ban Julian or Not ban Julian

[bjuice]

ok I moved the Thread made by Julian to the Mod section to where only Mods and admins can review...It wasn't deleted.....


Although Julian feels like bringing my name up every so often ( bad move) and thinks I have taken sides against him (in-correct) I want to make sure Julian is treated fairly....I do not know a fairer way to be with someone then to let their peers decide.. ...after all I am fair person..

I also found this poll fitting since Julian likes making his own Post summoning opinions from the entire forum like he has the platform, he also insist he has a following...and he just might....by Voting No-one will know who you are unless you want them to..you can also make a comment or choose not to....

you decide....Does he stay or Go ????
_________________
Bjuice..

"I'M YOUR HUCKLEBERRY ! "

[Scooterz]

Ban. TJ Hooker can take a hike. Unless he shows immediate humility & truly wants to make things right. Not looking good so far. I probably got too involved with this too much, said too much, got irritated too fast. Sorry if I offended anyone or rambled on too far... my bad.

[bjuice]

Ban. TJ Hooker can take a hike. Unless he shows immediate humility & truly wants to make things right. Not looking good so far. I probably got too involved with this too much, said too much, got irritated too fast. Sorry if I offended anyone or rambled on too far... my bad.

please cast your Vote Scoot it makes it official...thanks for comment !


Guys remember to cast your Vote if your making a comment or Not...

thanks in advance


well what da ya know Julian a freakin Jury Trial is now in progress... 8)


Ban Julian------ Do not ban Julian
Yes BAN Julian
66% [ 2 ]
No Do Not Ban Julian
33% [ 1 ]

Total Votes : 3

[BEAST477]

Ban. TJ Hooker can take a hike. Unless he shows immediate humility & truly wants to make things right. Not looking good so far. I probably got too involved with this too much, said too much, got irritated too fast. Sorry if I offended anyone or rambled on too far... my bad.

Hey Scoot, no need to apologize. I don't think you offended anyone, you just voiced your opinion without the mud slinging.

[TheRabbit]

I could care less about any pictures on anybody’s profile. I hardly ever go to peoples profiles. I don’t think I have ever asked to be friends with anybody. The few I have, have asked me. I really don’t care about the profiles. I come here for the forum and hanging out with the guys. I saw some girl posted some crap in Julian’s thread about the other guys being jealous and about their wives being fat. Again, I don’t care about all that mess. A persons wife is there business not any of mine. I am way beyond childish games like that.
Julian has done nothing but cause trouble from the first day he got here about more than one topic. By his attitude I really don't ever see him fitting in with the rest of us.
I say send him on his way to another forum and I will be glad to give him a good recommendation!

Ban Julian------ Do not ban Julian
Yes BAN Julian
75% [ 6 ]
No Do Not Ban Julian
25% [ 2 ]

Total Votes : 8

[bjuice]

TTT


Ban Julian------ Do not ban Julian
Yes BAN Julian
81% [ 9 ]
No Do Not Ban Julian
18% [ 2 ]

Total Votes : 11

[Scorpion1110]

Julian has been through this type of issue before; Here is his November 4 post below:

URL: http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?p=122212&highlight=#122212

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Post subject:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The guy does have a valid argument guys. And as far as the honor payment goes would that not be an issue for racing junk to address,not you.? I myself don't agree with the whole honor payment thing. If RJ wants money for sales why don't they just charge like EBay?
I'M JUST PLAYING DEVILS ADVOCATE HERE. I myself know what its like to be ripped apart on a public forum. I had one old customer who was an idiot rip me and my old shop apart on a forum then get his cronies to join in despite never doing business with me and him being 100% wrong. I read the linked threads and unless I missed it, I fail to see where the scams were.perhaps I'm missing something.
************************************************** ********

Brian:

Do I think he should be banned? I think he should be ignored if a reader doesnt like what he has to say. My dad used to say ignore someone and he will go away.

However he wont go away; he will stay.

So should he be banned? For having different ideas? No. For behaving like a jackass? nope.

For using homophobic slurs as a joke? no (though I found that distasteful).

For repeatedly disrupting threads in the Scammer forum to make them his own private soapbox? YES. Posters on the Scammer Forum need the most assistance on this site- The idea is to help them- and repeated and systematic disruption HURTS them.

Sadly Brian, in my opinion, as a moderator you dont have a choice.

Scorp

[TheYellaBrick]

VERY well said Scorp.....EXIT stage RIGHT :arrow:

[TheRabbit]

Ban Julian------ Do not ban Julian
Yes BAN Julian
82% [ 14 ]
No Do Not Ban Julian
17% [ 3 ]

Total Votes : 17

Times running out for Julian. Tick Tock, Tick Tock...
Sorry guys couldn't help it. I got way more involved in this than I wanted too.

[Incognegro]

Can I cast my vote? Ban me!!!!Ban me!!

Let me tell you the issue..
27,000 members of this forum, and about 12 active posters, You guys might wanna look at yourselves as the issue. The only person I had any issues with is Mark. the rest of you are just jumping on the bandwagon cause he is your boy. and Yall know that..

How about this, I just banned myself. 8)

[Incognegro]

Cmon ban me already so I can stop coming on here..

[Scorpion1110]

bump.

[TheRabbit]

Ban Julian------ Do not ban Julian
Yes BAN Julian
86% [ 19 ]
No Do Not Ban Julian
13% [ 3 ]

Total Votes : 22

[Harbone]

Can I cast my vote? Ban me!!!!Ban me!!

Let me tell you the issue..
27,000 members of this forum, and about 12 active posters, You guys might wanna look at yourselves as the issue. The only person I had any issues with is Mark. the rest of you are just jumping on the bandwagon cause he is your boy. and Yall know that..

How about this, I just banned myself. 8)

again, says he's not coming back but when nobody responds to that he just keeps typing, do we really need a vote when the guy says to ban him??

