Possibly a bit overpriced?

[hollowayshotrods]

WOW :!: :shock: :shock:

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/pts/2014564901.html

[MEMRACING62]

Hmmm....dont know...I paid $400 for the grill emblem for my 71 GMC Sprint.....best deal I could get some went for $700....if ya need it ya pay :cry:

[bjuice]

the steering wheel came off rare piece..thats for sure...but can't say what the parts for these go for.

[dragonmaster093]

you could probibly get one from aftermarket for like 2200-2400 less just not a original but to mee its way over priced

[bjuice]

you could probibly get one from aftermarket for like 2200-2400 less just not a original but to mee its way over priced

if you don't have an all orginal 1966 shelby GT with a missing steering wheel I would say its over priced.....lol

point i am making is give us Facts why you come to the conclusion this original part (steering wheel) is over priced....also before you start making your point aftermarket parts do not come into play when your restoring with orginal parts

[dragonmaster093]

i was just giving my opinion is all plus
http://www.carrollshelbyenginecompany.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16166&cat=271&page=1
seeen shelby wheels on line from 275 repo to 3500 but this one is from carroll shelbys site

[Scotty2]

it's the old story....want to play got to pay :P

[hollowayshotrods]

I am sorry I didn't do any research before I started this thread!
The FACT is, I was just trying to make some conversation among friends, it seems to have upset some folks..........sorry about that. I have no idea if it is overpriced, and really don't give a crap if it is or isn't.
JUST TRYING TO MAKE CONVERSATION WITH FRIENDS IS ALL I WANTED TO DO!!
DRAGON, thanks for adding the Shelby site info, that should clear some things up.

BTW, did anyone notice I started the thread as a QUESTION, not a statement?


you could probibly get one from aftermarket for like 2200-2400 less just not a original but to mee its way over priced

if you don't have an all orginal 1966 shelby GT with a missing steering wheel I would say its over priced.....lol

point i am making is give us Facts why you come to the conclusion this original part (steering wheel) is over priced....also before you start making your point aftermarket parts do not come into play when your restoring with orginal parts

[bjuice]

I am sorry I didn't do any research before I started this thread!
The FACT is, I was just trying to make some conversation among friends, it seems to have upset some folks..........sorry about that. I have no idea if it is overpriced, and really don't give a crap if it is or isn't.
JUST TRYING TO MAKE CONVERSATION WITH FRIENDS IS ALL I WANTED TO DO!!
DRAGON, thanks for adding the Shelby site info, that should clear some things up.

BTW, did anyone notice I started the thread as a QUESTION, not a statement?


you could probibly get one from aftermarket for like 2200-2400 less just not a original but to mee its way over priced

if you don't have an all orginal 1966 shelby GT with a missing steering wheel I would say its over priced.....lol

point i am making is give us Facts why you come to the conclusion this original part (steering wheel) is over priced....also before you start making your point aftermarket parts do not come into play when your restoring with orginal parts


whoooooo Rudy...ain't nobody upset here.....can I not make a statement on a thread ?...i'm i not your friend ?

if you think i should not be able to post my opinion on a thread or ask someone some facts or for their opinions let me know why.

also why did you change your original post ? I didn't think we would have to stamp your post as we do many who change up in Mid- Flight...
so no-one can see if you were asking a statment or Question cause you Changed it....Why ?

but if thats how you want mine and your on-line releationship thats fine..I can treat you the same as i do other people that come in here that have tried to jingle my balls over the years...... so i have no problems with This..

just didn't expect it would come down to you Rudy....oh well so be it....ok ball in your court.

[MEMRACING62]

I work the swap meets with a friend that does a lot of selling, he is into 30's & 40's fords, it amaze's me sometimes what some parts will bring & what some dont. repops are the last resort if you are doing a true resto. when I was chasing down that stupid grill emblem I was like a kid on christmas morning waiting for the ups truck!! :lol: Its hard to find a part to a car that they made 4100 of. :wink:

[MEMRACING62]

I cant see why anybody would get there fur up about anything in this thread, heck, I laugh at myself at what I will pay for something if I realy want it. ITS ALL IN FUN! :)

[bjuice]

I cant see why anybody would get there fur up about anything in this thread, heck, I laugh at myself at what I will pay for something if I realy want it. ITS ALL IN FUN! :)

i see it the same way mem...I wonder who Rudy thought got Upset...maybe somebody made a post and deleted it real fast...i dunno know.

So if thats the case Rudy and you WERE NOT speaking toward me, then over look my Post

[bjuice]

nahhh never mind...rudy aimed that at me...i saw where he stamped my Post at the bottom of his reply....Gezzz...Wtf...beleieve it or not i still ainlt Upset...maybe a little disapointed but thats it.

[hollowayshotrods]

Brian,
Treat me as you wish, don't make the mistake of thinking I will run from you though. If you are my friend you would be able to take what I said with a grain of salt! Of course you are my friend, if I "jingled your balls" so be it. I have had my balls jingled by my friends as well! Damn that sounds weird!!!!! Folks that are really friends don't get too wadded up about very small matters during conversation.

Now, my beef with you is to question my integrity/credibility because I did an edit to my post......................................Helluva accusation to suggest I changed the title to my thread to make myself look better! I resent that considering I have been here for nearly three years, not so much as a peep about my integrity. I am a PAYING member AND make my honor payments. Not much more I can do to represent myself as a respectable person.
I did my edit to ADD the last sentence in my post, the one below:
"BTW, did anyone notice I started the thread as a QUESTION, not a statement?"
I would think with all your moderator tools, you can check to see if I changed the title to my thread. (I am being serious, not sarcastic).

If my integrity is questionable to you, feel free to ignore me and remove me from your friends list on the "other side" of RJ. I hope it doesn't come to that, but if it does "so be it".




I am sorry I didn't do any research before I started this thread!
The FACT is, I was just trying to make some conversation among friends, it seems to have upset some folks..........sorry about that. I have no idea if it is overpriced, and really don't give a crap if it is or isn't.
JUST TRYING TO MAKE CONVERSATION WITH FRIENDS IS ALL I WANTED TO DO!!
DRAGON, thanks for adding the Shelby site info, that should clear some things up.

BTW, did anyone notice I started the thread as a QUESTION, not a statement?


you could probibly get one from aftermarket for like 2200-2400 less just not a original but to mee its way over priced

if you don't have an all orginal 1966 shelby GT with a missing steering wheel I would say its over priced.....lol

point i am making is give us Facts why you come to the conclusion this original part (steering wheel) is over priced....also before you start making your point aftermarket parts do not come into play when your restoring with orginal parts


whoooooo Rudy...ain't nobody upset here.....can I not make a statement on a thread ?...i'm i not your friend ?

if you think i should not be able to post my opinion on a thread or ask someone some facts or for their opinions let me know why.

also why did you change your original post ? I didn't think we would have to stamp your post as we do many who change up in Mid- Flight...
so no-one can see if you were asking a statment or Question cause you Changed it....Why ?

but if thats how you want mine and your on-line releationship thats fine..I can treat you the same as i do other people that come in here that have tried to jingle my balls over the years...... so i have no problems with This..

just didn't expect it would come down to you Rudy....oh well so be it....ok ball in your court.

