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jake58
12-07-2010, 08:21 AM
RONS . TERMINATOR add number 2032803 his name is berettagt. Ipayed him for the rons with a telegraphic transfer into his wifes account when he received the money he said he would send the part and a tracking number.
I havn't received anything from him and its been a month now so i think i've
been ripped off.He won't answer his phone won't call back doesn't answer emails. Does anybody know anyway i can chase it up any help would be appreciated. Thanks

mopar1968
12-07-2010, 08:28 AM
You sent a wire transfer of money to his wife's account :?: Sorry but that is the oldest con in the book :!: I sent him a message let's see if he respond's :!: JMO Mark

bigray
12-07-2010, 01:18 PM
WOW,, and WOW again,,,Ipayed him for the rons with a telegraphic transfer into his wifes account ,, WOW.. i am speechless that there is still people on this planet that fall for this same old scamm,,

Incognegro
12-08-2010, 08:14 AM
Here is his profile.

http://www.racingjunk.com/profile/145127

Notice that there is no profile picture( Mopar1968):wink: and he has very limited information. He tried to friend request me, I did not approve.

Sounds like you got scammed, I would go to your local police file a report, and a lot of times (depending on the amount of money or number of complaint volume) The FBI will have jurisdiction over thefts using wire transfers.

jake58
12-08-2010, 10:13 PM
julianthe3rd You are right and i have contacted his local law enforcement, they are going to see him and see if he will put things right if not its the FBI that can deal with it and him and his wife can do some jail time for wire fraud and i hope they enjoy it.

Incognegro
12-09-2010, 06:31 AM
julianthe3rd You are right and i have contacted his local law enforcement, they are going to see him and see if he will put things right if not its the FBI that can deal with it and him and his wife can do some jail time for wire fraud and i hope they enjoy it.
FYI, dont have too much faith in your local law enforcement doing much. FWIW Im a cop and was scammed out of $6500 with a stolen CC when I had my shop. I actually worked with the NYPD's detectives brother who had the case, and still the D.A. would not move forward with the case cause it was only $6500....You believe that crap??

TheRabbit
12-09-2010, 06:40 AM
julianthe3rd You are right and i have contacted his local law enforcement, they are going to see him and see if he will put things right if not its the FBI that can deal with it and him and his wife can do some jail time for wire fraud and i hope they enjoy it.
FYI, dont have too much faith in your local law enforcement doing much. FWIW Im a cop and was scammed out of $6500 with a stolen CC when I had my shop. I actually worked with the NYPD's detectives brother who had the case, and still the D.A. would not move forward with the case cause it was only $6500....You believe that crap??

Is that why you moved to Africa?

Incognegro
12-09-2010, 06:42 AM
julianthe3rd You are right and i have contacted his local law enforcement, they are going to see him and see if he will put things right if not its the FBI that can deal with it and him and his wife can do some jail time for wire fraud and i hope they enjoy it.
FYI, dont have too much faith in your local law enforcement doing much. FWIW Im a cop and was scammed out of $6500 with a stolen CC when I had my shop. I actually worked with the NYPD's detectives brother who had the case, and still the D.A. would not move forward with the case cause it was only $6500....You believe that crap??

Is that why you moved to Africa?

We got a Nigerian president, I just as soon figured we were in Africa already.

jake58
12-09-2010, 12:48 PM
NOTE the scammer has changed the price in the add.

gungho
12-09-2010, 01:23 PM
With 208 friends he must be a great guy,this cant be true,not with 208 friends.

Incognegro
12-09-2010, 02:14 PM
I sent him a message asking if it was available. No reply.

BEAST477
12-09-2010, 05:04 PM
I sent him a message asking if it was available. No reply.

I sent him a message a couple days ago to see if he still had it. No reply.

jake58
12-09-2010, 11:30 PM
he is very good at not answering phones and messages

mopar1968
12-10-2010, 07:35 AM
Here is his response to me :

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-10 11:28:36
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM



On [2010-12-09 22:58:48] mopar1968 wrote:
> Do you stil have this for sale? I am switching from carb to injection.
yes one guy sent a deposit and didnt keep his end up

Incognegro
12-10-2010, 07:47 AM
Here is his response to me :

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-10 11:28:36
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM



On [2010-12-09 22:58:48] mopar1968 wrote:
> Do you stil have this for sale? I am switching from carb to injection.
yes one guy sent a deposit and didnt keep his end up

I got this from him.

From: BerettaGT To: Julianthe3rd Date: 2010-12-10 11:31:41
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM



On [2010-12-08 12:15:40] Julianthe3rd wrote:
> I would like to purchase it, will you take $1600??
1645 shipped

BerettaGT
12-10-2010, 07:49 AM
JUST TO SET RECORD STRAIGHT HE SENT ME A DEPOSIT AND IN 2 WEEKS WOULD SEND REST I WAITED 3 WEEKS AND NO MONEY I TALKED TO SHERIFF HE SAID THIS WAS A VERBLE AGREEMENT AND IF HE OWED MONEY ON PART AND BROKE AGREEMENT THERES NOTHING CAN B DONE. THIS IS JUST A BROKE ASS RACER TRYING TO RACE ON A WELLFARE BUDGET HES TRYING TO SCAM ME AND IM NOT GIVING MY PARTS AWAY THEY WERNT GIVE TO ME IVE GOT 2548 IN THES PARTS[/b]

