Beware of Novaking35 (Mike Lay)

[mmcgaha]

Traded me a truck with a motor in it that was nothing he said, didn't have any of the parts he claimed in it. Have emailed him several times and no reply. He is in Oklahoma.

[mopar1968]

Was it on Rj ? If so what was the ad # ?

[bjuice]

as Mopar indicated post up some information..We do not have Crystal Ball....also tell us what you are after ( Wanting to Accomplish).

thanks

[novaking35]

wtf are u talking about i dont even know who u are ..... ive never sold a truck on here ....

[mopar1968]

Now this is interesting :!: You sure you have the right name :?:









Mark

[novaking35]

i a traded a truck to a guy last year like febuary ... it was every thing i said it was turn key injected drag truck for a roller camaro

he showed up at 15* weather ....like feb and i still busted it off and let him look at all he wanted sent pics of every detail .... and let him play with it all he wanted offerd to pull valve cover anything he wanted

but this could not be the guy tht was a year ago ...talked to him after he got it home 2 times he loved it ...no more phone calls or messages were made or recieved ???

must be a digrunteled offer maker

i admit iam a lil ruff to guys who make dumb ass offers lol but that dont make me a scammer

[mopar1968]

Ok mmcgaha ball is in your court :!: :!:









Mark

[novaking35]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

cant find nothing in my messages phone call is on my adds and my racing junk space

[mopar1968]

I messaged him asking him to come over here :!:










Mark

[novaking35]

is he online

[novaking35]

thanks mopar guy for lettin me know

[MEMRACING62]

I messaged the o p on rj asking him to return to the forum & tell his side.

[novaking35]

here is my add as copied of racing junk last year

ORIGINAL TEXT EDITS ARE NOT PERMITTED
93 red chevy short wide pickup with a 468 BBC 289 casting 4 bolt block 13.5.1 alcohol anderle injected birdcatcher hat.The motor has PORTED 781 iron heads with 194 spring good to 750 lift with 2.25 valves roller rockers with a 722 ultrdyne solid roller cam with vertical bar bullets lifters with pete jackson gear drive.Headers are big tube with evac system with 3in exhaust to turn outs.msd 6al and dizzy .Trans is th 400 with manual valve body fowared [pattern 4800 stall both are rebuilt last year by boggs .It has 6 pt roll bar matching bucket seats.The rearend is a ladder bar 12 bolt with 456 gears.Ive got a 3in cowl hood that is black that goes with it endrle 80a belt drive ....the pills in the nozzles are .38 and i think the return pill was a .48 cash or trade has title WILL TRADE FOR VERY NICE TRANS AM OR Z28

IF THIS IS THE TRUCK WHAT WAS NOT IN THERE ?????? IF THIS IS THE TRUCK AT ALL ?????? WTF

[mopar1968]

He has 2 truck's in his profile ,one black and one red :!:









Mark

[novaking35]

:roll: :shock: :shock:

id its red swb its been a year and there is the add wtf was not in it

[mopar1968]

That is a nice looking truck :!: Has a injector hat on it :?:









Mark

[novaking35]

http://www.racingjunk.com/gallery/profile/159244/332092

that pic was taken at my house he just needs to stfu lol bitching a year later is just being a bitch

[MEMRACING62]

this guy inspected the truck in person....makes the deal , & takes a year to complain on a forum about it....hmmm. :roll: :roll:

[novaking35]

i sent videos and 30 pics and every thing i knew about it i posted the add

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oVmd3D2g4c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlfrD3DONn0

and he played with it listened to it had all the time he wanted and needed

takes it home calls me to tell me how much he loves it and how he did a nasty burn out

good deal another happy racer then boom a year later i get this

maybe he could not go 6.50s lol he was bragin about the big glide he had waitin for it with a brake bla bla bla

what ever

[mopar1968]

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm174/196814/chevy1.jpg



This is the truck right :?:






