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hammertime
10-18-2009, 02:03 PM
Even open when they know its cold outside and then not prep the track for anything with hp ?!?

I had a very frustration weekend to say the least.. went to 131 yesterday to break in some new tires and make sure everything woked well after the rewire. I couldnt even begin to tell you how bad that place was .. at 1000ft I was thanking the big guy above I didnt total my car on my 3rd pass down the track ... $100.00 bucks and my day down the drain ...


today I really wanted to see if these tires works .. went to Milan .. today was nicer and the sun was out so I thought I would be in luck .. boy was I wrong !! I couldnt get past 500ft today without feeling like I was on a slip and slide.... I even called before I left and asked if it was going to be sprayed and prepped as I had a 7.4's car.. sure will be I was told. I even tried a buddies tires straight off his car ... same results.

sorry for the venting but its unreal to me why tracks put people in danger like this ... and I guess shame on me for even trying to race at these places with mid 50's weather ?!?

I hope to get one last effort at it this next weekend at Norwalks Halloween Classic .. that place will be prepped !!

I972Nova
10-18-2009, 02:08 PM
Damn Dave sorry to hear about all that! A couple friends of mine went out to trails today and had similar results. 9.50 car was slip slidin before the 1/8th mile.

On the bright side, you know that Norwalk hooks even in the snow :lol:

gungho
10-18-2009, 03:09 PM
They do it for the money,period....

shawnp
10-18-2009, 03:22 PM
I am really surprised you got anything in seeing the weather around for the last couple days. As for Milan, it is a skating rink on a good day. We do not go up there any longer. Not worth it.

We will be pulling in to the classic Thursday night.

What size tire did you put on?

hammertime
10-18-2009, 03:25 PM
I am really surprised you got anything in seeing the weather around for the last couple days. As for Milan, it is a skating rink on a good day. We do not go up there any longer. Not worth it.

We will be pulling in to the classic Thursday night.

What size tire did you put on?

weather was actually pretty nice out, i've sure raced in worse

Went with the 3185 MT 33.5's I've been trying to get a entry into fridays race .. they have some open but I cant get it until I get to the gate which means I may show up wed or early thursday



No doubt these places care more about money then anything ... very sad what things have came to

shawnp
10-18-2009, 03:27 PM
Dave, you thinking that it might be time to step up to the 34.5's?

hammertime
10-18-2009, 03:37 PM
Dave, you thinking that it might be time to step up to the 34.5's?

nope I refuse to run them, not because I dont think it'd maybe slow it down into the range thats deadly but all my last cars it wasnt needed to go this fast. I sure hope it was the track .. if not you'll see me doing some major changing at the classic lol
Mongs was actually better with the 33.5 mt over the 34.5 hoosiers.

shawnp
10-18-2009, 04:00 PM
I don't think you will slow down with them. I know that we ran the left lane a lot the last trip to bunker hill. The car was 1.066-1.071 with no signs of shake at all. You and Mong were the only ones I saw having issues. This time of the year, we would struggle on cold tracks with the injection hitting the tire hard. Is the converter your to aggressive for the cold track?

hammertime
10-18-2009, 05:13 PM
I don't think you will slow down with them. I know that we ran the left lane a lot the last trip to bunker hill. The car was 1.066-1.071 with no signs of shake at all. You and Mong were the only ones I saw having issues. This time of the year, we would struggle on cold tracks with the injection hitting the tire hard. Is the converter your to aggressive for the cold track?

Mongs wasnt having issues at the hill when we were there, he had issues a few weeks before that though with the 34.5 hoosiers on his, he had mt's on there when we were there. first 60FT doesnt seem to be the issue its at the shift that seems to be the issue, 1.072-1.078 4 hits today, even at bunker with the wore out gys it was 1.05 but wouldnt make it at the shift.
I do have my none aggressive converter in there 6800 loose as they come, was made for my orange car when it was a hardtail and has been pretty trusty to be no aggressive. Today it did manage to get about 500-550ft 4.81@129 was 3.049 to the 330.

But the main issue even with Crawfords hoosiers today was that it would not stay straight when it started making power after the shift, . Its a scary ride ... if I do anything I may put a 3.90 gear in it this winter to calm it down a little.

cepx111
10-18-2009, 06:04 PM
Our little backwoods track was hooking great, hooking so good I broke my dana 60 :shock:

Tod74
10-18-2009, 06:11 PM
They do it for the money,period....

Sorry to highjack but How about some pics of that chevelle in your avatar!!! I have a 72 I am building now it was my first car.... :D

shawnp
10-18-2009, 06:20 PM
But the main issue even with Crawfords hoosiers today was that it would not stay straight when it started making power after the shift, . Its a scary ride ... if I do anything I may put a 3.90 gear in it this winter to calm it down a little.
Dave, stupid question, but you have you checked the front uprights? You sure the vibration issue you had did not cause any problems? I know that we both make decent power, but I would not think enough power to shake the tires down track. The skating issue sounds like track and no matter what tire you had on you were going for a ride but if you have not checked, take a good look. I know that Bill White had an upright break on the front of his old Nelson and that created some down track issues. Don's Nelson that would be the same as yours had issues as well.

hammertime
10-19-2009, 04:20 AM
But the main issue even with Crawfords hoosiers today was that it would not stay straight when it started making power after the shift, . Its a scary ride ... if I do anything I may put a 3.90 gear in it this winter to calm it down a little.
Dave, stupid question, but you have you checked the front uprights? You sure the vibration issue you had did not cause any problems? I know that we both make decent power, but I would not think enough power to shake the tires down track. The skating issue sounds like track and no matter what tire you had on you were going for a ride but if you have not checked, take a good look. I know that Bill White had an upright break on the front of his old Nelson and that created some down track issues. Don's Nelson that would be the same as yours had issues as well.

When we did the rewire we checked everything over nothing is broken, I agree we both make good power but still shouldnt be enough to cause tire shake, but I can tell you saturday @ 131 it was so bad I put in high gear @ .30 out and 300ft out it was shaking the tire still. I hope your dead on with the crappy tracks causing the issue down track, I've said this car all along has stuck to the track in dewy stuff then anything I've had before, I hate for that to change now. I love walking on a track and your shoes dont stick ... :roll:

sc4405
10-19-2009, 07:12 AM
Hmmmmm...... been reading these posts as well as on DRR about the 3185's, thinking about trying them next year. I read somewhere about VP's LC6 supposed to be a good cold track compound, just wonder what the track was using? My GY 2532's didn't fare too well in the heat of the summer, but in the last four weekends with cooler (80 or so) track temps they are printing the slips. It's only moved .02 in the eighth the last 16 passes, and ran dead-on with zero in the 1/4 last weekend. But still want to try the Mickey's, maybe get the freshest set possible next spring. 8) JB