Harbone
12-10-2010, 07:51 AM
JUST TO SET RECORD STRAIGHT HE SENT ME A DEPOSIT AND IN 2 WEEKS WOULD SEND REST I WAITED 3 WEEKS AND NO MONEY I TALKED TO SHERIFF HE SAID THIS WAS A VERBLE AGREEMENT AND IF HE OWED MONEY ON PART AND BROKE AGREEMENT THERES NOTHING CAN B DONE. THIS IS JUST A BROKE ASS RACER TRYING TO RACE ON A WELLFARE BUDGET HES TRYING TO SCAM ME AND IM NOT GIVING MY PARTS AWAY THEY WERNT GIVE TO ME IVE GOT 2548 IN THES PARTS[/b]

So, has he paid the full amount??

Incognegro
12-10-2010, 07:53 AM
JUST TO SET RECORD STRAIGHT HE SENT ME A DEPOSIT AND IN 2 WEEKS WOULD SEND REST I WAITED 3 WEEKS AND NO MONEY I TALKED TO SHERIFF HE SAID THIS WAS A VERBLE AGREEMENT AND IF HE OWED MONEY ON PART AND BROKE AGREEMENT THERES NOTHING CAN B DONE. THIS IS JUST A BROKE ASS RACER TRYING TO RACE ON A WELLFARE BUDGET HES TRYING TO SCAM ME AND IM NOT GIVING MY PARTS AWAY THEY WERNT GIVE TO ME IVE GOT 2548 IN THES PARTS[/b]
So your keeping his deposit? How much of a deposit did he send? Have you contacted him in the meantime? Have you answered his calls? And just an FYI, Police or Sheriff's dont get involved in civil matters and give advice, so thats bull$hit pal.

mopar1968
12-10-2010, 08:10 AM
Here is the 2nd one i just got :

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-10 12:04:20
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM

AS OF YESTERDAY BY THE WAY I DONT WONT TO BE YOUR FREIND EITHER AND IF JAKE WHATEVEVER WOULD HAVE SENT ME ALL MY MONEY IT WOULDNT B 4 SALE SO YALL QUIT TIRE KICKING

On [2010-12-10 11:33:07] mopar1968 wrote:
> So it is still for sale


I am crushed he doesn't want to be my friend :!: I am going to need counseling because of this :!: :!: :roll:

Incognegro
12-10-2010, 08:24 AM
Just an FYI take it for what its worth. Keeping someone deposit is illegal unless he signed or entered a contract where he was clearly informed and agreed it was non refundable. What your doing is theft.

BEAST477
12-10-2010, 08:38 AM
Here is the 2nd one i just got :

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-10 12:04:20
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM

AS OF YESTERDAY BY THE WAY I DONT WONT TO BE YOUR FREIND EITHER AND IF JAKE WHATEVEVER WOULD HAVE SENT ME ALL MY MONEY IT WOULDNT B 4 SALE SO YALL QUIT TIRE KICKING

On [2010-12-10 11:33:07] mopar1968 wrote:
> So it is still for sale


I am crushed he doesn't want to be my friend :!: I am going to need counseling because of this :!: :!: :roll:


Hey Mark, we will be meeting in North Carolina soon maybe all that come can get some counseling. :lol: Talk to you soon.

mopar1968
12-10-2010, 08:51 AM
I will be there :!:

Incognegro
12-10-2010, 08:58 AM
I will be there :!:

If you need a shoulder to cry on I'm here for you. Anyone who keeps a deposit on someone is a real scuba in my book. Shows the level of integrity of that person.

curtisreed
12-10-2010, 11:45 AM
I will be there :!:

If you need a shoulder to cry on I'm here for you. Anyone who keeps a deposit on someone is a real scuba in my book. Shows the level of integrity of that person.

I've been watching this out of curiousity and the OP never said whether he sent the full amount or not. If not what is his level of integrity? Not trying to stir the pot just throwing that out. I think if a deposit is to be sent back to the buyer then some of it should be kept for time / trouble and or missed sales.

I worry a lot about the things I buy off of RJ and I have been lucky and never been scammed. I feel for those who have. I also feel for those who have been dragged through the mud unjustly. Sometimes the truth is in the middle and if the seller doesn't know someone has accused them on the forum they can appear guilty when they are not.

Again just wondering where the middle line of truth is.

Curtis

BEAST477
12-10-2010, 03:24 PM
Well put Curtis, And where has jake58 gone to? Jake tell us the price you two agreed on and how much you sent. And can you prove it? A reciept of some kind on the wire transfer. Sure did get quiet all of a sudden.

Incognegro
12-10-2010, 03:37 PM
I will be there :!:

If you need a shoulder to cry on I'm here for you. Anyone who keeps a deposit on someone is a real scuba in my book. Shows the level of integrity of that person.

I've been watching this out of curiousity and the OP never said whether he sent the full amount or not. If not what is his level of integrity? Not trying to stir the pot just throwing that out. I think if a deposit is to be sent back to the buyer then some of it should be kept for time / trouble and or missed sales.