[TheRabbit]

I cant see why anybody would get there fur up about anything in this thread, heck, I laugh at myself at what I will pay for something if I realy want it. ITS ALL IN FUN! :)

I use to laugh, but after years of buying crap and doing things I should have never done now I cry. I could have a small fortune in the bank with all the $ I've peed away. (and still going to pee away).
I have plans to one day sell all my stuff for what I THINK IT'S WORTH. :lol:

[Harbone]

I usually have to pay someone to "jingle my balls"!!
on a more serious note I hope that we can all calm down, step back and take a breathe. We already lost Scorp to bickering, it almost makes me sick... :(

[dragonmaster093]

brian i kinda took what you said you were snapping at me hence why i put my second post i know to run down original oem parts is a m/f and there ar a/h who want to retire off our passion and if some one on here gets testy or what i presume to be snappy i just figure they are having a bad day. we all know when it comes to car the value is in on knowledge, how bad its needed and what someone can squeeze out of us. just dont wanna see us old guys bickering over opinions and bad days

thanks guys

[Tod74]

I don't think Brian was "snapping" at anyone or belittleing anyone etc etc.AND RUDY IN MY OPINION I do not think he or anyone else was questioning your integrity. I think he was just pointing out that original parts can be hard to find and if someone is restoring a car as original then they will pay what they need to to get the parts they need. Just my take on it I sorta think things got misunderstood by many,that's all.

[MEMRACING62]

brian i kinda took what you said you were snapping at me hence why i put my second post i know to run down original oem parts is a m/f and there ar a/h who want to retire off our passion and if some one on here gets testy or what i presume to be snappy i just figure they are having a bad day. we all know when it comes to car the value is in on knowledge, how bad its needed and what someone can squeeze out of us. just dont wanna see us old guys bickering over opinions and bad days

thanks guys What makes somebody an a/h for putting something out on the market for sale & asking a high price. supply & demand will determine its actual value with the final sale price, that's buisness!

[Tod74]

What makes somebody an a/h for putting something out on the market for sale & asking a high price. supply & demand will determine its actual value with the final sale price, that's buisness!

I agree.That's why I like EBAY, Because my asking price is always the same "all I can get"

[dragonmaster093]

all im saying is there is a dair price and then there are the other guys
just like the guys who want tons for a plapped out car but then they want to give nothing for what you have im more of a fair price i might start out high but that way i have wiggle room for what i want and everyone comes out feeling like they won i get close to what i actually want and the other person feels they got me talked down.

[cepx111]

i have wiggle room for what i want and everyone comes out feeling like they won i get close to what i actually want and the other person feels they got me talked down.

I hear ya Sam. Just like a good deal.

Definition of a good deal: When both parties think the other guy got screwed :lol:

[suicidebomb]

It's a bit early for "jingle balls", we ain't got Halloween, and Thanksgiving, over yet. :wink:

[Tod74]

all im saying is there is a dair price and then there are the other guys
just like the guys who want tons for a plapped out car but then they want to give nothing for what you have im more of a fair price i might start out high but that way i have wiggle room for what i want and everyone comes out feeling like they won i get close to what i actually want and the other person feels they got me talked down.

good points however nobody holds a gun to someones head and forces them to buy something. It is their choice to either pay the price, buy a repop, or walk away completely. There are people out there that will try and take advantage of you though. That's why you should never post that you are looking for a certain dated ,certain casting number block or trans etc.
Once someone knows you are building something date correct etc there are people that will jack the price up because they know you are more likely to pay.

[MEMRACING62]

We purchase a lot of our tools, equipment etc at auction. if you are at an auction and are interested in an item, look over it , make sure it is what you want & without problems you can see......dont hover over it or show to much interest in it, in most cases you are being watched by the equipment owner or his shill. dont be the first one to bid it, be one of the last. sellers look for the guy with his tongue hanging out of his mouth with the gotta have it eyes. If you are that guy, you will be bidding against the owner. DONT CATCH AUCTION FEVER!!

[bjuice]

I don't think Brian was "snapping" at anyone or belittleing anyone etc etc.AND RUDY IN MY OPINION I do not think he or anyone else was questioning your integrity. I think he was just pointing out that original parts can be hard to find and if someone is restoring a car as original then they will pay what they need to to get the parts they need. Just my take on it I sorta think things got misunderstood by many,that's all.

your SPOT on tod74...I been on here (RJ) 8 years in April and i have seen it all, i know who starts Chit and Who don't.
with that said this Thread doesn't deserve anymore of my attention. its ricidiculous.

Rudy last thing i will say to you is this....i Thought we were cyber frineds ( or at least i was to you but i see you clear now)....i am good with it all ..i do not participate much..i just hang in the shadows cleaning up people's mess..but when i DO POST there is no ill intent involved toward anyone...My how the site has changed from the Old Days !!!...good ole USA of the "Offended".....lol :D


oh yeah.... someone go and ask "One bad GMC" where playing "Jingle the Admins Balls will get you ?"

[Harbone]

"oh yeah.... someone go and ask "One bad GMC" where playing "Jingle the Admins Balls will get you ?"

I must have missed that one!! :lol:

[bjuice]

"oh yeah.... someone go and ask "One bad GMC" where playing "Jingle the Admins Balls will get you ?"

I must have missed that one!! :lol:


where is he ?

[hollowayshotrods]

Later guys! I can be reached at the email below if you want to contact me.
[email protected]
Going to have a beer with scorp.

[MEMRACING62]

I JUST CANT SEE WHERE ANYONE WOULD HAVE GOTTIN OFFENDED IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS THREAD THAT WOULD TOUCH OFF SUCH A PISSING MATCH. :? EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE GETTING SO EDGY. TIME TO LIGHTIN UP A BIT.....GEEEEZ!

[MEMRACING62]

I usually have to pay someone to "jingle my balls"!!
on a more serious note I hope that we can all calm down, step back and take a breathe. We already lost Scorp to bickering, it almost makes me sick... :( X2! :(

[Tod74]

"oh yeah.... someone go and ask "One bad GMC" where playing "Jingle the Admins Balls will get you ?"

I must have missed that one!! :lol:

I remember that one. It was a thread about building your own engine vs paying a Pro.

[Tod74]

I usually have to pay someone to "jingle my balls"!!
on a more serious note I hope that we can all calm down, step back and take a breathe. We already lost Scorp to bickering, it almost makes me sick... :(

Well if people blame me for that one then that is too bad I suppose. I respectfully asked him if he knew something for a fact or if he was assuming. He decided to get sarcastic. I showed several sites that suggested he may be wrong and he got upset.Never did he offer anything to back up his statements., other than "I've been to college and you have not" type of statements. He listed "Business Law" as his occupation in his profile. People see that and assume he knows what he is saying. I believe in that instance he was incorrect,at least partially. If he left because of that disagreement then he needs to get thicker skin.I don't just blindly accept anything as truth from an annonymous internet poster. Anyone that reads that thread can see that my first response that started that whole mess was very respectfull. He was the one who started the sarcasm and down talking. With that said I'm sorry he left. He did a lot to help people.

[MEMRACING62]

NO ..NO..TOD, no blame, I thought it was a good topic for a spirited discussion. just dont know how it so quickly turned into a spitting match. knowbody knows it all & I try to learn from everybodys experiences. On the point you were making in that thread I agree with you, I am in court about once a month to testify on eviction notices that I have served. I will say this, there is the law as written, and there is what the judge says it is (at least here in cook co il) , and that will vari from judge to judge.

[Harbone]

Later guys! I can be reached at the email below if you want to contact me.
[email protected]
Going to have a beer with scorp.


damn... :x

[Scorpion1110]

I usually have to pay someone to "jingle my balls"!!
on a more serious note I hope that we can all calm down, step back and take a breathe. We already lost Scorp to bickering, it almost makes me sick... :(

Well if people blame me for that one then that is too bad I suppose. I respectfully asked him if he knew something for a fact or if he was assuming. He decided to get sarcastic. I showed several sites that suggested he may be wrong and he got upset.Never did he offer anything to back up his statements., other than "I've been to college and you have not" type of statements. He listed "Business Law" as his occupation in his profile. People see that and assume he knows what he is saying. I believe in that instance he was incorrect,at least partially. If he left because of that disagreement then he needs to get thicker skin.I don't just blindly accept anything as truth from an annonymous internet poster. Anyone that reads that thread can see that my first response that started that whole mess was very respectfull. He was the one who started the sarcasm and down talking. With that said I'm sorry he left. He did a lot to help people.

