View Full Version : need 2 more tenths off
shortysracing
08-08-2009, 08:55 PM
Need 2 more tenths off my time. What is something little to do.
ashbros
08-08-2009, 09:01 PM
Try stepping on the gas pedal a little harder. lol
How bout telling us a little about your car, chassis and engine & tranny combo
I972Nova
08-08-2009, 09:21 PM
I would take off the Kanooder valve. Thats usually good for about 3 tenths. Maybe even throw some new Muffler bearings in that bad boy, if yours are worn it will slow it down some...
Sorry, I am tired and gettin a little goofy... Some more info would be very helpful!
bigray
08-08-2009, 10:01 PM
GO ON A DIET..LOOOOOOSE SOME WEIGHT
Tod74
08-09-2009, 12:33 AM
Lie.
seriously though,
To answer that question we need a bunch more info. 2 tenths is a whole lot easier to shave off on say a 12 second car than it is a 9 second car. What does it run now? Does it dead hook? is it a tank? Foot brake or trans brake? gear ratio? Is it missing any plug wires ? Does it have a corvette motor?
Cheapest way is to make sure everything is tuned to the best of your ability or your smartest buddy's ability then take as much weight off the car as you can..especially rotating weight such as wheels.You could also stage really shallow or use a taller front tire this will give you more roll out and a little bit of a runing start...don't know if it's worth 2 tenths but it's worth a little.
Easiest way is to just spray it with a small kit if you aren't already.
fla1976
08-09-2009, 04:07 AM
The easiest way is to take off weight. Fiberglass hood, deck lid, doors and bumpers. Lexan windows. More HP is the second choice.
shawnp
08-09-2009, 04:52 AM
Buy yourself a big shot system from NOS. Wire the system but do not use any of the retards or timers. Make sure you jet for the biggest hit you can get out of the plate. When you hit the floor, lay on the spray. Now that you have displaced your rods you got yourself an excuse to build a bigger motor. Hang on to that NOS, you might have the need to go faster again. :lol:
blowninjected540
08-09-2009, 05:37 AM
If Money is no option throw a superchager on it. LOL :lol: :lol:
joeready
08-09-2009, 08:46 AM
cool air to carb
for a bolt on, Some carb spacers are good for 10-12 horses :idea:
FullTimeRacing
08-09-2009, 04:54 PM
He is getting addicted,We all want more! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
OneBadGMC
08-09-2009, 05:52 PM
If Money is no option throw a superchager on it. LOL :lol: :lol:
There is no replacement for displacement...unless it involves boost!!!
TheRabbit
08-10-2009, 04:36 AM
Buy yourself a big shot system from NOS. Wire the system but do not use any of the retards or timers. Make sure you jet for the biggest hit you can get out of the plate. When you hit the floor, lay on the spray. Now that you have displaced your rods you got yourself an excuse to build a bigger motor. Hang on to that NOS, you might have the need to go faster again. :lol:
LMAO!
Man you guys are being tuff on this poor guy!! LOL
I agree, we need more info, but put your car on a diet!!!!
You can even use a race calculator and play with the #'s to see how the weight will effect it.
This is a site I like to use when I'm bored.
http://www.wallaceracing.com/Calculators.htm
suicidebomb
08-10-2009, 07:13 AM
Guys, I think shorty done lost interest.
oldandtired
08-10-2009, 08:26 AM
Guys, I think shorty done lost interest.
Maybe he can't get a ride back to the library to use the computer. :?:
Dave
TheRabbit
08-10-2009, 08:57 AM
Well that was only Saturday night when he posted. Not to mention you guys were pretty cruel with the replys!! lol
BTW I had a Kanooder valve on my old go -cart. I tied a string to it and tied the other end to the gas pedal and man did that thing come alive!!
Good tip and may be worth way more than a few tenths!!
suicidebomb
08-10-2009, 09:39 AM
From a saftey standpoint: One should NEVER wash a Kanooder valve, I washed mine, and I can't do a thing, with it.
TheRabbit
08-10-2009, 09:47 AM
From a saftey standpoint: One should NEVER wash a Kanooder valve, I washed mine, and I can't do a thing, with it.
Man that was a rookie mistake. I thought everyone knew not to wash 'em! Now you gotta take it apart, dip it in hot wax, bake it to 650 degrees then fill it with NOS.
That'll work only it you didn't let the smoke out of it. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER let the smoke out of a Kanooder valve. Not sure why but they're just like an MSD box, when you let the smoke out it ruins 'em!!
suicidebomb
08-10-2009, 10:05 AM
Yep, I let the smoke out!!DANG IT, is a new kanooder valve my only option? I really don't have the cash for a NEW kanooder valve.
DirkaDirka
08-10-2009, 10:11 AM
Well someone on here MIGHT have an extra kanooder valve. When you let out the smoke did it smell rotten eggs?
suicidebomb
08-10-2009, 10:16 AM
Well someone on here MIGHT have an extra kanooder valve. When you let out the smoke did it smell rotten eggs?