[shawnp]

Well, I will go against the grain on this one. Scorp hit some great points. I think we are all guilty of hijacking threads at times and I think sometimes what we think is the right way to deal with someone is not necessarily the correct way.

The one thing we really have to understand in dealing on www is that we are a melting pot of characters and attitude. What may seem to be a proper way to handle something for me may not seem to be the proper way for Scorp or Chris or Mark, etc.


I think the Mods have done a very fair job on trying to handle things. They have spoken when needed and watched when appropriate. It is always a tough call as a moderator to have to step in and make a decision like this.

I think it is time for everyone involved in the postings to step back from the mud slinging and finger pointing. Take a deep breath and walk away. Move on and just ignore future comments or replying to those you just don't seem to be able to agree with.

Just my opinion...but I could be wrong.

[mytmouz]

ok I moved the Thread made by Julian to the Mod section to where only Mods and admins can review...It wasn't deleted.....


Although Julian feels like bringing my name up every so often ( bad move) and thinks I have taken sides against him (in-correct) I want to make sure Julian is treated fairly....I do not know a fairer way to be with someone then to let their peers decide.. ...after all I am fair person..

I also found this poll fitting since Julian likes making his own Post summoning opinions from the entire forum like he has the platform, he also insist he has a following...and he just might....by Voting No-one will know who you are unless you want them to..you can also make a comment or choose not to....

you decide....Does he stay or Go ????
_________________
Bjuice..

"I'M YOUR HUCKLEBERRY ! "



I vote no ban. I have stayed out of all the drama threads because they are pretty pointless. But they have kinda grown on me after a while. It's sorta like wrestling. You know it's fake...

[Harbone]

ok I moved the Thread made by Julian to the Mod section to where only Mods and admins can review...It wasn't deleted.....


Although Julian feels like bringing my name up every so often ( bad move) and thinks I have taken sides against him (in-correct) I want to make sure Julian is treated fairly....I do not know a fairer way to be with someone then to let their peers decide.. ...after all I am fair person..

I also found this poll fitting since Julian likes making his own Post summoning opinions from the entire forum like he has the platform, he also insist he has a following...and he just might....by Voting No-one will know who you are unless you want them to..you can also make a comment or choose not to....

you decide....Does he stay or Go ????
_________________
Bjuice..

"I'M YOUR HUCKLEBERRY ! "



I vote no ban. I have stayed out of all the drama threads because they are pretty pointless. But they have kinda grown on me after a while. It's sorta like wrestling. You know it's fake...

:lol:

[DirkaDirka]

Ban Julian------ Do not ban Julian
Yes BAN Julian
81%
81% [ 22 ]
No Do Not Ban Julian
18%
18% [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 27

Guess what I choose?? :twisted:

[Harbone]

Well his racespace account is gone, havent seen him here all morning. maybe he finally stuck to his word of not coming back after saying it at least 10 times :!: I really dont think anyone has to ask me how I voted :twisted:

[bjuice]

Julian has been through this type of issue before; Here is his November 4 post below:

URL: http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?p=122212&highlight=#122212

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Post subject:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The guy does have a valid argument guys. And as far as the honor payment goes would that not be an issue for racing junk to address,not you.? I myself don't agree with the whole honor payment thing. If RJ wants money for sales why don't they just charge like EBay?
I'M JUST PLAYING DEVILS ADVOCATE HERE. I myself know what its like to be ripped apart on a public forum. I had one old customer who was an idiot rip me and my old shop apart on a forum then get his cronies to join in despite never doing business with me and him being 100% wrong. I read the linked threads and unless I missed it, I fail to see where the scams were.perhaps I'm missing something.
************************************************** ********

Brian:

Do I think he should be banned? I think he should be ignored if a reader doesnt like what he has to say. My dad used to say ignore someone and he will go away.

However he wont go away; he will stay.

So should he be banned? For having different ideas? No. For behaving like a jackass? nope.

For using homophobic slurs as a joke? no (though I found that distasteful).

For repeatedly disrupting threads in the Scammer forum to make them his own private soapbox? YES. Posters on the Scammer Forum need the most assistance on this site- The idea is to help them- and repeated and systematic disruption HURTS them.

Sadly Brian, in my opinion, as a moderator you dont have a choice.

Scorp

thanks for bringing that to light Scorp.....


tic,toc,tic,toc,tic toc.........getting sleepy yet Jules ?

Julian its a shame you can't just contribute like the rest of us ..cause No question you are a bright person...just so bright your stupid...and now your this close to losing privledges of being part of the best Racing Forum in the World.

Now you ask me a Question of why I'm considering banning you...Well my Good friend Scorp( and Respeced Member) just spelled it out for you.


I will check the vote count when I come back in tonight from the shop.

and for the record we are a bunch of Good ole Boys who sweep our own Floors !!!!

[Scooterz]

Well, I will go against the grain on this one. Scorp hit some great points. I think we are all guilty of hijacking threads at times and I think sometimes what we think is the right way to deal with someone is not necessarily the correct way.

The one thing we really have to understand in dealing on www is that we are a melting pot of characters and attitude. What may seem to be a proper way to handle something for me may not seem to be the proper way for Scorp or Chris or Mark, etc.


I think the Mods have done a very fair job on trying to handle things. They have spoken when needed and watched when appropriate. It is always a tough call as a moderator to have to step in and make a decision like this.

I think it is time for everyone involved in the postings to step back from the mud slinging and finger pointing. Take a deep breath and walk away. Move on and just ignore future comments or replying to those you just don't seem to be able to agree with.

Just my opinion...but I could be wrong.

Shawn: I respect you for saying this. I wish I could will myself to behave like you speak about above. Call the Irish in me... whatever. Although you are absolutely correct; I will jump in the fight every time when it is my friend being unfairly attacked. Jillian was threatening him with warrants, arrests, etc... please... the guy is problem where ever he goes b/c of his attitude. Personally, I think people who are that arrogant in their insecurities need to be HAMMERED until they get some humility BEATEN into them. We are helping this Jillian understand that RESPECT & FRIENDSHIP IS EARNED. I have your backs; I really do. I make all kinds of mistakes in a day sometimes. Tell me if I am out of line- I will correct my behavior because I respect you. Will he??? But unfairly threaten my family or my friends, all bets are off.