Last post here Tod.

So what do I do? Do you know? Should you even care? Likely not but since you want to quote my profile and Business law, let me share.

I handle Qualified Plans Compliance- Essentially working with pension and other types of programs to ensure legal and requlatory compliance- these are called ERISA Plans- Employee Retirement Income Security Act programs. I work with attorneys daily including two ERISA Counsel and two firms in DC and Baltimore.

Did you know that nearly every position comment I placed on here I vouched with Counsel? Why? To ensure that the info was CORRECT. Granted its not a useful as your regularly inane posts and comment nonsense like "Where is my Fishtank" . That's always been a huge help on the scammer Forum.

As for saying"I went to college and you didnt" - misquote Partner. Read the posts- I said that is the position that my instructor took. I also mentioned she was a presiding judge so I was confident of that info. I didnt mention that I floated it over lunch with Counsel- And why would I? It doesnt measure up to your web citations :)

I know exactly what got your panties in a knot :)

What I will do for you is send a link to your posts on Centerline wheels to them directly. I doubt they will do anything, but maybe if your multitude of web sources are correct perhaps they will find you of interest.

Of course if its just your opinion maybe not.

And I dont have a thin skin Tod- I just dont like you.

S

[Harbone]

Hi Scorp :!:

[dragonmaster093]

hey scorp man i didnt mean to make everybody riled up because of my opinions sorry guys

[ajk]

What a shame that it has to go this direction. Sometimes you have to agree to disagree. Looks like a matter of opinion. Everyone is allowed one...JMO

[Tod74]

I usually have to pay someone to "jingle my balls"!!
on a more serious note I hope that we can all calm down, step back and take a breathe. We already lost Scorp to bickering, it almost makes me sick... :(

Well if people blame me for that one then that is too bad I suppose. I respectfully asked him if he knew something for a fact or if he was assuming. He decided to get sarcastic. I showed several sites that suggested he may be wrong and he got upset.Never did he offer anything to back up his statements., other than "I've been to college and you have not" type of statements. He listed "Business Law" as his occupation in his profile. People see that and assume he knows what he is saying. I believe in that instance he was incorrect,at least partially. If he left because of that disagreement then he needs to get thicker skin.I don't just blindly accept anything as truth from an annonymous internet poster. Anyone that reads that thread can see that my first response that started that whole mess was very respectfull. He was the one who started the sarcasm and down talking. With that said I'm sorry he left. He did a lot to help people.

Last post here Tod.

So what do I do? Do you know? Should you even care? Likely not but since you want to quote my profile and Business law, let me share.

I handle Qualified Plans Compliance- Essentially working with pension and other types of programs to ensure legal and requlatory compliance- these are called ERISA Plans- Employee Retirement Income Security Act programs. I work with attorneys daily including two ERISA Counsel and two firms in DC and Baltimore.

Did you know that nearly every position comment I placed on here I vouched with Counsel? Why? To ensure that the info was CORRECT. Granted its not a useful as your regularly inane posts and comment nonsense like "Where is my Fishtank" . That's always been a huge help on the scammer Forum.

As for saying"I went to college and you didnt" - misquote Partner. Read the posts- I said that is the position that my instructor took. I also mentioned she was a presiding judge so I was confident of that info. I didnt mention that I floated it over lunch with Counsel- And why would I? It doesnt measure up to your web citations :)

I know exactly what got your panties in a knot :)

What I will do for you is send a link to your posts on Centerline wheels to them directly. I doubt they will do anything, but maybe if your multitude of web sources are correct perhaps they will find you of interest.

Of course if its just your opinion maybe not.

And I dont have a thin skin Tod- I just dont like you.

S

Wow..you don't like me. BOO HOO.
I don't like you either Scorp. You are a know it all prick. You act like everyone should bow down to you because you can look people up on intellis or whatever the hell you use.

I aknowledged that you know more than I do about legal issues.That is obvious. I respectfully asked a question and you got sarcastic. I couldn't care less what you send to CENTERLINE I posted the facts.
I agree you can't believe everything you read. The links I posted were from legal websites. One referenced what I think is refered to as case law but it doesn't matter. I don't pretend to know the law, THAT'S WHY I ASKED!! Yet all you did was cop an attitude because I dared to question you.

I will say you are more than likely correct. My issue was your attitude. When asked if your statement was fact or assumption you decided to talk down to me. You can keep talking about the FISH TANK post all you want. You have now posted "Where's My Fishtank?" more than I have. That was a lame joke tossed in I think 2 times in LITTLEROD threads that had already gotten completely off topic.

This is a racing forum and I have yet to see you contribute one bit to that aspect of it. You're too busy pretending to be a lawyer.


Now you can go screw yourself for all I care.

[Harbone]

I think this forum has finally hit its wall... :(

[MEMRACING62]

midol....extra strenght needed here. :roll:

[BEAST477]

:shock: :oops: :cry: and a Forrest Gump quote "That's all I have to say about that"

[bjuice]

I think this forum has finally hit its wall... :(


nnnnahh its all good Chris..as my old Boss use to say...."It takes more then One monkey to run this show" and I have seen some Monkies on here the last few years.

I been in the shadows the last few Months and what I have seen more then Not is people jumping the gun before they have the facts, getting their feelins hurt,talking trash about the site then threaten to quit the site..and almost in that order........I been biting my tongue until now...

[Harbone]

I think this forum has finally hit its wall... :(


nnnnahh its all good Chris..as my old Boss use to say...."It takes more then One monkey to run this show" and I have seen some Monkies on here the last few years.

I been in the shadows the last few Months and what I have seen more then Not is people jumping the gun before they have the facts, getting their feelins hurt,talking trash about the site then threaten to quit the site..and almost in that order........I been biting my tongue until now...

well then Brian, speak up and lets here it!

[bjuice]

I think this forum has finally hit its wall... :(


nnnnahh its all good Chris..as my old Boss use to say...."It takes more then One monkey to run this show" and I have seen some Monkies on here the last few years.

I been in the shadows the last few Months and what I have seen more then Not is people jumping the gun before they have the facts, getting their feelins hurt,talking trash about the site then threaten to quit the site..and almost in that order........I been biting my tongue until now...

well then Brian, speak up and lets here it!


I will guarantee if someone goes to other sites and starts jumping conclusions and complaining (all the time about somthing) and Putting down the Site,talking trash to Mod's,admins and Site owners..I WILL BET ALL I HAVE that person will not be around long..

Like it or Not Racingjunk is the best full racing site out there..and Yes this is My opinion after 8 years of hanging around...

What I really think is Members and long time guest need to concentrate on upholding the site and saying good things about it instead of talking down about evertyhing they get the chance to and then threaten to quit the site like they are so important on here to where the site will not make it without them..to be honest i am glad to see people sign off for good that has this kind of attitude... it brings the site down...just look at this thread.


for the record i am not speaking of Scorp nor do i have any issues with Tod...they are both grown men and i hope they work it out among themselves even it means coming down not liking each other and not speaking on-line...Both contribute to this site with little complaning...so these 2 guys need to stay around they IMO are not weakening the site with childish raves

To set the record straight i am not Mad or ill at anyone just fed up with the childish acts and tempers some keep reverting to everytime they mis-interrput something or Jump the Gun......those i am speaking of know who they are..if anyone feels un-comfortable after reading this..then you may want to look at what your doing on this site..(Helping or Hurting )


Now i am done...i am sure there are some tempers fuming right Now...and thats fine with me,Cause i owe No-one on here Nothing but the Facts !!!!!

