retired mechanic is going racin'!!!!!!!

[mwbrasher]

hi all i just retired this may... i bought a 74 vega to go play with 383.. 11.5 comp aluminum pre comp heads torker l l manifold turbo 350 manual shift 3200 stall 411 gears 28t\ tall 9 inch wide tire havent been racing in 25 years how fast do you guys think it will go... any sugestions will be helpful thanks in advance!!!!!!!

[Tod74]

High 11's low 12's.

just a guess.

[MEMRACING62]

high 10's- low 11's if tuned right. my guess

[mwbrasher]

thanks for the in-put ... is there any thing i need to change.... i wwould like to run in 10:50's ... consistently... bracket car only.. !!!! THANKS AGAIN.....

[Tod74]

I don't know what that thing weighs...but more gear maybe a 4.30-4.56 depending on how high you want to spin it and where it makes the power at. Just my opinion/ guess ...I've never ran a quarter mile ever. only eighth mile.

[suicidebomb]

Tod, I don't know if this helps any, but a quarter mile, is about twice as far. :D

[Tod74]

Tod, I don't know if this helps any, but a quarter mile, is about twice as far. :D

Thanks. :lol:

[curtisreed]

I don't think there is enough info to guess accurately. What are the cam specs? Not much gear or converter to try and run 10.50s. Hope it is really light.

Curtis

[mwbrasher]

the car weighs 2600 ... 200 lb driver ... should be 2800 total plan on running 7000 rpms cam is 560 lift .. 310 diration hope that helps ... have not raced in 25 yrs!!!!

[zipper06]

It doesn't matter how fast you go in the begining, i'm 71 yrs. old and have been racing for 55 yrs. with a few yrs. off. Just go have fun and make the changes as you get used too the car, the Xmas tree and the surroundings. Congrats on getting back into racing and enjoy the moment.

Zip.

[cepx111]

the car weighs 2600 ... 200 lb driver ... should be 2800 total plan on running 7000 rpms cam is 560 lift .. 310 diration hope that helps ... have not raced in 25 yrs!!!!

Is that a solid roller cam???

If not then I'd stick a comp cams 630/630 solid roller in it and let-er eat!

X2 on more gear.


Cp

[mwbrasher]

thanks for listening just did not want to look like an idiot... kids are grown ... now its time to play!!!!! yes we are going to have a GREAT TIME... WIN.. LOSE.. OR DRAW........ THANKS AGAIN...

[mwbrasher]

yep it's a old crane that i've had for years.. i'm a little behind on the new stuff ... but i'll learn just want to have fun... hope no body laughs at an old timer!!!! thanks again

[TheYellaBrick]

Ain't no one HERE laughin' !! We're cheering ya on !!! YYYYEEEEEEHAAAAaaaaa............................
The only questions that are stupid and silly are the UNASKED ones

Tod, Ya run 2 back to back 1/8ths and it'll be a full quarter :D :D :D

[Tod74]

Just don't try to stage with the back tires first time out......
:D

My first time with a trans brake I forgot to push the button in and floored it when the first yellow came on.

[suicidebomb]

I staged one time, and after I pushed the tranny brake button, I wooded it, and promptly backed up 30 feet in a big hurry....I was very surprised!!

An Altered, will back up very quickly, at full throttle.

[curtisreed]

I think maybe mid 11's with good air. Watch the oil you use now with flat tappet camshafts. It's not the oil you were probably used to back in the day. Find a good racing oil that still has the right additives needed, (zink and phosphorous are what is primarily being taken lowered). There is a huge argument on another unnamed site I frequent anytime oil is brought up. Suffice it to say that off the shelf street car oils now though are not good for flat tappet cams.

Curtis

[bigmack]

tod my first time out i was at the line, tree came down and i forgot to let the trans brake go man talking about funny. but i had a vega with a 355 th 350 3000 stall and 4.30 gears the motor had 10 to 1 flat tops with 555 solid roller chet herbert cam and 750 holley carb and it went 11.63 on 26x9x15 et streets. i wish i still had the little car lots of fun.

