MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers.

[SUPERBARTMAN]

Mike senior is undependable. Will mislead you and promise a trade then the day before and day of the trade he won't even answer his phone. He is very undependable, and a bottom feeder. I am just glad that i didn't do the trip depending on what he said. He should be banned from RJ!

[bjuice]

Ok WTF ?......So u call the guy a feww names...now stop and tell us what happened !

[Scooterz]

'reneggers".... you sound like you want to hang those reneggers & make them pay...

Why don't you explain what the reneggers did... do the reneggers have an ad #???

[Scorpion1110]

Mike senior is undependable. Will mislead you and promise a trade then the day before and day of the trade he won't even answer his phone. He is very undependable, and a bottom feeder. I am just glad that i didn't do the trip depending on what he said. He should be banned from RJ!

This the same Mike in your prior post? Mike Jenkins from Florence SC? Now its Mike and Mike in Ocala.

Same Mike plus one?

Multiple Mikes in different states?

Or do you just have problems with Mikes in general?

here's the link from your prior post:

http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?p=109914&highlight=#109914

And if its the same why are you clogging up forum space with multiple posts when you can piece the whole thing together with one post. Of course you know that from this exchange with Holiday;

I got this from the kid that posted this SECOND thread about the same hoopla. Always a smart ass reply from some jerk off that doesn't understand the forum.

From: reddnova
To: hollowayshotrods
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:10 pm
Subject: thread
I was just seeing if I could bring it current. I want people to know about this scammer.

By the way are you the hall patrol, monitor and why do you ask. My question is what is it to you.
_________________


So what gives Reddnova, and why should anyone want to help you when it looks pretty obvious you are just playing games?

Scorp

[SUPERBARTMAN]

This is not the same Mike in Florence. He has never come on here to defend himself. He had his wife do it for a short time. I would say he has changed his name on here now.

I just get sick of people setting up trades then the night before the trade they stop communicating, phone calls and emails are not answered etc. All you traders know what I mean. In my case Mike senior set up the trade along with when and where to meet. I am usually open on time and was this time. I have learned to to leave for the trade meeting unless you get a commitement that they will be there.

The thing that pisses me off is Mike requested that I change the car from e-85 back to street gas. I did so in the sweltering heat for a good part of a day just to get it the way he wanted it. Now I will change it back.

I just bothers me when guys like Mike set up the deal then aren't man enough to let you know they have backed out. They just quit answering their phone etc. the night before. meanwhile my car is sitting on the trailer ready to make the 300 plus mile trip to meet Mike and trade it to him just the way he wanted it. Mike wasted way too much of my time. Yes that pisses me off!

[Scooterz]

This is not the same Mike in Florence. He has never come on here to defend himself. He had his wife do it for a short time. I would say he has changed his name on here now.

I just get sick of people setting up trades then the night before the trade they stop communicating, phone calls and emails are not answered etc. All you traders know what I mean. In my case Mike senior set up the trade along with when and where to meet. I am usually open on time and was this time. I have learned to to leave for the trade meeting unless you get a commitment that they will be there.

The thing that pisses me off is Mike requested that I change the car from e-85 back to street gas. I did so in the sweltering heat for a good part of a day just to get it the way he wanted it. Now I will change it back.

I just bothers me when guys like Mike set up the deal then aren't man enough to let you know they have backed out. They just quit answering their phone etc. the night before. meanwhile my car is sitting on the trailer ready to make the 300 plus mile trip to meet Mike and trade it to him just the way he wanted it. Mike wasted way too much of my time. Yes that pisses me off!


When explained as above, I have empathy for your situation. I agree- call & give notice of a change or backing out. This is a common complaint seen here; yet it does not make someone a scammer... it does make them a flake though. He wasted a lot of your time... which translates to money as well.

[Scorpion1110]

This is not the same Mike in Florence. He has never come on here to defend himself. He had his wife do it for a short time. I would say he has changed his name on here now.

I just get sick of people setting up trades then the night before the trade they stop communicating, phone calls and emails are not answered etc. All you traders know what I mean. In my case Mike senior set up the trade along with when and where to meet. I am usually open on time and was this time. I have learned to to leave for the trade meeting unless you get a commitement that they will be there.

The thing that pisses me off is Mike requested that I change the car from e-85 back to street gas. I did so in the sweltering heat for a good part of a day just to get it the way he wanted it. Now I will change it back.

I just bothers me when guys like Mike set up the deal then aren't man enough to let you know they have backed out. They just quit answering their phone etc. the night before. meanwhile my car is sitting on the trailer ready to make the 300 plus mile trip to meet Mike and trade it to him just the way he wanted it. Mike wasted way too much of my time. Yes that pisses me off!

Sorry- not buying what you are selling.

Two deals, three mikes and two posts where you are complaining about getting the short end of the deal or not liking how you are treated.

Did you ever think that the problem might be the common denominator-you?

Did you ever wonder if how you are acting with people is causing them to blow off the deal or just decide not to deal with you?

Your posts and complaints suggest a trend. And I can't recall a poster getting on here twice and complaining about bad deals within a 6-month span.

And if you are a stand-up guy- then I would suggest you avoid dealing with any seller named Mike.

Scorp

[Scorpion1110]

Got this from Reddnova today - :)

Why don't you stay the f off my posts. If I wanted your opinion I would have invited you to express it. You know what they say opininions are like assholes and you are beginning to smell like one. By the way is your name Mike too?

Sounds like the guy you'd want to deal with doesn't he?

Can't make a deal without crying about the other guy and then when you point that out he cries because you dont agree with him.

I am not the guy who can't seem to get along with sellers- YOU ARE.

Scorp

[mopar1968]

Dang dude you came here to get help or vent, If you don't want it then don't post it :!: :!: Scorp didn't start this thread YOU did :!: :!:

[MEMRACING62]

Why don't you stay the f off my posts. If I wanted your opinion I would have invited you to express it. You know what they say opininions are like assholes and you are beginning to smell like one. By the way is your name Mike too?---------- WHAT A DICKHEAD :roll: MUST HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST MIKE'S. ONE OF US MUST HAVE KICKED HIS AZZ BACK IN GRADE SCHOOL! :twisted:

[ss427nova]

Got this from Reddnova today - :)

Why don't you stay the f off my posts. If I wanted your opinion I would have invited you to express it. You know what they say opininions are like assholes and you are beginning to smell like one. By the way is your name Mike too?

