beware of ad#1737046

[budracer51]

Beware of this guy....He wanted a deposit to hold this car, sent him one on Dec 15th, says he never got it. Email him to find out if he received it yet, got a reply calling me everything in the book, still can't understand why???Now he says he cashed my check, with a laugh but next message from him said he didn't receive it. I stopped payment on the check and my bank says it wasn't cash yet so all I'm out is $35.00 and the car I wanted.....not sure if this guy even has a car or just out to scam....beware of this guy....

[slowmotion]

I'd question the fact that he says it's a Ninja 500 engine and runs 10.50.
A stock 500 won't run anywhere near that in a motorcycle much less in a car chassis.


Stock 1990 Kawasaki Ninja 500 EX 1/4 mile Drag Racing timeslip specs 0-60
1/4 Mile ET: 13.487
1/4 Mile MPH: 97.300
1/8 Mile ET: 8.528
1/8 Mile MPH: 81.260
0-60 Foot ET: 1.994
Temperature F: 70.0

http://www.dragtimes.com/Kawasaki-Ninja-Timeslip-17312.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Ninja_500R
12.73 s @ 102 mph

[blownalky3]

I just emailed the guy from my eBay account and went right to here and find this ??????? WOW.

I am curious to see how this plays out. The et time listed didn't make me take notice as much as who built it. It says McKinney built it...........
That was going to be my main question.

[budracer51]

I agree...I didn't think he ever built a Mini chassie but wasn't sure....

[dozerdudes]

I own the car and anyone is welcome to come on over and check it out anytime.It is a mcKinney chassis and he did build them.Now this Idiot...He said he was sending a deposit which he never sent and never recieved.He had a ad posted selling his dodge and sais right in the ad he can not buy my car until he sold the other.He figured he could buy some time of me holding if for him telling me he sent a deposit.He never sent it he is a liar.First if you are going to spend 5000.00 would you at least call the guy and talk with him about the car.I know every time i bought one sight unseen and ones i have bought i went to pick up i always call and talk over the deal on the phone.He never called nothing.My number is right in the ad.He emailed me once sais he wanted it is it still for sale and second sending a deposit.I figured something was up than nothing ever comes.Wouldent you send a cirtified check and have some sort of tracking that the seller recieved the check? No he has nothing because he did nothing.This guy is a peice of work but there is always one in the bunch.Love this site have had great luck here but this guy is an idiot.Lets see the paperwork!!!!!!Yah you have nothing..Oh well life goes on.he gave me a good laugh though.And she does run in the 10's.I have the slips.My brother ran it a few times and she is mid to high tens.I have a dragster and he was driving that having a blast.Not sure what was done to the engine i bought it as it is all i did was add gas.i never drove it my self except up my road.My Brother is 100lbs lighter than i.Hope this clears a bit up.Please bud guy show us the reciepts..

[THERATTLER]

that is one sharp little car , wish I had an extra 5 grand to blow :D

[dozerdudes]

It really is a cool little car.I have a dirt car and a dragster and it is just too much to keep 3 cars.I am not a rich guy and really did not want to sell it but i dont even drive it my self.My plan was to put a Arctic Cat zr 900 engine on it i have.I have seen a couple videos of a few guys running NOS with snowmobile engines in the 7's.They are cool.

[bigray]

Kinda sounds like a buyer playing GAMES !!!!!!!!!!!! KOOOOL ride,,i have seen some of these around,and they do run good..

[dozerdudes]

Here is his ad number where he says he has to sell his first before he buys mine Ad #1719557 see how fast he can go pull it down.funny.

[budracer51]

First, I sent $500.00 not $5000.00. That's the amount you asked for. Second my car is sold, If I want to, to a guy in Bristel Tn. I don't need to sell my car to buy yours, I just don't want two cars in my shop and do not one to sit outside. How can I be scammming when I'm the one that sent the money and didn't ask for him to send me any. I sent a personal check in the mail because I was trusting you to do the right thing....I never said you cashed it or tried to cheat me out of it, all I did was asked if you received it....that's all then you went nuts on me....I have all of your emails if anyone wants to see them.....You need to ask yourself why would this be trying to scam you??? If you didn't receive the deposit then sell the damn car....but if had received it then and only then....hold it for the person like you said you would.....I hope someone buys it and then I'll buy it from them.