I worry a lot about the things I buy off of RJ and I have been lucky and never been scammed. I feel for those who have. I also feel for those who have been dragged through the mud unjustly. Sometimes the truth is in the middle and if the seller doesn't know someone has accused them on the forum they can appear guilty when they are not.

Again just wondering where the middle line of truth is.

Curtis


That is true. There is always 3 sides to a story: Side (A) , side (B) and what REALLY happened.

dragonmaster093
12-10-2010, 08:09 PM
beast if ya dont mind ill tag along with mark heck if i sale a car on contract it reads like this
i sam wood sell _____ a ___________ on the following terms. A. _____ down with payments every____ and if more then 1 payment is missed i reserve the right to repo said vehicle. and any and all moneys are forefieted by the said buyer.


both parties sign and if not no deal. if i know you you might get to take it home if not it sits and i keep title and on last payment i sign over. i did this to a friend i knew for almost 20 yrs but he understood my point
as they say on pawn stars its not that i dont trust you i just dont trust anyone

BEAST477
12-11-2010, 02:51 AM
No problem Sam, you are more than welcome.

Hey BerettaGT have you been in contact with jake58? I think both of you are BAD at business. Not keeping in contact, not holding up your end in the deal made(both of you are guilty). I say you two work it out the best you can and good luck.

jake58
12-11-2010, 05:10 PM
I have been away for 2 days is why no posts.I sent the scammer $1460.00 for parts and freight.In the add the price was $1400.00 buyer pays shipping, shipping was $60.00 i sent$1460.00 The scammer changed the price on the 12/08/10 call racing junk and they will tell you that he changed the add then, the price now is $1850.00.He had 2 adds at the same time 1 add had price at $1450.00 he pays shipping I have a email from racingjunk of his add before he changed the price.Ihave tried to call this guy over 20 times he doesnt answer when i call and i sent him an emal through racingjunk that he wouldnt answer. Ihave a receipt of wire transfer.

Incognegro
12-11-2010, 05:12 PM
I have been away for 2 days is why no posts.I sent the scammer $1460.00 for parts and freight.In the add the price was $1400.00 buyer pays shipping, shipping was $60.00 i sent$1460.00 The scammer changed the price on the 12/08/10 call racing junk and they will tell you that he changed the add then, the price now is $1850.00.He had 2 adds at the same time 1 add had price at $1450.00 he pays shipping I have a email from racingjunk of his add before he changed the price.Ihave tried to call this guy over 20 times he doesnt answer when i call and i sent him an emal through racingjunk that he wouldnt answer. Ihave a receipt of wire transfer.

Post up the emails then. Sounds like a shady deal to me.

mopar1968
12-11-2010, 05:13 PM
We would like to see E-mail's and possibably orginal ad. I am sure RJ can help with this :!: :!: JMO Mark

BEAST477
12-11-2010, 05:42 PM
Well Berettagt, how many ads and how many prices? jake58 if you can post up the emails and the ad you purchased from showing the price you stated that would look bad for him.

jake58
12-11-2010, 06:03 PM
This is the add with price at $1450.00 before he changed price on12/08/10
other email will post shortly

Here is the information on ad number 2030087:


RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION
COMPLETE MECHANICAL FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Ad #2030087 Posted:2010-11-01 17:29:07
This ad expires in 44 days.
$1,450.00



I HAVE A RONS TERMINATOR COMPLETE FROM SPARE INJECTOR PILLS TO RONS LEAK DOWN TESTER 1455CFM 4500 FLANGE BLACK GEAR ROTOR PUMP 0 1\2.


Seller Phone Number: 334 657 1268
This item is USED
Trades NOT ACCEPTED
Payment options:

WIRE TRANSFER
Item Location: GREENVILLE, AL Get Directions To This City
Instructions for buyer: PRICE INCLUDES SHIPPING


This ad expires in 44 days.

jake58
12-11-2010, 06:09 PM
From: jake58 To: BerettaGT Date: 2010-12-02 23:17:58
Subject: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM

Mike, on the 8/11/2010 i depoisted $1460.00 usd in your wife's bank account at your instruction to pay for a ron's terminator injection ad. number 2032803 and freight. I spoke to you on the phone and you stated that you had received the money and you would then send the injection system and that you would call me and give me the tracking number.To date you havn't sent that tracking number and i havn't received the goods i have tried to call you about 15 times but you don't answer the phone nor do you call me back.I think i have given you ample time to send the tracking number and the item. I am sending you this message in an attempt to make contact with you to sort this problem out. If you havn't contacted me by monday the 06/12/2010 i will contact racingjunk and your local police to try and sort it out. Please call as soon as possible you have my number. Thanks

jake58
12-11-2010, 06:18 PM
You will notice that dates appear with day before month because we do it that way in Australia

THERATTLER
12-11-2010, 07:25 PM
you are right about the two adds and two different prices..here they are for all to see..