Sounds like the guy you'd want to deal with doesn't he?

Can't make a deal without crying about the other guy and then when you point that out he cries because you dont agree with him.

I am not the guy who can't seem to get along with sellers- YOU ARE.

Scorp

Damn, and I was wanting to work a trade with this guy! hahahah

[bbchevy]

Got this from Reddnova today - :)

Why don't you stay the f off my posts. If I wanted your opinion I would have invited you to express it. You know what they say opininions are like assholes and you are beginning to smell like one. By the way is your name Mike too?

Sounds like the guy you'd want to deal with doesn't he?

Can't make a deal without crying about the other guy and then when you point that out he cries because you dont agree with him.

I am not the guy who can't seem to get along with sellers- YOU ARE.

Scorp

Damn, and I was wanting to work a trade with this guy! hahahah
BEWARE!
His S#!T Is GOLD and Yours will be WORTH DIRT!
Later
G :shock:

[SUPERBARTMAN]

I did not come on here to get help. I came on here to warn future traders who may be doing business with these losers who waste your time and mine and don't have the balls to let you know they have backed out of the deal.

THAT IS ALL!

[Scorpion1110]

You came on here to complain. You have no desire to hear a conflicting opinion from anyone-

Here is a comment from Rudy Holloway on one of your previous posts:

"Greg,
Thanks for the heads up! Bart and I have a little email banter going on here.....I will use him for whatever fun I can get out of him, then be done!

BTW Bart, if you just hit the "post reply" button on your thread, add your incredible wit, it will automatically bring it back to the top.
Need help figuring anything else out, just drop me a note!
_________________
I started with nothing, I still have most of it left.

Missin' Jay everyday! USMC KIA Iraq 10-21-05
USA- Home of the free BECAUSE of the brave!
************************************************** **********
You didnt like what Rudy had to say so you got chippy. Rudy has earned his credibility here- YOU HAVE NOT.

You pm me with some crap about not posting on your thread- I laughed for 10 minutes when I read it. I also think its interesting that you wouldnt open my response- still sitting in the outbox unread. Why because you dont like someone with a different opinion.

You dont care what anyone has to say, Napolean. You just want to complain and have your voice be the loudest in the room, AND this is why no one wants to deal with you.

Scorp

[SUPERBARTMAN]

There are too many people on here with no life but to nose in on other people's complaints. RJ should bar all you nosey guys who instead of helping, make matters worse.

Like I said, I didn't ask for your help or ignorant opinion. You just make matters worse. The self appointed nose! If you work for RJ as a moderator etc. it's ok! Others with the nose problem is not ok! I bet you guys and your opinions are on almost all scammer post's in here. Yes, I have looked!

I only want other traders to know who these people are they are dealing with so their time isn't wasted too.

[TheRabbit]

There are too many people on here with no life but to nose in on other people's complaints. RJ should bar all you nosey guys who instead of helping, make matters worse.

Like I said, I didn't ask for your help or ignorant opinion. You just make matters worse. The self appointed nose! If you work for RJ as a moderator etc. it's ok! Others with the nose problem is not ok! I bet you guys and your opinions are on almost all scammer post's in here. Yes, I have looked!

I only want other traders to know who these people are they are dealing with so their time isn't wasted too.

And in the mean time you have let others know not to deal with you too. JMO.

When you make a post on the forum you have asked anyone and everyone to give input and their opinion. Most of the regular guys on here want both sides of the story so they can try to resolve the issue.

[Scorpion1110]

There are too many people on here with no life but to nose in on other people's complaints. RJ should bar all you nosey guys who instead of helping, make matters worse.

Like I said, I didn't ask for your help or ignorant opinion. You just make matters worse. The self appointed nose! If you work for RJ as a moderator etc. it's ok! Others with the nose problem is not ok! I bet you guys and your opinions are on almost all scammer post's in here. Yes, I have looked!

I only want other traders to know who these people are they are dealing with so their time isn't wasted too.

You're Hilarious Bart

[Tod74]

Dang dude you came here to get help or vent, If you don't want it then don't post it :!: :!: Scorp didn't start this thread YOU did :!: :!:


NO but Scorp basically called the guy a liar. All the guy said was the guy backed out on the deal and wouldn't answer the phone,and then Scorp turns it around on him and suggests that HE is the problem. HOW is that "help"

[SUPERBARTMAN]

I have 26 posts on here and Scorp has 952......Wow you really are nosey! I am going to read some of your posts meddling into other people's business!

[Harbone]

I have 26 posts on here and Scorp has 952......Wow you really are nosey! I am going to read some of your posts meddling into other people's business!

don't forget to read the ones where he has gone above and beyond to help people solve their problems on here, its shouldn't be hard since thats almost ALL of them :!:

[MEMRACING62]

...I have 26 posts on here and Scorp has 952......Wow you really are nosey! I am going to read some of your posts meddling into other people's business! yup you have 27 posts.....and might I say you have gotten off to a great start.... :roll:........ moron :!:

[Scorpion1110]

Dang dude you came here to get help or vent, If you don't want it then don't post it :!: :!: Scorp didn't start this thread YOU did :!: :!:


NO but Scorp basically called the guy a liar. All the guy said was the guy backed out on the deal and wouldn't answer the phone,and then Scorp turns it around on him and suggests that HE is the problem. HOW is that "help"

Tod-

My point is that I think its odd that this guy is on here twice in 6 months complaining about people. That all three have the same name is a side-coincidence.

I went back and read the posts from Bart on the Mike Jenkins thread as well as the posted email and I don't think it was clear-cut that he was right and Jenkins was wrong.

Then he posts on here about these two Mike's in Ocala who supposedly screwed him.