[Scorpion1110]

I own the car and anyone is welcome to come on over and check it out anytime.It is a mcKinney chassis and he did build them.Now this Idiot...He said he was sending a deposit which he never sent and never recieved.He had a ad posted selling his dodge and sais right in the ad he can not buy my car until he sold the other.He figured he could buy some time of me holding if for him telling me he sent a deposit.He never sent it he is a liar.First if you are going to spend 5000.00 would you at least call the guy and talk with him about the car.I know every time i bought one sight unseen and ones i have bought i went to pick up i always call and talk over the deal on the phone.He never called nothing.My number is right in the ad.He emailed me once sais he wanted it is it still for sale and second sending a deposit.I figured something was up than nothing ever comes.Wouldent you send a cirtified check and have some sort of tracking that the seller recieved the check? No he has nothing because he did nothing.This guy is a peice of work but there is always one in the bunch.Love this site have had great luck here but this guy is an idiot.Lets see the paperwork!!!!!!Yah you have nothing..Oh well life goes on.he gave me a good laugh though.And she does run in the 10's.I have the slips.My brother ran it a few times and she is mid to high tens.I have a dragster and he was driving that having a blast.Not sure what was done to the engine i bought it as it is all i did was add gas.i never drove it my self except up my road.My Brother is 100lbs lighter than i.Hope this clears a bit up.Please bud guy show us the reciepts..

Stamped.

Scorp

[Scorpion1110]

Beware of this guy....He wanted a deposit to hold this car, sent him one on Dec 15th, says he never got it. Email him to find out if he received it yet, got a reply calling me everything in the book, still can't understand why???Now he says he cashed my check, with a laugh but next message from him said he didn't receive it. I stopped payment on the check and my bank says it wasn't cash yet so all I'm out is $35.00 and the car I wanted.....not sure if this guy even has a car or just out to scam....beware of this guy....

Stamped.

Scorp

[Scorpion1110]

This has me curious.

Budracer51 says he sent a check, claims Dozerdudes said he received it and he placed a stop payment through the bank for $35. Dozerdudes in his post says he never received anything.

If there is a stop payment then that shows a payment was sent and would lend credibility to Budracer's post.

So lets see the bank info- that should give us an idea who is being straight up- dont you think? I'd also think if there are emails- they would be useful.

And gentlemen, I stamped both your posts since you are in full disagreement and there seems to be proof that one of you isnt being truthful- I dont want either of you to go "all post-editing" on us.

So Budracer51- balls in your court- let's see the bank info. And before you say you cant post on here- check with one of the Mod's or a forum regular as to uploading images.

Scorp

[budracer51]

Ok will do...someone let me know how to upload the paperwork...I did some investigating about the chassis, it may be a Mckinney....Doug Mckinney from MAC racing not Murf Mckinney, top fuel and fuel funny car chassis builder...doesn't mean it's not a good chassis, I'm sure it is, just clearing the air....Hell I'm still willing to buy the car, I'll have to see it in person and will pay with cash and will need to see time slips for this car...proof that it runs the times said. I still believe this guy is going over board on all this....again I just asked if he received my check.......that's all....................

[dozerdudes]

Scorpion i am with you lets see it.Anyone is welcome to check myfeedback on ebay as well i have 100% with a 125 rating. my name on there also is Dozerdudes. 500.00 is not going to do anything for my pocket.

[dozerdudes]

Sorry bud guy.You are not buying my car.In fact i am going to pull the ad.I am just going to keep it.Not worth all this.Ill get over to my brothers and get a slip and see how to post it.No longer for sale.

[dragonmaster093]

hmm something now sounds real real fishy bud asked how to post his proof and now dozer pulling ad and not for sale for a moment i started to believe dozer but when bud asked how to post now dozer pulling ad sounds like some one tried to pull something funny lmo

[budracer51]

No problem on not selling me your car....good luck

[dozerdudes]

Here is my name and address Kurt Hundeland 94 little rd wurtsboro ny 12790.my number is 845-978-2020.Any one who is local please come over any time and take alook at the car.It is not for sale but just to clear this up./You do not even have to call just come by anytime.I do not pull anything.I sell 20-30,000 machines backhoes,bulldozers loaders,excavators.I do not need this idiots 500 nor do i need the 5k.just needed more room.Someone hop in the car and come on over there is a komatsu bulldozer right next to the road you cant miss it.come on over.I am done with this petty crap i have real work to do.My brother is droping off a time slip this afternoon my email is [email protected] just drop me a mail and ill send a copy to any one who would like it.my last post.about this bullshit.Dont really care if anyone believes me or not life goes on....So go put your stamp on that.......