Yeah it is a wwwforum, but the same people that really frequent this place are pals. It is about friendship... which takes time, trust, humility, etc... why is this place so great??? Friends. It's the people who make it so special. One guy who thinks this is a penis-swinging contest can really mess up things around here. Good people blow out because of it. Those people are often times my friends. Anyone seen Rudy??? Look at the ROOT cause of many times there is a major problem on here. I think sometimes it evolves from people like Jillian. The guy comes in here like a disease & infects this place. For that reason I fully support the Moderators.

I may be wrong here... would not be the first time. Nevertheless, you guys are all great folks that are drawn here for different reasons. Thanks for putting up with me. :D

[shawnp]

Rigsby... my fair skinned, sun burnt brother!! Trust me, the Irish runs hard here most days. Thank my Grandmother for that (and the ability to hold my beer). But I have learned to step back and look. Are we letting emotion drive what we are posting? Are we posting to defend or posting to beat someone into submission of I am wrong? I think that occassionally we ALL get hung up on a topic and push it a little too far as we let emotion run the keyboard.

Like you, I like this place and the tight knit loyalty that is here. We are going to get the 1 or 2 Julians that come in and feel unwanted. These people that think creating multiple screen names and coming in here to play is entertaining don't understand that the majority of us have been around the block with that crap and it gets old real quick. He was looking for attention and got it. Just in the wrong way.

[Scooterz]

Well said my friend... I can't argue with that. BTW: good to see a few Irish lads around here.

[TheRabbit]

Rigsby... my fair skinned, sun burnt brother!! Trust me, the Irish runs hard here most days. Thank my Grandmother for that (and the ability to hold my beer). But I have learned to step back and look. Are we letting emotion drive what we are posting? Are we posting to defend or posting to beat someone into submission of I am wrong? I think that occassionally we ALL get hung up on a topic and push it a little too far as we let emotion run the keyboard.

Like you, I like this place and the tight knit loyalty that is here. We are going to get the 1 or 2 Julians that come in and feel unwanted. These people that think creating multiple screen names and coming in here to play is entertaining don't understand that the majority of us have been around the block with that crap and it gets old real quick. He was looking for attention and got it. Just in the wrong way.

I agree with what you are saying and that's what I tried and tried and tried to get julian to do. Leave it alone and he never would and he NEVER WOULD no matter how long he was on here.
He said all he wanted was for Mark to admit to all the bs and he would quit posting about it.
It would not have ended it. It just would have been something else.
By now means am I the brightest bulb in the pack, but at least I know how to get along with people and if the majority of the people didn't like my attitude I would change it or leave on my own. He was never gonna do either one.

[bjuice]

Shawm,Rabbit, Scoot,Scorp and everyone else that has taken the time to comment on this situation...THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart...pressing the ban button is a very diffcult thing to do although the phyiscal aspect of it is simple.

I wanted to make sure I gave this guy every opportunity to make it Right before I jumped and made a move..its like Shooting a gun..once you have pulled the trigger there is no going back

I think the problem may have taken care of itself (Without any Action taken on my end)...I will go ahead and admit this cause some may not believe it....when I cast my Vote...I voted "NO"...not to ban him....lol. 8) ...I wanted the Man to have at least one Vote in his corner although I know he is dead wrong in his actions.

Everyone has bads Days...YES including me...so let me go ahead and take this moment and say if I have ever did anything to Hurt anyone in anyway I apologize it was not intentional or meant to be a permanent thing anyhow.
My job here is to protect you guys and keep peace...not to inflict any damage..I fully understand and respect the Authority this site has given me.."With Authority Comes Responsibility"


thanks for the words of reason Shawn...your a good fella !

[Big409]

Shawm,Rabbit, Scoot,Scorp and everyone else that has taken the time to comment on this situation...THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart...pressing the ban button is a very diffcult thing to do although the phyiscal aspect of it is simple.

I wanted to make sure I gave this guy every opportunity to make it Right before I jumped and made a move..its like Shooting a gun..once you have pulled the trigger there is no going back

I think the problem may have taken care of itself (Without any Action taken on my end)...I will go ahead and admit this cause some may not believe it....when I cast my Vote...I voted "NO"...not to ban him....lol. 8) ...I wanted the Man to have at least one Vote in his corner although I know he is dead wrong in his actions.

Everyone has bads Days...YES including me...so let me go ahead and take this moment and say if I have ever did anything to Hurt anyone in anyway I apologize it was not intentional or meant to be a permanent thing anyhow.
My job here is to protect you guys and keep peace...not to inflict any damage..I fully understand and respect the Authority this site has given me.."With Authority Comes Responsibility"


thanks for the words of reason Shawn...your a good fella !


I would like to say that I am VERY SORRY for anyone that I may have said bad things to or was messing around with. Guys, this is hard for me, not to say I'm sorry, it's hard for me to realize that I bought into the silliness that was going on.

I guess the keyboard got to me. I was mostly kidding around and it got out of hand. I do have to admit that it got out of hand when some of you guys (I will not name anyone) kind of picked on me. Maybe you guys were kidding around with me. But no matter how I look at it, I was wrong and I feel very bad about that. I'm not asking for anybody to forgive me because I'm not sure I forgive myself.

Maybe some of it was that I was very jealous of the relationships you all have on here. I had a whole lot of friends in drag racing and went through a bad time with an illness and just wanted to be alone. Now most of my friends don't want to be friends with me any more. Maybe I hurt them because I stopped communicating with them but I never was mean to them. I actually stopped communicatig with them because I didn't want to hurt them because I was in such a bad mood. I know I have said a lot of stupid stuff at times that I am sorry for, really sorry for. but like the old saying goes, a true friend would forgive you no matter what. So, I guess they may not have been real friends.

