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bjuice
08-27-2009, 05:39 PM
i am a Chevy Guy and been one all my Life....But dang Fords 2010 GT 500 Hotrod is Killing the 2010 Chevy camaro...both Muscle and looks

i know the Price is 15k more but at least Ford is stepping up to the plate in the age of electric cars and scooters.


the Gt 500 has 540 hp and look Great ($48,000)

the 2010 camaro SS2 is 426 HP Looks like Fido's a$$ ( IMO) for $33,000
I mean COME ON that was a feeble attempt by CHEVY ON muscle ( IMO)


Ford has even Stepped up their Taurus ( SHO) Turbo charged V-6 making 350hp and 350 ft lbs of Tq. 8) ...ALL FOR $23,000



Why can't Chevy step up to the plate ( FOR -REAL AND STOP PLAYING)... make a TRIBUTE car to the 69 camaro Body style..turbo charge INTERCOOL it for 600 hp MANUAL 6 SPEED... :shock: :shock: :shock: :D 8) :roll: :idea:

I swear I would shovel Cow CHIT to get one of those if it happened.




wadda think Guys ?

hollowayshotrods
08-27-2009, 05:46 PM
I went up to the local Chevy dealer (Larry King) and looked at a 6 cyl Camaro they had (didn't have a v8 in stock). Not impressed at all, in fact I thought the interiors sucked.
I agree juice, the Mustang is a seriously bad a## ride! As far as shoveling cow dung for the Camaro you described, I would likely EAT a couple shovel fulls for that! :shock: :shock: OK, only one shovel full. :lol:

newjack42
08-27-2009, 05:47 PM
agree with youn 100% bjuice. I have been nothing but chevy all my life but more and more everyday i keep leanin toward ford. I never thought i would ever consider a ford but now its a different story.(if i had any money) There new f150 Raptor looks like its goin be one heck of a truck too.

TheYellaBrick
08-27-2009, 05:50 PM
Way back when it was rumored that Chev was bringing back the 'maro and all the prototype pics were popping up, I about puked when I saw them and am STILL puking now that they have hit the streets under the Camaro nameplate.
Ford and Mopar hit home runs with the 'stang and Challenger and I was expecting a visually competitive unit from Chev. The 'maro is a great looking car but NOT under the Camaro badge.

fla1976
08-27-2009, 05:52 PM
I would rank the Mustang 1st, the Challenger 2nd and the Camaro a distant 3rd. I think the whole idea of having to install an engine from the bottom is ridiculous. I've installed an engine from the bottom in a Firebird and it is a pain. From what I have been told, the new Camaro is a bottom feeder too.

qtrmile2
08-27-2009, 06:00 PM
I agree Brian.
Ford has it all over Chevy. I thought about ordering a new Camaro but the more I see them the worse they look. I gave up on GM when they made the new GTO. That's when I realized who was designing the new cars. These guys don't have a clue.
The new Camaro comes with Z stripes and they call it an SS. What the heck happen to the RS hide away lights. RS was hide away lights not an emblem. Help me out here, two stripes down the hood and trunk are Z28 only. SS came with Hockey puck and Bumble bee stripes ONLY. So why are they putting Z stripes on an SS.
They don't have a clue. They don't even know what a 69 Camaro looks like.
The new Camaro looks like a Cadillac Seville. If your a Chevy guy what the hell do you buy if you want a new Muscle car?

DirkaDirka
08-27-2009, 06:57 PM
i am a Chevy Guy and been one all my Life....But dang Fords 2010 GT 500 Hotrod is Killing the 2010 Chevy camaro...both Muscle and looks

i know the Price is 15k more but at least Ford is stepping up to the plate in the age of electric cars and scooters.


the Gt 500 has 540 hp and look Great ($48,000)

the 2010 camaro SS2 is 426 HP Looks like Fido's a$$ ( IMO) for $33,000
I mean COME ON that was a feeble attempt by CHEVY ON muscle ( IMO)


Ford has even Stepped up their Taurus ( SHO) Turbo charged V-6 making 350hp and 350 ft lbs of Tq. 8) ...ALL FOR $23,000



Why can't Chevy step up to the plate ( FOR -REAL AND STOP PLAYING)... make a TRIBUTE car to the 69 camaro Body style..turbo charge INTERCOOL it for 600 hp MANUAL 6 SPEED... :shock: :shock: :shock: :D 8) :roll: :idea:

I swear I would shovel Cow CHIT to get one of those if it happened.




wadda think Guys ?