[dragonmaster093]

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Here is my name and address Kurt Hundeland 94 little rd wurtsboro ny 12790.my number is 845-978-2020.Any one who is local please come over any time and take alook at the car.It is not for sale but just to clear this up./You do not even have to call just come by anytime.I do not pull anything.I sell 20-30,000 machines backhoes,bulldozers loaders,excavators.I do not need this idiots 500 nor do i need the 5k.just needed more room.Someone hop in the car and come on over there is a komatsu bulldozer right next to the road you cant miss it.come on over.I am done with this petty crap i have real work to do.My brother is droping off a time slip this afternoon my email is [email protected] just drop me a mail and ill send a copy to any one who would like it.my last post.about this bullshit.Dont really care if anyone believes me or not life goes on....So go put your stamp on that.......
i think someone has ruffled feathers cause bud decided to post proof

[mooneye777]

I hope someone posts something so we can get a clue as to what is going on. They both sound as if they can prove thier side. Please post something someone.

[DRTRCR22]

-Here is my name and address Kurt Hundeland 94 little rd wurtsboro ny 12790.my number is 845-978-2020...... i think someone has ruffled feathers cause bud decided to post proof

YEAH... Wouldn't YOU...? I am with Kurt...! He is just stating his frustration and aggravation over Bud's incriminating allegations.

Yeah, so maybe Kurt has a crude and jumpy attitude, but Bud has not posted any proof yet to secure the right to calling Kurt a liar.

Some people are smartasses, and maybe Kurt shouldn't have been so rough with Bud up front, but I know how a lot of dumbass buyers can come up with stupid stunts to make a seller want to just forget even trying to sell anything. I have met dozens of idiots who try this crap.

No, I don't know either one of these guys, and don't really care how this turns out as long as the truth prevails, but don't just digest [WHAT] is being said, but moreso [HOW] it is being said...!
Kurt has been more honest and upfront so far than Bud has shown...
I may be wrong, but I say Kurt is being more truthful than anyone right now...

Jim

[dragonmaster093]

jim im not saying who is right or wrong stating my opion and not above saying soryy if im in the wrong when things are proven or not proven

[DRTRCR22]

Hey Sam, I was not trying to slam you, sorry if it sounded that way. I respect your opionion, and I was just stating my observations and opinions too. No harm, no foul, we both got good arguements...
Jim

[dragonmaster093]

agreed just have to see how it plays out

[Scooterz]

what a joke....

Classic scenario where someone is flat out lying. They both hold their ground, battle all the way to the bitter end, then one of them says something like this:

"You guys are a bunch of drama-queens with nothing better to do than bash people here; this site is stupid & I do not have time anymore to deal with a bunch of dumbass people"

Next, whomever is lying will go away in what appears to be a justified fit of anger focusing the attention somewhere else. Whoever has the most pride will try to make seem like they no longer need to justify anything & that WE are the problem. chances are, there will never be any proof from either side. I don't know about you guys, but I did not question if this guy HAS THE CAR or not; so I will not be jumping in my car to go see his shop. I think he really does probably have the car... which is not really the main topic here in this silly argument. So who is BUTT-HURT the most??? Who will bail out first??? tune in and see... or not. Scoot

[blownalky3]

I have emailed dozerdude a couple times regarding this car previously (November) and he has always stated to me to "come on over" to look or send someone. He seems to be open with any info needed. My only concern is the chassis builder stated, and I am sure he meant no harm there, just didn't realize. His car is a MAC Chassis and yes, the guy is McKinney, just not Murf. They build a lot of mini stuff and have a snowmobile powered dragster on eBay right now. Not taking sides here, just stating my previous conversations for what it is worth.

dozerdude: Don't get upset at the people or the print here. Just rooting out the facts. If you are who I think you are, keep your ad up and see this through. You will be happy you did.

[Harbone]

what a joke....

Classic scenario where someone is flat out lying. They both hold their ground, battle all the way to the bitter end, then one of them says something like this:

"You guys are a bunch of drama-queens with nothing better to do than bash people here; this site is stupid & I do not have time anymore to deal with a bunch of dumbass people"

Next, whomever is lying will go away in what appears to be a justified fit of anger focusing the attention somewhere else. Whoever has the most pride will try to make seem like they no longer need to justify anything & that WE are the problem. chances are, there will never be any proof from either side. I don't know about you guys, but I did not question if this guy HAS THE CAR or not; so I will not be jumping in my car to go see his shop. I think he really does probably have the car... which is not really the main topic here in this silly argument. So who is BUTT-HURT the most??? Who will bail out first??? tune in and see... or not. Scoot

Well at least he didnt call you a "hippie"! :lol:

[budracer51]

I never called him or anyone else a liar....I just asked if he receive my deposit.....that's all.......when he said he didn't fine but then he said he did and cashed it, I believe that was an attempt at humor. That's when I said MAYBE he doesn't even have the car, never said he didn't. I will post my paper work from the bank as soon as someone tells me how to put it on this site, same with ALL emails...this is getting way out of hand, I posted this just to let other people know what happened and to use caution, That's it, he responded with his side, and he has that right. That's all there is to it, I'm out only $35.00 and NEVER asked for any type of refund....just a receipt if he recieved it......