[curtisreed]

I think no one is immune to doing things like that. Saturday I made myself look like I have never been to a race ever. First round the guy I'm racing doesn't have his dial on the car, tinted windows. No-E. He just shows it to the tower as he pulls toward the water. We have dial boards before the tree so no big deal. As we pull into the water they shut us and the people on the line off for something on the track. Down 60 seconds, no big deal. The pair in front leave, we do our burn outs, pull to the line, stage, CRAP I forgot to look at who is leaving first. I look up at the finish boards qwickly, back down and see BRIGHT yellow. .092 :shock: :shock: on the tree.

Ok, not going to do that again. Buy back, round 2 I'm .013 on the tree, she is .088 I look, I look, I look, is she broke?, not going to get there? I lift. Dang it there she is, she comes around me and I give here the stripe by .02, 2 freakin' hundredths. Might as well have just lifted at the 1/8 and said here you go. LOL Oh well had a blast.

Two more ways I can lose marked off the list. :lol: :lol: This weekend will be different. No doubts about it. LOL

Curtis

[BEAST477]

[quote="Tod74"]Just don't try to stage with the back tires first time out......
:D

Hey Tod is that what you call DEEP staging? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[cepx111]

I staged one time, and after I pushed the tranny brake button, I wooded it, and promptly backed up 30 feet in a big hurry....I was very surprised!!

An Altered, will back up very quickly, at full throttle.

LOL< Now Earl, why dont you tell us about your delay box incident? :lol: :lol:

Cp

[cepx111]

I think no one is immune to doing things like that. Saturday I made myself look like I have never been to a race ever. First round the guy I'm racing doesn't have his dial on the car, tinted windows. No-E. He just shows it to the tower as he pulls toward the water. We have dial boards before the tree so no big deal. As we pull into the water they shut us and the people on the line off for something on the track. Down 60 seconds, no big deal. The pair in front leave, we do our burn outs, pull to the line, stage, CRAP I forgot to look at who is leaving first. I look up at the finish boards qwickly, back down and see BRIGHT yellow. .092 :shock: :shock: on the tree.

Ok, not going to do that again. Buy back, round 2 I'm .013 on the tree, she is .088 I look, I look, I look, is she broke?, not going to get there? I lift. Dang it there she is, she comes around me and I give here the stripe by .02, 2 freakin' hundredths. Might as well have just lifted at the 1/8 and said here you go. LOL Oh well had a blast.

Two more ways I can lose marked off the list. :lol: :lol: This weekend will be different. No doubts about it. LOL

Curtis
Oh the joys of Bracket racing.
Dont kick yourself too much dooracer, I cut a 636 light in the 5th round saturday night (footbraking) I could of been in the 4 car split in the next round and took home $325 but NOOOO, somebody couldnt cut a light to save his life, and you know what the funny thing is?

I thought I killed the tree :shock: ....lol

Cp

[TheRabbit]

Dont' feel bad. I drove 600+ miles (1 way) and looked like an idiot this weekend. You would have thought it was my first race. I also locked my keys in the trailer, had to cut the hinge, then Sat night the guy I was racing backed into me in the pits, busted my fan and ended my weekend early. It was a long ride home.

[zipper06]

Dont' feel bad. I drove 600+ miles (1 way) and looked like an idiot this weekend. You would have thought it was my first race. I also locked my keys in the trailer, had to cut the hinge, then Sat night the guy I was racing backed into me in the pits, busted my fan and ended my weekend early. It was a long ride home.

Jesussssss, Babbit, can you spell TRAIN WRECK, doesn't sound like a fun weekend

Zip.

[Tod74]

I staged one time, and after I pushed the tranny brake button, I wooded it, and promptly backed up 30 feet in a big hurry....I was very surprised!!

An Altered, will back up very quickly, at full throttle.

LOL< Now Earl, why dont you tell us about your delay box incident? :lol: :lol:

Cp

I would like to hear this one.

[JEFF69Z28]

Tod, I don't know if this helps any, but a quarter mile, is about twice as far. :D
LMAO...