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/98/Intake_manifolds_and_carbs/post/2030087/RONS-TERMINATOR-FUEL-INJECTION.html

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/0/unset/post/2032803/RONS-TERMINATOR-FUEL-INJECTION-SYSTEM.html

mopar1968
12-11-2010, 07:48 PM
Guy's i know this has been said many time's , But it look's like R.J could step in on something like this where someone prove's he/she has paid for good's and doesn't recieve them. It just doesn't make sence for this to happen over and over again. The guy has proven two ad's with two different price's. If it were me and i lost that kind of money i would be on a plane with bond money in my pocket :!: :!: JMO Mark

Incognegro
12-11-2010, 08:23 PM
Well that about settles it, Sounds like you got scammed my friend. If it were me I would post up all of this guys personal info possible, name,address,email,phone,bank account number, just for all to see.

zipper06
12-12-2010, 08:20 AM
The $1450.00 price was posted 7 min. after the $1850.00 price with all the pics.
Something smells here.

JMO

Zip.

Tod74
12-12-2010, 11:20 AM
I messaged him the day this thread started.I haven't been back on until today. Here is his answer.


On [2010-12-07 19:29:41] Tod74 wrote:
> You are being called a scammer in the forum. two guys say you sold them this set up. Might want to tell your side.


havent sold to any one one guy sent me a deposit and was suppose to send the rest in one week or his deposit was lost they can call me what they wont i cant help a bunch of broke ass folks try to race with a wellfare budget thanks

BEAST477
12-12-2010, 02:00 PM
I messaged him the day this thread started.I haven't been back on until today. Here is his answer.


On [2010-12-07 19:29:41] Tod74 wrote:
> You are being called a scammer in the forum. two guys say you sold them this set up. Might want to tell your side.


havent sold to any one one guy sent me a deposit and was suppose to send the rest in one week or his deposit was lost they can call me what they wont i cant help a bunch of broke ass folks try to race with a wellfare budget thanks

What a bunch of BS. A guy sends you $1460.00 and you are just going to keep it. What a POS you are and a real stand up guy you must be among your friends, if you have any that would claim you. This has only begun it will get bad for you.

TheRabbit
12-12-2010, 02:34 PM
By his reply he's done this before and he had NO INTENTIONS OF EVER SENDING THOSE PARTS. I would post every bit of info you have on him and would go after him with everything I could.

Tod74
12-12-2010, 03:23 PM
I am not one of those tough guys that want to fist fight over things...never have been because it doesn't solve anything,but I think that For $1400 bucks I'd probably look him up and beat the snot out of him. If I wasn't capable I'd get help.

IF THINGS ARE AS THEY APPEAR TO BE THIS GUY IS A REAL SCUMBAG.

jake58
12-12-2010, 04:26 PM
I agree with all of you but how do i make things bad for him i dont know much about him. Michael Reaves, Amanda loftin-reaves ,live in greenville Alabama, PH.3346571268. Thats about it i dont know anyone there to knock the snot out of him, wish i did be money well spent.

bigray
12-12-2010, 05:20 PM
on the money u sent, did u send it to his Acct ,,, if so do you have his routing and acct number, ???

jake58
12-12-2010, 07:57 PM
money was sent to his wifes acc i have those numbers.

jake58
12-12-2010, 10:01 PM
..

bigray
12-13-2010, 07:52 AM
OOOOOOOh CRAP... go to your bank ASAP. and you might be able to do a reverse fund transfer,, if the Acct is still open and if they have the money, hurry man ,, hurry,,you will not need the sellers authorization to do this,.. and you can have your bank, pull what info they can from the routing numbers,, but it sounds like you will have to go after, who evers name is on the Acct that you transfered the money to, Also by having the routing numbers, and if you have the Name and address of the bank,,, you can order stuff off that Acct,, oooh man ,, thats great ,IF the Acct is still open,,

Harbone
12-13-2010, 08:24 AM
OOOOOOOh CRAP... go to your bank ASAP. and you might be able to do a reverse fund transfer,, if the Acct is still open and if they have the money, hurry man ,, hurry,,you will not need the sellers authorization to do this,.. and you can have your bank, pull what info they can from the routing numbers,, but it sounds like you will have to go after, who evers name is on the Acct that you transfered the money to, Also by having the routing numbers, and if you have the Name and address of the bank,,, you can order stuff off that Acct,, oooh man ,, thats great ,IF the Acct is still open,,

Heck, I was looking at new Polaris 4-wheeler last week and I still have'nt bought the wife an xmas present, maybe Santa will come early this year courtesy a scammer :!: :lol:

dragonmaster093
12-13-2010, 12:34 PM
daddy needs a new engine come on scammer you can afforf it

Tod74
12-13-2010, 03:31 PM
routing numbers oh sh1t

OH SHIT. He has it coming no doubt but that could come back and haunt you.

curtisreed
12-13-2010, 04:34 PM
After reading all of this Jake I hope things work out for you.

Curtis

zipper06
12-13-2010, 08:54 PM
1st can one of the mod's or RJ ops, check to see if the 2nd post of the $1450.00 came from the same IP address as the first post for $1850.00 or was it hacked. That's the first question.
2nd, Jake do you and can you produce a reciept that you did send him/her the total of the $1460.00 requested for the sale as listed on RJ. If you have and produce this paperwork you have him bank fraud, internet fraud and possible other charges.
I would then contact the Attorney General in Ala. and supply him with all the doc's relative to the case..
I talked to my friend here in La. who has worked for the Attoreny Gen'l office for 15 yrs. as a state fraud investigator, investigating dealers and sellers of cars/car dealers. He says if he were in La. he would have already been arrested if you have the documentation if that happened here. He's the guy that owns the 66 Biscyne that i've mentioned a few time here on RJ.
In case no one took a screen shot of both ads i did and have them saved in my computer. I don't think just because you are 6,000 mi away you should be scammed in this matter. That is if you can produce the reciept for that amount of money and you did post the bank transfer/number.

