Buyer Beware MSTOUT

[will547]

Bought a car from Mike Stout based on his photos and description of the car. Ad Number 2308038. Ad says runs and drives great drive anywhere. Shipper delivered the car and said it had a radiator leak and was out of water. Mike told the truck driver he needed to put water in the car when he delivered it. Really I have never heard of it being the shippers responsibility to do anything but deliver the car. How does the car run and drive great drive anywhere as stated in the ad with no water in the radiator. Car barely ran and was missing like it was running on three cylinders when teh car was delivered. After repairing the radiator. Changing the carb, replacing the Leaking valve cover gaskets, New plugs, New wires, Distributer that had a bad pickup coil. Neither of the interior door handles would open the door have to open both from outside, The hood latch was missing, The temperature gauge was hooked up backwards, Both drivers side door hinges where bad and door drops down two inches when the door is opened, Front bumper only has one bolt in it and if you push down on the bumper it will hit the ground and does not turn over half the time with the key on the column. These are just the high points on a car that I paid 12K for that may be worth $7500. So as you can see the ad is no where close to being the truth on what the guy is selling. Called to let him know what I thought about the car. I was nice and calm about it. He just told me to get screwed and too bad I should have come up and looked at the car. That is really what I expected. Most folks when they know they screwed you and you call them out the get defensive because they know they LIED. Anyway just thought I would share this with who ever may want to hear it. [/b][/color][/u]

[bixblk]

Thanks for the heads up, he has other ads on racingjunk, good info to pass along to potential buyers.

[bbchevy]

Mike was just Here LOOKING around @ 11:30 am Sunday 10-23-11
Guess He didnt see ANYTHING He LIKED?
O'Well I sent Him a PM,and asked him to Respond?
Later
G :?

[sirswapsalot]

That guy screwed me on a orange nova....said it was super clean inside and out......
when we traded it was sleeting and snowing real bad, i was 5 hours away and didnt want to get stuck up there so made the trad quick.....
the paint looked great so i hurried and took his word (my dumb A$$ fault)

i got the car home and it was so bad underneath it didnt have a rear frame at all, it was all homemade with channel, real shitty job, the springs were welded to the floors,

thats what i get for taking someones word, i called him and said we will never do buisness again and he said no prob there is other suckers out ther...
hell get his one day

[will547]

Mike said he never screwed anyone and had been doing business for 30 Years. What I believe he meant to say was he has been screwing folks for 30 years. I like to believe I can take folks for their word but that is just not the case with some these days. What I have learned if you are buying from someone who makes their living from buying and selling on here then they are more than like Lieing about what they are selling.

I also see a lot of feedback from other RJ members that seem to think because you have made an honor payment that makes you OK to deal with. I see Mike has made a couple of payments.

I have bought from a lot of RJ members and they are not all worthless. :D :D :D

[gmanxss]

YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT GUYS THAT BUY AND SELL ON HERE. I DO IT ALL THE TIME AND DO NOT HAVE TO TELL A LIE TO DO BUSINESS. THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD, HONEST PEOPLE ON HERE. IF PEOPLE WOULD USE ALL THE RESORCES TO CHECK PEOPLE OUT AHEAD OF TIME SCAMMERS WOULD BE OUT OF BUSINESS.I HAVE NEVER BEEN SCAMED BECAUSE I DO NOT ALLOW MY SELF TO BE, SO DON'T CALL ALL THE TRADERS ON HERE LIARS.

[fast75vega]

YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT GUYS THAT BUY AND SELL ON HERE. I DO IT ALL THE TIME AND DO NOT HAVE TO TELL A LIE TO DO BUSINESS. THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD, HONEST PEOPLE ON HERE. IF PEOPLE WOULD USE ALL THE RESORCES TO CHECK PEOPLE OUT AHEAD OF TIME SCAMMERS WOULD BE OUT OF BUSINESS.I HAVE NEVER BEEN SCAMED BECAUSE I DO NOT ALLOW MY SELF TO BE, SO DON'T CALL ALL THE TRADERS ON HERE LIARS.

well said but i dont think thats what they were saying.. :)

i love when someone asks about if anyone has done business with a particular seller in here and then all of a sudden there is few responses from people who just happen to sign up and post that they have done business with said person and they are good people.....lmao i think the scammers are getting smarter..... :lol:

[sirswapsalot]

Just because someone buys and sells (or trades) alot on here does not mean they are not telling the truth, as u can tell by my profile name
(sirswapsalot) i like to trade, i have traded with over 20 guys on here
and have been honest with all of them, never had a bad rapp about me, some of us do it as a hobby others a way to make a buck.
Its just a shame some guys (mstout and others) ruin it for us honest guys,

we are just going to have to do are homework and look a little closer at the next deal...lol

i got burnt by mstout and called him out on it, thats it, i wrote his name (profile name) down and just wont do buisness with him again, just add him to the list.