[johnracer]

A few weeks back, 1st round, I dialed 8.70 and my opponent had dialed 10.10 or so. We have crosstalk, so I was all set up to hit the top and second yellow just in case. I rarely take the second hit unless I feel really late. Prestaged and my idle speed started dropping. Feathered the throttle and all seemed fine. Started rolling in and idle dropped again just before I staged. Tagged the button and matted the pedal, came up fine. Top bulb lit and I'm sittin there thinking "look at the pretty yellow light".......then I completely lost my mind! Instead of retagging the button and waiting for the second yellow, I'm looking around the cockpit thinking "WHAT DO I DO!! WHAT DO I DO!!" I was looking around so much my wife thought I was on fire.......needless to say, I was dead late and lost.



Bought back and won the race, but I must say I've never gone that braindead in a racecar before.....
Johnny

[TheYellaBrick]

It is AMAZING how you can get so totally focused that you totally focus OUT ! **BINK**
:shock: :shock: :shock:
:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
:roll: :roll: :roll:
"I'm okay. It's cool. I'm cool" 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[johnracer]

So true! It was way funny though. I was laughing at myself all the way down the return road :lol:

[bixblk]

That vega should fly, I do not like the short wheel base ,but it will be a fun ride.
I had a 435 HP 383 (SBC) solid roller, very good steel GM heads,750 DP holley, approx 10.2 to 1 in a 3500 lb 70 chevelle 4;10 gear (12 bolt) T 350 with good inners, never hurt it,never hicked up, always started, street drove it. Very fine combo that went 12:20 off the trailer. First time I had raced since 1980. I got the car to run high 11's consistantly, two things I would have changed.
1. I needed a higher stall,(I had a tight 2500) needed a 3500+
2. As long as you do not mind the maintanance and wear and tear on the valve train (and cost) the solid roller is ok....but you may think about a hydralic cam, they are better than they used to be. You give up some performance and sound and 10:50 is an agreesive ET ???your call, that is part of the fun
Just as a note that 70 Chevelle has evolved into a very fast street car , check out my racing profile, if interested
Hey good luck ,stay strait and fast and safe,
there is no better fun in the world
Jeff m

[mwbrasher]

thanks all for the info i'm going to run the vega as she sits for now ... until i get back in the grove ....lots of stuff to remember.... long time ago... but we;llhave fun!!!!!!!!! thanks again...

[cam67152]

Good luck...Be safe...Have FUN!!!

cam67152

[curtisreed]

Come back and let us know how it runs.

Curtis

[mwbrasher]

it won't be until august... thanks everyone for there great coments.... see ya at the track!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mwbrasher]

well... things have changed... found that the 9-inch in the vega is GONE!!!!! so rather than trying to beat a dead horse we are going to back half the vega 14x32's do it right insted of doing it 2 or 3 times...... thanks caveman53 :lol:

[traysvega]

well... things have changed... found that the 9-inch in the vega is GONE!!!!! so rather than trying to beat a dead horse we are going to back half the vega 14x32's do it right insted of doing it 2 or 3 times...... thanks caveman53 :lol:

Good luck with the Backhalf. Gonna be a 1/8 miler or 1/4?I happen to love vegas and have had a few .LOL...with all sorts SBC combos.My current is a lil ol 388..on wound,not kill... :wink:

[mwbrasher]

hi there as far as i know tulsa raceway runs 1/4 mile ... that will be our home track. thanks ..caveman53 :shock:

[mwbrasher]

hi all... it's been a while... lol... got the vega going!!!! went with a 331 sbc .. 750 double pumper... msd ign...hooker headers... turbo 350 full manual... no trans brake... 514 gears with 14 x42 x 15 m-t car is deadley on et and 60 ft... it runs 11:70's... and a consistant 1.59 60 ft car is 3000 with me in it.... i would like to go into the 10's... any sugestions would be great!!!!! had a ball this summer... just got to get better on the lights!!!!! lol.... oh... also it has a 5000 converter.... thanks in advance..... caveman :D :D :D

[TS1955]

Glad to hear you're having fun. I think that is what it's all about.