JMO

Zip.

jake58
12-13-2010, 09:01 PM
OOOOOOOh CRAP... go to your bank ASAP. and you might be able to do a reverse fund transfer,, if the Acct is still open and if they have the money, hurry man ,, hurry,,you will not need the sellers authorization to do this,.. and you can have your bank, pull what info they can from the routing numbers,, but it sounds like you will have to go after, who evers name is on the Acct that you transfered the money to, Also by having the routing numbers, and if you have the Name and address of the bank,,, you can order
stuff off that Acct,, oooh man ,, thats great ,IF the Acct is still open,,
I have already tried that the bank will not return money without acc. holders permission.

jake58
12-13-2010, 11:08 PM
I havnt got a copy of the $1400.00 add that is the add. that he changed the price on, on the12/08/10. I do have the receipt for the $1460.00 wire transfer.

Tod74
12-14-2010, 08:24 AM
I havnt got a copy of the $1400.00 add that is the add. that he changed the price on, on the12/08/10. I do have the receipt for the $1460.00 wire transfer.

bottom line even if he is telling the truth(he isn't) that thedeposite was non refundable NOBODY gives a $1460 non refundable deposite on an $1800 item. If it were $100-$200 then maybe his story would hold water but not $1460. :!: :!:

my opinion he is banking onthe fact that because you are in another country you won't be asble to touch him. scumbag.

ccperf721p
12-14-2010, 09:11 AM
Neither story really holds water. I don't think it is possible to edit the ad and raise the price, you can only add information not change what is already there. So he couldn't have raised the price on 12-8 as claimed.

The seller has 2 ads for the same item within minutes of each other, the second one having a lower price. Possible mistake, I guess but who knows.

My real question would be how much money was truly sent and what were the conditions. If you give me a deposit and tell me you will have the rest in 2 weeks, then fail to hold up your end of the bargain, you lose plain and simple.

TheRabbit
12-14-2010, 09:52 AM
Neither story really holds water. I don't think it is possible to edit the ad and raise the price, you can only add information not change what is already there. So he couldn't have raised the price on 12-8 as claimed.

The seller has 2 ads for the same item within minutes of each other, the second one having a lower price. Possible mistake, I guess but who knows.

My real question would be how much money was truly sent and what were the conditions. If you give me a deposit and tell me you will have the rest in 2 weeks, then fail to hold up your end of the bargain, you lose plain and simple.

That's true about changing the add, but I don't see why he would send a deposit to someone for $1,460. And if he did why no contact after that about the balance. I do not want a deposit on anything. You give me your word that you want it it's yours until XX date then we talk again make the deal or not. I'm not so greedy that I'll take somebody's deposit and hope they are a day late and I keep it.

My idea of a sale is not I win you loose. It's a win win for both. I sell something I don't want / need anymore buyer gets something he wants at a fair price that he / she agrees to.

mopar1968
12-14-2010, 11:34 AM
Here is a message he just sent me :

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-14 15:07:14
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM

dude u dont even know me does it show he paid me
1460 and owes 400 more hes deposits gone he can do what ever he has to do i got a good lawyer

jake58
12-14-2010, 12:18 PM
Neither story really holds water. I don't think it is possible to edit the ad and raise the price, you can only add information not change what is already there. So he couldn't have raised the price on 12-8 as claimed.

The seller has 2 ads for the same item within minutes of each other, the second one having a lower price. Possible mistake, I guess but who knows.

My real question would be how much money was truly sent and what were the conditions. If you give me a deposit and tell me you will have the rest in 2 weeks, then fail to hold up your end of the bargain, you lose plain and simple.

If you call RJ as i did they will confirm that he edited the add.12/08/10

fla1976
12-14-2010, 12:34 PM
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mopar1968
12-14-2010, 12:49 PM
I think i am pissing him off :

just so u know but it realy is none of ur bussines i have two injections which one was sent and then returned because of name spelled wrong sold the other one this moring both were sent off u must be a old guy because u too nosey but this is just for ur nosey ass the tracking num to jake58 it was set priority mail customs form num is CP415181906US SO STAY OUT OF OTHER FOLKS BUSSINES

BEAST477
12-14-2010, 01:05 PM
Neither story really holds water. I don't think it is possible to edit the ad and raise the price, you can only add information not change what is already there. So he couldn't have raised the price on 12-8 as claimed.

The seller has 2 ads for the same item within minutes of each other, the second one having a lower price. Possible mistake, I guess but who knows.

My real question would be how much money was truly sent and what were the conditions. If you give me a deposit and tell me you will have the rest in 2 weeks, then fail to hold up your end of the bargain, you lose plain and simple.

If you go back and look in this thread there are links where BerettaGT has two different ads, same parts, two different prices.

