) tyhe engine and trans would have moved togehtr instead of just the tranny trying to move all by itself.made sense to me.but i used to smoke alot of green stuff back then too! lol. i run a tci super streetfighter with a 3800 stall in our nova. love it. but ithought it was just a mite high priced, until i priced gettin a old 350 rebuilt with the right stuff.

[Harbone]

Dropped the trans off at Sloans Racing Transmission down in Havana today. I have known Jimmy Sloan since high school and he is one of the best racing trans builders in the state of Illinois. His specialty is Powerglides but he is just as good with any other automatic. Going to cut whats left of the bellhousing off and install a JW Ultra Bell housing, go through the rest of the trans and make it all good again. Hope to get it back in a week or two so I can get a couple more cruises out of her before the harsh reality of winter hits!

[TheYellaBrick]

Hope to get it back in a week or two so I can get a couple more cruises out of her before the harsh reality of winter hits!

Better HURRY !!!


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[Harbone]

Thats great DD! Here is what it looks like when it snows hard at my house...

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[TheYellaBrick]

Yep, gonna need to build a V8 sled alright !

:D :D :D :D :D

[Harbone]

This would work :!:

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[fast75vega]

this is how we do it here in buffalo....this was 1977...the city was short handed and contacted my dads uncle who owns a construction company... so my dad and the rest of the guys were out on 16 hour days cleaning this up with loaders and anything else that could move snow. when the snow started to melt ... people noticed there cars werent where they had left them... they were piled in the snow piles... they city ordered no on street parking the night before because of the storm coming in... they told the loader guys to clear the streets.... cars and all.... lol
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[wazup]

You guys can have all that snow. The florida sunshine "rainy state" i will take over the snow any day.

[MEMRACING62]

Dropped the trans off at Sloans Racing Transmission down in Havana today. I have known Jimmy Sloan since high school and he is one of the best racing trans builders in the state of Illinois. His specialty is Powerglides but he is just as good with any other automatic. Going to cut whats left of the bellhousing off and install a JW Ultra Bell housing, go through the rest of the trans and make it all good again. Hope to get it back in a week or two so I can get a couple more cruises out of her before the harsh reality of winter hits! As Im sure already know that's a common problem with stock F bodys even with frame connectors. solid mounts on engine makes it worse. I would go with the poly on the engine and stock on trans to allow it to move a little with the body flex. Im betting it started to crack before you bought it seeing you haven't been racing with it...get her back on the road....she's to pretty to sit!! :wink:

[Harbone]

Mike I am looking at the poly engine mounts, that big block shakes the hell out of everything at idle in gear! Once I get the trans back in the engine mounts will be a breeze to do without having to do a whole lot. take the carb off, use a lift plate and do them one at a time.

[Scooterz]

Harbonious:

LOL!!! Amazing how a cam can make so many little things rattle. You know how well a car is put back together when it has a lopey cam @ idle.... because everything rattles that is not buttoned up!!!! Had things like stupid interior clips, deck/pillar molding, etc... not pass the idle test in a few Chevelles. I like the poly mount idea too.

[Harbone]

Car has been sitting on cribs for 6 weeks now waiting to get my tranny back :(

Thought I might as well pull out the headliner, wasnt to bad and once I got all the moldings off it just pulled right off.

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Going to paint the moldings and dye the sail panels while I have it apart. That should be the last of the interior restore. :D

[outlaw256]

might want to roll some por 15 on that there roof....

[Harbone]

The pic is deceiving, its not rust just primer and some of the original brown paint. I have some time before the headliner will show up so I might just put some sound deadner up there.

[Scooterz]

"Bitchin' Camaro"... she has been massaged in just about every area. Very nice Chris... it would be hard to get rid of this one.

[Harbone]

I am starting to get pretty attached to her Scooter. Hell shes been sitting on the cribs for almost 2 months since I pulled the tranny out and I still take time to find things to fix, polish or just wipe the dust off of. I am hoping my trans gets back this week, I have a 4 day weekend so it would be nice to install the trans and take her for a cruise before the weather here turns to total crap.

[TheYellaBrick]

My request for in car video/audio of that 'test run' , is officially presented !

:D :D :D :D :D

[Harbone]

My request for in car video/audio of that 'test run' , is officially presented !