TS1955

[spib]

I run 10.60's and have run two 10.56 @128
3105 with me in it
383 all 4340 stuff 13 to1
210 afr heads
680 lift custom crower roller
glide with brake
4:86 gears

[mwbrasher]

do you think 5:13 are to deep? maybe i should go with 4:56??? i was worried about not enough h.p.... on dyno only 268 lbs of torque.... thanks... 8) 8) 8)

[spib]

do you think 5:13 are to deep? maybe i should go with 4:56??? i was worried about not enough h.p.... on dyno only 268 lbs of torque.... thanks... 8) 8) 8)
If your going to stay with 28 tall slicks a 4:56 gear would be good
your vega would like a loser convertor

I used to have 29tall slicks with my 4:86 gears I was at 7500 on chip
same slicks same gears with old motor was at 6,000 rpms ran 12.70 mostly stock 355

my convertor is a 8" ati was around 4300 with 355
stalls now at 5400 with my 385

run it and get used to car make small changes and have lots and lots of fun!!!!

[mwbrasher]

hi spib.... i'm running a 14x32x15 rear tire... turbo 350 trans and 5:13 gears....thanks... :lol: :lol: :lol:

[zipper06]

There's a couple changes you could make, (now these are just from my experience running sm/blks) A 331" motor doesn't need that much tire, you could probably run a 10.5 or 11" tire X 30" tall and improve ET and 60' times. if you're going to stick with the 14X32's i'd go to a 5.86 gear, it won't help your 60' time much but it should improve your ET some, you have to spin that motor pretty high to make it run good. I run a 377" motor with 14X32's and a 5,43 gear, it runs high 1.40's 60 ft and 10.50's @ 125 mph, i'm running around 7400 RPM in the qtr. in a 3250lb car, but i'm also running alcohol.

JMO

Zip.

[curtisreed]

hi there as far as i know tulsa raceway runs 1/4 mile ... that will be our home track. thanks ..caveman53 :shock:

I just saw that you are racing Tulsa. That is where I race also. I might have seen you there. What does your car look like and where are you from?

Curtis

P.S. It looks like we might get a few more years to race there now.

[spib]

hi spib.... i'm running a 14x32x15 rear tire... turbo 350 trans and 5:13 gears....thanks... :lol: :lol: :lol:
I have 32x12 slicks now and my rpms are way off
i now am 6750 at the finish line , Im going to a 5:13 gear next yr myself
but last race still ran a 10.56 at 127 even with the softer gear

[mwbrasher]

hey doorracer.... i have a little primer grey vega.... still in the "worki'n out the bugs" stage... what do you drive?..... caveman :D :D :D

[mwbrasher]

hey spib.... i went with the 5.13 because i was going to build a 383... a freind of mine had this engine. 331 11:5 comp.... old 365 hp type corvette motor... so...... i thought i would put it in this summer and have some fun!!... i have a 350 4bolt main i am going to build hope to make more power....i spent a lot on the eng back... but a low dollar eng for this summer.... next year!!!!!! thanks... caveman :D :D :D

[curtisreed]

hey doorracer.... i have a little primer grey vega.... still in the "worki'n out the bugs" stage... what do you drive?..... caveman :D :D :D

Here is me.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff292/doorracer/zDSC_0063.jpg

[mwbrasher]

hell yea... nice ride ... i've seen you there... next you and i are at the races i'll swing by and shoot the bs... thanks caveman :D :D :D

[curtisreed]

hell yea... nice ride ... i've seen you there... next you and i are at the races i'll swing by and shoot the bs... thanks caveman :D :D :D

Sounds like a plan.

[mwbrasher]

ok guys... i'm back.... was going bbc this year but due to the IRS.... STILL RUNNING SBC...I NOW HAVE a 377... 400 with a 350 crank.........12:5 to1 comp... set of world product heads... 14x32 tires... 5:13 gears..turbo 350... 5000 stall convertor.... I NEED HELP WITH A GOOD... FLAT TAPPET..NON ROLLER... still on budget...lol...rpm range of 3000to 7000.. some thing that will give torque and hp any help ... WOULD BE GREAT..... thanks caveman.....