Now go take a look at Rudy Holloway's posts where Bart attacked him when he was trying to help. Then I start getting PMs from him telling me to butt out.

So it looks to me like this guy is difficult to deal with and likely a bully. My opinion and allowed when you post on a public forum, correct?

Do me a favor Tod, go back and read the Jenkins thread, Rudy's posts and do so from the position that maybe bart was wrong- If you do that you will see my point I think.

Bottom line is this, I didnt attack him initially, just said i didnt believe him. He then basically told me to shut up. Extreme? I think so if you have a tendency to try and bully people. That's what they do.

Do I think he is partially to blame? Yep. Do I think he is a liar? Let's just say he's not objective.

Do I think he is hilarious? yep.

Scorp

[Scorpion1110]

I have 26 posts on here and Scorp has 952......Wow you really are nosey! I am going to read some of your posts meddling into other people's business!

Now its 953, Bart.

Oh, wait add another.

Scorp

[SUPERBARTMAN]

Well over half of my few posts are because of Scorp's BS. I have read his advice and it is BS just like he is. He is a wannabe and just full of it.

There is something wrong when someone pays for this service, posts a complaint then is shot because he is the messenger.

Scorp, just stay off of my threads and by the way the message I sent him was private but he isn't man enough to deal with himself, he has to bring it to the gereral forum for support. Man up Scorp. I don't want to waste any more og my time hearing your BS.

STAY OFF MY THREADS!

[Scorpion1110]

Well over half of my few posts are because of Scorp's BS. I have read his advice and it is BS just like he is. He is a wannabe and just full of it.

There is something wrong when someone pays for this service, posts a complaint then is shot because he is the messenger.

Scorp, just stay off of my threads and by the way the message I sent him was private but he isn't man enough to deal with himself, he has to bring it to the gereral forum for support. Man up Scorp. I don't want to waste any more og my time hearing your BS.

STAY OFF MY THREADS!

I am on your threads bart and I will continue to be :)

Don't like it? Oh well.

Scorp

BTW, I like the way you went hidden to post this :)

955 posts and counting.............

[Scorpion1110]

Well over half of my few posts are because of Scorp's BS. I have read his advice and it is BS just like he is. He is a wannabe and just full of it.

There is something wrong when someone pays for this service, posts a complaint then is shot because he is the messenger.

Scorp, just stay off of my threads and by the way the message I sent him was private but he isn't man enough to deal with himself, he has to bring it to the gereral forum for support. Man up Scorp. I don't want to waste any more og my time hearing your BS.

STAY OFF MY THREADS!

BTW, "of" is not spelled "og"

[Harbone]

Well over half of my few posts are because of Scorp's BS. I have read his advice and it is BS just like he is. He is a wannabe and just full of it.

There is something wrong when someone pays for this service, posts a complaint then is shot because he is the messenger.

Scorp, just stay off of my threads and by the way the message I sent him was private but he isn't man enough to deal with himself, he has to bring it to the gereral forum for support. Man up Scorp. I don't want to waste any more og my time hearing your BS.

STAY OFF MY THREADS!

What service did you pay for?? The forum is free :!: :?: :!: :?: :lol:

[ccperf721p]

I have 26 posts on here and Scorp has 952......Wow you really are nosey! I am going to read some of your posts meddling into other people's business!

Now its 953, Bart.

Oh, wait add another.

Scorp

Pretty childish. This site, like many others has lost all sense of professionalism and class.

[Scooterz]

Well- by default I will say I trust what Scorp has said. He does not sink his teeth into something with ignorance. In fact, out of anyone here, he digs the deepest. The fact that bothers you Bartie is suspicious... the facts of your past posts are also suspicious... a counter attack on Scorp makes you look cheap & desperate... taking the attention off the subject of your behavior & trying to turn it to Scorp. I don't think you are a bully... I think you may be a good old fashioned whiner who has to have his way...

[Tod74]

Dang dude you came here to get help or vent, If you don't want it then don't post it :!: :!: Scorp didn't start this thread YOU did :!: :!:


NO but Scorp basically called the guy a liar. All the guy said was the guy backed out on the deal and wouldn't answer the phone,and then Scorp turns it around on him and suggests that HE is the problem. HOW is that "help"

Tod-

My point is that I think its odd that this guy is on here twice in 6 months complaining about people. That all three have the same name is a side-coincidence.

I went back and read the posts from Bart on the Mike Jenkins thread as well as the posted email and I don't think it was clear-cut that he was right and Jenkins was wrong.

Then he posts on here about these two Mike's in Ocala who supposedly screwed him.

Now go take a look at Rudy Holloway's posts where Bart attacked him when he was trying to help. Then I start getting PMs from him telling me to butt out.

So it looks to me like this guy is difficult to deal with and likely a bully. My opinion and allowed when you post on a public forum, correct?

Do me a favor Tod, go back and read the Jenkins thread, Rudy's posts and do so from the position that maybe bart was wrong- If you do that you will see my point I think.

Bottom line is this, I didnt attack him initially, just said i didnt believe him. He then basically told me to shut up. Extreme? I think so if you have a tendency to try and bully people. That's what they do.

Do I think he is partially to blame? Yep. Do I think he is a liar? Let's just say he's not objective.

Do I think he is hilarious? yep.

Scorp

Scorp I know the work you have done to help people on here. I'm sure your opinion of this guy was formed based on facts, however I do not need to read those other threads because my comment was only specific to this thread.

Mark told him if he didn't want help don't ask for it.
Nothing you posted to him in this thread was intended to help him.

That was my only point.Nothing more,nothing less.

I am in no way saying your opinion of him is inacurate.

[Scorpion1110]

Tod you are absolutely correct. I didn't try to help him at all, after I read the other threads, my gut told me that the other guys might need a bit of balance. Its not always the guys who yell the loudest and first who are always right.

CCperf- your're right too. Shouldn't have posted that. But I am entitled to a couple like that.

Bottom line is this, I told bart I didnt agree with him, and I thought he was part of the problem. Entitled to that opinion. Still believe it but I will leave him alone. He showed me what I wanted to see.

