View Full Version : What The Heck is Trade Value?
racer1
11-22-2009, 03:17 PM
I am really trying to understand what these people mean by "Trade Value is Higher".
Everything has a dollar value period! If you are trading someone for something, the value doesn't just automatically go up because you are trading.
mopar1968
11-22-2009, 03:45 PM
I agree there is one on RJ that sell's and trade's race cars i have tried and tried to deal with him his last ad he is selling a car for $18,000 but he said trade value is $22,000, sounds like he is saying mine is better than yours, RJ should not let people do this :!: :!: :? :? See ad#1639340 :!:
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
RonOwensRacing
11-22-2009, 08:40 PM
Sounds like they are wanting something worth more than there's if they trade kinda stupid in a way if yours is worth 22 and there's is worth 18 why would you trade.
kwkracing
11-22-2009, 09:28 PM
I see there point and many times i feel the same way. If im not getting cash, i would like to get something worth more than the cash value, since your trading for something you cant sell it for its value.
bbchevy
11-23-2009, 02:45 PM
Heres the Way i see it?
If they have Something that you can use or Want?What difference does the Value make..........?
If its Not something that fits,?Move On!
Later
G 8)
Scooterz
11-23-2009, 03:59 PM
I think it also sounds a little desperate when they have to have cash to boot... no matter what, trade value is higher... even if it is an even trade or buyers car is worth more??? It makes a seller look desperate & like they are in financial trouble. I say "never let them see you sweat" ... why act like you need the money so bad??? Otherwise, don't trade the car if seller is too broke. Either it sounds desperate, or it sounds arrogant... one of the two. JMO
kwkracing
11-23-2009, 05:06 PM
:roll:
mopar1968
11-23-2009, 05:18 PM
Well to sum it up, My car run's just as fast as his does, looking for something different, so when he raised trade price on me i just left it alone, His car should run in the 5's being that light and a large engine, but oh well :!: :!:
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
lively
11-23-2009, 05:41 PM
my opinion still stands ---if you say trade value is higher then you are being arrogant and think your item is more important then any body elses :oops: :oops:
i will just walk away and let them rot :evil: :evil: :evil:
IF I WANT 15,000 DOLLARS FOR MY CAMARO BUT ASK 18,000 TRADE VALUE-THEN WHAT I AM SAYING IS I REALLY WANT 18,000 DOLLARS FOR IT--AND YOU [THE SMALL ,LITTLE ,PATHETIC BUYER] SHOULD ' BEG' ME FOR A BETTER DEAL-- RIGHT :? :? :? -GO GET???./,./.././.---I DON'T NEED THE DEAL AND WILL BUY SOMEWHERE ELSE :o :o :o
LIVELY
kwkracing
11-23-2009, 07:51 PM
no because you usually can not get what u should for something so you sell it for less.... i know i have sold things that were worth 30,000 for 15,000 just because i wanted them gone. Not because i needed the money. But if someone wanted to trade me a 30,000 motorcycle, im not going to give them my item and 15,000 more cash!!! But if they want to buy it out right 15k cash!
This is just my theory
chrisr
11-23-2009, 08:15 PM
I kinda see both sides point, me personally if I was selling my car for 15,000 or trade, I wouldn't put the trade value higher. If someone had a trade I liked and thought was fair I would trade. If they where asking 15,000 for their car and I didn't think it was worth it I wouldn't trade. If they where asking 13,000 for their car and I thought it was a good trade so be it, I would trade.
oldandtired
11-24-2009, 05:08 AM
Trade value is list price. Cash price is actual value.
JMO :D :D :D
Dave
Scooterz
11-24-2009, 10:56 AM
Guys,
I guess it all depends on how you look at it. You cannot deny "trade value is higher" sounds fishey... I personally think it is pretty bold in this economy... but that is just me.
Bottom line, it is trying to combine two TOTALLY different transactions into one. They are separate... a trade is a trade, & a cash sale is cash sale. My opinion is NEGOTIATE the deal as it comes in to play... trying to negotiate a deal in the ad is like trying to win a poker game before the chips are out. Are we good negotiators??? or do sellers KILL their buyer base before a phone call because of a poor ad that sounds cocky??? A deal should be a man to man transaction with communication & executed clearly. Not some ad that defines the basis of 2 transactions BEFORE it even starts!!! I am like Lively, NO THANKS ON THE "TRADE VALUE IS HIGHER" ADS.... I WON'T EVEN CALL.... KEEP YOUR HEAVENLY CAR OF GOLD. JMO!!!
racer1
11-27-2009, 12:15 PM
These are all good opinions. It clears up some of the issues.
It sounds sort of like going to a car dealer and trying to trade something in. You know what I mean. The dealer always tells you your trade in is worthless and they will take it "off of your hands" for half of what it is worth and be doing you a huge favor. Then the next day they give it a bath and put it back out on their lot and ask double for it. Then when you try and buy it, it is all of the sudden the most valuable thing on the planet.