Mark

[novaking35]

yeah that is my my garage my 78 elcamino takin at my house shortly before he traded me his roller camaro

that pic was taken like dec 09 and got it shortly after

[novaking35]

here is my add as copied of racing junk last year

HERE IS THE ADD AS POSTED JAN/FEB

ORIGINAL TEXT EDITS ARE NOT PERMITTED
93 red chevy short wide pickup with a 468 BBC 289 casting 4 bolt block 13.5.1 alcohol anderle injected birdcatcher hat.The motor has PORTED 781 iron heads with 194 spring good to 750 lift with 2.25 valves roller rockers with a 722 ultrdyne solid roller cam with vertical bar bullets lifters with pete jackson gear drive.Headers are big tube with evac system with 3in exhaust to turn outs.msd 6al and dizzy .Trans is th 400 with manual valve body fowared [pattern 4800 stall both are rebuilt last year by boggs .It has 6 pt roll bar matching bucket seats.The rearend is a ladder bar 12 bolt with 456 gears.Ive got a 3in cowl hood that is black that goes with it endrle 80a belt drive ....the pills in the nozzles are .38 and i think the return pill was a .48 cash or trade has title WILL TRADE FOR VERY NICE TRANS AM OR Z28

WHAT WAS NOT IN IT ?????????????????????

IF THIS IS THE TRUCK WHAT WAS NOT IN THERE ?????? IF THIS IS THE TRUCK AT ALL ?????? WTF

[novaking35]

WELL SPIT IT OUT MAN WHAT ARE U WAITING ON

[mmcgaha]

First off it says 4 bolt main and is 2 bolt 289 casting. told me it had JE pistons in it and are trw, suppose to be eagle crank & rods and are gm i beam rods and cast crank. Pick up the truck in March and went all the way to him. Went to freshen motor up and what a suprise! Make sure it is what you say. That is why i am bitching, you lied , because you didn't know at all what you had!!!!!!!!

[novaking35]

BS NEVER STATED JE PISTONS NEVER SAID IT HAD EAGLE ANYTHING


SO DID U JUST NOW SNATCH IT APART ????????????

I CALL BS POST A EMAIL POST ANYTHING WHEAR I SAID ANY OF THAT

[novaking35]

DO IT OR STFU

[novaking35]

POST A PIC OF THIS 2 BOLT 289 CASTING 454

[mmcgaha]

I was going to freshen motor up, is how I found this. You can say what you want, but you said Je pistons & eagle crank rods. I just want people to know that you lied. So I will be finished now but you can finally STFU you crook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[novaking35]

BULL SHIT CRY ME A FUCKIN RIVER

NEVER SAID IT HAD EAGLE OR GE ANYTHING

ID BUT MONEY U DONT EVEN HAVE THE TRUCK OR MADE 1 SINGLE PASS

I BET U TOLD THE NEXT GUY IT HASD ALL THAT SHIT IN IT AND HE TORE IT DOWN GO FUCK YOUR SELF U LIL FUCKIN WEASLE

[novaking35]

FURTHER MORE U NEVER CALLED OR EMAILED ME NOT 1 TIME

NOT WITH ANY BAD OR UNHAPPY STORIES

YOUR A BULLSHIITER AND A LIER AND A JACK ASS

[novaking35]

is this were i post a scammer bs alert on mmcgaha to not trade sell or do anything with him becuse he will come back a year later and cry and make up stories :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :) :) :) :D :D


:roll: :roll: :roll: :!: :!: :!: :!:

[mmcgaha]

You can post what you want, it's kind of funny that you are getting so mad, but you say you did nothing wrong. Must be feeling guilty.