:D :D :D :D :D

Sir I will do my best to oblige you if she sees the road again before the snow hits the ground! :D

[Scooterz]

What is the trans/converter again? Ever figure out why the housing cracked? I love a nasty shift kit. A buddy of mine has a 2nd gen years back & the dash had huge crack down the middle from the damage of 2nd gear (jarred the whole dash to oblivion). Nice healthy tight chirp even in casual traffic. LOL... enough to spill a drink at least.

[Harbone]

It had a 3500 stall with a Turbo 400. Trans guy is rebuilding my case and installing a Ultra-Bell housing and that should keep that part from cracking again. I am putting a 2200 stall back in since the 3500 was way to much for a street car with 3:08 rear gears. The rear trans mount was broke, the vibration loosend the passenger side lower bellhousing bolt and the crack started there and worked it way across. Thank goodness I wasnt getting on her hard when it happened, could have been a lot worse! The trans already has a great shift kit, valve body setup and most of the internals were salvagable. Front pump was toast from the converter walking in and out for the short time I drove after the housing cracked. I hope my trans guy gets it done by Thursday, I have 4 days off with nothing to do so it would be nice to get her back together.

[Scooterz]

3:08's are nice all around driving gears... great on freeway too. I have 3:36 & they are fun w/ a 4spd (not too high/too low). Your pump- I wonder how much the actual pump has to do with the shift quality?? I have ridden in many cars with shift kits... some were just little jerk shifts & others were EPIC events when they shifted. I always wondered what makes them so different?? They were all fast shifting shift kits, but some the whole car would lunge forward into a huge shift & others just a little scratch. I wonder what makes them feel so different- I am sure torque, tight possi w/ gears etc... all contributes, but there has to be more to it than that. I didn't mean to hijack... I just always wondered about this.

[Harbone]

Most shift kits are based off making changes in the valve body. Making larger or smaller holes in certain passages in the valve body change fluid flow and change the shift rate. My car has a firm and hard shift at just partial throttle but I can leave hard in 1st and get the pedal almost all the way to the floor (trying to keep the back tires from breaking loose) but as soon as I hit 2nd it will will just tear the tires loose and I have to back outta the throttle to keep her from getting to loose. Roll back into the throttle and hit 3rd she will lay a strip down hard at about 75mph. I have had lots of small blocks, but the big block is just a huge torque beast!

[Harbone]

I installed the headliner, what a pain in the butt! It looks so much better, put in the new PUI visors and I dyed the quarter panel and sail panel trim while I had it all out. I still swear by the SEM dye, they look great. Also painted the metal A-pillar and upper trim moldings.

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Transmission should be back at the beginning of the week, cant wait its been over 2 months since she has been on the road.

[TheYellaBrick]

LOOKIN' GOOD Mano !

Yer gonna need snow tires for that test drive !

:P :P :P :P :P

[MEMRACING62]

LOOKIN SWEET!!

[Harbone]

Finally got the trans back, all fresh with the J&W Ultrabell housing. Changed the 3500 stall out for a 2400 to make it more compatible with street driving. Hope to get it back together over the weekend! :D

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[wazup]

Very nice, going to take a lot to brake that one! Good luck hope it works out good for you.

[TheYellaBrick]

YEEEHAAaaa...LOVE IT !

[Harbone]

Came home early, starting getting everything together to install the trans, pop open the torque converter box and damn, wrong converter! :evil:

Heading over to Winner Circle in Peoria tomorrow, hope they have one in stock or its gonna be another week before shes back on the road...

[TheYellaBrick]

Only one word....ARRRRRG !

[Harbone]

Scored a TCI Breakaway torque converter from Winners Circle

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The trans sitting on the tranny jack would not slide under the car from any angle so I set it on the creeper then lifted it up on the jack with some help from a friend

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Everything went together great and surprisingly easy, took my time, cleaned everything and Loctited every nut and bolt.

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Car is on cribs so the rear suspension is loaded, I do believe that the mystery broken trans has been solved. The driveshaft is to long! The yoke is all the way forward and I can not get the rear joint in, I could if the rear suspension was lowered but this tells me that I must have bottomed it out that day when the trans broke. :cry:

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I knew that Brian, the previous owner, had converted the car from a SB 4-speed to a BB Turbo 400. I bet he put it together on a hoist and just changed the yoke not noticing the difference in the yoke length. its a bummer but at least now I know what really happened, it had me baffled for a long time.