No, It was more like asparagus and bacon like. With just the slightest hint of oregano. Yeah, that was it.
DirkaDirka
08-10-2009, 10:19 AM
OK than it was working fine. If it smelled like rotten eggs that meant it was bad and you would of had ot replace it anyways.
TheRabbit
08-10-2009, 10:23 AM
SHEEEEW! I thought you were gonna say it smelled like fish! That would have been bad!!
suicidebomb
08-10-2009, 10:28 AM
I HATE it when they smell fishy.
CamBirdRacing
08-10-2009, 11:33 AM
Let me know what you guys found out, I am looking to lose about a second. :lol: In the first 60'.
TheRabbit
08-10-2009, 11:40 AM
Let me know what you guys found out, I am looking to lose about a second. :lol: In the first 60'.
:shock: :shock:
I think you're best bet would be to find a double Kanooder valve motor and put a 2,500 shot of Nos on it and HOLD ON!! :shock:
DirkaDirka
08-10-2009, 11:42 AM
Yeha but you got to make sure that the motor is a double kanooder vavle vette motor with a 3/4 cam in it
oldandtired
08-10-2009, 12:00 PM
I found a place in Kenohsa that rebuilds kanooders. It's a kindy kinky place.
Dave
TheRabbit
08-10-2009, 12:10 PM
I finally figured it out. A long time ago someone told me they rebuilt Kanooders in Kalamazoo. No wonder I couldn't find 'em. There in Wisconsin!! Oh Boy, I'm in trouble. I don't speak French very well.
DirkaDirka
08-10-2009, 12:20 PM
Well you got to be careful when you send them to get rebuilt. They might put a dillywag in it that doesnt need to be in it. They did that to mine and I lost 5 secs on the 1/4 mile but my speed was faster.
RAYSIN
08-10-2009, 07:09 PM
first try staging as shallow as possible, water/ methanol injection is the current most bang for your buck, and works great with carbs or fuel inj. that will easily give you what you need!
Tod74
08-10-2009, 09:16 PM
first try staging as shallow as possible, water/ methanol injection is the current most bang for your buck, and works great with carbs or fuel inj. that will easily give you what you need!
I thought that was mainly used to combat detonation in a boosted application? just asking.
cepx111
08-10-2009, 09:42 PM
Here we go on the water/methanol and or washer fluid injection again.
Dang it man, there must be something to this stuff!
Tell us more since shorty's not listening.
Curious in Tn
DirkaDirka
08-10-2009, 09:48 PM
Hey guys go easy on him he is new here. He might not have seen the post from before.
OneBadGMC
08-10-2009, 10:00 PM
first try staging as shallow as possible, water/ methanol injection is the current most bang for your buck, and works great with carbs or fuel inj. that will easily give you what you need!
What?!?!?!
You're out of your gourd.
DirkaDirka
08-10-2009, 10:03 PM
MAN he got mater all riled up now!!!! :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
RAYSIN
08-11-2009, 11:06 AM
first try staging as shallow as possible, water/ methanol injection is the current most bang for your buck, and works great with carbs or fuel inj. that will easily give you what you need!
What?!?!?!
You're out of your gourd.
Dont knock it till you've tried it
ashbros
08-11-2009, 09:41 PM
I am just a little confused. Naw, I freaking lost. :?
Would you kindly care to elaborate on your comments posted above.
If your going to go out on a limb and post something ina an effort to help a fellow racer or weekend warrior, Please provide factual info to back up your claim. It will help us all out in the future, in more ways than one.......
On another note,
Considering the initial cost of an intercooler vs. the cost of a water injection system, I have seen some impressive results on the dyno using water injection in lieu of an intercooler on procharger systems, but it is in no means a simple bolt on....
For the weekend warrior, installation & tuning the system may be just a little more than one would desire. The kits are not nearly as larger as a 1500 to 2000 hp A/W intercooler, as a matter of fact, they are quite compact and they do not take up near the space as does an A/W intercooler.
The kits are quite a bit cheaper than an intercooler, but remember, you get what you pay for... And there are limits to the levels of performance you will be able to achieve.
cepx111
08-11-2009, 11:49 PM
Ok I dig what he's trying to say about a water injection system aided detonation a blown application, but he also said something about using them on a N/A motor> WTH?
Yeah dude, elaborate.
suicidebomb
08-12-2009, 12:00 AM
I tried water injection, couldn't get the motor started, so I went back to methanol.
Tod74
08-12-2009, 01:30 AM
I tried a toilet but the water kept sloshing out all over my windshield.
oldandtired
08-12-2009, 05:02 AM
I tried a toilet but the water kept sloshing out all over my windshield.
Thank goodness you don't have windshield wipers! :o
Dave
TheYellaBrick
08-12-2009, 05:44 AM
I used a toilet in place of a bucket....seat....got confused and made a real mess :roll: :oops: :oops: :oops:
ashbros
08-12-2009, 07:36 AM
There ain't nothin worse than a little splash back when trying to used them toilets.