[cepx111]

I just wanna know one thing Brian, why can't you capitolize your i's ?
also I luv vinegar sandwhiches...just wanted to let you guys know.
Cp

[MEMRACING62]

What the heck is with guys these day? Man....quit sitting around looking for reasons to be insulted, this is a racing site, not the cooking and afgan knitting forum....TIME TO METAL UP AND LIGHTIN UP!! :wink:

[bjuice]

I just wanna know one thing Brian, why can't you capitolize your i's ?
also I luv vinegar sandwhiches...just wanted to let you guys know.
Cp



Hows that Charile "I"

Don't Worry Mem good ole CP is one of those my post made squirm,,he just didn't have the will power to stay off the bait.....

Hang tight it (my post) will draw more of them out like Rats and there will be some smart enough to lay off.

I didn't know you like water sanwhiches Charlie ?...keep on and I am sure you will spill the beans what you really like..people like you can't help it they gotta keep talking and spilling the beans.......lol

[MEMRACING62]

:lol: :lol:

[Harbone]

Brian,
Good to have you back! Now lets get some scammers, talk about cars, drag racing and women! :D

[DirkaDirka]

Hey Brian,

I think what you said hit the nail on the coffin. I was thinking of making a thread about all the BS that has gone on here. All the childish antics and temper tamtruns I think have gone on long enough. RJ is the first site that I have joined and have felt like a family member on. Yeah I am on a couple others but this site is what started it all. I will never leave this site. This site has some great people that I hope I will be able to meet one day and possibly run against. I know I have said much on here lately but I do check in every night my time.

I just hope that we can all get back to the way that we were.

[mopar1968]

Tod what i want to know is why don't you have a pic of that ''MOPAR'' you own in your profile :?: Yes that's right a ''MOPAR'' :!: :!: JMO Mark

[topsportsman1]

You can tell winter is coming,some guys got to get their thick skins on :P :P :P :P


Where else can you go and have this much fun guys...j/k
Glad Brian decided to come back and make some posts,kinda takes the heat off me,I been kinda scared to post around here for some time :P

[Harbone]

You can tell winter is coming,some guys got to get their thick skins on :P :P :P :P


Where else can you go and have this much fun guys...j/k
Glad Brian decided to come back and make some posts,kinda takes the heat off me,I been kinda scared to post around here for some time :P

hahahahaaaaa!!!!!

[Tod74]

Tod what i want to know is why don't you have a pic of that ''MOPAR'' you own in your profile :?: Yes that's right a ''MOPAR'' :!: :!: JMO Mark

IT JUST GOT HIT BY A FREAKING DEER!!!! :x :x $2800 damage.

I drive a $400 POS day in day out back and forth to work. I also drive my 1 ton crew cab 4x4 Dually pretty regular. (You can see it in the background of my sig pic. )As soon as I get a nice car BOOM!! :x This is the 3rd time I've had a DEER run into me.

[Scooterz]

Hello Everyone. Been gone a few days selling product to all the hunting junkies out there (2011). I get back & I see this thread.

Look- I am not the best at temper control & staying out of pissing matches. I got my flaws... said a few dumb things here & there too... I guess social graces are not my best attribute.

I see these threads lately- sucks. We are the "Sharks", unified by our love for motor sports, hot rods, drag racing, killing scammers, etc... we are a family that should not be separated like this. Been here years now & I feel like I have friends away from home.... all over. There are things said that are pretty tough to take back. People are bailing out. Here is what I don't get: we are all here for similar reasons... bound by our love for cars. We are all pretty conservative, we all seem to be a lot alike, many of us are believers in God too. We help each other, we help those in need, we help those who have been scammed, bring some to justice... as a team. This team is breaking down some here.... so what are we gonna do??? walk away & raise the middle finger??? Come on. This team is no different than a football team; we make threads little by little, one by one, like a football team does inches. We give some, we gain some. So why the hell are we turning on each other lately??? Hell, if I am wrong about something, I will give you back a YARD. I owe you that as your friend. I gotta suck it up & say: "OOPS, I screwed up again" "sorry fellas" my bad. Are we so damn good that we have lost an open mind for a different view??? As yourself this question: are we different now than 5 years ago???? I don't think so. So, how much do those inches mean to you then??? You gonna keep them??? Are they to precious that we can't give a few away & all admit they we are a MOTLEY CREW in the fist place??? It worked 5 years ago when we were a team. Now- it seems some need to be right more than friends. Piss on that pride & give some damn inches back!!! I guess we will see who is truly a friend by who stays & works out these things.... be humble & give an inch. Scooter

[mopar1968]

Amen scooter, We need to swallow some pride and admit when we are wrong :!: I think we all have had battles on here but we have always worked them out together :!: :!: We all have different opinions that is what makes this site so great :!: So come on guy's let's get it back together again :!: :!: JMO Mark

[Scooterz]

Yep Mark, you are so right. We all have had a issue or two in the past, one way or another. We need to huddle up & remember all those things said in the past. We type our communication!! there is little small talk; we have all shared some serious pain, had many laughs, etc.... some of us have poured our GUTS OUT in times of trial. You all know what I am talking about.... think about it. The team is under attack.

Together here we have seen: Death, addiction, disease, divorce, people have lost family, seen some hard stuff here... openly talked about the pain life brings to our tables. We have won too!! Scammers have seen justice!! People we know have healed when we were not sure they had another day left. We made deals, scored some killer ETA's, jumped lights, spun bearings, wiped cams & BLEW OUT SYNCHROS!!!! Many things have happend on here... we all took it together on the chin at the end of the day.... supporting each other one way or another.

Now this crap? Come on. We are better. It is simple: we are under attack. We gonna give in?? Too hard to fix?? Bull-chit.

[cepx111]

I just wanna know one thing Brian, why can't you capitolize your i's ?
Cp
This was my original post guys, somebody added the other part, somebody with site admin privilages.

[Harbone]

I just wanna know one thing Brian, why can't you capitolize your i's ?
Cp
This was my original post guys, somebody added the other part, somebody with site admin privilages.

Really :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

[cepx111]

I just wanna know one thing Brian, why can't you capitolize your i's ?
Cp
This was my original post guys, somebody added the other part, somebody with site admin privilages.

Really :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Really>Cp

[Harbone]

I do believe (correct me if I am wrong) even if a Mod "edits" a post it will show the post has been edited, that post does not show that...

[BEAST477]

I do believe (correct me if I am wrong) even if a Mod "edits" a post it will show the post has been edited, that post does not show that...

Hmmm, that's interesting. Because the very first post in this thread doesn't say anything about being edited. :?

[Harbone]

I do believe (correct me if I am wrong) even if a Mod "edits" a post it will show the post has been edited, that post does not show that...

Hmmm, that's interesting. Because the very first post in this thread doesn't say anything about being edited. :?

interesting... :?

[hollowayshotrods]

Beast and harbone,
My second post in this thread I DID edit. It originally showed as having been edited, it no longer does, I wonder why? At NO TIME did I edit my original post OR thread subject line.
The edit was to add:

BTW, did anyone notice I started the thread as a QUESTION, not a statement?

We know that something was edited, our moderator said so himself. (see below)
Maybe the moderator could investigate this and let us know. I would look into CPs situation as well if I was the moderator. I am curious as to why the moderator TWICE edited his response to this if changing something is so terribly wrong.
The ball is no longer in my court.

bjuice
Site Admin


Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Posts: 2944
Location: Greenville s.c.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:25 pm Post subject:

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hollowayshotrods wrote:
I am sorry I didn't do any research before I started this thread!
The FACT is, I was just trying to make some conversation among friends, it seems to have upset some folks..........sorry about that. I have no idea if it is overpriced, and really don't give a crap if it is or isn't.
JUST TRYING TO MAKE CONVERSATION WITH FRIENDS IS ALL I WANTED TO DO!!
DRAGON, thanks for adding the Shelby site info, that should clear some things up.