Now, as far as having 2 names, after the bad deal I had on RJ (and that was 1 bad deal out of 7) I felt that I had to change my name because I got phone calls and was physically threatened by another RJ member. I won't mention his name either. Yes, I did go to the police, not sure if they did anything but I know that I stopped getting phone calls. So to try to be a friend on here, I thought it would have been impossible for me to use my original name.

So with all that being said, this is just another boneheaded mistake I need to live with. Believe me it's not the first one and it probably won't be the last. But one thing Goomba never wanted to do or ever wants to do was to hurt anyone. I'm sorry. I wanted to clear the air. You guys really have something special on here I now realize that I screwed that up too.

[bjuice]

your 100% Cool with me 409....thanks Bud

[mopar1968]

409 I apologize for thing's i said to you, Now let's get this forum back where it need's to be and bust scammers azzes :!: :!:






Mark

[TheRabbit]

BJ, we've got your back!! If I were a mod my actions would have been different too. There is a big difference and I know that.

To big409
a true friend would forgive you no matter what
and you will not find a better, more sincere group of friends than right here. Like Scooter said, we come from all walks of life and have been through a lot together. I've cried from pain and sorrow and even death.
I've dissagreed with and laughed with all these guys for several years. They are like family to me.
The door is open. All you gotta do is come in and hang out with us.

[topsportsman1]

Is it too late to still vote? :P :P :P

[dragonmaster093]

as i was speaking to mark and mike about stuff i know myself i went through an "initiation/hazzing(if you will)" before i was trusted and accepted and to me its just away for everyone to learn yot merits and and to get to know you and to me its like becoming a man so to speak just a right of passage

[shawnp]

Goomba...aka 409... it's a good group in here. Hang out and have fun. Thanks for clearing the air with the guys. I am sure a lot of respect will be gained from that.

As far as friends in drag racing, I think you got a lot of them coming back from what I have been reading. The ones that don't are too selfish to see why you needed your space.

[Harbone]

Welcome back 409, apology accepted and I owe you one too, sorry...
:D

[THERATTLER]

409 you are welcome here anytime as far as I am concerned . and you do NOT have to agree with everything posted here , if eveybody agreed then there wouldnt be a need for a forum would it . you can disagree without the name calling and just plain acting an a$$..I can't believe you let julian pull you into his trap , he would have turned on you too , sooner or later ..I can assure you that we are not a bunch of "wash women" or "old farts" . we all either race or love racing to its fullist..we love to corner scammers and force them to come up with the product of a refund or wind up in jail..we don't blame the site , we blame the scammer..there are a few that have scammed before and are still out there doing it , but if the people that get on here crying about getting scammed by them had come on here before hand and looked they would have found that that person has a history on here that will not go away. the scammer section is a tough place to hang out and you have to have thick skin to particapate. It really can be very entertaining also , we come across some real clowns on here , LOL ..like I said you are welcome anytime you want to join in , as far as I'm concerned,,,,Paul

[Harbone]

I spoke to soon, Julians profile is back up on RJ... :lol:
Quess he just cant get enough :!:

[Goomba]

409 you are welcome here anytime as far as I am concerned . and you do NOT have to agree with everything posted here , if eveybody agreed then there wouldnt be a need for a forum would it . you can disagree without the name calling and just plain acting an a$$..I can't believe you let julian pull you into his trap , he would have turned on you too , sooner or later ..I can assure you that we are not a bunch of "wash women" or "old farts" . we all either race or love racing to its fullist..we love to corner scammers and force them to come up with the product of a refund or wind up in jail..we don't blame the site , we blame the scammer..there are a few that have scammed before and are still out there doing it , but if the people that get on here crying about getting scammed by them had come on here before hand and looked they would have found that that person has a history on here that will not go away. the scammer section is a tough place to hang out and you have to have thick skin to particapate. It really can be very entertaining also , we come across some real clowns on here , LOL ..like I said you are welcome anytime you want to join in , as far as I'm concerned,,,,Paul


Thanks all you guys. I really mean it. I think I would like to hang around as tmasitto. 409 has left the building. :wink: Happy new year to all my new friends on R/J. The Goomba. :D

[mopar1968]

No matter hang around :!: :!:










Mark

[cepx111]

Welcome back tmasitton...

What's your name again>? Cp = Charlie Perkins


Happy New Years!

[MEMRACING62]

409 you are welcome here anytime as far as I am concerned . and you do NOT have to agree with everything posted here , if eveybody agreed then there wouldnt be a need for a forum would it . you can disagree without the name calling and just plain acting an a$$..I can't believe you let julian pull you into his trap , he would have turned on you too , sooner or later ..I can assure you that we are not a bunch of "wash women" or "old farts" . we all either race or love racing to its fullist..we love to corner scammers and force them to come up with the product of a refund or wind up in jail..we don't blame the site , we blame the scammer..there are a few that have scammed before and are still out there doing it , but if the people that get on here crying about getting scammed by them had come on here before hand and looked they would have found that that person has a history on here that will not go away. the scammer section is a tough place to hang out and you have to have thick skin to particapate. It really can be very entertaining also , we come across some real clowns on here , LOL ..like I said you are welcome anytime you want to join in , as far as I'm concerned,,,,Paul X2 PAUL...I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER !

[DirkaDirka]

Goomba,

I may not say alot on here but welcome ot the RJ family. I rarely get on nowadays due to being in Afghanistan and not the states. Dont worry I aint no enemy. I am a civilian contractor working on the Apaches.

Anyways I just wanted to also say dont let these guys get to you. They are a great bunch. Even that guy named Bjuice. :P Yeah we had a short spell with alot going on here but I think I can honestly say that all that is behind us and we are finally back to our old selves.