When I trade with people, I decide what each item is worth as a cash value and trade from there. If it is close to the same value and it is something I want, I trade with this person. I don't try and squeeze extra cash out of them.
I agree with the other post about when I see "Trade Value is Higher" I don't even bother with this person.
steakandracingfuel
11-27-2009, 05:45 PM
hell. i have tried undertrading just to try to get myself what i needed and still got this same kinda runaround --well mine is worth this much. well howdy doody--mine is too, i just lowballed a trade to you because you have what i am looking for and you have it priced such and such.
mopar1968
11-27-2009, 06:24 PM
I look at it this way, If mine is worth $20,000 and they are asking $20,000 cash price then we are even,Why not trade? Just because i am asking $20,000 doesn't mean they can ask $24,000 trade :!: :!:
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
RonOwensRacing
11-27-2009, 08:19 PM
I traded a race/pro street car for a tube chassis race car two months ago it is the nova in my pro file i sold this car two years ago and bought it back when i sold the car i got 18K for it rolling i bought it back for 15K rolling raced it for another year and traded it for the Malibu i got now even and met the guy half way five hour trip for both of us.
The car i traded for was on here for sale last year for 12.500 and i talked to the guy that had it a couple of times last year i could have bought this car for 11K but decided that i would just keep racing the nova .
I traded and got what i wanted he got what he wanted so should have i ask him for more money ?
As long as you both get what you want you both should be happy and not worry about what it is worth my car fit his bill and his mine good deal both ways .
And if they have trade value higher i go on by but that's just me. :D
kwkracing
11-27-2009, 08:50 PM
gosh, no one seems to understand how it works... :shock:
mopar1968
11-27-2009, 08:58 PM
Oh yeah we get it :!: :!: They are trying to rip someone getting more than what theirs is worth, saying the other person's isn't worth enough :!: :!: How do you think they would like it if the table's were turned on them :?: :?: I agree with ''Lively'' i just move on :!: :!: Are you one of these type of people that put's trade value higher than what you are asking :?: If so then you in a round about way could be listed one section down :!: :!:
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
from the quiet one
MEMRACING62
11-27-2009, 09:08 PM
people in hell want ice water, dont mean there gonna get it!! over priced crap sits, just that simple. :roll:
Scooterz
11-30-2009, 03:40 PM
Weather we understand it or not, you can clearly see how it is interpreted by the majority...
Again, it is 2 different transactions being listed in one ad. Since a value is subject to ones opinion & the market, what governs the trade value being more on a ad? I am guessing what KW is saying is this: "the sale price is X". IF you want to trade, I will do it, but I would rather sell, but I will do it for "X" more.... is that right? The buyer is giving more for the convenience of trading because the seller would rather sell & get a certain amount of cash.
kwkracing
11-30-2009, 07:26 PM
yes , i ask a fair price i can get for items i sale, not top dollar. It seems like people often want to trade me for something they are asking top dollar or even more for. And just because i knocked my price in half and your still asking full price, i wouldnt trade.... It should be a fair trade.
Does this make sence? It seems a little hard to type out.
I really dont sell much stuff, but when i buy stuff i dont try to barter down the price and i wish people wouldnt try it when im selling mine.
Again, it is 2 different transactions being listed in one ad. Since a value is subject to ones opinion & the market, what governs the trade value being more on a ad? I am guessing what KW is saying is this: "the sale price is X". IF you want to trade, I will do it, but I would rather sell, but I will do it for "X" more.... is that right? The buyer is giving more for the convenience of trading because the seller would rather sell & get a certain amount of cash
dragonmaster093
12-02-2009, 09:58 PM
heres the problem im having got my car up for grabs looked an here before i decided rough price (im flexable) and simular cars are$4k-$7k but i also took into concideration the money i put in the motor right at the $5k mark so that combined knowledge i set my mind to no more then $6k trade i look at and if asked cash my bottom would be $4500 trade value is what ever catches my but no more then earlier stated. sent a feeler out on a 3500 listed price truck his reply was sure your car and 2500 cash and you trans port to me :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: that was such an insult and would have liked to give him a peice of my mind but hey figure if he wanted he would have been decent ( so fuk him jmo)
SS68NOVASS
12-03-2009, 02:06 PM
trade value is not more than yours is worth it maybe more than your asking cash price example: if i have $7,000 in a car and only want to sell it for $3,000 doesn't mean i'll trade it for a car thats only worth $3,000 thats just my opinion
kwkracing
12-03-2009, 04:39 PM
haha.... we are going to have Websters Dictionary a deffinition for Trade Value soon!
Trade value should be close to what in a fair world the item is worth.
Cash Price is the Lowest you will take!
This has been a interesting post.
racer1
12-14-2009, 05:19 PM
This has been fun!
Bottom line; if you will take a certain cash price for something, then that is all it is worth to you. Forget all the trade value crap!
When posting put a reasonable price on it and either sell or trade it for what it is worth and it is that simple.