BTW, did anyone notice I started the thread as a QUESTION, not a statement?


bjuice wrote:
dragonmaster093 wrote:
you could probibly get one from aftermarket for like 2200-2400 less just not a original but to mee its way over priced


if you don't have an all orginal 1966 shelby GT with a missing steering wheel I would say its over priced.....lol

point i am making is give us Facts why you come to the conclusion this original part (steering wheel) is over priced....also before you start making your point aftermarket parts do not come into play when your restoring with orginal parts




whoooooo Rudy...ain't nobody upset here.....can I not make a statement on a thread ?...i'm i not your friend ?

if you think i should not be able to post my opinion on a thread or ask someone some facts or for their opinions let me know why.

also why did you change your original post ? I didn't think we would have to stamp your post as we do many who change up in Mid- Flight...
so no-one can see if you were asking a statment or Question cause you Changed it....Why ?

but if thats how you want mine and your on-line releationship thats fine..I can treat you the same as i do other people that come in here that have tried to jingle my balls over the years...... so i have no problems with This..

just didn't expect it would come down to you Rudy....oh well so be it....ok ball in your court.
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"I'M YOUR HUCKLEBERRY ! "

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[Harbone]

Beast and harbone,
My second post in this thread I DID edit. It originally showed as having been edited, it no longer does, I wonder why? At NO TIME did I edit my original post OR thread subject line.
The edit was to add:

BTW, did anyone notice I started the thread as a QUESTION, not a statement?

We know that something was edited, our moderator said so himself. (see below)
Maybe the moderator could investigate this and let us know. I would look into CPs situation as well if I was the moderator. I am curious as to why the moderator TWICE edited his response to this if changing something is so terribly wrong.
The ball is no longer in my court.

bjuice
Site Admin


Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Posts: 2944
Location: Greenville s.c.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:25 pm Post subject:

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hollowayshotrods wrote:
I am sorry I didn't do any research before I started this thread!
The FACT is, I was just trying to make some conversation among friends, it seems to have upset some folks..........sorry about that. I have no idea if it is overpriced, and really don't give a crap if it is or isn't.
JUST TRYING TO MAKE CONVERSATION WITH FRIENDS IS ALL I WANTED TO DO!!
DRAGON, thanks for adding the Shelby site info, that should clear some things up.

BTW, did anyone notice I started the thread as a QUESTION, not a statement?


bjuice wrote:
dragonmaster093 wrote:
you could probibly get one from aftermarket for like 2200-2400 less just not a original but to mee its way over priced


if you don't have an all orginal 1966 shelby GT with a missing steering wheel I would say its over priced.....lol

point i am making is give us Facts why you come to the conclusion this original part (steering wheel) is over priced....also before you start making your point aftermarket parts do not come into play when your restoring with orginal parts




whoooooo Rudy...ain't nobody upset here.....can I not make a statement on a thread ?...i'm i not your friend ?

if you think i should not be able to post my opinion on a thread or ask someone some facts or for their opinions let me know why.

also why did you change your original post ? I didn't think we would have to stamp your post as we do many who change up in Mid- Flight...
so no-one can see if you were asking a statment or Question cause you Changed it....Why ?

but if thats how you want mine and your on-line releationship thats fine..I can treat you the same as i do other people that come in here that have tried to jingle my balls over the years...... so i have no problems with This..

just didn't expect it would come down to you Rudy....oh well so be it....ok ball in your court.
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"I'M YOUR HUCKLEBERRY ! "

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OK, now I am VERY curious as to whats going on?
I need a little input from a Mod, how does this happen and why??

[mopar1968]

I am too Chris i would like to hear this also :!: :!: JMO Mark

[mopar1968]

Tom- Please correct me if i am wrong but didn't i see you and some guy {can't remember his name} in a pissing match on here a few months back :?: I believe he was a Mod at one time, Didn't he change some post or something and you Busted him for it :?: JMO Mark

[Scooterz]

Lame lame LAME!!

Are we now to the point where we can't even talk about a steering wheel civilly??? mods changing posts??? WHY? Is that true? Will someone at least explain the story & if it is true?

[BEAST477]

Yeah, I'm a little confused. I would like to know what a Mod can and can't do. I understand someone has to be in charge but what are the limitations? Can they change posts? Can they check our pm's? Just curious.

[Harbone]

Well I am about done here for the day, I hope to check in later and see a reply from Tom or Brian. I think we all deserve a straight answer.

[bjuice]

Can't tell you what I know nothing of...thats what I am talking about Guys..I Don't know if a post was edited or Not.....Personally for anyone to get on here and Blame a Mod or anyone else for something without having proof is the same stuff that has had this site upside down to Begin with.. ..Just for conversation sake sometime a post will read edit and sometime it will not...just look back at a post made by me earlier in this thread...it states in BLACK AND WHITE EDIT...My point is if you don't have proof don't start pointing fingers Bottom Line

But this is what I do Know...This site has gotten out of control because of Chit makers..people who complain and that care Nothing about this site but only for starting trouble etc.....

I for one will step up to the plate and take some blame for not cutting this off to begin with ..I should have cut the troubles makers off at the knee's but I thought it would handle itself...I WAS WRONG

But I can assure all of you the trouble makers will be dealt with from this point foward..I am declaring war on you (trouble makers) Now.....There is no loyalty to this site or Mods/admin or owners of RJ by these trouble makers...and the bad thing is that I have personally STOOD up and or helped,spoke on the phone,shared race space information to the same people who are causing the trouble... NO LOYALTY !!!!.....I have not metnioned names..but as I said when I aired this out ( Per chris request)...the guilty dawgs are barking loudly..

So as Tom said get your thick skin out ...if anyone thinks this post is gonna get diverted and start hammering the site and Mods or anyone else then your fixing to see what Moderation of Old is all about.

for those of you wanting to know what the limitations or Job duites of a Mod are....then let me tell you...Its to keep trouble makers in line and run them off if necessary...BOTTOM LINE !

You guys don't think we can't see who is burning up the pm's with one another..lol...We know who you are.

I am dedicated to taking back the forum from the trouble makers ,whinners,two face, un-loyal peckerwoods.....and if you ( trouble makers) want to quit the site go right ahead and do us all a favor...cause I will gurantee someone will be there to take your place !!!!

if you ain't down with taking back our site then take your ass on somewhewre else if they will have you...I can assure you I am gonna go toe to toe with you Trouble makers....cause you Guys aren't my friends...a friend will not back stab, and try to destroy something we all work to Build....I would not have a friend with these credentials

if these answer ain't good enough for some of you...tough Chit !


Bottom line you are on board and will become productive supportive members of this forum or you will not..and I WILL SAY IT AGAIN REAL LOUD AND CLEAR...IF YOUR NOT ON BOARD I AM GONNA HELP YOU TO THE DOOR....and I think its safe to say My counter part has got my back....enough of the bullchit guys....its over for the Clowns !!!!

And if this reply was not quick enough for some of you...sorry but i have a life outside of sitting here babysitting some cybers whinners.

Fine print Disclaimer/Warning:
This post was not directed at the supportive,productive forum members but instead was intended for the back stabbing,trouble making,jumping to conclusion,Anti RJ forum people... WARNING...If you find yourself reading this post and you feel its aimed at you personally then you may want to re-valuate your particpation on the site.

[bjuice]

Beast and harbone,
My second post in this thread I DID edit. It originally showed as having been edited, it no longer does, I wonder why? At NO TIME did I edit my original post OR thread subject line.
The edit was to add:

BTW, did anyone notice I started the thread as a QUESTION, not a statement?

