Tubes or no Tubes !!!

[Big409]

What is better tubes or no tubes in slicks. What do you run and why is it better? Thanks

[TheRabbit]

There are already several threads about tubes. Type in tubes in the search and you can find more.

http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=15140&highlight=tubes

[Tod74]

no tubes anymore but I used to run them. it was nice to never ever have the slicks go flat in the garage. I stopped using them for no other reason other than , everyone said not to run them. :)

[Big409]

no tubes anymore but I used to run them. it was nice to never ever have the slicks go flat in the garage. I stopped using them for no other reson other than , everyone said not to run them. :)


Are you happy? I just hate to spend the cash if I don't need to

[Tod74]

no tubes anymore but I used to run them. it was nice to never ever have the slicks go flat in the garage. I stopped using them for no other reson other than , everyone said not to run them. :)


Are you happy? I just hate to spend the cash if I don't need to

Well in that case NO TUBES. My car already had tubes when I bought it that's why I had them. I am happy I just park the car with jack stands under the rear end housing in case they leak down the cars weight isn't on the flat sidewall.


I'm almost positive the majority will tell you no tubes if you asked every person here that runs slicks.

jmo

[Big409]

[quote=Tod74]no tubes anymore but I used to run them. it was nice to never ever have the slicks go flat in the garage. I stopped using them for no other reson other than , everyone said not to run them. :)


Are you happy? I just hate to spend the cash if I don't need to

Well in that case NO TUBES. My car already had tubes when I bought it that's why I had them. I am happy I just park the car with jack stands under the rear end housing in case they leak down the cars weight isn't on the flat sidewall.


Thanks.

I'm almost positive the majority will tell you no tubes if you asked every person here that runs slicks.

jmo[/quote


Thanks !!!!

[Tod74]

If the car is heavy the tubes will help stiffen up the tire. I run a stiff sidewall goodyear because my car weighs 3200-3300 with me in it. Again,same as before...I run the stiff sidewall because people that I trust told me to.I have never tried any other tire .

The car seems to squat on the tire more since I took the tubes out but that might just be my imagination, who knows.I use the same tire now that I used with the tubes. 32-14 goodyear D5 COMPOUND D1984

[bjuice]

I run Tubes on a 3,000 lb 10.5 Oultaw car...never had tire shake Yet. I like the extra support on the heavier car with smaller tire Consistant 1.10 and 1.11 60fts.


ps. I even ran tubes on my high 5 second low 6 seconds cars also...just for the pure fact it was less hassle of putting air into them all the time.....my time is worth something...you go and add up all the time you spend placing air in leaky tires and you will find it will be the smartest $50.00/$100.00 one time spend you will ever make in Racing.


http://www.youtube.com/user/63topsportsman#p/u/3/dP9MzOuTs9I

Just my opinion only

[itsabird]

The thing that todd mentioned, plus if you have a chassis car, that hit the tires hard, you want stiffs and tubes.

[Tod74]

I only took mine out because people told me too. :(

I guess I didn't ask the right people huh? :)

As I said mine feels like it "squishes" down on the tire harder since I took em out...I assume that is because the tire is less stiff than it was with the tubes.

[Tod74]

I run Tubes on a 3,000 lb 10.5 Oultaw car...never had tire shake Yet. I like the extra support on the heavier car with smaller tire Consistant 1.10 and 1.11 60fts.


ps. I even ran tubes on my high 5 second low 6 seconds cars also...just for the pure fact it was less hassle of putting air into them all the time.....my time is worth something...you go and add up all the time you spend placing air in leaky tires and you will find it will be the smartest $50.00/$100.00 one time spend you will ever make in Racing.


http://www.youtube.com/user/63topsportsman#p/u/3/dP9MzOuTs9I

Just my opinion only

Brian, is that the issue people fear when they decide not to use tubes? Are they concerned about tire shake or is it the extra weight or what? As I said,the last time I bought tires I left them out just because people I talked to said "Aww you don't need them tubes.Take em out."

I loved the fact that they N E V E R went flat.

[bjuice]

I run Tubes on a 3,000 lb 10.5 Oultaw car...never had tire shake Yet. I like the extra support on the heavier car with smaller tire Consistant 1.10 and 1.11 60fts.


ps. I even ran tubes on my high 5 second low 6 seconds cars also...just for the pure fact it was less hassle of putting air into them all the time.....my time is worth something...you go and add up all the time you spend placing air in leaky tires and you will find it will be the smartest $50.00/$100.00 one time spend you will ever make in Racing.


http://www.youtube.com/user/63topsportsman#p/u/3/dP9MzOuTs9I

Just my opinion only

Brian, is that the issue people fear when they decide not to use tubes? Are they concerned about tire shake or is it the extra weight or what? As I said,the last time I bought tires I left them out just because people I talked to said "Aww you don't need them tubes.Take em out."

I loved the fact that they N E V E R went flat.

