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bigray
01-02-2010, 09:57 AM
we just bought a 01 Mullis dragster.my question is ,,on the steering wheel it has three buttons,,the one on the right is trans brake,the one on the left is burn out,,but the one on the top of the steering wheel is ?? i here its a bump up or down button ..WHATS THAT,,, VERY NEW TO THIS COMPUTER SUPER PRO STUF >>>if its a bump up or down so you can cross talk,how does it know to go up or down ??
slowmotion
01-02-2010, 10:48 AM
It depends on how it is set up in your delay box. It is either an up or down not both.
You would need a manual for your box and then go through the progaming to see how it is set up. My brother used his the first time only to find out the time in the bump down was 0. Meaning no matter how many times he hit the button, the delay didn't change. He had to figure out how to program his.
Depending on the brand of box the manual is probably available online.
My brother's car also has a SLE, Starting Line Enhancer. Basically a air cylinder on the throttle. So he has a button for that also.
johnracer
01-02-2010, 02:31 PM
or, it could be to engage reverse without starting the delay box timers. The timers start with the release of the trans brake button. If you have a pro brake, you'll need to push the tb button to back up. The 3rd button could be wired into a diode to bypass the box........
By the way, most starting enhancers come on with the application of the trans brake and don't have a special button.
Johnny
curtisreed
01-02-2010, 04:27 PM
or, it could be to engage reverse without starting the delay box timers. The timers start with the release of the trans brake button. If you have a pro brake, you'll need to push the tb button to back up. The 3rd button could be wired into a diode to bypass the box........
By the way, most starting enhancers come on with the application of the trans brake and don't have a special button.
Johnny
Not always true. We use a separate button for all of our starting line enhancers.
Curtis
shawnp
01-02-2010, 05:03 PM
With a biondo box the SLE is either activated (pedal to the floor) when the TB is pushed wehn you are staged with timers starting at release of the TB button or it could be set using a 2nd push button (can be the bump up/down button) when prestaged that way you are staging with your foot already to the floor at your preset SLE idle rpm and the timers will start with the release of the tb button.
You really need to talk to the seller to see how it is currently working. If you have the Biondo box, you can go to their website and download the instructions.
Since the SLE and delay box racing are new to you, I highly recommend that you get the car ready to race. Make sure there is no fuel in the tank or removed the fuel line to the carb so you do not flood the car and sit in the car, get use to pushing the button and feeling how the SLE is going to work.
johnracer
01-03-2010, 03:02 AM
With a biondo box the SLE is either activated (pedal to the floor) when the TB is pushed wehn you are staged with timers starting at release of the TB button or it could be set using a 2nd push button (can be the bump up/down button) when prestaged that way you are staging with your foot already to the floor at your preset SLE idle rpm and the timers will start with the release of the tb button.
You really need to talk to the seller to see how it is currently working. If you have the Biondo box, you can go to their website and download the instructions.
Since the SLE and delay box racing are new to you, I highly recommend that you get the car ready to race. Make sure there is no fuel in the tank or removed the fuel line to the carb so you do not flood the car and sit in the car, get use to pushing the button and feeling how the SLE is going to work.
Now that you mention it, my Dedenbear box does the same thing with the bump button. I've never used it to stage with the throttle on the floor and completely forgot... :oops:
So why would you have a completely seperate button for the SLE? No box or box without SLE control? Just curious....
Johnny
hammertime
01-03-2010, 05:05 AM
Follow the wires, most likely a bump down button. Which delay box is it ?
You hit the bump down button on mine to activate the SLE so it stages at the same rpm everytime, I do not use it though.
Sounds like your going to have a learning curve, make sure the delay box has a lockout on it so you can not hit the transbrake button going down track... the K&R you can turn it off.
3dracing
01-03-2010, 06:27 AM
We have a seperate button to back up and our SLE and bump down are on the same button. You should try your SLE it hgelped my daughter by having the pedal on the floor, one less thing to do on the starting line. It also makes the car go on the two step at the same time. We have ours to go on it 1 second before trans brake relase.
lively
01-03-2010, 09:34 AM
THE SCARY PART TO ME :oops: :oops: :oops:
HOW CAN YOU BUY A ''RACECAR'' AND NOT ASK ??????????????? ABOUT THE OPERATION OF THIS DRAGSTER :? :? not being mean just can not understand this at all
these things are nothing to guess at at all--ask the seller alot more ???
better safe then sorry :? :?
we have had 2 posts lately that are on dragsters and one in particular[for his son] scares me !!
come on guys--THINK ALOT MORE BEFORE COMMITING TO A NEW CAR
NOT BEING MEAN OR A KNOW IT ALL 8) 8)
:roll: :roll: :roll:
SORRY -JUST HAD TO VENT ON THIS SUBJECT
LIVELY
bigray
01-03-2010, 03:28 PM
ooooooh i hear ya ( lively ) it was that the seller didnt know either..he just bought the dragster for the motor.he didnt care how all the buttons worked..just that it had a 632 he wanted..or to sale the motor and then sale the dragster roller..and the old owner is unavailable.sooooo i have to figure it all out..some times its easyer to ask,so it can lead me in the right direction..because man is it a pain in the asss to get under that dash in this thing...and yep its for my son..just got back from Memphis buying a motor for it..