[sirswapsalot]

Thanks for the heads up, he has other ads on racingjunk, good info to pass along to potential buyers.

that orange nova that he has on his profile pic is the one he got me on...looks good hugh, i dont know if he got it back but stay away from it, like i said they welded the springs to the floor, there is a homade rear frame out of chanel, junk

[will547]

Never said all the RJ folks where Liars

But you can trust me I have dealt with enough to know there are a lot of Sorry SOB's on here.

[will547]

Looks like some folks just can not read.

Or maybe by the sound of it someone may be offended by the statement.

What I have seen is usually when someone is screwin you and they are called out on it they get pretty damn defensive.

[will547]

That guy screwed me on a orange nova....said it was super clean inside and out......
when we traded it was sleeting and snowing real bad, i was 5 hours away and didnt want to get stuck up there so made the trad quick.....
the paint looked great so i hurried and took his word (my dumb A$$ fault)

i got the car home and it was so bad underneath it didnt have a rear frame at all, it was all homemade with channel, real shitty job, the springs were welded to the floors,

thats what i get for taking someones word, i called him and said we will never do buisness again and he said no prob there is other suckers out ther...
hell get his one day

YES HE IS A REAL ASS WHEN YOIU CALL HIM OUT

[will547]

Just because someone buys and sells (or trades) alot on here does not mean they are not telling the truth, as u can tell by my profile name
(sirswapsalot) i like to trade, i have traded with over 20 guys on here
and have been honest with all of them, never had a bad rapp about me, some of us do it as a hobby others a way to make a buck.
Its just a shame some guys (mstout and others) ruin it for us honest guys,

we are just going to have to do are homework and look a little closer at the next deal...lol

i got burnt by mstout and called him out on it, thats it, i wrote his name (profile name) down and just wont do buisness with him again, just add him to the list.

I UNDERSTAND. I HAVE ONE OF THOSE LISTS AS WELL, :cry:

[gmanxss]

WILL, MABY I MISREAD WHAT YOU SAID, IF SO I AM SORRY BUT BLANKET STATEMENTS ARE USUALLY WRONG OR MISSLEADING.

[will547]

WILL, MABY I MISREAD WHAT YOU SAID, IF SO I AM SORRY BUT BLANKET STATEMENTS ARE USUALLY WRONG OR MISSLEADING.

NO PROBLEM HAVE A GOOD ONE

[will547]

YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT GUYS THAT BUY AND SELL ON HERE. I DO IT ALL THE TIME AND DO NOT HAVE TO TELL A LIE TO DO BUSINESS. THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD, HONEST PEOPLE ON HERE. IF PEOPLE WOULD USE ALL THE RESORCES TO CHECK PEOPLE OUT AHEAD OF TIME SCAMMERS WOULD BE OUT OF BUSINESS.I HAVE NEVER BEEN SCAMED BECAUSE I DO NOT ALLOW MY SELF TO BE, SO DON'T CALL ALL THE TRADERS ON HERE LIARS.

well said but i dont think thats what they were saying.. :)

i love when someone asks about if anyone has done business with a particular seller in here and then all of a sudden there is few responses from people who just happen to sign up and post that they have done business with said person and they are good people.....lmao i think the scammers are getting smarter..... :lol:

THEY ARE GETTIN SMARTER EVERYDAY NO DOUBT AND THEY ARE RUNNING IN PACKS.

[sirswapsalot]

One way to look at this, it makes us a little smarter on the next deal.....

i said my peace (about mstout) just want to tell everyone good luck on your next deal and stay safe,

maybe we can start using this forum to do are home work, but like its been said they are catching on.

good luck guys :)

[gmanxss]

VERY TRUE, NEW SCAMS EVERY DAY. IF ANYONE EVER NEEDS INFO ON SOMEONE IN NORTH GA OR SOUTHERN TENN JUST LET ME KNOW. IF I DON'T KNOW THEM I WILL KNOW SOMEONE WHO DOES. ALLWAYS DO YOUR HOMEWORK.