[budracer51]

Get of the site you lieing old bastard.if you cant see not my problem.You will need your 850,000 from your 401k to put into that dodge so you can sell it for 500.00.Oh i got you money today!! yah right....scammer...you are funny!! You must be from down south somewhere only way to be this much of an idiot.get off the site....

On [2009-12-28 09:01:20] budracer51 wrote:
> Sir, you have some major problems....I can see why you haven't sold your car yet. I was not bragging just explaining. Good luck....drop dead and please no more reply's from you. If you do, please learn english and how to write a sentence. It's very hard to read when there is no capitals or periods, it just all runs together. As far as idiots....I think I just meet one.
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> On [2009-12-27 15:55:20] dozerdudes wrote:
> > Not only a liar but an idiot also.give me a break tire kicker.people who brag are people who are liars.You are pretty funny though.Get off this site we do not need idiots like you here.
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> > On [2009-12-27 12:43:16] budracer51 wrote:
> > > No games...I sent it 12-15-09 to 94 Little rd,Wurtsboro, NY 12790. I'm 58 years old , owned a trucking company, retired at 55 been drad racing since 1966 and have never cheated anyone out of a dime, My 401K balance is $850,000.00 and I live in a very nice gated community and have a 30x50 race shop. I was not trying to pull anything...I sent a deposit as requested by you with all good intentions, I figured the christmas mail slowed everything down. If you receive my check, please return it. If I receive it back from either you or the mail, I'll let you know. If I get a cancelled check back sigh by you, you will hear from my lawyer for fraud. No further communitcation between us will be needed.
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> > > On [2009-12-26 21:15:16] dozerdudes wrote:
> > > > In order for me to recieve a deposit you need to send it.please i am not looking to play games here.this is a real car and i am looking for a real buyer.thanks.
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> > > > On [2009-12-26 18:21:00] budracer51 wrote:
> > > > > I have not heard back from you yet...did you receive my check for a deposit to hold this car? I have not received a cancelled check so so haven't cashed it but I need to know if you received it or not, if you haven't then I'll stop payment on it and we'll try another way to get it to you.
> > > > > Thanks, Bud
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> > > > > On [2009-12-13 13:53:16] dozerdudes wrote:
> > > > > > I do still have it.2 guys say they want it but no one sent a deposit yet.Send a 500.00 deposit and its yours.I can hold for a couple weeks no problem.My name and address is Kurt Hundeland 94 little rd wurtsboro ny 12790.I had the car running yesterday but the guy thought he was coming here with 4500 and taking it home and he went home empty handed.Think 5000 is a very fair price for this car..Kurt
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> > > > > > On [2009-12-13 09:23:36] budracer51 wrote:
> > > > > > > Do you still have this car? Mine may be sold to a guy in TN. What would it take to hold this car for a couple weeks?
> > > > > > > Thanks,
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> > > > > > > On [2009-12-09 08:20:30] dozerdudes wrote:
> > > > > > > > I have a load of guys intrested so if you are really interested done wait too long.
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> > > > > > > > On [2009-12-08 20:33:14] budracer51 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > This new price makes a difference.....I have the cash just didn't want two race cars at same time.
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> > > > > > > > > On [2009-12-08 18:09:20] dozerdudes wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > You said buying my car hinges on selling yours.just drop me a line if you sell it ill send over pics.no sense if you cant buy it now.thanks.
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> > > > > > > > > > On [2009-12-08 15:58:18] budracer51 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > I see you lowered the price...still very interested...please send additional photos to [email protected]
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[THERATTLER]

dozerdudes quote :"You must be from down south somewhere only way to be this much of an idiot."

better an idiot than a hippie , I guess :?

[DirkaDirka]

Get of the site you lieing old bastard.if you cant see not my problem.You will need your 850,000 from your 401k to put into that dodge so you can sell it for 500.00.Oh i got you money today!! yah right....scammer...you are funny!! You must be from down south somewhere only way to be this much of an idiot.get off the site....