TS1955
08-12-2009, 07:45 AM
I tried a toilet but the water kept sloshing out all over my windshield.
You forgot to put the lid down!!! LOL!
TS1955
OneBadGMC
08-12-2009, 10:37 AM
Ok I dig what he's trying to say about a water injection system aided detonation a blown application, but he also said something about using them on a N/A motor> WTH?
Yeah dude, elaborate.
Yeah, they work on a gas blown motor, not on a N/A motor. I don't know what he's smoking, but I think he should stop now. :!:
MEMRACING62
08-12-2009, 01:12 PM
first try staging as shallow as possible, water/ methanol injection is the current most bang for your buck, and works great with carbs or fuel inj. that will easily give you what you need!
What?!?!?!
You're out of your gourd. I HAVE TO LMAO AT THIS , THIS IS NOT NEW, BACK IN ABOUT 1979-80 WARSHOSKY SOLD A KIT IN THERE CATALOG THAT MADE ALL THESE CLAIMS OF HP INCREASE USING WASHER FLUID OR WATER. I FELL FOR IT! IT DID NOTHING! JUST CANT BELEVE AFTER ALL THESE YEARS THIS PREFORMANCE QUACKERY IS STILL AROUND :lol: :lol: :lol: MIGHT HAVE DONE SOMETHING IF I SPRAYED IT ON THE WINDSHILD!!
bjuice
08-12-2009, 05:00 PM
Lie.
seriously though,
To answer that question we need a bunch more info. 2 tenths is a whole lot easier to shave off on say a 12 second car than it is a 9 second car. What does it run now? Does it dead hook? is it a tank? Foot brake or trans brake? gear ratio? Is it missing any plug wires ? Does it have a corvette motor?
Cheapest way is to make sure everything is tuned to the best of your ability or your smartest buddy's ability then take as much weight off the car as you can..especially rotating weight such as wheels.You could also stage really shallow or use a taller front tire this will give you more roll out and a little bit of a runing start...don't know if it's worth 2 tenths but it's worth a little.
Easiest way is to just spray it with a small kit if you aren't already.
lol....Lie...Thats a Good One Tod.....but ohh so orginal...draging racing and fishing have much more in common than most realize....lol.... :wink:
BEAST477
08-13-2009, 04:31 PM
Lie.
seriously though,
To answer that question we need a bunch more info. 2 tenths is a whole lot easier to shave off on say a 12 second car than it is a 9 second car. What does it run now? Does it dead hook? is it a tank? Foot brake or trans brake? gear ratio? Is it missing any plug wires ? Does it have a corvette motor?
Cheapest way is to make sure everything is tuned to the best of your ability or your smartest buddy's ability then take as much weight off the car as you can..especially rotating weight such as wheels.You could also stage really shallow or use a taller front tire this will give you more roll out and a little bit of a runing start...don't know if it's worth 2 tenths but it's worth a little.
Easiest way is to just spray it with a small kit if you aren't already.
lol....Lie...Thats a Good One Tod.....but ohh so orginal...draging racing and fishing have much more in common than most realize....lol.... :wink:
Hey Brian, is that like the first liar doesn't stand a chance? :lol:
LuckyDawgRacing
08-14-2009, 10:58 AM
Hey, I live in Ky. I want to know, whats a toilet?
OneBadGMC
08-14-2009, 11:20 AM
Hey, I live in Ky. I want to know, whats a toilet?
It's that porcelain thing inside the house that replaces your outhouse.
fla1976
08-14-2009, 11:58 AM
LOL :P :lol: :lol:
TheRabbit
08-14-2009, 02:31 PM
Flying Toilet Carbs.
http://www.killerrons.com/toilets.cfm
ashbros
08-15-2009, 08:46 AM
This is somewhat amusing. Shortysracing started this thread and has never returned, Yet we have 4 pages of replies and some guy from kentucky now knows what a toilet is..... LOL
I guess he really did not need any help or he figured out that if you keep your foot planted to the floor & keep the car straight, you can go fast....eeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........
oldandtired
08-15-2009, 12:53 PM
Maybe he finally moved the seat foward and can now press the acelerator to the floor!!
Dave
Tod74
08-15-2009, 01:14 PM
All you have to do is line up next to a car faster than you AS long as you keep it believable... that way you have a time slip to show any Doubting Thomas you encounter.Then you just say the fast car was you. Unless it's a race car with permanent numbers who would know? :idea:
bjuice
08-15-2009, 05:34 PM
oh i know a good One...." YAAAA it ran a 5.30et but it had a lot more in it " !........ :shock:
ashbros
08-15-2009, 09:46 PM
oh i know a good One...." YAAAA it ran a 5.30et but it had a lot more in it " !........ :shock:
Yep.....
That one will send you a walking, shaking your head, while asking yourself, why it had to be you he was talking to....Why me, LMAO