[novaking35]

This is mike's wife and i was present the entire time the guy was here ....he was givin as long as he needed to inspect run, and give the truck a through inspection and to do anything he wanted he was not told anything that we did not know or were not aware of. I along with my husband do not appreciate his name being drug through the mud on this at all. A YEAR LATER NO LESS And as for him calling, it simply did not happen all we heard from the guy was how much he loved the truck and was impressed with the entire deal. It's kinda like feeling that you got screwed somehow in some way and complaining about it a year later ....what good does that really do if you were unhappy with the truck in any way you would of been more than welcome to come park it back in out garage. I loved that truck it was bitchin......if it was mine and i was so unhappy with it ...while it was apart i would be putting the motor together how i wanted it. Thats exactly what we had to do with the camaro that we received it was suppose to be ready to go countless hours later it was ready to go and we did not complain we made it the way we wanted it....we liked that truck alot and if your SO unhappy with it still i will make you an offer right here and right now get it back together and bring it and take the GTO in the garage home but dont make a complaint a year later OK mike is not mad about the deal he is only mad his name was ran into the ground over a illigenament complaint.

[Scorpion1110]

This is mike's wife and i was present the entire time the guy was here ....he was givin as long as he needed to inspect run, and give the truck a through inspection and to do anything he wanted he was not told anything that we did not know or were not aware of. I along with my husband do not appreciate his name being drug through the mud on this at all. A YEAR LATER NO LESS And as for him calling, it simply did not happen all we heard from the guy was how much he loved the truck and was impressed with the entire deal. It's kinda like feeling that you got screwed somehow in some way and complaining about it a year later ....what good does that really do if you were unhappy with the truck in any way you would of been more than welcome to come park it back in out garage. I loved that truck it was bitchin......if it was mine and i was so unhappy with it ...while it was apart i would be putting the motor together how i wanted it. Thats exactly what we had to do with the camaro that we received it was suppose to be ready to go countless hours later it was ready to go and we did not complain we made it the way we wanted it....we liked that truck alot and if your SO unhappy with it still i will make you an offer right here and right now get it back together and bring it and take the GTO in the garage home but dont make a complaint a year later OK mike is not mad about the deal he is only mad his name was ran into the ground over a illigenament complaint.


Ad says four bolt main- and if its a two bolt main then there is some legitimacy. I wouldnt think removing the pan while the motor was in the truck running and while getting a once over would be feasible, so you'd see it when you freshen the motor which sounds like now.

Original Poster, post pics of the two bolt main 289 casting block- go to help section on how to post pics.

BTW Original Poster, its totally uncool to post on here without contacting the original seller and telling him what is going on- How could he fix it when you didnt give him a chance?

Scorp

[THERATTLER]

just for arguments sake , they did make the 289 casting in 2bolt and 4bolt, the 4 bolt being the performance and truck block.

[Goomba]

This is mike's wife and i was present the entire time the guy was here ....he was givin as long as he needed to inspect run, and give the truck a through inspection and to do anything he wanted he was not told anything that we did not know or were not aware of. I along with my husband do not appreciate his name being drug through the mud on this at all. A YEAR LATER NO LESS And as for him calling, it simply did not happen all we heard from the guy was how much he loved the truck and was impressed with the entire deal. It's kinda like feeling that you got screwed somehow in some way and complaining about it a year later ....what good does that really do if you were unhappy with the truck in any way you would of been more than welcome to come park it back in out garage. I loved that truck it was bitchin......if it was mine and i was so unhappy with it ...while it was apart i would be putting the motor together how i wanted it. Thats exactly what we had to do with the camaro that we received it was suppose to be ready to go countless hours later it was ready to go and we did not complain we made it the way we wanted it....we liked that truck alot and if your SO unhappy with it still i will make you an offer right here and right now get it back together and bring it and take the GTO in the garage home but dont make a complaint a year later OK mike is not mad about the deal he is only mad his name was ran into the ground over a illigenament complaint.


Ad says four bolt main- and if its a two bolt main then there is some legitimacy. I wouldnt think removing the pan while the motor was in the truck running and while getting a once over would be feasible, so you'd see it when you freshen the motor which sounds like now.

Original Poster, post pics of the two bolt main 289 casting block- go to help section on how to post pics.