Scorp

[Tod74]

Tod you are absolutely correct. I didn't try to help him at all, after I read the other threads, my gut told me that the other guys might need a bit of balance. Its not always the guys who yell the loudest and first who are always right.

CCperf- your're right too. Shouldn't have posted that. But I am entitled to a couple like that.

Bottom line is this, I told bart I didnt agree with him, and I thought he was part of the problem. Entitled to that opinion. Still believe it but I will leave him alone. He showed me what I wanted to see.

Scorp

Don't misunderstand what I was saying. I absolutely agree you are entitled to that opinion,and should post it as many here(me included) respect your judgement on deals gone wrong.

[mopar1968]

It wasn't a deal gone wrong because the deal never happened it looks like it was cancelled by both parties :!: :!:

[Scooterz]

Tod you are absolutely correct. I didn't try to help him at all, after I read the other threads, my gut told me that the other guys might need a bit of balance. Its not always the guys who yell the loudest and first who are always right.

CCperf- your're right too. Shouldn't have posted that. But I am entitled to a couple like that.

Bottom line is this, I told bart I didnt agree with him, and I thought he was part of the problem. Entitled to that opinion. Still believe it but I will leave him alone. He showed me what I wanted to see.

Scorp

Don't misunderstand what I was saying. I absolutely agree you are entitled to that opinion,and should post it as many here(me included) respect your judgement on deals gone wrong.


Hey Tod, I respect that you do not always share the same view as what is popular. Don't be afraid to say what you mean.. even if it is contradictory. I think it shows character in you. Hell, half the time I am riding on less info than Scorp has on these guys... I go by the gut... sometimes I am completely wrong myself. In the end, by default I side with the old timers here cuz they are my pals. Know what I mean?

[Tod74]

It wasn't a deal gone wrong because the deal never happened it looks like it was cancelled by both parties :!: :!:

Agreed.... but I got the impression Scorp was saying he would just start keeping his opinion to himself,and that would be a bad thing.

[SUPERBARTMAN]

I posted this thread as INFORMATION FEEDBACK so other traders would know what kind of deal to expect from MikeandMike of Ocala. That is all!

I did not expect or will I ever accept someone coming on her and attacking me for doing that. It is just plain wrong for ANYONE to do that.

I am done with all this bs and this simple little information thread has been taken totally out of context and much bad opinion and fabrication added to it.

For those of you who read all this bs, I am sorry for wasting your time. I revert back to my original complaint which was only FEEDBACK and I stand by it and my other few complaints.

I have made many trades and sales on here and only a few problems and love RJ.

[Scorpion1110]

I posted this thread as INFORMATION FEEDBACK so other traders would know what kind of deal to expect from MikeandMike of Ocala. That is all!

I did not expect or will I ever accept someone coming on her and attacking me for doing that. It is just plain wrong for ANYONE to do that.

I am done with all this bs and this simple little information thread has been taken totally out of context and much bad opinion and fabrication added to it.

For those of you who read all this bs, I am sorry for wasting your time. I revert back to my original complaint which was only FEEDBACK and I stand by it and my other few complaints.

I have made many trades and sales on here and only a few problems and love RJ.

Guess what Bart- people are allowed to have opinions other than yours.

Simply said after reading all your posts as well as your PMs to Rudy Holloway and myself - I still believe your attitude was part of the reason these guys didnt want to deal with you.

Can't stand an opinion other than yours- Grow up, the world works that way sometimes.

A different opinion then yours doesnt equal BS- Someone could turn that around and say your complaint or opinion is BS- Now couldnt they? True or false? AN OPINION.

Scorp

[lively]

HONOR PAYMENTS --ANYONE LISTENING!!!!!!!

[gmanxss]

BART, YOU MAY HAVE MADE MANY TRADES AND SALES ON RJ BUT U FORGOT THE H O N O R PAYMENTS. AN HONORABLE MAN PAYS HIS WAY. GENE

[SUPERBARTMAN]

First of all, how would you know?

Second is I have made trades only on here. No sales. I might have mistated that. I have made sales but not here.

Third, I wish I had made some sales on here but we all know what is going on with the economy and people just aren't buying. Most are only trading.

Fourth, I pay for this service and other than RJ wanting to get more money from me and everyone else, I have no obligation to them for honor payments. I pay for my service and that is what I get! They don't give me anything extra and I have no obligation to them to give them extra.

Finally, It is my business whatever I choose to do!

[TheRabbit]

[quote="reddnova"

I have made many trades and sales on here and only a few problems and love RJ.[/quote]



First of all, how would you know?

Second is I have made trades only on here. No sales. I might have mistated that. I have made sales but not here.

Third, I wish I had made some sales on here but we all know what is going on with the economy and people just aren't buying. Most are only trading.

Fourth, I pay for this service and other than RJ wanting to get more money from me and everyone else, I have no obligation to them for honor payments. I pay for my service and that is what I get! They don't give me anything extra and I have no obligation to them to give them extra.

Finally, It is my business whatever I choose to do!

Man you can back pedal faster than Bill Clinton!
I think I would just quit before I dug a bigger hole for myself!

A friend of mine has in his signature (on another forum) "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything".

[Harbone]

Afriend of mine has in his signature (on another forum) "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything".

AMEN!!

[TheRabbit]

A friend of mine has in his signature (on another forum) "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything".

AMEN!!

That is a quote and signature from Mitch Mitchell.

[lively]

i love that saying :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[gmanxss]

BART, I KNOW BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT AN HONOR MEMBER. YOUR DEFINATION OF HONOR AND MINE DIFFER GREATLY. I WILL GIVE YOU ONE THING, YOU CRY AND BACKPEDAL WELL. GENE

[ccperf721p]

How many keyboards does it take to beat up on one guy?

[Tod74]

How many keyboards does it take to beat up on one guy?

We try to use as many as possible to conserve the overall strength of the fleet.

[ccperf721p]

Oh, I see. I think I'll be moving on now.