On [2009-12-28 09:01:20] budracer51 wrote:
> Sir, you have some major problems....I can see why you haven't sold your car yet. I was not bragging just explaining. Good luck....drop dead and please no more reply's from you. If you do, please learn english and how to write a sentence. It's very hard to read when there is no capitals or periods, it just all runs together. As far as idiots....I think I just meet one.
>
> On [2009-12-27 15:55:20] dozerdudes wrote:
> > Not only a liar but an idiot also.give me a break tire kicker.people who brag are people who are liars.You are pretty funny though.Get off this site we do not need idiots like you here.
> >
> > On [2009-12-27 12:43:16] budracer51 wrote:
> > > No games...I sent it 12-15-09 to 94 Little rd,Wurtsboro, NY 12790. I'm 58 years old , owned a trucking company, retired at 55 been drad racing since 1966 and have never cheated anyone out of a dime, My 401K balance is $850,000.00 and I live in a very nice gated community and have a 30x50 race shop. I was not trying to pull anything...I sent a deposit as requested by you with all good intentions, I figured the christmas mail slowed everything down. If you receive my check, please return it. If I receive it back from either you or the mail, I'll let you know. If I get a cancelled check back sigh by you, you will hear from my lawyer for fraud. No further communitcation between us will be needed.
> > >
> > >
> > > On [2009-12-26 21:15:16] dozerdudes wrote:
> > > > In order for me to recieve a deposit you need to send it.please i am not looking to play games here.this is a real car and i am looking for a real buyer.thanks.
> > > >
> > > > On [2009-12-26 18:21:00] budracer51 wrote:
> > > > > I have not heard back from you yet...did you receive my check for a deposit to hold this car? I have not received a cancelled check so so haven't cashed it but I need to know if you received it or not, if you haven't then I'll stop payment on it and we'll try another way to get it to you.
> > > > > Thanks, Bud
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> > > > > On [2009-12-13 13:53:16] dozerdudes wrote:
> > > > > > I do still have it.2 guys say they want it but no one sent a deposit yet.Send a 500.00 deposit and its yours.I can hold for a couple weeks no problem.My name and address is Kurt Hundeland 94 little rd wurtsboro ny 12790.I had the car running yesterday but the guy thought he was coming here with 4500 and taking it home and he went home empty handed.Think 5000 is a very fair price for this car..Kurt
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> > > > > > On [2009-12-13 09:23:36] budracer51 wrote:
> > > > > > > Do you still have this car? Mine may be sold to a guy in TN. What would it take to hold this car for a couple weeks?
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Bud
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> > > > > > > On [2009-12-09 08:20:30] dozerdudes wrote:
> > > > > > > > I have a load of guys intrested so if you are really interested done wait too long.
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> > > > > > > > On [2009-12-08 20:33:14] budracer51 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > This new price makes a difference.....I have the cash just didn't want two race cars at same time.
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> > > > > > > > > On [2009-12-08 18:09:20] dozerdudes wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > You said buying my car hinges on selling yours.just drop me a line if you sell it ill send over pics.no sense if you cant buy it now.thanks.
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You know the funny thing is since I am buying my car on payments I let the guy that I am buying it from know when the check is in the mail. That way he can be expecting it. This guy never sent a messege saying that the check is in the mail so hwo does anybody know if it was sent or not?? Also waiting a week and a half before seeing if he recieved it?? I would have asking that after 4 days. Thats is just me tho and this is just my observation and opinion.

[Scooterz]

This hippie wants to see who will prove their case on this one. Instead of popcorn, I will be waiting patiently with my granola & green tea.

[Harbone]

This hippie wants to see who will prove their case on this one. Instead of popcorn, I will be waiting patiently with my granola & green tea.

now thats funny! :lol:

[MEMRACING62]

This hippie wants to see who will prove their case on this one. Instead of popcorn, I will be waiting patiently with my granola & green tea.scoot, how ya gonna have time to watch this thread when your out hugging so many tree's these days 8) 8) :P

[slowmotion]

http://www.moviecars.it/images/auto/cars_fillmore.jpg

[mooneye777]

OUCH I must admit, pretty impressive email tag.

[Scooterz]

That VW Van has smoked WAYYYY too much dope. His eyes look really bad.

[gungho]

That VW Van has smoked WAYYYY too much dope. His eyes look really bad.

How do you know its not imported from china??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[dragonmaster093]

chiniese wouldnt have the cool hippie paint

[DRTRCR22]

taste the paint to see if has lead in it...?