BerettaGT
12-14-2010, 01:33 PM
I HAVENT SCAMED ANY BODY I HAD TWO INJECTION SET UPS IV ALREADY SENT TO JAKE58 AND IT WAS RETURNED FOR INCORECTLY SPELLED NAME I JUST GOT BACK HOME LATE LAST NITE CHECKED MAIL AND HAD LETTER FROM POST OFFICE THAT SAID I HAD A RUTURNED PACKAGE SO I RESENT IT TODAY FOR ANYBODY THAT DONT BELEIVE IT IT WAS SET PRIORITY MAIL THE US CUSTOM FORMS NUM CP415181906US SO HERE IT IS TO ALL U HATERS TRACK IT UR SELF[/b]

Incognegro
12-14-2010, 02:11 PM
I HAVENT SCAMED ANY BODY I HAD TWO INJECTION SET UPS IV ALREADY SENT TO JAKE58 AND IT WAS RETURNED FOR INCORECTLY SPELLED NAME I JUST GOT BACK HOME LATE LAST NITE CHECKED MAIL AND HAD LETTER FROM POST OFFICE THAT SAID I HAD A RUTURNED PACKAGE SO I RESENT IT TODAY FOR ANYBODY THAT DONT BELEIVE IT IT WAS SET PRIORITY MAIL THE US CUSTOM FORMS NUM CP415181906US SO HERE IT IS TO ALL U HATERS TRACK IT UR SELF[/b]

Your still a scumbag in my book...I hope you slip and fall in a puddle of AIDS.

MEMRACING62
12-14-2010, 02:19 PM
I HAVENT SCAMED ANY BODY I HAD TWO INJECTION SET UPS IV ALREADY SENT TO JAKE58 AND IT WAS RETURNED FOR INCORECTLY SPELLED NAME I JUST GOT BACK HOME LATE LAST NITE CHECKED MAIL AND HAD LETTER FROM POST OFFICE THAT SAID I HAD A RUTURNED PACKAGE SO I RESENT IT TODAY FOR ANYBODY THAT DONT BELEIVE IT IT WAS SET PRIORITY MAIL THE US CUSTOM FORMS NUM CP415181906US SO HERE IT IS TO ALL U HATERS TRACK IT UR SELF[/b] THE BUISNESS OF EVERYBODY HERE IS TO KEEP AN EYE ON SCAMMER SCUM LIKE YOU. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? .....TOUGH CHIT.... :twisted:

jake58
12-14-2010, 02:50 PM
He did call and state that he sent parcel 2 day i just got confirmation from usps that a parcel was sent.

Tod74
12-14-2010, 03:07 PM
ok wait a minute. In his messages to both me and to Mark(mopar) he says that the guy paid a deposit ONLY and that he still owed $400 and that it was too late,the deposit was lost.NOW HE says that he already shipped it and it was returned....so which is it? If the guy really does owe him more money as he says,why did he ship it?

BEAST477
12-14-2010, 03:08 PM
I HAVENT SCAMED ANY BODY I HAD TWO INJECTION SET UPS IV ALREADY SENT TO JAKE58 AND IT WAS RETURNED FOR INCORECTLY SPELLED NAME I JUST GOT BACK HOME LATE LAST NITE CHECKED MAIL AND HAD LETTER FROM POST OFFICE THAT SAID I HAD A RUTURNED PACKAGE SO I RESENT IT TODAY FOR ANYBODY THAT DONT BELEIVE IT IT WAS SET PRIORITY MAIL THE US CUSTOM FORMS NUM CP415181906US SO HERE IT IS TO ALL U HATERS TRACK IT UR SELF[/b]

That's funny one minute you're keeping his "Deposit". Now all of a sudden you have a tracking #. WOW do you have any more parts for sale? I'd love to do business with you. NOT.

If this is true, why didn't you just say all that in the first place?

jake58 for your sake I hope this is true and it works out. Keep us posted.

THERATTLER
12-14-2010, 03:22 PM
complete set up with spares and leak down tester $1450
complete set up with spares and leak down tester $1850
Two completly different stories , PRICELESS :lol:

jake58
12-14-2010, 03:26 PM
THANKYOU guys for your help with this issue i am sure things would have been different without your help. I have bought several items off RJ before with no problems and i have learnt a lesson from this paypal in future.Thanks again and i will keep you posted when i get the parcel.

mopar1968
12-14-2010, 04:57 PM
Yep he is pissed : :lol: :lol:

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-14 16:58:11
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM


DO WHAT EVER U LIKE I DONT CARE I DONT HAVE TO SEAL MONEY I HAVE 985000 IN MY ACC WHAT DO U HAVE A WELLFARE CHECK AND JUST SO UR PUNK ASS KNOWS I HAVENT STOLE ANY BODYS MONEY SO FUCK OFF BEFORE I REPORT U

bigray
12-14-2010, 05:12 PM
OOOOOOOh CRAP... go to your bank ASAP. and you might be able to do a reverse fund transfer,, if the Acct is still open and if they have the money, hurry man ,, hurry,,you will not need the sellers authorization to do this,.. and you can have your bank, pull what info they can from the routing numbers,, but it sounds like you will have to go after, who evers name is on the Acct that you transfered the money to, Also by having the routing numbers, and if you have the Name and address of the bank,,, you can order
stuff off that Acct,, oooh man ,, thats great ,IF the Acct is still open,,
I have already tried that the bank will not return money without acc. holders permission. WELL CRAP.. JUST A SHOT,, SORRY,