Tod the answer is Yes along with the other stuff you mentioned in general...just more stable in a heavier car..you have felt the difference in your own car as well...Most of the 10.5 guys around here run them and are really quick and glued to the track...My car has had some power thrown to it off the line..1300hp on motor,300 shot off the brake and another 350 in by 400ths out and yet to shake the tires with close to 2,000 hp all in well before the 60ft mark

I have heard excuses for not running them, heavy rotating weight etc......but thinking back the guys I heard saying this have not ran within 1/2 second of the guys running them....lol

When ever I get the chance Tubes and running as much Air Pressure as you can always is a good thing for stability particulary in heavier cars 2850 +

also the side walls on the higher hp cars start going away at about 20 passes...so the tubes are providing a saftey feature here as well

so I hope I answered your Question...the concern is definatley more in the Tire shake/ stability side of things rather then rotation Weight

[Big409]

I run Tubes on a 3,000 lb 10.5 Oultaw car...never had tire shake Yet. I like the extra support on the heavier car with smaller tire Consistant 1.10 and 1.11 60fts.


ps. I even ran tubes on my high 5 second low 6 seconds cars also...just for the pure fact it was less hassle of putting air into them all the time.....my time is worth something...you go and add up all the time you spend placing air in leaky tires and you will find it will be the smartest $50.00/$100.00 one time spend you will ever make in Racing.


http://www.youtube.com/user/63topsportsman#p/u/3/dP9MzOuTs9I

Just my opinion only

Brian, is that the issue people fear when they decide not to use tubes? Are they concerned about tire shake or is it the extra weight or what? As I said,the last time I bought tires I left them out just because people I talked to said "Aww you don't need them tubes.Take em out."

I loved the fact that they N E V E R went flat.

Tod the answer is Yes along with the other stuff you mentioned in general...just more stable in a heavier car..you have felt the difference in your own car as well...Most of the 10.5 guys around here run them and are really quick and glued to the track...My car has had some power thrown to it off the line..1300hp on motor,300 shot off the brake and another 350 in by 400ths out and yet to shake the tires with close to 2,000 hp all in well before the 60ft mark

I have heard excuses for not running them, heavy rotating weight etc......but thinking back the guys I heard saying this have not ran within 1/2 second of the guys running them....lol

When ever I get the chance Tubes and running as much Air Pressure as you can always is a good thing for stability particulary in heavier cars 2850 +

also the side walls on the higher hp cars start going away at about 20 passes...so the tubes are providing a saftey feature here as well



So would it be safe to say dragsters go with no tubes???

[BEAST477]

I don't run tubes anymore. I put two coats of dishwashing liquid inside on the sidewalls and I have fewer problems with air pressure changes during the day at the track. Also in the winter I put 20lbs in them put it on jack stands and they still have air in them 6 months later. Just what works for me. To each his own. Now it's just a coin toss for you. :lol:

[bjuice]

I run Tubes on a 3,000 lb 10.5 Oultaw car...never had tire shake Yet. I like the extra support on the heavier car with smaller tire Consistant 1.10 and 1.11 60fts.


ps. I even ran tubes on my high 5 second low 6 seconds cars also...just for the pure fact it was less hassle of putting air into them all the time.....my time is worth something...you go and add up all the time you spend placing air in leaky tires and you will find it will be the smartest $50.00/$100.00 one time spend you will ever make in Racing.


http://www.youtube.com/user/63topsportsman#p/u/3/dP9MzOuTs9I

Just my opinion only

Brian, is that the issue people fear when they decide not to use tubes? Are they concerned about tire shake or is it the extra weight or what? As I said,the last time I bought tires I left them out just because people I talked to said "Aww you don't need them tubes.Take em out."

I loved the fact that they N E V E R went flat.

Tod the answer is Yes along with the other stuff you mentioned in general...just more stable in a heavier car..you have felt the difference in your own car as well...Most of the 10.5 guys around here run them and are really quick and glued to the track...My car has had some power thrown to it off the line..1300hp on motor,300 shot off the brake and another 350 in by 400ths out and yet to shake the tires with close to 2,000 hp all in well before the 60ft mark

I have heard excuses for not running them, heavy rotating weight etc......but thinking back the guys I heard saying this have not ran within 1/2 second of the guys running them....lol

When ever I get the chance Tubes and running as much Air Pressure as you can always is a good thing for stability particulary in heavier cars 2850 +

also the side walls on the higher hp cars start going away at about 20 passes...so the tubes are providing a saftey feature here as well



So would it be safe to say dragsters go with no tubes???


Different Animals we are talking about here... the weight difference is the main thing....i would not be as concerned with Slicks in a rail as i would a high hp heavy door car...or a heavier door car in general ...

