Question of the day on paint

[zipper06]

O'k i know this is the wrong spot for this, but more people look at this section than the body work section. Long story short my Vette was parked at my friends shop for almost 1 1/2 yrs (chasing electronical problems), outside no protection and the paint/clearcoat went to crap. i can't afford $2000.00 to repaint and i want to reclaim the paint that's on the car, IS IT POSSIBLE???

Zip.

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[Harbone]

if the clear is completely gone and down to the basecoat red, probably not. its hard to scuff the red again to make the clear stick and not mess it all up. if you can find a good body guy he may able to just spray the top and blend it in but that paint looks pretty faded. GM clearcoat cars from that era all had the same problem.

[bixblk]

I had a 1986 black camaro, I bought new it in 86 in 1990, The clear coat started to turn whitish (at first) I took it to a body shop (buddy of mine), he told me GM had trouble and call them. I spoke to 10 different folks over the course of 3 months. The last guy looked at it and told me I would get 1500.00 in the "spirit of customer satisfaction". To get the car resprayed. I was to get ther check in 6 to 8 weeks. Eight weeks passed I called GM and could not get a hold of the gentleman that gave me the settlement price, along with a reference number. I did get another person and they told me that he no longer worked for GM and any settlements he offered was no good because he was not authorized to give it. I told them that it maybe a legal issue and the lady at GM told me to "do what ever you need to do, that is our stance". I have not bought another new GM car. What a shame ?????
Jeff

[MEMRACING62]

A friend of mine had the same thing happen to an 87 suburban....gm repainted it free of charge.

[Tod74]

I had a 1990 corsica that all the clear came off like that. My dad has a 2000 cavalier that is doing the exact same thing right now.

[TheYellaBrick]

IF you were to TRY to use what you have, it just wouldn't be worth the time as it all needs to come off and start over from the primer out. To save the factory base, ALL of the clear has to be removed without disturbing the base. Next to impossible.....
Start sanding one panel at a time, as time allows, primer seal it, then move on to the next when you can.

[zipper06]

IF you were to TRY to use what you have, it just wouldn't be worth the time as it all needs to come off and start over from the primer out. To save the factory base, ALL of the clear has to be removed without disturbing the base. Next to impossible.....
Start sanding one panel at a time, as time allows, primer seal it, then move on to the next when you can.

It is a 1990 model, so the paint is atleast 20 yrs. old.

I've 2 friends that restore old cars and trucks within 7 miles of me and they do 2 or 3 a yr. each,one has 4 cars going right now and the other has 2 going, and they both said the same thing, not savable. But the car is borderline on what it's worth and the paint alone would be about $800.00. I could do all the labor and either one would spray it for next to nothing. I'm trying something and i spent 2 hrs on 1/2 of the rear bumper and it's o'k at 20 foot, but it's so dogone cold here i'm having trouble getting it to dry. I don't have heat in my shop (heck it's supposed to be 60 degrees not 20 degrees that it's been, hell i got Orange trees not heaters.
I'll take a pic tomorrow to show what it looks like.

Zip.

[dragonmaster093]

hey zip theres a paint supply store in abingdon va that a buddy of mine got everything to paint his camaro (vw blue) but for everything $300
http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy119/dragonmaster093/003.jpg
http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy119/dragonmaster093/006.jpg
him and his dad sprayed in their 2 car garage and looks like a pro did it

[mopar1968]

You talking about Danny by chance :?: :?:

[dragonmaster093]

mark you want painter or where they got paint

[zipper06]

I am told that red cost more than any other color, but havn't checked on any prices yet, the $800.00 was the number given to me by the guy who restores/build old cars. I do know that about 6 yrs ago when a wind storm dropped a tree limb on my Elky and i had to repaint the roof only the paint and sealer cost $160.00.

Zip.

[dragonmaster093]

ill call tomorrow and see what 90 vette red paint and all supplies are here

[dragonmaster093]

rather 86

[TheYellaBrick]

Red in any medium costs more as red is the fastest fading color in nature. I don't know the scientific reason for this phenomena. When signage was hand painted, it was a major issue in the less expensive paints, and still is in the less expensive vinyls. Chinese junk that is powder coated red, fades EXTREMELY fast.

[zipper06]

Basicly, i did what Harbone66 suggested, using 1000 grit wet or dry paper with lots of water, when i seen red paint on the paper i quit and cleaned it up. I remembered something a friend told me, who owned a Boat shop that sold boats. He said that they took in trade lot's of Bass boats that had been neglected, the ones with metal flake and fancy paint jobs. He say they would wet sand them with 1000 grit and then clearcoat them and they looked like new and add $2000.00 to the resale. I thought Hmmm!!!, fiberglass and rubber equals Corvette.

Below is the results on the lower right bumper, the white is glare. For some reason the tail lite panel paint is good. You can see the other part of the bumper and around the lic. plate box the clearcoat is bad. I used a spray can of clearcoat with a fan nozzle, not the shotgun type nozzle. If i can prove this method, i'll do it right with a spray gun once i get everthing prepared.

I don't know if it would work on metal or not.

Zip.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/zipper2/corvettepaint005.jpg

[Harbone]

well chit Zip, no matter what it looks better than before :!: :D

[dragonmaster093]

didnt get a chance to call today but found this
http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/

[DirkaDirka]

Zip I really hate to say this but that paint is gone. You can still buff and polish it out but it wont have the shine that it should have. I seen paint on cars a lot worse where the clear is actually peeling off.

From my experiences buying paint (PPG) it didnt matter what the color was and the price was the same across the board for a plain and simple base color. When I painted my Celica it only cost me $75 a quart for the color, but then add in the reducer and thinner it brought up the price.

BTW that is a nice Vette.

[fla1976]

You may want to check at a few different Maaco paint shop. Many are independent and some can do great paint jobs. The problem is usually the quality of the paint. You might find a good painter that will do a great job and you supply the paint you want applied. Look at samples of their work and shop around. The alternative is to wait for the opening in a shop you trust. It does look better than it did though.