Again, Welcome to the RJ family.


Dirk

[TheYellaBrick]

Speaking of....what happened to Rudy ? :cry: :cry:

[BEAST477]

Speaking of....what happened to Rudy ? :cry: :cry:

I think Rudy has left the building. :roll:

[Harbone]

last email I got from Rudy said he was done with RJ and the forum... :(

[MEMRACING62]

last email I got from Rudy said he was done with RJ and the forum... :( His profile on rj is gone...I think it was there yesterday :? sad....wish he would reconsider his deccesion.....sad. :(

[Goomba]

Goomba,

I may not say alot on here but welcome ot the RJ family. I rarely get on nowadays due to being in Afghanistan and not the states. Dont worry I aint no enemy. I am a civilian contractor working on the Apaches.

Anyways I just wanted to also say dont let these guys get to you. They are a great bunch. Even that guy named Bjuice. :P Yeah we had a short spell with alot going on here but I think I can honestly say that all that is behind us and we are finally back to our old selves.

Again, Welcome to the RJ family.


Dirk

Thanks , I do have to say they are not as bad as I thought either. :D Be safe over there. :!: Thanks again. Goomba

[Harbone]

if anybody wants Rudy's email, send me a PM

[bjuice]

there was No vaild Reason for Rudy to leave the Site ..IMO. The Guy (Rudy) has been threatening to quit the site for sometime whenever any little thing happened he didn't like or disagreed with.I guess he finally convinced himself to really Quit...
I ain't trying to stir anything back up..but fact of the matter is it came to a Boiling point with me when I made a joking reply to his steering wheel post and he came off the handle and made some Big a$$ deal out of it...heck I even placed a ( lol ) after the post I made....I guess since I am an Admin he saw another reason/excuse to quit the site..

I can honestly say this..and Mopar and Maniac can be my whitness cause I still got the pm's to prove it...I WAS THE 1ST ONE THERE TO DEFEND RUDY AND HIS SON WHENEVER SOME JACKASS WOULD GO OFF SAYING STUFF THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE...I ALSO WOULD ANSWER QUESTION'S RUDY WOULD SEND ME OVER ON RACE SPACE ON WHAT TO DO SELLING HIS 69 CAMARO, OR SELLING A REAR END,DOWN TO BASIC QUESTIONS ON MAKING HIS 1ST TRACK PASS.....THIS KIND OF STUFF WENT ON FOR LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER AND THAT WAS OK BECAUSE WE WERE FRIENDS !!!!!! :roll:
I GUESS RUDY NEVER STOPPED TO THINK ABOUT ALL THAT BEFORE HE PULLED THE TRIGGER ON ME AND THE SITE /FORUM...THATS WHY I AM GOOD WITH IT ALL...I WAS HIS FRIEND AND HE DREW THE BLOOD

IF RUDY WANTS TO COME AND HANG BACK AROUND THATS FINE WITH ME...BUT I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT GO OUT OF MY WAY TO ASK HIM BACK..

and yes Dirka the site is doing well,.the problem was that is was not getting enough attention from the moderation side of things and a certain few was dragging the site from side to side...of course when Moderation step back up to plate and starting doing its job you saw who cut and ran.....but its alll good.


Also I know I was typing in caps above..I wasn't Yelling or screaming I was just expressing my point.

Tmasitto use whatever screen name you feel Ok with. :D

and Yes that Guy Bjuice is Ok...one of the oldest members on here ( membership date that is)and one of the fairest guys I know ..... lol :D

Happy New Year

[Goomba]

there was No vaild Reason for Rudy to leave the Site ..IMO. The Guy (Rudy) has been threatening to quit the site for sometime whenever any little thing happened he didn't like or disagreed with.I guess he finally convinced himself to really Quit...
I ain't trying to stir anything back up..but fact of the matter is it came to a Boiling point with me when I made a joking reply to his steering wheel post and he came off the handle and made some Big a$$ deal out of it...heck I even placed a ( lol ) after the post I made....I guess since I am an Admin he saw another reason/excuse to quit the site..

I can honestly say this..and Mopar and Maniac can be my whitness cause I still got the pm's to prove it...I WAS THE 1ST ONE THERE TO DEFEND RUDY AND HIS SON WHENEVER SOME JACKASS WOULD GO OFF SAYING STUFF THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE...I ALSO WOULD ANSWER QUESTION'S RUDY WOULD SEND ME OVER ON RACE SPACE ON WHAT TO DO SELLING HIS 69 CAMARO, OR SELLING A REAR END,DOWN TO BASIC QUESTIONS ON MAKING HIS 1ST TRACK PASS.....THIS KIND OF STUFF WENT ON FOR LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER AND THAT WAS OK BECAUSE WE WERE FRIENDS !!!!!! :roll:
I GUESS RUDY NEVER STOPPED TO THINK ABOUT ALL THAT BEFORE HE PULLED THE TRIGGER ON ME AND THE SITE /FORUM...THATS WHY I AM GOOD WITH IT ALL...I WAS HIS FRIEND AND HE DREW THE BLOOD

IF RUDY WANTS TO COME AND HANG BACK AROUND THATS FINE WITH ME...BUT I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT GO OUT OF MY WAY TO ASK HIM BACK..

and yes Dirka the site is doing well,.the problem was that is was not getting enough attention from the moderation side of things and a certain few was dragging the site from side to side...of course when Moderation step back up to plate and starting doing its job you saw who cut and ran.....but its alll good.


Also I know I was typing in caps above..I wasn't Yelling or screaming I was just expressing my point.

Tmasitto use whatever screen name you feel Ok with. :D

and Yes that Guy Bjuice is Ok...one of the oldest members on here ( membership date that is)and one of the fairest guys I know ..... lol :D

Happy New Year

Thanks bjuice :D Just a thought, I am not sure of what went on with this sight and Rudy. But mabe with what he said to me , was saying he wanted to come back. People say they are sorry in a lot of ways.

