Need some opinions....To trade or not to trade?

[hollowayshotrods]

I am thinking about trading my '69 Camaro for this '66 ChevyII. Take a look at the slideshows if you have a few minutes and tell me what y'all think. Be honest, I really need the opinions!
The '66 has 'glass front end, deck lid and doors. He has the original doors, deck lid and hood as well as both door windows. It does have a title.
Big block with steel heads, forged GM crank, stock rods, TRW 12.5-1 pistons, nothing major for a motor. Claims about 35 mostly footbrake passes on motor since freshened, says the car itself is new.

Anyway, let me know what y'all think. I added a link to my Camaro too.
The Camaro has a bunch of pics, sorry.

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/hollowayshotrods/100_0864.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/hollowayshotrods/1969%20Camaro%20SS/695.jpg

http://s249.photobucket.com/home/hollowayshotrods/recentuploads?view=slideshow

http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/hollowayshotrods/1969%20Camaro%20SS/?albumview=slideshow

Thanks alot guys!
Rudy

[MEMRACING62]

looks well built, what trans ? if its as good as the pic's look might be a good trade. I like it(alot) :wink:

[DirkaDirka]

From what pics that I could see that Nova looks very well built and not just thrown together. It looks really nice.

[RonOwensRacing]

Man that's a stuff one there I love both of those cars the nova's are a killer piece sounds like a nice car couldn't get any more of the pic's to load .

I love those nova's me I would check it out real good and might just trade for it.

[itsabird]

both look nice, comes down to what you want, race car or street car, with one seat time is limited, but man what a rush!!!. if you like a lot of seat time, or generaly touring and tooling around, then keep the camaro. jmo

[shawnp]

Both are gorgeous cars. I would have a tough time trading that camaro for the nova. If your intentions were to get into a race car then yes it is a good trade. I know I would have some sleepless nights making that decision and then probably question myself some when it was done.

[bjuice]

I WOULD NOT trade my 69 camaro...( and as you know i own this type Nova)

here are my reason's why..

once you get an all Drag car..thats all it is..a cut up Drag car it can never go back to street within reason.

But with your 69 camaro you can have the best of both Worlds if your careful how you go about it..and what i mean by this..is that you can leave the camaro Un-molested and Mini-tube it with the Kit they sell, sub frame connectors, Mid-plate it...Put you a cage that is just enough without harming the interior..leave eveything stock.....you can go with a pro-charger intercooled engine running pump gas and drive on the street and make up to 1200 hp ( see pro-chargers Site)..the camaro in the below link is the route i am wanting to go...over 1100 hp on pump gas..i like the look etc...check it out..it could be you Rudy with that beautiful blue 69 camaro you have... :D

http://owners.procharger.com/supercharged/386

http://owners.procharger.com/supercharged/316

you can make that camaro as bad as you want to and still have it close to its orginal form..with a set of 315 drag radials you could have you one bad true Stock suspension drag radial car....you got the best of Both worlds at your finger Tips...not to mention a 69 camaro is the baddest Body style ever Built ( imo)

thats my take on it Rudy.

[MEMRACING62]

I guess its a mater of what your looking to do, I would never take a good chevyII or 69 camaro and butcher it up for a drag car now, but the nova's already done. on rudys car it looks to good to put a cage in . jmo :?

[bjuice]

I guess its a mater of what your looking to do, I would never take a good chevyII or 69 camaro and butcher it up for a drag car now, but the nova's already done. on rudys car it looks to good to put a cage in . jmo :?


I agree..

[hollowayshotrods]

I gotta say, this is driving me insane! I agree with every one of y'all! I should trade it if it is as nice in person as it is in the pictures, I should keep it for the exact reasons bjuice gave. What the hell do I do? I have my '68 ChevyII that I considered cutting up for a race car, also considered the mini tubs. It is as nice as the Camaro as far as solid body.

bjuice, although I love the thought of building a streat beast like that, I don't think I would ever be able to really use it on the street as far as some distance cruising. We love to load up and go to the zoo, mountains, etc in the Nova and the Camaro.
I really do not want to cut either of my cars, they are that nice underneath. My Nova interior is beautiful, very comfortable to ride in.

I am confused right now, I have the Camaro advertised as low as I am going, I don't think I could build the '66 for what I am asking for the Camaro, not to mention it has a title too (the'66). I do know I want a race car since my '68 Nova will become our big block factory a/c cruiser!
I am concerned about recouping my $ should I trade for this car, aren't we all though! I must say, I do believe it is a desirable piece though!

Mike, the tranny is th400 w/trans brake, says he never used trans brake. He only ran foot brake.

He says the car itself was built by himself over about 6 years, bought the motor already assembled, has not run it enough to tune it good yet according to him. TopGun four link, Summers rear end with .456 and 31 spline axles. Certified to 8.50. I am trying to remember details as I go along, will add more later. Wilwoods on all four corners, stock front suspension.