Tod74
12-14-2010, 05:28 PM
Yep he is pissed : :lol: :lol:

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-14 16:58:11
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM


DO WHAT EVER U LIKE I DONT CARE I DONT HAVE TO SEAL MONEY I HAVE 985000 IN MY ACC WHAT DO U HAVE A WELLFARE CHECK AND JUST SO UR PUNK ASS KNOWS I HAVENT STOLE ANY BODYS MONEY SO f OFF BEFORE I REPORT U

Hey Mark,I hate to ask this but....can you send me some of that cheese? Welfare cheese is just about the best cheese there is.

mopar1968
12-14-2010, 05:30 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: Another PM ::

From: BerettaGT
To: mopar1968
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:40 pm
Subject: MOPAR1968
UR NOT PISSING ME OFF UR MAKING AN ASS OUT OF UR SELF U HAVE NO CLUE WHATS GOING ON SO STAY OUT OF IT YOUR JUST A BITCH ASS HATER THAT HAS NOTHING ELSE TO DO BUT WAIT ON A WELLFARE CHECK AND HARASS PEOPLE YOUR THE THEIF STEALING FORM THE GOVERMENT

MEMRACING62
12-14-2010, 05:32 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :!: :!: WHOS THE PUNK ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

dragonmaster093
12-14-2010, 05:34 PM
well hell with all that money we can make a big donation to rj and each of us on his dime what you guys think lol

mopar1968
12-14-2010, 05:35 PM
This dude has to be kin to ''Littlerod'' look at the spelling :!: :lol: :lol:

MEMRACING62
12-14-2010, 05:36 PM
This dude has to be kin to ''Littlerod'' look at the spelling :!: :lol: :lol: DAMN...TREED ! :lol:

dragonmaster093
12-14-2010, 05:37 PM
mem with all the treeing you get must have a bucket truck on call lol

MEMRACING62
12-14-2010, 05:42 PM
mem with all the treeing you get must have a bucket truck on call lol I have the typing speed of a kindnergardner. :(

mopar1968
12-14-2010, 05:43 PM
Deep down i think he likes me :!: What do you guy's think :?: :lol: :lol:

MEMRACING62
12-14-2010, 05:44 PM
Deep down i think he likes me :!: What do you guy's think :?: :lol: :lol: yep....I also think littlerod loves ya too. :P

dragonmaster093
12-14-2010, 05:45 PM
he wants to be your bestest buddy and hang out allllll the time mark he just has issues expressing it LOL

dragonmaster093
12-14-2010, 05:47 PM
mem blame on the cold the heat arthritis the dog the wife its all good

edited for spelling

mopar1968
12-14-2010, 05:54 PM
Chris ''Harbone sent me this on another thread :


harbone66
RACING JUNKIE


Joined: 01 Aug 2007
Posts: 1400

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:59 am Post subject:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mark, you are relentless
_________________
Chris

http://www

THERATTLER
12-14-2010, 06:08 PM
Mark,,I'm still waiting to see who you get reported to...the principle???

TheRabbit
12-14-2010, 06:34 PM
I messaged him the day this thread started.I haven't been back on until today. Here is his answer.


On [2010-12-07 19:29:41] Tod74 wrote:
> You are being called a scammer in the forum. two guys say you sold them this set up. Might want to tell your side.


havent sold to any one one guy sent me a deposit and was suppose to send the rest in one week or his deposit was lost they can call me what they wont i cant help a bunch of broke ass folks try to race with a wellfare budget thanks

Well Todd you and Mark and some of us other RJ members may just need to try to get us some welfare too.

Good job for you and Mark on getting Jake his parts.
His deposit was gone, but now the parts are some how paid in full.
Also I've been shipped many things ups and my name was spelled wrong or even had the wrong name on the pkg. UPS and fed Ex don't give a flip about a name or even confirm it, they drop off at the address even if nobody is there.

mopar1968
12-14-2010, 08:22 PM
Well let's just see if ''BerettaGT'' resent ''jake'' his part's :!: :!: JMO Mark

Harbone
12-15-2010, 04:25 AM
Deep down i think he likes me :!: What do you guy's think :?: :lol: :lol:

with that kinda cash he could be a 'sugar daddy" top all of us!!! :lol:

well I quess since we have all his bank info we dont need him, just all the money he has in that account!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what a frickin douchbag :!:

Incognegro
12-15-2010, 05:18 AM
There is no way that someone with that type of money in his bank account would be speaking with all of the improper/borderline retarded grammar. If it is true however, I'm moving to Mexico and starting up a drug trafficking business.

To me he sounds like a real uneducated POS!!!

Harbone
12-15-2010, 07:43 AM
Yep he is pissed : :lol: :lol:

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-14 16:58:11
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM


DO WHAT EVER U LIKE I DONT CARE I DONT HAVE TO SEAL MONEY I HAVE 985000 IN MY ACC WHAT DO U HAVE A WELLFARE CHECK AND JUST SO UR PUNK ASS KNOWS I HAVENT STOLE ANY BODYS MONEY SO f OFF BEFORE I REPORT U

Wow, just have to rip off a few more people to the tune of $15000 and you will be a "million dollar scumbag", thats great, congratulations :!:

Tod74
12-15-2010, 08:59 AM
He is just pissed off cause he has too much money to get the cheese.