We know that something was edited, our moderator said so himself. (see below)
Maybe the moderator could investigate this and let us know. I would look into CPs situation as well if I was the moderator. I am curious as to why the moderator TWICE edited his response to this if changing something is so terribly wrong.
The ball is no longer in my court.

bjuice
Site Admin


Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Posts: 2944
Location: Greenville s.c.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:25 pm Post subject:

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hollowayshotrods wrote:
I am sorry I didn't do any research before I started this thread!
The FACT is, I was just trying to make some conversation among friends, it seems to have upset some folks..........sorry about that. I have no idea if it is overpriced, and really don't give a crap if it is or isn't.
JUST TRYING TO MAKE CONVERSATION WITH FRIENDS IS ALL I WANTED TO DO!!
DRAGON, thanks for adding the Shelby site info, that should clear some things up.

BTW, did anyone notice I started the thread as a QUESTION, not a statement?


bjuice wrote:
dragonmaster093 wrote:
you could probibly get one from aftermarket for like 2200-2400 less just not a original but to mee its way over priced


if you don't have an all orginal 1966 shelby GT with a missing steering wheel I would say its over priced.....lol

point i am making is give us Facts why you come to the conclusion this original part (steering wheel) is over priced....also before you start making your point aftermarket parts do not come into play when your restoring with orginal parts




whoooooo Rudy...ain't nobody upset here.....can I not make a statement on a thread ?...i'm i not your friend ?

if you think i should not be able to post my opinion on a thread or ask someone some facts or for their opinions let me know why.

also why did you change your original post ? I didn't think we would have to stamp your post as we do many who change up in Mid- Flight...
so no-one can see if you were asking a statment or Question cause you Changed it....Why ?

but if thats how you want mine and your on-line releationship thats fine..I can treat you the same as i do other people that come in here that have tried to jingle my balls over the years...... so i have no problems with This..

just didn't expect it would come down to you Rudy....oh well so be it....ok ball in your court.
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"I'M YOUR HUCKLEBERRY ! "

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Damn Rudy who said editing your post was wrong ????..u directed that at me but I hate to tell you it wasn't me that began the crying and bitchin about editing...that be your Ole Friend CP......LOL...hell I might edit my own post 15 times cause I can't type.....or forget to capitize My "i''s"....again ask Ole CP he's my best whitness.....lMAO :evil:

just keep the story and facts on track and direct it to the right person. or don't post at all...this is where it gets twisted...fair enough ?

[cepx111]

Just for the record, my original was edited, but not by me and I do have proof, I already spoke with Tom about it, I'm just stating the FACT that my post was edited to make me look like a whiner, trouble maker or whatever.

I've been a good member, I love this site, I have made many productive posts and rarely if EVER get involved in pissing matches, I let this thread lay for 4 pages before I said one word and it was just a poke to try and lighten the mood, you BRIAN obviously took as an attack, whatever dude, you clearly have issues you need to deal with.

I've met many fine folks on here Brian, some will be life long friends, and it's sad to see it get to this, but I will not stand for post editing WITHOUT my concent or knowledge PERIOD.

Now as far as the finger pointing is concerned, I didnt point a finger at anyone, just ask Tom, I merely said it wasn't me that edited my post and tried in vain to make me look bad.
I'm pretty sure a regular forum member can't edit my personal posts so IMO that narrows it down to about 3 people, Tom, PJ and you.
So whatever dude, I'm outta here.

Heads up guys, theres a snake in the grass.

Chow>Cp

[Scooterz]

Alright, I see what both you guys said here. I hear you both...

Personally, I believe CP. He says his post was edited by someone other than himself. Plain & simple....

Juice- I hear you. We need not feed the trouble makers... they should play elsewhere. Where the hell is our team lately??? We all got along great not too long ago!!! What is the damn problem these days???

Question: Can it be found who edited Cp's post? If so, can it be proven & posted here to expose the truth? Here is how I see it: if someone edited his post, lets put em' on trial right here. CP has been a good member for some time now. It is a shame to see good folks bail.

[bjuice]

Just for the record, my original was edited, but not by me and I do have proof, I already spoke with Tom about it, I'm just stating the FACT that my post was edited to make me look like a whiner, trouble maker or whatever.

I've been a good member, I love this site, I have made many productive posts and rarely if EVER get involved in pissing matches, I let this thread lay for 4 pages before I said one word and it was just a poke to try and lighten the mood, you BRIAN obviously took as an attack, whatever dude, you clearly have issues you need to deal with.

I've met many fine folks on here Brian, some will be life long friends, and it's sad to see it get to this, but I will not stand for post editing WITHOUT my concent or knowledge PERIOD.

Now as far as the finger pointing is concerned, I didnt point a finger at anyone, just ask Tom, I merely said it wasn't me that edited my post and tried in vain to make me look bad.
I'm pretty sure a regular forum member can't edit my personal posts so IMO that narrows it down to about 3 people, Tom, PJ and you.
So whatever dude, I'm outta here.

Heads up guys, theres a snake in the grass.

Chow>Cp


Horse Hocky there CP...there you go spinning again...YOU DON'T HAVE TO POINT A FINGER DIRECTLY AND SAY NAMES WHEN YOU MAKE THE ACCUSATIONS YOU DID CP...GIVE ME A BREAK !!!...DON'T PLAY SYMANTICS WITH ME....I am sure you have met some good friends on here thats what the site is for........cause if you was a part of the TEAM and wanted to help straighten things out here on RJ after I made my 1st Post you would have said nothing at the least or got in behind me...but instead you wanted to be a smart ass about the "i" comment...that shows your commitment right there CP...its in black and white...PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY YOU MADE THE COMMENT CHARLIE,RIGHT AFTER A SERIOUS POST..WHAT WERE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH...AT BEST YOU HAD HORRIBLE TIMING CP.....yOU CAN SIT HERE AND SAY YOU WANTED TO LIGHTEN THE MOOD AND ALL THAT CHIT...THATS REALLY CONVEINANT TO SAY AT THIS POINT....YOU SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT BEFORE YOU TYPED...IT WASN'T THE TIME FOR OPEN END ONE LINERS

And don't Worry Tom and I are in contact

When I made my post I knew the guilty would chime in on the post...not only was you the 1st one to chime in but was also the 1st to TRY and bust my chops.....Now your backing up on it...if this was the case you should have been expalining that several pages ago


Yeah and you right...I got some problems right Now....had about 4 of them as of yesterday...now your taking your ball and going home...that leaves me 3 problems.

Would love you to hang around but it is what it is there Charlie....

oh yeah... by the last few of my post should be proof that I don't need to change post to get my point across..I will say it to your face or should i say forum.


No snake in the grass Folks...just a disgruntled member called out on the carpet casuse he could not get away with a personal Jab .

And for you Honest members that want a good forum to come to without the crying,bitchin moaning etc.....hang around....we might have a few more leave before its done...but when its over we will have it (forum) back running like it should be


Trust me Charlie and anyone else interested...I knew ahead of time when I blew the lid off this I would not be the most popular among the whinners....but its worth it to get the site back on track.

[bjuice]

Alright, I see what both you guys said here. I hear you both...

Personally, I believe CP. He says his post was edited by someone other than himself. Plain & simple....

Juice- I hear you. We need not feed the trouble makers... they should play elsewhere. Where the hell is our team lately??? We all got along great not too long ago!!! What is the damn problem these days???

Question: Can it be found who edited Cp's post? If so, can it be proven & posted here to expose the truth? Here is how I see it: if someone edited his post, lets put em' on trial right here. CP has been a good member for some time now. It is a shame to see good folks bail.

Scoot IF his post was edited I have No clue how to finger print this...the 1st time I saw his post it was as it was...just like sometime when you edit your post it will show edited at the bottom and sometime it won't...i have no answer to this...then he came back on here stating that his post was edited and made the accusations toward a Mod and I got news for CP and others..there are some very savy computer people out here that editing a post is simple beans for them.....Cp won't admit it but he made his "i" post comment cause he wanted to be a smart a$$ now he is saying he did that to lighten the Mood...Bullcrap....what many do not remember is that Cp took a Cheap shot at me months back and I let it ride...i just didn't let him get by with it this time...besides this thread had nothing to do with CP in the begining....My inbox has been full of complaints to clean up the site with trouble makers and Chit Starters..Well i finally did just that...