slowmotion
01-03-2010, 03:31 PM
My brother's car is a Gebhardt car. You just take off the top body panel and you have access to all the wiring behind the dash.
bigray
01-03-2010, 03:39 PM
yea it shouldnt be that big of a deal..just way toooo cold here right now.i am sure we will get it all worked out..it seems like they are all almost set up the same.heck i would just rather foot break it and go on..and run No E . with it
shawnp
01-03-2010, 04:10 PM
You need to get the car in the garage and tear every body panel off that car and become familiar with the car. Understand the chassis, the wiring, the cables, the brakes, etc. You should be able to sit in that car with your eyes closed and know where every switch is at, where every shut off is at and be able to get out of that car in case of an accident. Put yourself in the scenarios and do drills that make this a reaction and not a panic if something happens.
sc4405
01-03-2010, 05:33 PM
Good advice for a new dragster owner for sure. I would strip the body off, put both ends up on stands, sight down the rails, look at EVERY upright for cracks/bad welds, check the brake line for chafing etc. You can't be too careful - they are very safe if they are not damaged. Good luck! 8) JB
lively
01-03-2010, 05:52 PM
bigray----that is great that you understand what i meant---and getting under those dashes is tough[ and i is small in stature :lol: ]
by the way it is suppose to be nice in OKLAHOMA[i am going that way real quick] so change the weather for me :lol: :lol: :lol:
LIVELY
curtisreed
01-03-2010, 06:56 PM
Lively,
Just don't head this way for the next week. Below freezing every day and zero Friday morning. I was born and raised here but I didn't sign on for this crap.
Curtis
slowmotion
01-04-2010, 05:00 AM
You need to get the car in the garage and tear every body panel off that car and become familiar with the car. Understand the chassis, the wiring, the cables, the brakes, etc. You should be able to sit in that car with your eyes closed and know where every switch is at, where every shut off is at and be able to get out of that car in case of an accident. Put yourself in the scenarios and do drills that make this a reaction and not a panic if something happens.
I read somewhere that you should put your hand on the parachute lever every pass when you lift. Even if you don't use the chute, you hand will already be there if you need to pull it in an emergency.
Now if I could just remember to do that... :oops:
bigray
01-05-2010, 03:34 PM
ok iam back...burrrr dont come to OKLAHOMA its damn cold..oooh yea as soon as it gets a little warmer like 10 above we are going to fully take the dragster apart..then i will be able to see alot more..seee ya. RAY and thanks for all the INFO...
curtisreed
01-05-2010, 04:37 PM
Hey Ray,
I just saw that you are just up the turnpike a ways. Did you buy your car local? Just wondering if I knew who owned it before.
Curtis
bigray
01-05-2010, 05:33 PM
I WISH<<<< i went to cinninati OHIO.. to get it and brought it back to chelsea in a snow storm...but it is a gooood looking CLEAN dragster..the guy i bought it from ,got it out of Ga,he bought it for the motor.
lively
01-05-2010, 06:23 PM
bigray---i am traveling to a place of total sunshine/warmth/ and never any bad weather---POTEAU ,OK :? :shock: :? :shock:
NOT FAR FROM YOU GUYS 8) 8) 8)
KEEP ME IN YOUR THOUGHTS!!!!!!! :lol: :lol:
LIVELY
curtisreed
01-06-2010, 05:50 AM
Funny stuff there Lively. Come on down tonight, supposed to be zero for the next couple of mornings with highs in the teens. That's freaking MN weather.
Curtis
curtisreed
01-06-2010, 05:53 AM
I almost forgot. Ray post up a pic of that new ride. Or did I miss it somewhere?
curtis
sc2265
01-07-2010, 07:29 AM
hey ray,, the guy who originally owned the car is rodney phagen,,, he is a member on this message board rpm2891 is user name h e ha sa jr dragster listed in classifieds go there and join and ask him,, im sure he will b helpful.. www.dragcoverage.com
go 2 forums
bigray
01-07-2010, 12:27 PM
Cooool thanks for the info..i will post up some pics soon..
bigray
01-08-2010, 02:03 PM
the new dragster>>>>>
http://i49.tinypic.com/dhbnep.png
THERATTLER
01-08-2010, 02:21 PM
:D N I C E
kwkracing
01-08-2010, 02:23 PM
Great looking car!!!
fla1976
01-08-2010, 02:23 PM
Very nice :D
What engine do you plan to run?
bigray
01-08-2010, 02:36 PM
we are still undecided on the motor..its gonna be a BBC just dont know how big yet.i have a .30 over 454 now..but would like a little bigger,so i dont have to build another one next year.and heck i will be short shifting him and throttle stoping him anyway for some time..till he gets a good feel for it.we can rent the track at MoKan for about 350.00 for 4 hours.i think its around that price,and i think that would be the best thing to do,then we will not be tying up a test and tune night for everybody else.then when he forgets to hold in the burn out button nobody will see me scream at him..LOL
curtisreed
01-08-2010, 04:52 PM
Nice looking ride Ray. Nothing wrong with building a 468. We have one in our dragster, runs 5.0's in the 1/8.
Curtis
slowmotion
01-08-2010, 05:06 PM
then when he forgets to hold in the burn out button nobody will see me scream at him..LOL
That's why mine is a switch with a big amber light that lets me know when it's on.
Great looking car!!!!!