Just to add to the misery of the GT 500. You can also upgrade the GT 500 to 720hp and some other mods to the exterior. They call that the Super Snake. But you will have to send the GT 500 to Shelby America in Vegas to get that upgrade. I got a pic of one on my racespace. Its not a really good pic. I will try to find a diff one.

MEMRACING62
08-27-2009, 07:00 PM
Alright I know you guys are gonna poo poo on me but I like the new camaro. my sister bought the 2SS , I think its pretty cool. If i could I would have a challenger , mustang & camaro, I think there all great 8)

DirkaDirka
08-27-2009, 07:03 PM
Alright I know you guys are gonna poo poo on me but I like the new camaro. my sister bought the 2SS , I think its pretty cool. If i could I would have a challenger , mustang & camaro, I think there all great 8)

Oh yeah and I like the looks of the new Camaro and Mustang but no tthe new Challenger. To me the Challenger looks like the Camaro anyways. Just a lil diff mod to the front and back end.

Tod74
08-27-2009, 09:28 PM
I am gona buy a Chrysler 300 ....Best looking car out right now in my opinion. Looks like a Gangster car with a chopped top. 8)

cepx111
08-27-2009, 10:28 PM
Yep GM really dropped the ball on the 'new camaro' not even close to looking like a 69 camaro.

On the other hand, Ford got it right on the money, just see for yourself.

67 GT500 super snake






http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x266/racecarx111/67_shelby_super_snake.jpg

2010 GT500 super snake
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x266/racecarx111/2008_SuperSnk.jpg

I just thought I'd throw this one on here too, I'm gonna dub this one the super snake!

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x266/racecarx111/kingsnake.jpg

bbchevy
08-28-2009, 05:30 AM
Whad Do i THINK???
WOW!!!
F O R D S U C K ! ! ! > > > ....
Later
G 8)

shybx1969
08-28-2009, 10:14 AM
WHAT ARE THESE CHEBY DESIGNERS THINKING????DO THEY GO OUT AND TALK TO THE GUY WHO IS GOING TO BUY IT??????THE WORKING MAN??????OR DO THEY DESIGN WHAT THEY LIKE?????DONT LOOK LIKE A 69 TOO MEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yes , yes i know it has too meet mpg standards,it has to be aerodynamic but come on, it dont look like a 69 at all!!!! Why do they offer a 300hp v6 most guys want a 300hpv8,then if you can afford it buy the 40k 400 hp v8....They should have offered a middle grade v8 that they put in the ss impala...too keep the price reasonable but still have a v8!!!!!! Most people that buy a 6 cyl want economy!!!!Accept maybe the tuner kids!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll: :roll:

THERATTLER
08-28-2009, 10:50 AM
:D :D :D H E Y !!!that girl looks like my neighbor :D :D :D
:o :o :o H U H ??? What mustang :?: :?: :?: :D :D :D

MEMRACING62
08-28-2009, 11:24 AM
I am gona buy a Chrysler 300 ....Best looking car out right now in my opinion. Looks like a Gangster car with a chopped top. 8)DONK OF THE FUTURE :lol:

DirkaDirka
08-28-2009, 12:54 PM
I am gona buy a Chrysler 300 ....Best looking car out right now in my opinion. Looks like a Gangster car with a chopped top. 8)DONK OF THE FUTURE :lol:

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9987/picsmed149743390562006c.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/i/picsmed149743390562006c.jpg/)