[wmeabates]

Chris,Some of the 400's have an o ring on the output shaft in past the yoke bushing,they use a yoke that the splines are resessed to let it slide over the o ring when going into the trans.If your's has an o ring on the output and the yoke has splines all the way to the end the o ring might be stoping it from going all the way in.Just a thought.Nice car.Bill.

[Harbone]

Bill thanks for the input, I double checked with my builder and the output shaft doesnt have the o-ring. I am dropping off the drive shaft in the morning to get it shortened. I was hoping to take her out for a cruise today, its almost 60 degrees out at 10am and would have been a great day for a ride.

[Scooterz]

Well done Harb... glad you payed attention to the length with suspension loaded & caught that!! BTW: you are braver than I to install a headliner... I have always feared them... she looks good.

[Harbone]

Well I am somebody! The NastyZ28 forum calender is finally out and my Camaro is the August cover car! :D

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[oldandtired]

Congrats!!!

[Harbone]

Well done Harb... glad you payed attention to the length with suspension loaded & caught that!! BTW: you are braver than I to install a headliner... I have always feared them... she looks good.

Scoot I figured what the hell on the headliner, I did a bunch of research online and just took my sweet time. I glued a small section and would let it setup and then move a little farther down. It took me a total of about 6 hours and I piddled around working on some other stuff while the glue was drying in each section. The only thing I would have done different was to maybe lightly iron the headliner before the install to get all the wrinkles out. It wasnt warm enough to lay it out in the sun that day. I did use a small steamer on a section and it worked fairly well. I am sure over time things will settle in. All the bows are tight and all the corners are secure so I was pretty happy with the results for being my first time installing one.

[BEAST477]

Congrats on the calander Harbone. 8) How many copies did you buy :?: :wink:

[Harbone]

I was not shy, ordered 12 of them, make great X-mas presents and still leaves 9 of them just for me! :lol:

[TheRabbit]

^^^^^^^^^^^

1 in EVERY room in the house and 2 for the garage! It's good to plan ahead

[Scooterz]

As usual, I take a while to "get it"... a little late to the party so to speak. I did not know that was YOUR car on that calendar... I thought it was a look-alike. I will tell my son it is actually YOUR CAR on that calender you sent... he will be excited.

[Harbone]

Scoot you had the wife in total tears! I read your pm before I saw this post and she was laughing so hard cause you didnt realize that was actually my car (hint: its says "harbone66" in the lower left hand corner) on the calender I sent to you and Riley! :lol:

Thats OK, we are all getting old, less attentive, deaf, blind, etc, etc, etc... :D

How did he like that Aarons Automotive Camaro?

[Scooterz]

The Aaron's Automotive Camaro is the icing on the cake to him... it is unique & he like the reverse tilt hood on it too. I would say next to the chrome COPO 69er' you sent; that one is his favorite next. All cars are in the package still & he has them locked in his fire proof safe. Riley likes them- he says you are his "Santa from IL."

The outlook on the world to child's eye is very small... he does not realize how big it is to car a car in a catalog like that... he asked me if "any of my other friends had a car in there?"

Tell you wife that I have been beat in the head a lot lately & it take me awhile to get it. LOL.

[TheYellaBrick]

'bone, PM sent

[Harbone]

The driveshaft is fixed and the new valvebody is installed, it has 2nd and 3rd now but wont shift till way late! Looked at the vacuum modulator and its a single red stripe stock one, that wont work with my car since it only pulls about 9" of vacuum at idle. So I ordered a low vacuum modulator and hope that solves the problem.

[Harbone]

I found a complete 1LE front brake conversion on craiglist, got it all for $100! The guy put it all together about 6 years ago, mocked it up on his car and then liofe changed for him. the sad thing is the brand new rotors are probably rusted beyond repair but he threw in a set of brand new calipers, brake pads and brake hoses. I dont need the pads and calipers so will just probably resell them. I remember someone posting up the lower ball joint holes in the spindles may be bigger but so I need to check mine to see if they are the same size.