[bbchevy]

Hey Bart,
I'm STILL WAITING on those Aftermarket Brakes that You Advertised on the Vega?Remember the 1's that were NOT There.
You Are a POTHETIC Peice of S#!T!
And then To RAPE JASON out of that Vega!
Of COURSE you Live in YOUR OWN WORLD?Good Think You Own about 170 acres,and you dont have to Deal with any people in HICKVILLE USA!
Because it ONLY takes 1................................!
But then AGAIN,Its the WORLD thats F()(KED UP NOT YOU!
But You ALREADY KNEW That!
Because You KNOW EVERYTHING,like how to set up a Fuel Injector!
Get a LIFE!
Later
G :roll:

[SUPERBARTMAN]

The brakes are probably the same place the Eagle rotating assembly you traded me in the Camaro that turned out to all be stock cast stuff and junk. I remember the car, the one your ripped the front bumper off and ruined the tire when you backed it off the trailer. You came and got the car and told me about all these guys you had traded with then you called them back after the trade and tried to hold them up for money like you did me. You asked for the trade not me. Sour grapes

[SUPERBARTMAN]

bb chevy lives in Northern Michigan and should know where hicksville is. I did do a trade with this guy at his request. He pickup the car and thoroughly crawled all over my car. He was happier than a pig in slop with it. At least until he got home and could start his scam. The car he delivered to me had a different engine in it than in his ad. The engine was all cast not Eagle like he said. Just stock junk with a cam in it.

Here is how he works and he told me this himself while he was visiting in hicksville. He trades or buys, then he contacts whoever he is dealing with and starts ragging on the for money. He has by now nit picked the car/parts to death or created something to bitch about and help him swindle money from them. He laughed and laughed when he told me about what he does and the fact that he leans on them so heavy they pay. He even told me about the last one he did with some parts and according to him he had already stolen them. He doesn't have the knowledge and this is how he comes out on top with his trades at least in his mind. Trade with him and you will see.

I don't know who Jason is and have never gotten a Vega from him whoever he is and yes I can tune a fuel injection system and I gather that from picking your little brain that you can't because everything you said was wrong.

One final thing: He damaged the plastic bumper on the trade Camaro and punctured a tire on it backing it down some boards off the trailer. One board broke and punctured the tire. I didn't see the damage because I was on the other side of the car and the tire didnt go flat until I pulled the piece of board out of the sidewall after they left. They did leave in a hurry.





BEWARE OF THIS ONE BOYS!

[SUPERBARTMAN]

Gene, (lively) Thanks for clearing it up for me about honor payments since you couldn't find a type "0" or anything else to pick on me for.

I am pleased to see that you are a proud honor member and have been a member since Jan. 04 (ALMOST 6 YEARS) and have paid a WHOPPING $12.86 for your sales ventures. WOWEEE! WHOOPEE! You should be proud.

[gmanxss]

BETTER CHECK HONOR PMTS AGAIN, REDNECKNOVA, YOU HAVE YOUR NUMBERS WRONG. I PAY EVEN ON TRADE DIFF. GENE :oops:

[SUPERBARTMAN]

The information came from your ad's and information. Junk yard dealer! Are we into name calling now since we can't find anything else to bitch about. I see why you haven't paid anything frome the junk cars you have! Make my F...ing day asshole! Thanks for making my simple little feedback so interesting.

[SUPERBARTMAN]

Check out Gene's ad's. His stuff makes rat rods look like show cars. Wonder if he would like to buy some more concrete blocks to set them on. And he has the nerve to call someone redneck! LOL!

[bbchevy]

bb chevy lives in Northern Michigan and should know where hicksville is. I did do a trade with this guy at his request. He pickup the car and thoroughly crawled all over my car. He was happier than a pig in slop with it. At least until he got home and could start his scam. The car he delivered to me had a different engine in it than in his ad. The engine was all cast not Eagle like he said. Just stock junk with a cam in it.

Here is how he works and he told me this himself while he was visiting in hicksville. He trades or buys, then he contacts whoever he is dealing with and starts ragging on the for money. He has by now nit picked the car/parts to death or created something to bitch about and help him swindle money from them. He laughed and laughed when he told me about what he does and the fact that he leans on them so heavy they pay. He even told me about the last one he did with some parts and according to him he had already stolen them. He doesn't have the knowledge and this is how he comes out on top with his trades at least in his mind. Trade with him and you will see.

I don't know who Jason is and have never gotten a Vega from him whoever he is and yes I can tune a fuel injection system and I gather that from picking your little brain that you can't because everything you said was wrong.

One final thing: He damaged the plastic bumper on the trade Camaro and punctured a tire on it backing it down some boards off the trailer. One board broke and punctured the tire. I didn't see the damage because I was on the other side of the car and the tire didnt go flat until I pulled the piece of board out of the sidewall after they left. They did leave in a hurry.





BEWARE OF THIS ONE BOYS!


Yes BOYS,BEWARE!
Some GUYS are ALWAYS,CORRECT!
That is when They LIVE IN THERE OWN WORLD!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Later
G 8)

[Scorpion1110]

On February 3, 2010 His complaint was on Mike Jenkins (and eventually verbally took a shot at his wife):

http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?p=106857&highlight=#106857

On May 14, 2010 he complained on here about jacky35:

http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?p=112671&highlight=#112671

Then on August 17, 2010 it was Mike and Mike from Ocala, this thread.

Then yesterday it was BBchevy who screwed him. Now we all know Greg from the boards and he always seems to be a stand-up guy.

So thats at least 4 complaints in 6 months.

I searched the board threads and cant find a single example even close to that.

I am sure its just a coincidence.

[Tod74]

For anyone that thinks BBCHEVY is a scammer...I have to disagree completely.


http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=6763


It makes no sense for him to stand there and tell someone he is in the middle of a trade with,that he frequently makes trades then calls them back hounding them for money.If he did,

A) He would be the stupidest SOB alive

B) The guy he was trading/telling about it would be the second stupidest SOB alive for going through with the trade.