...post editing is not the problem here...read thru all the post...I just called the hand of some of the whinners,complainers etc...I have been seeing over the last few months...these same people have down played the site ( RJ),talked Junk on the owner of the site ( personal stuff) and kept something stiring all the time..along with threatening to quit the site all the time...Don't get me wrong 99% of the members are great but there are 3 or 4 that I am sick of hearing their crap...

[Scooterz]

Fair enough. Just sorry to see the turmoil here lately. Nonetheless, it is still a special place to be & a lot of good people here. I want to get back to the balance again... you know? Got my new 68 Chevelle & I will be on here looking for parts, resto stuff, getting tips/advice, etc... good times. Let's heal up & regroup people.

[hollowayshotrods]

Brian,
List your troublemakers and why you think they are troublemakers. Lets have a "forum hearing" and decide who is right and who is wrong. If your pm box is burning up with complaints then I think that would be best. Your personal "war" with the troublemakers isn't the way to go. In all fairness, you have the mod button, not us. List the names of the troublemakers you suggest we have in the regulars here. I agree to leave if deemed a troublemaker, would you? Would anyone else? Your opinion shouldn't be the only one heard, you don't like me, so, of course ANYTHING I say that you don't agree with will be used to form your opinion of me.............deeming me a troublemaker. I can and have admitted when I have been wrong. Will you?

I can believe your explanation of the editing situation.......Maybe every now and then it doesn't say it was edited. I just wonder why Charlie would lie about it though (not saying he lied) if in fact he did.

In closing, you suggested you guys are reading our pms!! Is nothing private anymore?

[mopar1968]

I agree let's get this site back to where it should be :!: I really don't know what happened and not to step on any toes i don't care to :!: I come on here maybe make a comment or may not but i do have friends i always PM and say hello to :!: JMO Mark

[Tod74]

Yeah, I'm a little confused. I would like to know what a Mod can and can't do. I understand someone has to be in charge but what are the limitations? Can they change posts? Can they check our pm's? Just curious.

I ain't got a dog in this fight but I will say that I know mods have the capability to edit your post. not saying someone did or didn't here, but if they want to they can. I have also seen on other boards where mods edit out things that are not allowed. I've seen posts say "I'm an idiot and can't read the forum rules" etc.

Not refering to this thread just trying to give my opinion on the answer to beasts question. Don't know about pm's.

[BEAST477]

Yeah I was wondering what a vinegar sandwhich was also. Maybe I live too far north to understand. :?

In all seriousness though I hope things get back to normal on here.

[Scooterz]

I have seen a few pissing matches lately... I got into one myself. I have seen good people (whom I thought were friends) get upset at each other too. Long term RJ dudes that are good people are not getting along sometimes. That is some sick mo-jo voodoo devil work....

Troublemakers are obvious... we all can name a few. They don't last too long. But they are not people I remember being here for years at a time. So the question is why not is this team coming apart now???

I don't think people should throw the mods under the bus. I have no problem saying that I don't think Juice (I mean Brian) is intending on spying, changing or altering peoples posts or reading thier PM's. He is a part of our group/friendship here.

That said, there are probably technical issues beyond our control & the mods radar... plus hackers who cause problems too. Could it be that some people got thier wires crossed & we just need to forgive & get back to the regular stuff?

[BEAST477]

I agree with you Scooter. We need to patch things up and move on. I think some things were said and taken the wrong way. Everybody has a bad day now and then, sometimes even a bad month. I'm no better than anyone else on here and don't claim to be. So lets step back take a deep breath and regroup if that's possible.

Later guys.

Mike

[bjuice]

Brian,
List your troublemakers and why you think they are troublemakers. Lets have a "forum hearing" and decide who is right and who is wrong. If your pm box is burning up with complaints then I think that would be best. Your personal "war" with the troublemakers isn't the way to go. In all fairness, you have the mod button, not us. List the names of the troublemakers you suggest we have in the regulars here. I agree to leave if deemed a troublemaker, would you? Would anyone else? Your opinion shouldn't be the only one heard, you don't like me, so, of course ANYTHING I say that you don't agree with will be used to form your opinion of me.............deeming me a troublemaker. I can and have admitted when I have been wrong. Will you?

I can believe your explanation of the editing situation.......Maybe every now and then it doesn't say it was edited. I just wonder why Charlie would lie about it though (not saying he lied) if in fact he did.

In closing, you suggested you guys are reading our pms!! Is nothing private anymore?

I will not list Names that will turn this into a Bond Fire..MY POST IS WORKING AS IT WAS DESIGNED TO..THE BIT DAWGS ARE BARKING LOUDLEY...notice some members aren't even touching this thread ..you want to Know why ?..they aren't causing the problems and agree with what I am doing.. but let me narrow some time frame down to where I was reading a lot of Bullchit until Now that made me Sick...
July 4th up thru today and it goes way beyond this time period.

Rudy you need to slow down and read a mans post word for word and except it as it is written by the man and stop turning it into something you want it to be...thats where the trouble starts...I said we can see who is pm'ing back and forth with each other..I said nothing of being able to read pm's...your stiring Chit again..Prime example #1...you have badly mis-qouted me 2 TIMES in this one thread that could and can cause a bad misunderstanding...typing before you think never works on a forum


Oh my goodness look...its an EDIT.....Run forrest Run !!!!!!....lol :shock: :evil:

[bjuice]

One last thing about Ole Charlie and i am moving on..

Let me ask you guys something ?

How many of you Make a Post "New" or "Reply" and imediatley copy the ORGINAL post so you and re-post it at a later time ?

I mean Charlie just happen to have his original post on hand and re-posted it to show everyone what he really posted the 1st time...


I smell Bullchit here......let me tell you I saw the man's 1st post he made and it never changed..did any of you see two different post ???..you should have if someone other then Charlie edited his post...


I will also say if I was gonna edit someone post I would have a lot better things to say about them than "water Sandwhich"..I am like Beast what is that ??

Charlie is more like " waffle eating waterhead"....now thats more like me.... :twisted: :D

[MEMRACING62]

From my experience with editting , if you edit before someone else posts a reply to your post it will not say eddited on the post. I edit all the time after I post for spelling and missing words (darn public school education :roll: )

[Harbone]

I wasnt blaming any mods, just asking questions. This has obviously been blown WAY out of proportion. nuff said...

[hollowayshotrods]

Brian,
Show me where I misquoted you, please! I didn't say you guys WERE reading our pms........I said your post SUGGESTS it. When you SUGGEST something you are merely opening the possibility of it happening. In all honesty I, like Scooter do not believe you guys spy on us.

You are damn right some of us were pissed about the USA flag not flying high and proud on the 4th of July. If you REALLY knew what transpired with me about that, you would know I conversed with PJ about that very subject, his explanation was VERY sufficient to me and we ended the conversation with mutual respect. It boiled down to the art department doing a lousy job of designing the 4th banner! I believe PJ and the rest of the crew are good Americans. If you were bothered about it then, you should have piped up about it then....not months later. If you didn't know it until just recently.........where were you then as moderator when we needed you?
If something pisses you off, say something then. Don't bottle it all up for one big hissy fit. Just because it makes YOU sick doesn't mean it makes everyone else sick.

In one of your previous posts you said this is a big problem.......people saying chit without evidence or proof. Take your own advice, if you are going to say there are troublemakers....prove it and tell us why they are troublemakers or don't say it at all. I hardly think a man voicing his opinion of oppositon makes him/her a troublemaker. I will be part of the jury(unless I am the defendant) :shock: ........I'm not skeeeered! I have seen all the guys that have a post in this thread, I know of none of them being whiners or troublemakers. Some guys don't say anything because they KNOW they can't win a fight with a moderator! I unfortunately am not smart enough to realize that.....or I speak up when I have something to say REGARDLESS of who you are, I am not sure which it is.