TheRabbit
12-15-2010, 09:05 AM
There is no way that someone with that type of money in his bank account would be speaking with all of the improper/borderline retarded grammar. If it is true however, I'm moving to Mexico and starting up a drug trafficking business.

To me he sounds like a real uneducated POS!!!

I'm not saying he doesn' t have it. (Probably NOT) But, he could have inherited it or it may be his wives and he can't touch it, but I really doubt he made it or earned it.

Yep, I agree by his grammer and attitude he is right up there with the other idiots of the world.

Tod74
12-15-2010, 09:26 AM
I'm not saying he doesn' t have it. (Probably NOT) But, he could have inherited it or it may be his wives and he can't touch it, but I really doubt he made it or earned it.

Yep, I agree by his grammer and attitude he is right up there with the other idiots of the world.

or he left out the decimal point.

Besides...this is THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, where working hard and having money is discouraged,if he has that much money he should be made to GIVE the injection stuff away for free. :!:

Harbone
12-15-2010, 09:28 AM
most people with that kinda money sure as hell dont blab it out on a racing forum.
just another wannabe scammer that got outted. I hope the parts show up...

mopar1968
12-15-2010, 12:39 PM
I agree Chris i do hope ''jake'' get's his parts that he has paid for in full :!: :!: It was sent out at 2:57 on Dec 14 2010 :!: JMO Mark

MEMRACING62
12-15-2010, 01:11 PM
if its not a box of rocks sent to himself with woops the wrong address on it ! :shock:

bigray
12-15-2010, 01:24 PM
ooooooooooooohh, I know what he did,, he posted it, got the money, then went and bought it, and then shipped it,, and made a few bucks,,, it wasnt his in the begining,, untill he had a buyer for it,, GET IT >> :roll: :roll:

Tod74
12-15-2010, 01:47 PM
I saw a set up exactly like that sell for $1000 on ebay two weeks ago.

THERATTLER
12-15-2010, 02:31 PM
"DO WHAT EVER U LIKE I DONT CARE I DONT HAVE TO SEAL MONEY I HAVE 985000 IN MY ACC WHAT DO U HAVE A WELLFARE CHECK AND JUST SO UR PUNK ASS KNOWS I HAVENT STOLE ANY BODYS MONEY SO f OFF BEFORE I REPORT U"

I havn't laughed so hard since LITTLEHOTROD.
Mopar , he's gonna REPORT your punk a$$ to buford pusser..YYAAAHAAAHAAA :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

nopro
12-15-2010, 09:04 PM
when did the USPS care who's name is on the letter or package ?

Incognegro
12-16-2010, 05:47 AM
ooooooooooooohh, I know what he did,, he posted it, got the money, then went and bought it, and then shipped it,, and made a few bucks,,, it wasnt his in the begining,, untill he had a buyer for it,, GET IT >> :roll: :roll:
That makes sense, he bought it on ebay, and resold it.

mopar1968
12-16-2010, 10:08 AM
Now this is a nice guy ::

From: BerettaGT To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-12-16 12:26:02
Subject: Re: RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
Re: Ad #2032803 - RONS TERMINATOR FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM


U SOUND JUST LIKE A NIGGER. MESSY
On [2010-12-14 20:56:18] mopar1968 wrote:
> I have a job, I work for a living, i don't steal folks money like you do. Report me go on ahead.I have e-mailed the owner or RJ two days ago and told him to go to the forum and read this mess you have done.

MEMRACING62
12-16-2010, 12:15 PM
oh how nice....more of his character exposed. A true piece of chit.

mopar1968
12-16-2010, 12:44 PM
Oh he is just trying to get under my skin but i won't let him. I am pretty thick skined and he can't stand it :!: He will scam someone one day and they won't be as forgiving as jake was :!: :!: JMO Mark

Incognegro
12-26-2010, 11:41 AM
So did the part ever arrive??Was the OP scammed?

jake58
12-30-2010, 11:15 PM
The parts arrived, thanks to all you guys for your help i am still sure things would have turned out different with out your help.

BEAST477
12-31-2010, 02:40 AM
Good to hear you got your parts.

mopar1968
12-31-2010, 07:24 AM
Now don't run off come on back and see us :!: Glad to hear it worked out :!:





Mark

jenavet
01-09-2011, 05:43 PM
damn
that was impressive!! i am real proud of u guys helping jake out

mopar1968
01-09-2011, 05:47 PM
That's why we are here :!: :!: Among other thing's :!: :!:










Mark

lively
01-09-2011, 06:36 PM
MAN!!! I MISSED A GOOD ONE :cry: :oops:

wlpatterson
01-12-2011, 03:03 AM
Hes on my S--T List,& I buy lots of parts out here..His Attitude sux & I agree,The only way the Postoffice or any other shipper will not leave a package is if the person Recieving it refuses delivery....Sounds like a Thief got caught by the Sharks..