The guy that owns the car wrote this:
"it has a 468 cu in, 650 hp, turbo 400, trans brake, elec. shifter, 9 inch ford, 456 gears, 14 x 32 hoosier slicks, fiberglass hood, fenders, doors & deck lid, has title, ceramic coated fender well headers, elec water pump, 1050 dominator, MSD ignition, lexan all around except wind sheild, this car is brand new, wive lost job and don't have money to race it. Sits in garage on jack stands."

[TheYellaBrick]

I agree that the II is a real nice unit. I also agree with the 'juice that the II is a dedicated single purpose race car or street machine. No going back to stock w/o a TON of unwork then rework.
What is your history with the 'maro ? Any sentimental value ? If so, are you willing to part with it FOREVER? Some cars we put together for the fun of it and get bored and are ready for something new and different. Others we have for years and years but need to make a 'change' (sure has a different ring to it nowadays, huh? ) :roll: but are willing to let 'er go.
What exactly do you want to DO with a dedicated racecar/street machine ? How often ? Is it WORTH the time and effort to feed ,clothe, and house a high maintenance inhabitant of your shop ?
Both cars are nice examples of car crafting.

[hollowayshotrods]

No history other than owned it for a couple years. I did all the mechanical work to it, installed the ZZ4, rebuilt the front end, etc. I would have no problem parting with it forever, in fact, I really don't even like the car that much! I want to run footbrake the first year, then maybe consider moving up to whatever is next, I do want to race though! Not just real street, I also really think my boys would love being part of the pit crew.......Family fun!!

[mopar1968]

Rudy i have to agree with Brian, If you want to race then trade but remember you can drive the Camaro anytime you want, If it were me i would keep the Camaro :!: :!:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

[Harbone]

if you want to go racing why not trade? you still have a street car right? so you would have the best of both worlds. I wish I could have 2 toys sitting in the garage but I would need a bigger garage first! your camaro is nice but its not original, like you said you cant build the car he is offering you in trade for what you are asking for your car. I loved reading your post about the first time you took your car to the track, now imagine pushing that magic button (transbrake) holding the gas pedal to the floor and releasing the magic button when the last yellow hits. All hell breaks loose!!! the first time I launched on a transbrake I could not even describe the rush, I had 2 foot brake cars before that, at their best ran 7.40's in the 1/8th, then I got the 84 Camaro and ran a 6.40 on my first pass and I lifted about 550 feet, my hands were shaking so bad from adrenilin that my wife had to help me take my helmet off!! If you want to go play and the car is as nice as it look, what the hell make the trade and go have some fun!

by the way, thats just my opinion... :D

[Harbone]

btw, did the owner say what it runs??

[dragonmaster093]

personally like both my choice is the camaro but thats me would love a street strip car patialy cause with the exeption of a little street racing started at secret local by old timers closest strip is like 100 miles a way so id need be able to cruise car shows and local burn out contests and be able to throw old ladyand kids in but hey jmo and desires

[mooneye777]

Me being a serious drag car lover, I would trade. You need to realize that with the nova. All street drivability is out the window. It will probably make short trips at best, mainly because the fuel cell wont carry enough fuel. Does it run on race gas or pump gas? That was the problem with my mustang, at 3 to 4 mpg and requiring 110 octane fuel. 25 mile road trips are maximum distance, but that is what I want, so that is what I got. I see your camaro has a few spots that will need attention soon and thats something to consider also. The nova would be an exciting ride for sure. But also a more strict maintenance scedule will have to be performed as well.

[TheYellaBrick]

No history other than owned it for a couple years. I did all the mechanical work to it, installed the ZZ4, rebuilt the front end, etc. I would have no problem parting with it forever, in fact, I really don't even like the car that much! I want to run footbrake the first year, then maybe consider moving up to whatever is next, I do want to race though! Not just real street, I also really think my boys would love being part of the pit crew.......Family fun!!

RACERCAR IT IS !!!
Let those boys get a taste of acceleration and speed !!

:D :D :D :D :D

[Tod74]

If you have no sentimental atachment to the camaro I'd trade in a heartbeat. The 66-67 ChevyII IS,in my opinionn THE BEST LOOKING car to make a drag car with. period. I love em.

[fla1976]

If you want to race, then go for it. They are both nice, but it's either race it or cruise it.

[cam67152]

I'm partial to camaros, but there's something to that nova! Trade.

cam67152

[hollowayshotrods]

Alright, after several days of back and forth in my mind.........I am not going to make the trade! It just doesn't make complete sense to me to do it. I really want to go racing with a kick ass car, but something in my gut is telling me not to do it. I apppreciate all the good advice y'all gave me and I had fun wrestling with this decision.
Thanks again!
Rudy

[MEMRACING62]

did you have a chance to look at the nova in person? is listed here on rj?

[hollowayshotrods]

I did not look at it in person, I might would have overruled my gut if I had.
It looks like a damn nice car from the pics, just have that nagging feeling that I shouldn't do it. He said he had it listed on RJ for a while, got tired of the lowballers bugging him. Boy, do I know that feeling!

did you have a chance to look at the nova in person? is listed here on rj?

[I972Nova]

If you do decide to trade for a racecar, my recomendation would be get one as light as possible. Weight is free e.t. and you definately want one that is certified for better resale value.