[SUPERBARTMAN]

He did this and he does this and yes he is the stupid's sob alive. He forgot he told me what he did i guess. Then he started hounding. I did not file a complaint and had this scammer bb chevy not come on here to join in on the bashing I would not have said anything. I usually take care of my problems myself and I will in the future.

If you have any doubts, make a deal with him and you will see. It's really getting bad on here when the scammer joins in on the bashing. LOL

[SUPERBARTMAN]

By the way the deal was already done when BB Chevy told me this. One thing for sure guys I won't be posting on here anymore unless I am looking for some fun. This is fun isn't it? When the messenger gets shot and the scammers join the shooting. The help you get whether you like it or not is worse than the problem. See Ya!

Oh and the third dumbest SOB is the one who comments on the first two dumb SOB's when he doesn't know anything about it. LOL! Thanks for making my simple little report so interesting.

[THERATTLER]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bF9lxl9N6I&feature=related

[lively]

Gene, (lively) Thanks for clearing it up for me about honor payments since you couldn't find a type "0" or anything else to pick on me for.

I am pleased to see that you are a proud honor member and have been a member since Jan. 04 (ALMOST 6 YEARS) and have paid a WHOPPING $12.86 for your sales ventures. WOWEEE! WHOOPEE! You should be proud.


poor guy---at least i will pay honor payments on sells and trades 8) 8)


and no you have not figured out how the payments work i guess--because you have not made ANY AT ALL :? :?

YOU ARE FIGHTING THE WRONG GUY ON THIS MATTER FOR SURE SO GO BITCH AT SOMEONE ELSE WHO CAN NOT SATISFY YOU--LIKE ANYBODY ELSE- PERIOD :oops: :oops:

I HAVE RELATIVES JUST LIKE YOU AND STAY FAR AWAY FROM THEM IF POSSIBLE :roll: :roll:

LIVELY

[Tod74]

He did this and he does this and yes he is the stupid's sob alive. He forgot he told me what he did i guess. Then he started hounding. I did not file a complaint and had this scammer bb chevy not come on here to join in on the bashing I would not have said anything. I usually take care of my problems myself and I will in the future.

If you have any doubts, make a deal with him and you will see. It's really getting bad on here when the scammer joins in on the bashing. LOL

yeah scammers always send total strangers brand new parts( that are no longer available new) with nothing in return but a promise.....the real clue that he was a scumbag came when he PAID THE SHIPPING HIMSELF.

I'm sorry I don't know anything about your deal but I base my opinion on how he treated me...he went out of his way to HELP me for no reasoin other than to help a guy out,so in my book he is stand up guy.

[gmanxss]

HEAY REDNECKNOVA, PLEASE RECHECK MY CARS AND ADS. IF YOU FIND ANY JUNK THERE YOU CAN HAVE IT. MY RAT TRUCK SOLD AT THE GRAND RUN IN GATLINGBURG FOR 16,000. WHAT JUNK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AND YES I DO PAY ON EVERY SALE AND TRADE MADE ON RJ. ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED IN SEEING MY CARS POST A FRIENDS REQUEST AND I WILL OK IT. GMANXSS THANKS GUYS :twisted:

[SUPERBARTMAN]

Tod, Your deal was minimal and trivial. I am glad it worked out well for you.

He wanted $700 from me and kept hounding until I brought up the damage he did and the lie about the motor and the pic in his ad that was of a different motor and not the one in the car. He finally got mad and said some nasty things to me and gave up.

His claims were totally false in his intervention in my post except that I do live in the country and it is very private but it's only 5 minutes to 2 towns and 10 to another and Bristol Nascar and Dragstrip is only 20 min. away. There are 2 other dragstrips less than an hour away. Life is great here in hicksville! I don't have a clue as to who Jason is and he says I stole a Vega from. I paid for all my Vegas! I have never traded with anyone with that name. Never! I only trade with Mikes! or now it's MikeandMike. Ask Scorp! LOL Oh I found another typing "0" that I did too!

Anyway the most important thing here is bbchevy's response to what I said he told me and what he tried to do to me.



HE NEVER ONCE DENIED IT BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHAT HE TOLD ME AND WHAT HE TRIED TO DO TO ME IS TRUE!!!!!

Where else is a better place to hide than right in the middle of some guys who think they are scammer busters! LOL!

Oh! One final thing and I am done with this post. I bet MikeandMike of Ocala Fl. hate you guys for dragging this little information post on and on for them.

The final thing the son Mike said to me when he emailed me and apologized and tried to take responsiblilty for his dad was. "Man can you just let it go"? LOL! My response was that I appreciate the apology buy it wasn't his responsibility to take the blame for what his dad did or didn't do. I bet they are thoroughly pissed now!

Thanks guys for your help and now I am letting it go.

[Scorpion1110]

Tod, Your deal was minimal and trivial. I am glad it worked out well for you.

He wanted $700 from me and kept hounding until I brought up the damage he did and the lie about the motor and the pic in his ad that was of a different motor and not the one in the car. He finally got mad and said some nasty things to me and gave up.

His claims were totally false in his intervention in my post except that I do live in the country and it is very private but it's only 5 minutes to 2 towns and 10 to another and Bristol Nascar and Dragstrip is only 20 min. away. There are 2 other dragstrips less than an hour away. Life is great here in hicksville! I don't have a clue as to who Jason is and he says I stole a Vega from. I paid for all my Vegas! I have never traded with anyone with that name. Never! I only trade with Mikes! or now it's MikeandMike. Ask Scorp! LOL Oh I found another typing "0" that I did too!

Anyway the most important thing here is bbchevy's response to what I said he told me and what he tried to do to me.



HE NEVER ONCE DENIED IT BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHAT HE TOLD ME AND WHAT HE TRIED TO DO TO ME IS TRUE!!!!!

Where else is a better place to hide than right in the middle of some guys who think they are scammer busters! LOL!

Oh! One final thing and I am done with this post. I bet MikeandMike of Ocala Fl. hate you guys for dragging this little information post on and on for them.