Just my thoughts
Goomba

[mopar1968]

Yes Brian i can sit here and honestly say you were the first to defend him, I guess he got mad at me over the julian comment, It was nice of julian to contact Rudy and tell him what was said without a chance to explain. I like Rudy he was one of the family here :!:






Mark

[THERATTLER]

all correct , I did contact Brian a couple times when I (personally) felt someone was getting way out of line about Rudy"s son who gave all so we could sit here tonite and talk freely. Brian did take action and left the measures to be taken against him completly up to Rudy , (which I agreed was the best call)..I like eveyone on here and hope most like me , hell my wife likes me but we still don't always agree :roll: ..I am hoping time will heal all hurt feelings and slowly get ALL the family back together.
Rudy , I for one would love for you to come back and help us , I consider you a big part of this family , Todd and scorp are both still here , probally will still knock heads a time or two , buts that difference of opinons , thats what a forum is , different people with different opinons.I found this place a few years back and it has helped me through some tuff times , from being broke and sold completly out of racing to getting back in on a smaller scale , which by the way is just as much fun and alot less demanding...but I got 3 0r 4 pages of encouragement from my FRIENDS on this forum.
come on Holiday and give us another shot...I miss you,,,,Paul

[bjuice]

Yes Brian i can sit here and honestly say you were the first to defend him, I guess he got mad at me over the julian comment, It was nice of julian to contact Rudy and tell him what was said without a chance to explain. I like Rudy he was one of the family here :!:






Mark

thanks Mark.

[bjuice]

all correct , I did contact Brian a couple times when I (personally) felt someone was getting way out of line about Rudy"s son who gave all so we could sit here tonite and talk freely. Brian did take action and left the measures to be taken against him completly up to Rudy , (which I agreed was the best call)..I like eveyone on here and hope most like me , hell my wife likes me but we still don't always agree :roll: ..I am hoping time will heal all hurt feelings and slowly get ALL the family back together.
Rudy , I for one would love for you to come back and help us , I consider you a big part of this family , Todd and scorp are both still here , probally will still knock heads a time or two , buts that difference of opinons , thats what a forum is , different people with different opinons.I found this place a few years back and it has helped me through some tuff times , from being broke and sold completly out of racing to getting back in on a smaller scale , which by the way is just as much fun and alot less demanding...but I got 3 0r 4 pages of encouragement from my FRIENDS on this forum.
come on Holiday and give us another shot...I miss you,,,,Paul

thanks for being straight up Paul its GUYS like you and Mopar that make the site..

[dragonmaster093]

gee thats bjuice lol all the usuals aka the sharks need to get together and and settle their diffs so we can be a family again jmo

[Harbone]

I know Rudy is upset, I hope Mark can smooth some things over with him. I dont think Tod has checked in since Christmas day, I sent him a PM thanking him for his apology to Mark but its still in my outbox... :?

[shawnp]

Sometimes we all just need a little break. Yinz are good people in here and I am sure that time will heal any wounds.

[bjuice]

gee thats bjuice lol all the usuals aka the sharks need to get together and and settle their diffs so we can be a family again jmo

1st off dragon I did not understand your post except the last part.

there is Nothing to Smooth Over..Sorry wish there was...

In case you haven't noticed I been on this site since 2003..I have seen all kinds of Chit come and go and come again...No-one has had to Coax me into staying on the site or babysit me not once.. I have been ATTACKED AND THREATENED by every Idiot in the world ( litterly)...During the Course of all this I HAVE NEVER SAID ONE NEGATIVE THING ABOUT OR TOWARD THIS SITE /FORUM
The administrator title wasn't just given to me cause they like the way I comb my hair...I worked for it and earned it...I am true Blue LoyaL to RJ and I am gonna defend her whenever I have to....thats one of the reasons Rudy got under my skin and the reason Julian3rd pulled my chain. ( too much Bitchin and complaining about the site Opinions or Not...Bottom Line you either for her or your against her ).

So bottom line start trash talking about the site and you can rest assure you will be addressed....


With that said I appreciate each and everyone of you who spend time on this forum...
also IMO Tod74 has a good head on his shoulders I would be surprised if he was Staying away from the forum on purpose...one thing I can say about him he always finds grounds of reason...maybe I could be wrong on this one but I would bet I am not.

and what can a man say about Scorp ????...truley one of the most amazing person's I have run across on this site and internet in general..I am proud to call him my Friend...along with many others on this Site !!!!

If a person/member is a True Blue RJ member they will come back on their own and they will promote the site not try and tear it down with all the negative Bullchit they spew....Remember there is a right and wrong way to get your point across..and I think we all at some point in time "Agree to be Dis-Agreeable" !

[bjuice]

gee thats bjuice lol all the usuals aka the sharks need to get together and and settle their diffs so we can be a family again jmo

I got to thinking back on that Thread cause I knew there was somebody else involved I made my Joking reply to...so I went back and checked to see who it was.....now maybe I am getting Old and slowing down so please explain the 1st part of your post again dragon..I know you were joking cause I can see the LOL..I just don't get it in general.... :?: :roll:

I copied the post I made (instead of copying the entire thread) so some of you who didn't know when this happened and for some who forgot..this is my reply that was tore apart and run in the ground..

here is the thread if anyone is interested

http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=15193&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

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dragonmaster093 wrote:
you could probibly get one from aftermarket for like 2200-2400 less just not a original but to mee its way over priced


if you don't have an all orginal 1966 shelby GT with a missing steering wheel I would say its over priced.....lol

point i am making is give us Facts why you come to the conclusion this original part (steering wheel) is over priced....also before you start making your point aftermarket parts do not come into play when your restoring with orginal parts
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Bjuice..