Too late already done

DirkaDirka
08-28-2009, 12:54 PM
I am gona buy a Chrysler 300 ....Best looking car out right now in my opinion. Looks like a Gangster car with a chopped top. 8)DONK OF THE FUTURE :lol:

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9987/picsmed149743390562006c.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/i/picsmed149743390562006c.jpg/)


Too late already done

Tod74
08-28-2009, 01:21 PM
I am gona buy a Chrysler 300 ....Best looking car out right now in my opinion. Looks like a Gangster car with a chopped top. 8)DONK OF THE FUTURE :lol:

Yep when I buy mine I am also gona get me sum twentyfos

bjuice
08-28-2009, 02:01 PM
Whad Do i THINK???
WOW!!!
F O R D S U C K ! ! ! > > > ....
Later
G 8)


they might have used to sux but i assure you they Don't Now..Plus they Took No TAX PAYER Bailout Money !!!!

Tell me Greg.. Where do they SUCK ? :?: ..i wanna make sure i ain;t missing something ?

everyone has their opinions..its all Good !

RiceIsWrong
08-28-2009, 02:07 PM
I think all three.. well what used to be the big 3 had it's pros and conns but now.. well bjuice is right, i am a chevy guy myself but Ford is the only one left. GM partially Gov. owned and well crysler ?? :o

bjuice
08-28-2009, 02:14 PM
WHAT ARE THESE CHEBY DESIGNERS THINKING????DO THEY GO OUT AND TALK TO THE GUY WHO IS GOING TO BUY IT??????THE WORKING MAN??????OR DO THEY DESIGN WHAT THEY LIKE?????DONT LOOK LIKE A 69 TOO MEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yes , yes i know it has too meet mpg standards,it has to be aerodynamic but come on, it dont look like a 69 at all!!!! Why do they offer a 300hp v6 most guys want a 300hpv8,then if you can afford it buy the 40k 400 hp v8....They should have offered a middle grade v8 that they put in the ss impala...too keep the price reasonable but still have a v8!!!!!! Most people that buy a 6 cyl want economy!!!!Accept maybe the tuner kids!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll: :roll:

I hear ya and I agree....But chaulk another one up for Ford...the 2010 Ford Taurus ( SHO) is a V-6......Its turbo charged and makes 350hp and 350ft lbs of Tq...and still gets 25mpg on Highway.......we talking about a true blue Grocery Getter, car pool take your Kids to School Car.....23k

DirkaDirka
08-28-2009, 02:46 PM
I am gona buy a Chrysler 300 ....Best looking car out right now in my opinion. Looks like a Gangster car with a chopped top. 8)DONK OF THE FUTURE :lol:

Yep when I by mine I am also gona get me sum twentyfos


Why do I see one in the future with twentyfo drag slicks on the back?? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tod74
08-28-2009, 03:02 PM
I am gona buy a Chrysler 300 ....Best looking car out right now in my opinion. Looks like a Gangster car with a chopped top. 8)DONK OF THE FUTURE :lol:

Yep when I by mine I am also gona get me sum twentyfos


Why do I see one in the future with twentyfo drag slicks on the back?? :lol: :lol: :lol:

and a 6.57 gear :lol: :!:

shybx1969
08-28-2009, 04:51 PM
Please lord!!!!!No more 4dr muscle cars!!!!Give me more 2drs!!!!!!!Please bring back the 70 chevelle retro!!!!!!! :D

DirkaDirka
08-28-2009, 05:00 PM
I think they need ot bring back the old cars. The 30'40's era.

DirkaDirka
08-28-2009, 09:15 PM
OK this may not be a new GT 500 but it was a new car. I dont know if anybody has seen this before I am sorry if you have. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdbcFtVbrIo&feature=related

bbchevy
08-29-2009, 06:56 AM
Whad Do i THINK???
WOW!!!
F O R D S U C K ! ! ! > > > ....
Later
G 8)


they might have used to sux but i assure you they Don't Now..Plus they Took No TAX PAYER Bailout Money !!!!