Thats a good lookin Chevy II but I dont think its worth what your Camaro is. I would think that you could get a Tube chassis car thats good and light for it.

[shybx1969]

Do what yer heart/mind tells you to do!!!!REMEMBER LIKE MY FATHER ALWAYS TOLD ME / :D YOUR GONNA BE DEAD ALONG TIME!!!!!!!!!ENJOY LIFE TO ITS FULLEST!!!!!!!!!!!

[Scooterz]

Rudy-

As you may know, I have a 69 Camaro. Mine is more of a Drag Car... but street legal (well, it has plates/tags anyways). It will NEVER be the same again... I would sell it before I tried to tackle that project!! I agree w/ Tod that a 66/67 Nova in Black is about as good as it gets for a awesome looking drag Car!!! Great weight, good looking, just bad ass. I wish I could drive mine more, but it is too impractical is my point & this Nova is even more radical.

When I read your post, my gut said DO NOT do the trade. On a buisness level, a straight-arrow mostly stock 69 Camaro w/ AC like yours is a appreciating market & an easy sell. How cool is that to put your family in it & go to the zoo??? Man, I would love to do that!! Mine is 2 seats & my kid accidentally head his head on my roll bar once at a cruise... I felt terrible!!! My point is, combining race & street is a hard thing to do. When the market is fine, you can get good money for a car like yours... which should appreciate. You can always get a drag car... or build one. I think you are on the right path. Ask yourself this question: if you could have the perfect 66/67 Nova, what would it be in your mind? If it is not the one you are looking at, don't do it. I guarantee for the money you sell your Camaro for, you will be able to find/build/locate the perfect 66/67. JMO, Scoot

[dragonmaster093]

hey rudy what ever happened with this deal?

[hollowayshotrods]

Sam,
Thanks for asking, I sold my Camaro to a lady in Tuscaloosa, Alabama a couple Saturdays ago. Instead of buying ME a race car, I bought my boys a jr. dragster, need that quality dad/sons time, not to mention they are old enough to get rolling.
I have a very nice '68 Nova that I will finish up and drive on the street for awhile.

[Harbone]

Sam,
Thanks for asking, I sold my Camaro to a lady in Tuscaloosa, Alabama a couple Saturdays ago. Instead of buying ME a race car, I bought my boys a jr. dragster, need that quality dad/sons time, not to mention they are old enough to get rolling.
I have a very nice '68 Nova that I will finish up and drive on the street for awhile.

thats nice Rudy :!:

[dragonmaster093]

good to here rudy glad to hear father son time is important (wish i had it when i was young) my granpa passed me my love of cars. and im passing it on to my step son and daughter

[hollowayshotrods]

Thanks guys, I am happy about it. I am really looking forward to them telling me they pissed their britches on the first pass :!:
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/hollowayshotrods/Junior%20dragster/IMG_4393_1.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/hollowayshotrods/Junior%20dragster/IMG_4391_1.jpg

They are bummed out with this unusually cold weather we have been having in NC. Mooresville is open for t&t, weather permitting.

[dragonmaster093]

well rudy teaching them important life lesson good thing come to those who wait

[Scooterz]

That is money & time well spent Rudy. Good times ahead for you guys.

[MEMRACING62]

This is great!! you and the boys are gonna have a great time :D

[BEAST477]

Man Rudy that's great. These will be times they will never forget. Teach them to be safe and keep us posted on how thier racing goes. 8)

[hollowayshotrods]

Thanks for the kind words guys. I am not very popular with my wife right now, she will lighten up soon though! I will cut her off until she plays nice! :lol: OK, not really :shock: Here is the first picture taken, the day we got it. Don't look at my garage, we are sheetrocking it, my buddy already saw the pic, wanted to know when I moved into that dump!! :roll:

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/hollowayshotrods/dads%20pictures/Jr1.jpg

[curtisreed]

Rudy,

I have bought a lot of stuff for myself and none of it felt as good to get as the stuff I have gotten for my kids. Hope you guys have a blast.

Curtis

[TheYellaBrick]

This is precisely why I've decided to sell 'the YELLA BRICK', so I can spend my remaining days teaching my grandkids values, skills, patriotic pride in our U.S.A., and how to THINK, problem solve and survive in the coming years.
I've been blessed to have been able to live part of my 'material' dreams, now I've been blessed with all my new family members. And I VALUE the second part more than the first ! :D :D :D

[hollowayshotrods]

Curtis,
Well put my friend!
DD,
Selling the "Yellow Brick" :!:............... Say it ain't so :!:
If it has got to go, no better reason than yours :wink:

[dragonmaster093]

rudy wife let you out of the dog house yet? lol

[hollowayshotrods]

You kidding me or what :?: My doghouse has heat and a/c I am in it so often :!:

rudy wife let you out of the dog house yet? lol

[dragonmaster093]

better run cable out there too and fully stocked fridge lol

[TheYellaBrick]

It 'tis true, Rudy, and for the specified reasons. We'll run it in March at the Mojave Mile then it;ll go to a new home if I can get enough interest $$$$$$

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