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Well after installing the new valve body and vacuum modulator at over christmas weekend, the weather finally got nice so I could see if the trans was working better. It does finally shift but really late, unless I get the rpms up around 3-4K it wont shift. So at least I know all the gears do work. I called my trans guy and he says to take a look at the governor. I will mess with it later.
I did buy myself a bunch of goodies for the car at the end of December so it was a good day to tinker. First new front and rear sidemarkers along with some LED bulbs. The OER markers are nice built units, I also ordered new brackets and nuts. What a world of difference, nice and bright!

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Next was the rear window moldings, mine were scratched up pretty good on the edges, almost like someone left them on when sanding the car. My back window is scratched up too but that will be replace in the spring. Having the correct trim removal tool makes this a breeze. You can see a lot of the scratches on this piece.

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The new moldings went on real easy and fit good.

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Next is the vertical B-pillar moldings, mine were pretty pitted. I pulled out the seal and started on taking them off.

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Now I couldnt figure out why the screws were painted orange? The rest of this car had beem completely taken apart when painted, so I got curious and decided to take off the upper weatherstrip channels and drip rails. Low and behold after a year of looking at every inch of this car I think I found the original color, blue! Looks like they painted the car with the channels in place and then replaced them since they look pretty new. My cowl tag was long gone when I got the car so the original color has always been a mystery.

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Original moldings were pretty pitted.

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I also noticed the paint looked pretty nice under the drip rails so I decided to take both sides off, nothing wrong with them, I think it just looks cleaner. So I mocked up the new B-pillar moldings, they fit weird at the top so I ground an 1/8" off and then they fit perfect.

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Now reinstall the upper channels, tuck in the weatherstrips and we are done! I think it looks better without the drip rails.

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I also ordered some LED tail light inserts from Matts Classic Bowties. Turns out they are direct shipped from a company called North West Mustang in Oregon.

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When I contacted them to find out what was taking so long, the owner Larry contacted me personally to say they had just redesigned them with more LED's and they will be ready in 2 weeks. I then asked about getting a second set so I could convert my reverse lights to park/brake lights he said that he would send me the second set for free if I sent him pics and video of my install, SCORE! I told him no problem. So I found a used second set of park/brake light lenses and I have them all ready for install, just waiting on the new LED boards to arrive, cant wait!

Old setup

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Mocked up with new seals, just waiting on new LED's

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[TheYellaBrick]

I just LUUUUV 'personalizing' a semi 'stock' body style. Example was the 3 tailights Stingrays.
That HOT ROd is looking GREAT 'Bone !

:D :D :D :D :D

[Scooterz]

Harbonious!!

Man you motivate me on even the small things... such as LED's... they are nice looking. All those details... they all add up to a quality nice ride all-the-way-around. No one like being at a cruise & seeing an awesome car that has one dim/burnt out tail light.... or one muffler lower than the other... or a piece of missing molding. That car is nice. well done on all accounts.

[Harbone]

Finally took the trans governor out today, got a new one and a B&M weight and spring mod kit. Took 2 times taking it out, changing the weights and reinstalling but she finally shifts correctly!

Starting on the tail light mod, hope to see the LED boards in the next week or two, Still need to put in the floorboard courtesy lights and the glove box light. Spring is coming and I am ready to cruise!
:D

[Harbone]

Managed to have a few beers and tinker with the car this weekend. My inner door window felts that I installed last spring had started to pop off, rivets were to short so I took the panels off and drilled out the rivets. I used 1/8" wide and 1/4" grip rivets this time and they seemed to hold a lot better. I am still waiting on the LED brake light kit for the tail lights but went ahead and spliced in the new sockets, looked for any worn, chaffed or brittle wires in the harness and fixed everything along with cleaning up any ground points. Now it has 4 park/brake lights across the back. Hopefully the LED boards will be here soon but with everything cleaned up all 4 lights have the same brightness now.

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I had also purchased a footwell courtesy light harness and housings.
My car never came with them so I thought it would be a nice touch. I also learned that I am getting to old to be squeezing up under the dash with the front seats still installed!
They look good but I might have to go buy some LED bulbs to make things just a tad brighter.