Juts like tranny's...i seen rails run 1.76 planaterys with stock casings forever running 4.70's in a bracket series....while this same tranny in a heavy door car is on edge every pass which ends up snapping the 1.76 every time

[Big409]

I run Tubes on a 3,000 lb 10.5 Oultaw car...never had tire shake Yet. I like the extra support on the heavier car with smaller tire Consistant 1.10 and 1.11 60fts.


ps. I even ran tubes on my high 5 second low 6 seconds cars also...just for the pure fact it was less hassle of putting air into them all the time.....my time is worth something...you go and add up all the time you spend placing air in leaky tires and you will find it will be the smartest $50.00/$100.00 one time spend you will ever make in Racing.


http://www.youtube.com/user/63topsportsman#p/u/3/dP9MzOuTs9I

Just my opinion only

Brian, is that the issue people fear when they decide not to use tubes? Are they concerned about tire shake or is it the extra weight or what? As I said,the last time I bought tires I left them out just because people I talked to said "Aww you don't need them tubes.Take em out."

I loved the fact that they N E V E R went flat.

Tod the answer is Yes along with the other stuff you mentioned in general...just more stable in a heavier car..you have felt the difference in your own car as well...Most of the 10.5 guys around here run them and are really quick and glued to the track...My car has had some power thrown to it off the line..1300hp on motor,300 shot off the brake and another 350 in by 400ths out and yet to shake the tires with close to 2,000 hp all in well before the 60ft mark

I have heard excuses for not running them, heavy rotating weight etc......but thinking back the guys I heard saying this have not ran within 1/2 second of the guys running them....lol

When ever I get the chance Tubes and running as much Air Pressure as you can always is a good thing for stability particulary in heavier cars 2850 +

also the side walls on the higher hp cars start going away at about 20 passes...so the tubes are providing a saftey feature here as well



So would it be safe to say dragsters go with no tubes???


Different Animals we are talking about here... the weight difference is the main thing....i would not be as concerned with Slicks in a rail as i would a high hp heavy door car...or a heavier door car in general ...



Juts like tranny's...i seen rails run 1.76 planaterys with stock casings forever running 4.70's in a bracket series....while this same tranny in a heavy door car is on edge every pass which ends up snapping the 1.76 every time


I wish I would of found you guys sooner, I really like this sight. My dad was a old timer and did not like this stuff. He just did not know anything else ,but try it ,work, try it ,and cuss a lot :) Thanks again for all your help.

[mikeaton]

ever had a tube come apart in a burn out or at the big end? well its not good. i decieded to pitch the inner liners and tubes and just run the slicks! and the double bead locks as well.

[spib]

I mounted some quick time pros on my wifes 67 this last yr, 4,000lbs or more
a guy told me to use this on both sides of rim lip right before mounting,
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=9400
no tubes no leaks
I have tubes on my blazer
wont run them again

[cepx111]

ever had a tube come apart in a burn out or at the big end? well its not good. just run the slicks! .

I have, and it wasn't pretty, a friend of mine lost in the finals due to a tube failure, talk about disappointing.

I've never ran tubes in any of my cars, usually if they leak it's one of three things, a leaky valve stem ($2 fix) or seepage which in that case, a $2 dollar bottle of dish soap works wonders or you have a hole in the slick somewhere that needs addressed.....

To whomever, feel free to edit my post at will.

Chow>Cp

[bjuice]

ever had a tube come apart in a burn out or at the big end? well its not good. just run the slicks! .

I have, and it wasn't pretty, a friend of mine lost in the finals due to a tube failure, talk about disappointing.

I've never ran tubes in any of my cars, usually if they leak it's one of three things, a leaky valve stem ($2 fix) or seepage which in that case, a $2 dollar bottle of dish soap works wonders or you have a hole in the slick somewhere that needs addressed.....

To whomever, feel free to edit my post at will.

Chow>Cp


Don't come back in here throwing Punches unless you like being punched Charles..I assure you I ain't no Punk (ON OR OFF INTERNET)..I can Let this go if you People think you can get over it as well....This is Old News Man...lets move on or Don't start whinning when I swing back !!!


Now...Happy Thankgiving


PS
I apologize to the orginal poster for the small Hi-jack we had someone who didn't have enough respect for his fellow Forum member.To keep his low blows elsewhere..like PM'S

[TheRabbit]

I mounted some quick time pros on my wifes 67 this last yr, 4,000lbs or more
a guy told me to use this on both sides of rim lip right before mounting,
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=9400
no tubes no leaks
I have tubes on my blazer
wont run them again

I use to run tubes a few years ago. I had one tube that had been in a tire so long it bonded to the tire. It was a pain in the azz to cut it all out. Still never got it all out and I'm sure the tire was out of balance , but that's not a problem for my tires. I do use a little black silicone around the bead to keep from leaking, but it's a pain to clean the bead when you put another tire on.
If it's a rim problem I've also had to use a little green slime. Wipe it all over the rim don't pour it in through the valve stem it takes way to much to do it that way.