The final thing the son Mike said to me when he emailed me and apologized and tried to take responsiblilty for his dad was. "Man can you just let it go"? LOL! My response was that I appreciate the apology buy it wasn't his responsibility to take the blame for what his dad did or didn't do. I bet they are thoroughly pissed now!

Thanks guys for your help and now I am letting it go.

LOL

You rock the unintentional comedy scale BART

[SUPERBARTMAN]

GMANXSS.....JUNK YARD MAN, I really have to go but one final message. I sent him this in a private message and asked him to post it here like he usually wouldd but he hasn't. So here it is!

It's Mr. RedNeckNova to you!!!!! GOT IT!

I see that you have removed, deleted, all those old rusty junk cars you had for sale on here this morning. Isn't it amazing what shame can do. I guess you did really well selling your Rat Rat Rod, the gold rust one or is it the rusty gold one. WOW $16000 for a Rat Rat Rod made of gold rust and you don't even care if you lose money in a trade. You call me, your hear. I'll find you some cars and furnish the concrete blocks for you too. I will see you soon in the Junk Yard and I can post comments on all those gold rust cars. Thanks for the invitation to visit your profile pic. and see all the rust buckets. WOW! I can't wait. I think Junk Yard Man, short for GManXSS, lives in Hicksville too. I AM SO EXCITED! Let's all go seeem! That is a word isn't it.

[MEMRACING62]

reddnova, the more you post here the more you show why people dont want to do buisness with you. The arrogant and self righteous flaws in your personality come shining through more and more with each post. :roll:

[mopar1968]

Reddnova i looked at gmanxss profile and he has some great looking ride's no rusty junkyard junk there :!: :!:

[gmanxss]

GUYS, I HAVE NOT DELETED ANY ADS TODAY OR YESTERDAY. LAST AD I HAD I SOLD LOCAY AND DELETED OVER A WEEK AGO. IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY RUST EITHER AS NONE OF MY SOUTHERN CARS DO. REDNECKNOVA IS A COMPLETE IDIOT. HOPE TO MEET HIM SOMEDAY. GENE :D

[gmanxss]

ONE LAST THING MR. REDNECK NOVA , I GOT IT AND I SURE AS HELL WOULD LIKE TO GIVE IT TO YOU. GENE CORNELISON. CHATSWORTH GA. BYE NOW :D :D :D :D :D :P :P :P :P

[mopar1968]

You guy's really need to quit responding to this idiot,Seem's like we had the same kind of idiot a few month's back :!: Just let it go and it will go away or the Mods will lock it and stop it :!: :!: JMO Mark Arnold

[SUPERBARTMAN]

Junk Yard Man! If you can't take the heat you shouldn't have come into the kitchen, my post, uninvited running your RED NECK MOUTH. You do know a lot about rednecks don't you. First hand knowledge and experience I suppose. You have my permission to keep this complaint going now. I have almost 1000 hits. Mike and Mike will hate you for it though.

Let me know when you want me to order the concrete blocks.

[Harbone]

:roll:

I swear he said it was his last post, I swear...

[gmanxss]

RED MAN TAKE YOUR BALL AND GO HOME, THE GAME WON'T STOP BECAUSE OF YOU. LAST POST ON THIS IDIOT'S THREAD. GENE :D

[SUPERBARTMAN]

Bartman!!!!!lol

[mopar1968]

Chris you know how the last post goes :!: :roll: :roll: :roll: JMO Mark

[SUPERBARTMAN]

This is a message that gmanxss sent me this morning. Things must not be going too well in the Junk Yard!


From: gmanxss
To: reddnova
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:04 am
Subject: Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers.
YOU SOUND LIKE THE PUNKS I USED TO PUT IN JAIL OR THE ONES I KILLED IN NAM. SURE WOULD LIKE TO MEET YOU. GENE

I responded that his low redneck IQ is showing. Ok, who's the redneck here?

BARTMAN OUT!

[Scooterz]

Bart,

you are way past the point of no return... really... quit while you can. You look more ignorant each time you post. Seriously, no one cares about your babbling anymore... or ever.

[SUPERBARTMAN]

You are the one that is ignorant. I had stopped but YOU can't shut up. You are the one that keeps babbling. Why don't you just shut the F up and keep your big long nose out of my business. This was a simple feed back post but you and the others wouldn't leave it alone and took it completely out of context and look where it is now. What a bunch of bs! GO AWAY!

[SUPERBARTMAN]

Rigsby,

You're not even a paying member of RJ. No ad's, no profile, nothing.

You'r nothing. Pay up or go away! No freeloading!

[Scooterz]

Bart, had any experience with the 12-step programs out there buddy?? I am sure there is one for people like you. Keep you chin up- someone is out there who cares about your CRAP. Until then, you can rant & rave like an idiot. Just know that people gave up on your excessive yammering 5 or 6 pages ago. if it makes you feel better, make me the scape-goat. I can take it Bartie. You are welcome to get in the last word if you like. My guess is that soon this whole thread will be locked. In the mean time, keep up the insults & anger so we can see it happen sooner. Oh & by the way, you do sound like a whiny BEEEOOOTTTCCH for the record.

[SUPERBARTMAN]

Free loading sob! Get off my site. Yes it's mine! I paid for it!

[Scorpion1110]

This is a message that gmanxss sent me this morning. Things must not be going too well in the Junk Yard!


From: gmanxss
To: reddnova
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:04 am
Subject: Re: MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers.
YOU SOUND LIKE THE PUNKS I USED TO PUT IN JAIL OR THE ONES I KILLED IN NAM. SURE WOULD LIKE TO MEET YOU. GENE

I responded that his low redneck IQ is showing. Ok, who's the redneck here?

BARTMAN OUT!

For the King of unintentional comedy, the self-proclaimed Bartman-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jmhlyuxULI

A day without Bart is like a day without someone to laugh at.

Go get'em tiger.

Scorp

[Scooterz]

(color=yellow) Coward. lol!! Yeah, I came back. You got me Bartie. BTW: I do pay... every month... automatic/direct.