I strongly sense you are having other (serious) problems than this forum. If so, good luck to you Brian as I do think you are a good guy and a decent human being. If you are having difficult times, don't let it cloud your judgement in here. You are coming off as waging a war against folks you don't like, that is one problem when you have ONE MONKEY running the show. :wink:

I do not now, nor have I EVER tried to turn something into something it's not. Show me where I have STIRRED UP ANY CHIT.
Bottom line:
You were a smart aleck to me and dragon and it just didn't sit well with me at the time. It is ok to be wrong every now and then, I know this because I am wrong sometimes too.

I guess you last comment about the edit (run forest run) wasn't meant to be smart either I suppose. Like you said Brian, read your words before you hit that reply button.

No, I have never seen anyone keep their quote for later use.




Brian,
List your troublemakers and why you think they are troublemakers. Lets have a "forum hearing" and decide who is right and who is wrong. If your pm box is burning up with complaints then I think that would be best. Your personal "war" with the troublemakers isn't the way to go. In all fairness, you have the mod button, not us. List the names of the troublemakers you suggest we have in the regulars here. I agree to leave if deemed a troublemaker, would you? Would anyone else? Your opinion shouldn't be the only one heard, you don't like me, so, of course ANYTHING I say that you don't agree with will be used to form your opinion of me.............deeming me a troublemaker. I can and have admitted when I have been wrong. Will you?

I can believe your explanation of the editing situation.......Maybe every now and then it doesn't say it was edited. I just wonder why Charlie would lie about it though (not saying he lied) if in fact he did.

In closing, you suggested you guys are reading our pms!! Is nothing private anymore?

I will not list Names that will turn this into a Bond Fire..MY POST IS WORKING AS IT WAS DESIGNED TO..THE BIT DAWGS ARE BARKING LOUDLEY...notice some members aren't even touching this thread ..you want to Know why ?..they aren't causing the problems and agree with what I am doing.. but let me narrow some time frame down to where I was reading a lot of Bullchit until Now that made me Sick...
July 4th up thru today and it goes way beyond this time period.

Rudy you need to slow down and read a mans post word for word and except it as it is written by the man and stop turning it into something you want it to be...thats where the trouble starts...I said we can see who is pm'ing back and forth with each other..I said nothing of being able to read pm's...your stiring Chit again..Prime example #1...you have badly mis-qouted me 2 TIMES in this one thread that could and can cause a bad misunderstanding...typing before you think never works on a forum


Oh my goodness look...its an EDIT.....Run forrest Run !!!!!!....lol :shock: :evil:

[Scooterz]

Welp, I have read everyone's post & I think all you guys are good Americans like Rudy said. I do see that we have got our wires crossed... which sucks... but all are good people who are a lot alike.

This a strong group... has been for awhile. That is why I am here. I may be guilty of talking on here too much, but it is because of the great people. I like the fact that there is little idle-chat... we do get to the point & there is substance to many posts.

I see a few folks have said something to the effect of thinking more before they make a post/reply. That is wisdom my brethren. I too am guilty of firing off a comment with little/no thought... working on that still.

I don't know the ultimate solution to recent grumblings & what has been said here, but I will leave you all with this from our the Bible: "Be slow to anger, slow to speak, & quick to listen". :wink:

[Harbone]

"Be slow to anger, slow to speak, & quick to listen".

amen Scooter :!:

[TheRabbit]

I really don't have much to say about all of this, but don't forget that no matter what you read you usually take it worse than how it was meant to be. When you only read something you don't get to see or hear the tone or expressions the person would say it with. 99% of the time it's not near as bad as you take it.
I'm not gonna say much more on this thread because I think most all of the regular guys and mods have good intentions with what they say and do on here and this was never meant to become a peeing match.

Almost any time somebody stamps your post and ask a question about it, it kinda does put you in automatic ticked off defense mode if you're a regular on the forum. That's just a part of a being on a forum, but it still easily start a mess like we have here.

[Tod74]

Welp, I have read everyone's post & I think all you guys are good Americans like Rudy said. I do see that we have got our wires crossed... which sucks... but all are good people who are a lot alike.

This a strong group... has been for awhile. That is why I am here. I may be guilty of talking on here too much, but it is because of the great people. I like the fact that there is little idle-chat... we do get to the point & there is substance to many posts.

I see a few folks have said something to the effect of thinking more before they make a post/reply. That is wisdom my brethren. I too am guilty of firing off a comment with little/no thought... working on that still.

I don't know the ultimate solution to recent grumblings & what has been said here, but I will leave you all with this from our the Bible: "Be slow to anger, slow to speak, & quick to listen". :wink:

I agree scooter but at the same time this is a forum for learning, helping and entertainment. I am not saying it is ok to attack someone but I do not think every post has to be completely serious. I am more guilty than anyone of tossing out a one liner that has nothing to do with the topic. Sometimes I do it in an attempt to be funny and sometimes I am just trying to lighten the mood. Sometimes I am just bored. I agree there are times when it isn't appropriate...but we have enough stress and problems in our life. We don't need our online "life"( for lack of a better term) to be stressful as well. At least I don't. I come here to pass time and have a few laughs, and if I can answer a question every now and then and help someone learn from mistakes I've made then that's even better.

[MEMRACING62]

I really don't have much to say about all of this, but don't forget that no matter what you read you usually take it worse than how it was meant to be. When you only read something you don't get to see or hear the tone or expressions the person would say it with. 99% of the time it's not near as bad as you take it.
I'm not gonna say much more on this thread because I think most all of the regular guys and mods have good intentions with what they say and do on here and this was never meant to become a peeing match.

Almost any time somebody stamps your post and ask a question about it, it kinda does put you in automatic ticked off defense mode if you're a regular on the forum. That's just a part of a being on a forum, but it still easily start a mess like we have here. EXACTLYDont take everything as an attack!! did anyone notice in brians comment on the steering wheel it ended with , LOL. It was meant in fun & everybody jumped on it like it was an attack :? guys.....lightin up. :) were all here for fun....save the attacks for the scammers(after you know they realy are one). :wink:

[Tod74]

I really don't have much to say about all of this, but don't forget that no matter what you read you usually take it worse than how it was meant to be. When you only read something you don't get to see or hear the tone or expressions the person would say it with. 99% of the time it's not near as bad as you take it.
I'm not gonna say much more on this thread because I think most all of the regular guys and mods have good intentions with what they say and do on here and this was never meant to become a peeing match.

Almost any time somebody stamps your post and ask a question about it, it kinda does put you in automatic ticked off defense mode if you're a regular on the forum. That's just a part of a being on a forum, but it still easily start a mess like we have here. EXACTLYDont take everything as an attack!! did anyone notice in brians comment on the steering wheel it ended with , LOL. It was meant in fun & everybody jumped on it like it was an attack :? guys.....lightin up. :) were all here for fun....save the attacks for the scammers(after you know they realy are one). :wink:

Oh yeah....this is a thread about a steering wheel aint it.

boy talk about getting off topic. :)

[TheRabbit]

Todd I love your smart azz 1 liners. I type quit a few and delete 'em before I post 'em simply because most people don't know me or how to take me and get mad. I've always been a smart azz and all my friends growing up were too. No harm intended, it's just how we laughed at each other every day.

If this forum was about nothing but parts and tech help, it would be boring and I wouldn't be here long. To me it's about yacking with friends and other gearheads about whatever including some of the lumps life deals us and some of the things they are proud of like their families.
As far as giving advise on racing stuff. I don't give much 'cause I don't want to make myself look to stupid. I do ok own my own, but I send all my big stuff to guys that do it for a living that cost way to much, but I know it's right (suppose to be) come race day, but I do try to participate in the conversation if I can.