"I'M YOUR HUCKLEBERRY ! "

[Goomba]

gee thats bjuice lol all the usuals aka the sharks need to get together and and settle their diffs so we can be a family again jmo

I got to thinking back on that Thread cause I knew there was somebody else invloved I made my Joking reply to...so I went back and checked to see who it was.....now maybe I am getting Old and slowing down so please explain the 1st part of your post again dragon.... :?: :roll:

I copied the post I made (instead of copying the entire thread) so some of you who didn't know when this happened and for some who forgot..this is my reply that was tore apart and run in the ground..

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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:04 pm Post subject:

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dragonmaster093 wrote:
you could probibly get one from aftermarket for like 2200-2400 less just not a original but to mee its way over priced


if you don't have an all orginal 1966 shelby GT with a missing steering wheel I would say its over priced.....lol

point i am making is give us Facts why you come to the conclusion this original part (steering wheel) is over priced....also before you start making your point aftermarket parts do not come into play when your restoring with orginal parts
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Bjuice..

"I'M YOUR HUCKLEBERRY ! "


I for one can support this sight is pretty FAIR. I got to admit with the crap I pulled, Everyone on here has still ask me to ride along. Shawnp and bjuise was in the front seat. :wink: :D

[bjuice]

whats up Tony ?

[Goomba]

whats up Tony ?

Not much, at work. I work 2 shift and get to log in at break at lunch. I got to say I really am starting to have some fun with this sight. Good fun that is. :wink: I really feel I have already made some buddys on here already. I am on DRR a lot and like that one also. :D

[bjuice]

whats up Tony ?

Not much, at work. I work 2 shift and get to log in at break at lunch. I got to say I really am starting to have some fun with this sight. Good fun that is. :wink: I really feel I have already made some buddys on here already. I am on DRR a lot and like that one also. :D


Its a Good site Tony..I think you will enjoy it...also I do not mind hi-jacking the heck out of this thread..so lets post up..

[TheRabbit]

Not to change the subject and get back on the topic, but I just figured out who Julian is. know you guys know I'm a little slow so it took me a while, but he is Julian Assange. You know the guy from WikiLeaks.
He was trying to take RJ down from the inside out. Didn't work did it? He's just a bad joke that somebody will use in the future. lol

Rudy was already ill with the forum when y'all had words so I think he took it worse than you meant it to be or just took it the wrong way.
You don't have to explain anything to us, it just happened that's all.
If you don't get on here regular you loose touch with the current stuff going on and the forum kinda slips away from you as you get more and more use to being away from it.


It's almost impossible for most people to not get ticked off at some point. You really have to have a laid back sense of humor or really easy to get along with or just a plane a.. that doesn't get along with anybody to hang around any forum for long.

[bjuice]

Spot on Rabbit !

[dragonmaster093]

just giving you chit about " thanks for being straight up Paul its GUYS like you and Mopar that make the site" coment i knew you ment all of us that have stuck it out and been here and done our part. and with the work it out coment i made is i know that you didnt mean what you said how it was taken i pm'ed you back then remember and even when i first read it back then i took it wrong and all but just the way i read it. and ive never questioned you on your coments or actions to me your one of the guys with a bigger stick is all so i hope this clears the misunderstanding up and not make more confusion

[Harbone]

X3 Rabbit!
If we didnt agree to disagree every once in awhile it would be lame as hell and as Julie Ann would say, we would all just be a bunch of FAGS :!:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[mopar1968]

Chris anyone ever told you your full of it :?: :lol: :lol: That's one saying that will take a long time to forget :!: :lol:








Mark

[Harbone]

Dont forget Right Wing Liberal and I think there may have been a Holy Roller or two thrown in! :roll:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[MEMRACING62]

X3 Rabbit!
If we didnt agree to disagree every once in awhile it would be lame as hell and as Julie Ann would say, we would all just be a bunch of FAGS :!:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :shock: :shock: ...he said...FAG !! :P :lol:

[TheYellaBrick]

Fast Azz Gasser

[TheRabbit]

In total there are 11 users online :: 5 Registered, 0 Hidden and 6 Guests [ Administrator ] [ Moderator ]
Most users ever online was 210 on Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:50 am
Registered Users: bcw49, DrivingMissDD, Julianthe3rd, shawnp, TheRabbit

[Harbone]

In total there are 11 users online :: 5 Registered, 0 Hidden and 6 Guests [ Administrator ] [ Moderator ]
Most users ever online was 210 on Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:50 am
Registered Users: bcw49, DrivingMissDD, Julianthe3rd, shawnp, TheRabbit

That cant be right?!?! According to him theres only like 6 of us on here and we are all butt buddies...
:lol:

[lively]

ok OK OKWHO WAS/ IS JULIAN?????

HEY--i missed ALOT :? :? :shock: :shock:

[Scorpion1110]

ok OK OKWHO WAS/ IS JULIAN?????

HEY--i missed ALOT :? :? :shock: :shock:

Well he was no LIVELY, I can tell you that. Nice to see you around.

S

[mopar1968]

Lively he was a pompas azz cop from new jersey :!: Had a comment for everything and everyone even the mods. Now you know it is getting bad when Brian {Bjuice} steps in and he did just that :!: :!: So julian is no longer :!: Wasn't bumped just put on straight and narrow :!: :!:







Mark

[dragonmaster093]

thought he was pretend cop and actually a parts counter guy

[MEMRACING62]

cop wannabe...I see him on from time to time but I think he's been muzzled.

[mopar1968]

Your right Sam i stand corrected, He sold part's and pretending to be a cop :!: :!:









Mark

[dragonmaster093]

its ok mark i know the mind is one of the first things to go lol

[lively]

boy oh boy --i missed the fun :twisted: :twisted:

[Harbone]

boy oh boy --i missed the fun :twisted: :twisted:

glad to see ya back Lively! Missed ya buddy!