[SUPERBARTMAN]

No you don't! YOU ARE A LIAR TOO! No profile! No ad's! Only freeloading bs. I should have known. You'r nothing! GET OFF!

[SUPERBARTMAN]

THANKS SCORP!

BARTMAN OUT!

[lively]

GEEE---BART IS THE NEW SITE OWNER--SOMEONE BETTER CONTACT RJ SO THEY CAN COLLECT THEIR PAYCHECKS FROM HIM :shock: :shock:

[lively]

Free loading sob! Get off my site. Yes it's mine! I paid for it!

barts exact words

[mopar1968]

Bartman :lol: :lol: :lol: That's funny right there :!: :!:

[MEMRACING62]

YUP.... THE BARTMAN IS A REAL RIOT!! :lol: :lol: HE'S KINDA LIKE A MORE HOSTLE LITTLEROD. :roll:

[SUPERBARTMAN]

1243 hits at last counting! Yep, I have accomplished what I wanted to on here and I do own a little part of RJ. I am closing my part of this thread but you guys can go on if you wish.

I need to go sell or trade some cars.

I have had all the fun I can stand! I think!!!!! SEE YA!

BARTMAN OUT!!!!!

[Harbone]

I am closing my part of this thread but you guys can go on if you wish.
We can only hope and by the way, the forum is FREE dumbazz!!
:roll:

[Scorpion1110]

1243 hits at last counting! Yep, I have accomplished what I wanted to on here and I do own a little part of RJ. I am closing my part of this thread but you guys can go on if you wish.

I need to go sell or trade some cars.

I have had all the fun I can stand! I think!!!!! SEE YA!

BARTMAN OUT!!!!!

Actually not quite- You accomplished what we wanted you to accomplish. You showed your attitude, your arrogance and your rudeness. Now 1234 separate viewers know exactly what you are.

So thank you for proving my point that you created the problem with these sellers.

You are the funniest person I have ever laughed at.

Well Done Bartman. And this thread is now officially closed :)

Scorp

[SUPERBARTMAN]

Thanks Scorp.

You did real well too showing your ignorant opinions and your true self. I couldn't have done it without you. Don't be sore! I am sure everyone will want your help in the future when your help is worse than the problem. But you don't have to worry about anyone dealing with you or trading, do you. You don't sell or trade anything! Only free opinions. LOVE IT! LOVE IT!

THANKS AGAIN ALL!

BARTMAN OUT!

By the way, the forum shouldn't be free. People don't take any personal responsibility with things that are free. It should be only for paying members.

[Harbone]

Thanks Scorp.

You did real well too showing your ignorant opinions and your true self. I couldn't have done it without you. Don't be sore! I am sure everyone will want your help in the future when your help is worse than the problem. But you don't have to worry about anyone dealing with you or trading, do you. You don't sell or trade anything! Only free opinions. LOVE IT! LOVE IT!

THANKS AGAIN ALL!

BARTMAN OUT!

By the way, the forum shouldn't be free. People don't take any personal responsibility with things that are free. It should be only for paying members.


yyyyaaaaawwwwnnnnnn... :roll:

[SUPERBARTMAN]

Thanks Scorp.

You did real well too showing your bad opinions and your true self. I couldn't have done it without you. Don't be sore! I am sure everyone will want your help in the future when your help is worse than the problem. But you don't have to worry about anyone dealing with you or trading, do you. You don't sell or trade anything! Only free opinions. LOVE IT! LOVE IT!

THANKS AGAIN ALL!

BARTMAN OUT!

By the way, the forum shouldn't be free. People don't take any personal responsibility with things that are free. It should be only for paying members.

[Harbone]

ECHO...ECHO...ECHO...ECHO...ECHO... :lol:

[mopar1968]

Dang i was going to take bet's if he was coming back or not :!: Well he just ruined that :!: Mark

[lively]

he will be back---just wait and see 8) 8)

he will miss us since no one else pays attention to him :cry:

[Harbone]

he will be back---just wait and see 8) 8)

he will miss us since no one else pays attention to him :cry:

hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :!: :lol:

[TheRabbit]

As best I can tell the score is
Scammers 0, Scorpion 243, Maybe the home field advantage for Scorp has something to do with it! lol

[Scooterz]

Bartman:

Fact 1: Scorp called you out very early & was spot on about you.

Fact 2: You are the problem here... not the people you try to do buisness with.

Fact 3: After Scorp cracked you, your true colors came spilling out. You are a classic passive/aggressive unstable dude.

Last, this is good that this thread came out into the open. People who may deal with you can otherwise avoid you now. Chances are, no matter what deals you enter into, you will whine & cry about them. You did people a favor Bartman... good on ya mate.

[Harbone]

...and it actually makes Mike and Mike look good and they never had to respond :!: :roll:

[SUPERBARTMAN]

LOL! LOL!

My thread is offically closed

Bye!

[mopar1968]

What a moron :!: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[THERATTLER]

What a moron :!: :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo

[SUPERBARTMAN]

closed!

[gmanxss]

I KNOW I SHOULDN'T DO THIS AFTER THE OWNER SAID CLOSED BUT I WANT TO THANK BARTMAN FOR CALLING ME JUNK YARD MAN. EACH TIME I PASS AN OLD JUNK YARD I STOP AND RESCUE ANY OLD CLASSICS AND CLASSIC PARTS I CAN FIND. GUILTY AS CHARGED. PRESERVE AMERICAS HISTORY, RESTORE IS BETTER THAN RE-POP. YOU MAY QUOTE ME BARTMAN AND SAY HI TO YOUR DAD HOMER SIMPSON. GENE :D :D :D :D :D

[SUPERBARTMAN]

ALL IN FUN!
BUT WE ARE STILL:



CLOSED

[Harbone]

again, more echo's... :twisted:

[SUPERBARTMAN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn6iFw-TkVM

[BEAST477]

MY GOD. HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GOING TO CLOSE THIS THING?

ENOUGH ALREADY :!:

[MEMRACING62]

bartman is still avalable as a user name......kinda surprised that we dont have a BARTMAN on here yet.....would make a cool username 8)