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[TheYellaBrick]

Back in my High School days, I installed RED clearance lights under the dash for those nights of watching the 'submarine races'...
`:lol: :lol: :wink: :wink: :wink:

[BEAST477]

Lookin' good Chris. I hear about not being young enough to crawl under the dash anymore. I've got everything out of mine right now for the rewire and decided to repaint the rollcage. Ouch, am I ever sore. It's like playing twister on the monkey bars and I'm too old for that. :lol:

[Harbone]

I had an issue with the drivers side front turnsignal not working properly, turns out the socket was broke. So I ordered a new set.

I received the new front turn signals today, they are OER units and very well made

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Remove the stainless trim off my old signals and polished them up

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The one complaint I have with the new OER units is the stainless trim did not want to fit well through the curved part of the lamp. They seem to be molded a little wide in that area of the lens. I had to carefully take my Dremel and remove about 1/32" of an inch of the lens at that spot to get the trim to fit right.

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The fit is real nice, I need to take the drivers side one back out and bend the mounting brackets just a tad to level it off in the opening

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[MEMRACING62]

Lookin great chris!! :wink:

[TheYellaBrick]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Harbone]

The new LED boards came in today, I got these from Larry at ClassicLED's in Eugene Oregon. He just finished designing these new units. They look to have about 94 LED bulbs per board.

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These are 2 brake/parklamp kits since I removed my backup lenses and put brake/parklamp lenses in their place. Lay the boards in the tail light flat and use clear silicone adhesive to hold in place.

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The 1157 style connectors let you plug them right in and you are done. No other wires.
He does sell a sequential set that has to have a wire run up to the brake light switch and the LED's flow left to right and vise-versa when the turn signals are on.

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Here is a video link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkj8niBctKM&list=HL1362269673

[TheYellaBrick]

Thems purty 'Bone ! :D :D

[BEAST477]

Lookin' good Harbone. 8)

[hammertime]

Nice job !!

[Harbone]

Thanks guys, they are a great "bolt in" product and a huge improvement over the stock 1157 bulbs. Its a nice setup, his original boards had half the amount of LED's. He hooked me up so I told him that I would post up his info for anyone that is interested in buying his products. He makes a bunch of LED kits for a lot of different cars. His name is Larry Bush and this is the link to his website.

http://classicleds.com/

He is a great guy and knows the meaning of customer satisfaction and appreciation!

[TheYellaBrick]

'Boots Camaro' shows off her new headlight treetmant.....

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee293/Driver_of_Miss_DD/BootsCamaro_zps1dd6b208.jpg

[Harbone]

Damn, gotta love Texas women!!! :shock:

[Harbone]

She is up for sale or trade!

:D

[Scooterz]

Boots what??? I didn't even see a picture of a car.....

[Harbone]

Well this thread is officially over, I sold her tonight to a great guy named Brad that lives in Indiana. This is the last time I saw her heading east out of my driveway

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So now time to start searching for a new toy :!: :D

[TheRabbit]

Well this thread is officially over, I sold her tonight to a great guy named Brad that lives in Indiana. This is the last time I saw her heading east out of my driveway

http://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.racingjunk.com/ui/3/69/30747693-132.jpg

So now time to start searching for a new toy :!: :D

I liked this one. I'm gonna report it stolen and hope we get it back!!!!

[Harbone]

Well this thread is officially over, I sold her tonight to a great guy named Brad that lives in Indiana. This is the last time I saw her heading east out of my driveway

http://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.racingjunk.com/ui/3/69/30747693-132.jpg

So now time to start searching for a new toy :!: :D

I liked this one. I'm gonna report it stolen and hope we get it back!!!!


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[BEAST477]

I knew it was just a matter of time and the right size checkbook. :lol:

So now what will you get :?:

[Swiley383]

I don't think I could have let that one go.

[Harbone]

I knew it was just a matter of time and the right size checkbook. :lol:

So now what will you get :?:

Don't really know, money isn't burning a hole in my pocket just yet :D

[TheYellaBrick]

And ya never got to hit a single cone with it !
Typical car guy, get to a 'point' in a build and get sidetracked into something new. :P :P :P I'm happy that your happy, but it'd be real tough to let that one slip outa my grasp ! Was great fun watching your transformation, 'Bone !
Looking forward to the next victim !