BTW Original Poster, its totally uncool to post on here without contacting the original seller and telling him what is going on- How could he fix it when you didnt give him a chance?

Scorp

Scorp ,he did say, in his 1st post he did try to e-mail him a few times with no reply. Just wanted to point that out.

Goomba

[MEMRACING62]

does anybody on here have a copy of the MSA-1 BOOK for bbc casting # that can answer the question of is there a 2 bolt & four 4 version ?

[THERATTLER]

I don't have that..I googled it.

[Scorpion1110]

This is mike's wife and i was present the entire time the guy was here ....he was givin as long as he needed to inspect run, and give the truck a through inspection and to do anything he wanted he was not told anything that we did not know or were not aware of. I along with my husband do not appreciate his name being drug through the mud on this at all. A YEAR LATER NO LESS And as for him calling, it simply did not happen all we heard from the guy was how much he loved the truck and was impressed with the entire deal. It's kinda like feeling that you got screwed somehow in some way and complaining about it a year later ....what good does that really do if you were unhappy with the truck in any way you would of been more than welcome to come park it back in out garage. I loved that truck it was bitchin......if it was mine and i was so unhappy with it ...while it was apart i would be putting the motor together how i wanted it. Thats exactly what we had to do with the camaro that we received it was suppose to be ready to go countless hours later it was ready to go and we did not complain we made it the way we wanted it....we liked that truck alot and if your SO unhappy with it still i will make you an offer right here and right now get it back together and bring it and take the GTO in the garage home but dont make a complaint a year later OK mike is not mad about the deal he is only mad his name was ran into the ground over a illigenament complaint.


Ad says four bolt main- and if its a two bolt main then there is some legitimacy. I wouldnt think removing the pan while the motor was in the truck running and while getting a once over would be feasible, so you'd see it when you freshen the motor which sounds like now.

Original Poster, post pics of the two bolt main 289 casting block- go to help section on how to post pics.

BTW Original Poster, its totally uncool to post on here without contacting the original seller and telling him what is going on- How could he fix it when you didnt give him a chance?

Scorp

Scorp ,he did say, in his 1st post he did try to e-mail him a few times with no reply. Just wanted to point that out.

Goomba

thanks- missed that.

Original poster my apologies.

The old Mortec site shows:

3999289....454.......71-79...2 or 4 bolt, some "CE" replacement blocks had four bolt main caps

http://web.archive.org/web/20080513040220/www.mortec.com/bbc.htm

S

[novaking35]

the wife again he never contacted us by email, call or text our phones are always on and being business phones they are always the same numbers YET a YEAR later here we are having this conversation.

[novaking35]

speaking of a year ago i got a nice pair of k swiss shoes around the same time he got the truck, they are falling apart ....anybody got the number to k swiss so i can call and bitch ?

im probaby better off buying a new pair.

[MEMRACING62]

As of now the op hasn't posted any evidence ( pic's) of this being a 2 bolt. seller, did you ever see personaly that it is a 4 bolt or have pic's showing what it is ?

[Goomba]

As of now the op hasn't posted any evidence ( pic's) of this being a 2 bolt. seller, did you ever see personaly that it is a 4 bolt or have pic's showing what it is ?


Good point. If you post it ,prove it, or it is just hear say. Just my thoughts. :idea:

Goomba

[THERATTLER]

First off it says 4 bolt main and is 2 bolt 289 casting. told me it had JE pistons in it and are trw, suppose to be eagle crank & rods and are gm i beam rods and cast crank. Pick up the truck in March and went all the way to him. Went to freshen motor up and what a suprise! Make sure it is what you say. That is why i am bitching, you lied , because you didn't know at all what you had!!!!!!!!
STAMPED , wouldn't want it to come up missing in action :wink:
come on and post up pics to prove what you are claiming , don't leave it as is...a pic is worth a thousand words..without proof the thread is useless and unfair to the other party...JMO