Tell me Greg.. Where do they SUCK ? :?: ..i wanna make sure i ain;t missing something ?

everyone has their opinions..its all Good !

You Ever WORK on 1 of them ASS Backwords,FORDS?Of course you have!
And Yes,everybody has OPINIONS?

OPINION=An Opinion is Like a A S S HOLE,Everybody has 1.Some are JUST Larger than Others?
Later
G 8)
JMO!

DONK=WHAT Again???It just Seems like i realy NEED to KNOW?

bjuice
08-29-2009, 07:33 AM
Whad Do i THINK???
WOW!!!
F O R D S U C K ! ! ! > > > ....
Later
G 8)


they might have used to sux but i assure you they Don't Now..Plus they Took No TAX PAYER Bailout Money !!!!

Tell me Greg.. Where do they SUCK ? :?: ..i wanna make sure i ain;t missing something ?

everyone has their opinions..its all Good !

You Ever WORK on 1 of them ASS Backwords,FORDS?Of course you have!
And Yes,everybody has OPINIONS?

OPINION=An Opinion is Like a A S S HOLE,Everybody has 1.Some are JUST Larger than Others?
Later
G 8)
JMO!

DONK=WHAT Again???It just Seems like i realy NEED to KNOW?


nahhHHH In the past never cared enough for them ( Fords) enough to have one around long enough to work on it.( other then adjusting some valves for friend )


Bottom Line Chevy has dropped the Soap and Ford is standing right behind them....you can take it from there...!!!!


I hope Chevy gets their pride back in 2011 and do somethingabout it...as of Now the Bowtie is Fords...BEEEEEEOTCH !


Don't get me Wrong i am Chevy Guy....just keeping it real in 2010 !!!!

Below is what i think about Ford ( past tense)

http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo354/brianmcswain1/05160922341.jpg

bbchevy
08-29-2009, 07:57 AM
Heres the WORST Part?
I OWN a Ford,BUT...................?Its a 1938 WITH a Blown Chevy!
If you Look in my Racespace,i have it PICTURED.
Later
G 8)

shybx1969
08-30-2009, 07:03 AM
I own a 08 gt but i do not like the 2010 mustang!!!!!The tail lites dont look like any old stang ive seen!!!!!Ford is going toward the 98 to 04 look again why????????They is gonna lay and egg!!!!!The front looks good but i still think 05 to 09 looks the best!!!!!But the paper shufflers always get thier way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheRabbit
08-30-2009, 09:00 AM
WHAT ARE YOU CHEVY GUYS ON! All of you that have posted bad things about the Camaro are on RJ forum restriction for 2 weeks. NO EXCUSES for this kind of talking!!

The 2010 mustang looks good, but it looks like the '09 Camaro! I do like the front, but not the chop top very much. I really don't like the half glass roof. I just looked at 'em for about 5 mins and have no idea what is standard and what options are avail.
I do agree that Chevy needs to think long and hard about it's new cars and the cost of new cars.

and yes, PLEASE NO MORE 4 DOOR MUSCLE CARS!! Make more 2 seater cars and put Corvette motors in 'em!! :wink:
But you guys are still on restriction for 2 weeks!!!!!

fla1976
08-30-2009, 09:03 AM
Sorry Cap'n Wabbit

gearhead1011
08-30-2009, 09:15 AM
You Ever WORK on 1 of them ASS Backwords,FORDS?Of course you have!
And Yes,everybody has OPINIONS?



If you're basing your opinion of Ford on how difficult they are to work on you would have to hate GM and Chrysler too. I've had my own repair shop for 27 years and IMO they have all done some pretty stupid stuff when it comes to working on them. I had a guy working for that was complaining about how hard some of the cars were to work on and he said "you know, they could've made this easier to work on". I told him if that if they did the unskilled, ill-equipped, shade-tree mechanics would be doing the work and he wouldn't have a job. :roll:

DirkaDirka
08-30-2009, 09:17 AM
WHAT ARE YOU CHEVY GUYS ON! All of you that have posted bad things about the Camaro are on RJ forum restriction for 2 weeks. NO EXCUSES for this kind of talking!!