It was interesting to say the least but when Julie started slamming the RJ website, the forum and its Admins he was bound to get put in his place.
I could give a crap about what he said about me and Mark, all I can say is we pushed Julies buttons and got him to show his true self :!: :twisted:

[grimratter]

You guys must be slipping. Julian is still here. Look up "incognegro"

[TheRabbit]

You guys must be slipping. Julian is still here. Look up "incognegro"

Your search for profiles with username: incognegro
Found 1 matches. Showing results 1 to 1. Page 1 of 1.
Incognegro .

That is pretty funny.

[MEMRACING62]

GEE...DOES ANYONE HERE WANT TO FRIEND REQUEST HIM ?...... :lol: :lol:

[Harbone]

That him, heres an ad he has listed for his Mercury, gotta love the wording he uses, who the hell would want to trade with the guy :?:

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/0/unset/post/2050616/Mercury-Comet-Cyclone-PRO-STREET.html

[bjuice]

boy oh boy --i missed the fun :twisted: :twisted:

Welcome back Ole Friend..always glad to see you Dennis.

yeah if you got some time get caught up on your reading I think you will get a kick out of it

[mopar1968]

Yeah i caught his name change a few week's back :!: :!:











Mark

[Harbone]

well Julie I cant let you slide down to far, back to the top for you :!:

[TheRabbit]

He's over and gone. Let him rest in peace. (Our peace).

[BEAST477]

Ya know guys, it doesn't really matter if he gets banned or not. We've had plenty before him and we'll have plenty after him. We just have to learn to ignore them and they will go away if they have no one to argue with. Just a thought. :idea:

[TheYellaBrick]

My thoughts exactly, Beast.
It's too EZ to let these oddballs get our goat and get us all fired up. EZer to just vet them through interaction and I-G-N-O-R-I-N-G them when they show their TRUE intentions. Actually WE WIN when it's done that way. Letting them get to us, THEY win.We're all better folks than that.

I'm really sorry to see those friends of ours that have decided to 'move on' from RJ. I miss them. What makes this such a unique forum is the high level of maturity, knowledge, and openness. It takes all of us as UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS with all the little emotional and personality quirks we each have to make this as unique a forum it is. And with that individual uniqueness comes personality differences that sometimes cannot be accepted by one or both parties for one reason or another. We each make our own choices and we need to respect whatever choice an individual makes, we don't know what's deep within each others minds and hearts or what each of us has to deal with on a day to day basis.

Peace, Out V :D

[bjuice]

My thoughts exactly, Beast.
It's too EZ to let these oddballs get our goat and get us all fired up. EZer to just vet them through interaction and I-G-N-O-R-I-N-G them when they show their TRUE intentions. Actually WE WIN when it's done that way. Letting them get to us, THEY win.We're all better folks than that.

I'm really sorry to see those friends of ours that have decided to 'move on' from RJ. I miss them. What makes this such a unique forum is the high level of maturity, knowledge, and openness. It takes all of us as UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS with all the little emotional and personality quirks we each have to make this as unique a forum it is. And with that individual uniqueness comes personality differences that sometimes cannot be accepted by one or both parties for one reason or another. We each make our own choices and we need to respect whatever choice an individual makes, we don't know what's deep within each others minds and hearts or what each of us has to deal with on a day to day basis.

Peace, Out V :D


Thats Good DD but the way I see it the people that decided to leave the site did not posses some of the Qualities you described above but instead acted like Children and took their balls and went home...its happened over the 8 yrs I been on here...for some reason some of these guys think the site will not make it without them...don't ask me why but they do...then they go to another site put up with un-real Censorship,Dictaters for Mods, Cursed at on a day to day basis by staff and members by being told to "Shut the Phuck Up " and They claim they are glad to be there...but they couldn't handle minor disagreements on This site....GO FIGURE !!!...LOL......JMO ( based on 8 yrs observation)

Your also right some of us are Mature Grown Men and some struggle past and (a few) present... members

[dragonmaster093]

if we all got along and agreed all the time what fun would it be? even us sharks disagree time to time but it all works out and the men on here know when they are wrong and most all of us that have stuck it out can admit it just my thoughts

[Goomba]

if we all got along and agreed all the time what fun would it be? even us sharks disagree time to time but it all works out and the men on here know when they are wrong and most all of us that have stuck it out can admit it just my thoughts

:idea: You guys got me out of this tread. :D So see you never know what may happen. :D

Gommba

[outlaw256]

well im comin back and there a thing you can do about it!! lol

[Scooterz]

Opinions vary. DD/Beast: you have a good view... wish I could grow up sometimes & just chill. Juice has a point too...

I love what Dragon said!!! SO TRUE!!! Look, I get out-of-line sometimes too; but I would like to think I will tell you "sorry' my bad" & move on... because I was wrong. Julie could not do that!!

"Julie" needed some forum-justice. He needed a lesson. Man, don't come on here & try to threaten my friends w/ a warrant or some whiny lawsuit!!! He got schooled with a BACKLASH for his "Renta-Cop" babbling.

Everything happens for a reason. We all balance each other out here. JULIE got PUNKED & learned a valuable lesson... BE HUMBLE. Maybe he will learn from this.

So if someone comes on here & runs their mouth & threatens the peace & balance, should we just tolerate it until it goes away??? I SAY NOT MY BRETHEREN!!! For this is an opportunity for education... a time in which the ARROGANT meet a BRICK WALL. I love it!!!

[mopar1968]

Well said my friend :!: :!: If we are wrong then step up and say so :!: :!: But one thing everyone has to admit is Brian & Tom will not step in unless they have too they let us have the new piece of meat that come's on here starting trouble with one of the Brotherhood :!: :!: I take a offense to that :!: :!:



Mark

[dragonmaster093]

i agree too you dont mess with our (health? unhealth?)balance and besides each and everyone of us has had their chops busted when we first came here shows everyone what we are made of and if we have the kahonaas to man up help the site and "EARN" the resepect of our fellow car nuts then so be. after this is isnt some prissy school girl club where everyone that pops in is given a big hug and accepted no questions this is club of hard azz's that make you earn your respect and when you have one big family and i some cases better then blood families