[BEAST477]

Guys not taking sides as I don't have a dog in this fight, but a year later is a bit much and at the HP level that engine is at it won't make much difference in strength 4 bolt or 2 bolt. Even with pics how do we know for sure it is the block out of the truck? Just saying. This could go on for ever. But what do I know? :roll:

[novaking35]

id have to go look for pics A YEAR AGO FOR 1

FOR 2 I BET ITS NOT EVEN HIS TRUCK ANY MORE

FOR 3 WHO KNOWS WHAT "HE" HAS DONE

FOR 3 I ASKED FOR PICS OR SOMETHING


ILL GO LOOK FOR PICS THANKS FROM FOR EVER AGO LOL

[MEMRACING62]

Guys not taking sides as I don't have a dog in this fight, but a year later is a bit much and at the HP level that engine is at it won't make much difference in strength 4 bolt or 2 bolt. Even with pics how do we know for sure it is the block out of the truck? Just saying. This could go on for ever. But what do I know? :roll: My thoughts exactly. :roll:

[THERATTLER]

Guys not taking sides as I don't have a dog in this fight, but a year later is a bit much and at the HP level that engine is at it won't make much difference in strength 4 bolt or 2 bolt. Even with pics how do we know for sure it is the block out of the truck? Just saying. This could go on for ever. But what do I know? :roll:
Your right..nothing much else going on at the moment though..most people will take the complaint for what its worth..

[novaking35]

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv282/novaking35/forsale2061.jpg
http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv282/novaking35/forsale2062.jpg
http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv282/novaking35/forsale2063.jpg
http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv282/novaking35/forsale2064.jpg
http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv282/novaking35/forsale2065.jpg
http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv282/novaking35/forsale2066.jpg

[novaking35]

these are the only pics i have left of this truck

its been so long ago

ill keep looking

[THERATTLER]

nice,,,got any of what you got in trade???

[novaking35]

damn after a 2 days i got ahold of the guy i got the truck from

he sent me this pic and a lil info ill go copy and past the email

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv282/novaking35/l_165d870f2fa54a41b99e3dbb9fb9958d.jpg

[novaking35]

Hey buddy good to hear from you, i dug around and came up with one pic of the motor, it was a 289 casting block, studded 4 bolt main, with a ls6 steel crank and 13-5-1 trw pistons, been wondering how you guys been it was nice visiting with ya'all that day and i hope you guys enjoyed the truck as much as i did.

Let me know if i can help you any further with information.

Talk to you later man and Happy New Year.

-Mike Thompson

Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 6:36 PM

[fla1976]

Looks like the party is over. :)

[MEMRACING62]

I would say this is done.

[Goomba]

I would say this is done.

Well the guy that started all this has not come back on. Seems like he would want to reply. Mike Lay looks like you have proved your point. :wink: By the way this is Tony the one that talked to you a year ago. I was the one that built the camaro you got. I wish the other guy never took the motor out. It was a nice ride. And for the record when I talked to you and you wife you two sounded cool to me. Happy new year.

[novaking35]

thanks tony we appreciate all the info you gave us on the car happy new year to you too

[Goomba]

thanks tony we appreciate all the info you gave us on the car happy new year to you too



I added you as a friend, you can see my new ride I am working on. Will be done in few months. :D

[novaking35]

just curious but was the trade you got from him what he said it was?

[Goomba]

just curious but was the trade you got from him what he said it was?


He got it from the guy ,I traded a Street rod for. He got it from him. That poor camaro went to 4 people in a year. :o I had it for 3 years. Got pretty sick so got out or racing for a while. But could not take not having a race car so here I go again. :lol:

[novaking35]

its a track champ in colorado some whear

good guy has it

[mopar1968]

I would say Stick a fork in it i believe it's done, I believe a case of buyers remorse :!: :!:







Mark

[MEMRACING62]

BTW..Sharp truck....would be proud to own it myself. 8)