The 2010 mustang looks good, but it looks like the '09 Camaro! I do like the front, but not the chop top very much. I really don't like the half glass roof. I just looked at 'em for about 5 mins and have no idea what is standard and what options are avail.
I do agree that Chevy needs to think long and hard about it's new cars and the cost of new cars.

and yes, PLEASE NO MORE 4 DOOR MUSCLE CARS!! Make more 2 seater cars and put Corvette motors in 'em!! :wink:
But you guys are still on restriction for 2 weeks!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: Boy am I glad im not a Chevy guy!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

TheYellaBrick
08-30-2009, 09:31 AM
I'm an all around PRE '70's car guy. I look under the hood of any of this new stuff and just shake my head.... K.I.S.S. !!

bluegrassjh
09-29-2009, 11:39 AM
Well...seeing as how I sell Chevy's I'm going to lean towards the Camaro. You can have all the h.p. you want, but if it doesn't hook up it's a waste. The new Camaro has some weak points, but so do the rest of them. The Challenger looks o.k. i guess, but I just can't get into it. (not because I'm fat) It just looks weird with that tall roof line.

Scooterz
09-29-2009, 03:11 PM
Well... I see all points here. I looked at an SS about a month ago & it claimed more like 400HP+ i think?? I looked at the QP gills, body lines, gauge cluster, Console, etc... not sure they really made a retro 69 very well in my opinion.... (I am not biased, I have a 69 Camaro). At the very least, I would want a modern cowl hood & better looking wheels & tries... not sure about the grill too... the RS/hideaways would look neat too on the 2010 Camaro.

I like the Challenger.... if it was rid of the smog mess, no California model, w/o an ECU that was responsible for wiping your azz... Come on, I could not work on that thing!! A computer has to diagnose a ECU Computer to tell you what sensor does what???? No thanks, sick of that game. Gut it, drop a 426 naturally aspirated motor in it & a 4spd & I think it would be cooler.

Clearly in my opinion, the Mustang FB is the best retro muscle car. It preserves the nostalgia the best... but here we go again... too many sensors, smog controls, cats, blah blah blah...

OUR MUSCLE CARS NOW DAYS ARE SOCIALIZED. Pretty soon, if you speed, they will call the cops on you or something. Scoot

BEAST477
09-29-2009, 04:00 PM
I'm a Chevy guy through and through but the Camaro is a sad knock off of a retro IMO. If I had to choose from the three it would be the Challenger.

TheYellaBrick
09-29-2009, 04:06 PM
X2 on that, Scoot. The muscle cars of yesteryear were social outcasts, outlaws, and outa sight ! My new crew chief owns an '05 Camry that she owned before 'us'. I won't even change the oil or tires unless it's an emergency, but that is IT !! Well, okay, wash and wax it for her, but that's ALL !! AAaahhhhh, okay a vacume and window clean but no MORE !! I tell her I don't own any tools that will fit anything anywhere on it. Besides, my extra large hands would get stuck if I even put them anywhere NEAR that engine !!
I WILL work on her first or second gen Mustang she wants built though !! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Scooterz
09-29-2009, 04:17 PM
You are funny Double/D. The Camry is a female car for sure. I hear they last a long time too. Now the 1st or second gen Mustang... I think you should get her into a 67/68 FB of some kind... that would be cool. make it a cruzer w/ PB/PS & get her to feel comfortable first... then gradually, do little "Updates" while she sleeps... until you get er in the high 11's or 12's.

TheYellaBrick
09-29-2009, 04:23 PM
She does like the 67/68 but in the coupe'....the stealth 'updates' will for sure happen ! :D She goes "rumpa-rumpa-rumpa' as we are sitting at a stop light next to some riceburner just wanting to kick fried rice all over the place :shock: all while we are in HER ricer :oops: :oops: :D :D