bad trader!!!! SUIE54

[carseeker]

traded with this guy in Dallas NC and found out car was not what he stated and took car to restoration shop and found it the car was worth about $15K
less than i traded for. When i told ray about the findings he just said "i didnt know". I have had a ton of messages from other race J traders telling me of wrong doings on Rays part concerning deals they had done with him. I just want him to make it right and give my truck back to even up the trade deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hollowayshotrods]

traded with this guy in Dallas NC and found out car was not what he stated and took car to restoration shop and found it the car was worth about $15K
less than i traded for. When i told ray about the findings he just said "i didnt know". I have had a ton of messages from other race J traders telling me of wrong doings on Rays part concerning deals they had done with him. I just want him to make it right and give my truck back to even up the trade deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here we go again, jump on the merry go round guys!

Name, ad #, phone number, etc. That would go a long way in getting someone to listen.

[Scorpion1110]

Here is his racespace:

http://www.racingjunk.com/profile/130392

Cars in ads look decent and he is a gold seller with honor payment(s).

Badstage1 its as Rudy said- you need to lay out your case against this member.

Scorp

[MEMRACING62]

when you traded for this car didn't you inspect it before you made the trade?if you agreed at that time that it was an exceptable trade it sounds more like a case of buyers remorse than a scam. :? seller is not responsible for what you think the car isn't worth.

[bbchevy]

traded with this guy in Dallas NC and found out car was not what he stated and took car to restoration shop and found it the car was worth about $15K
less than i traded for. When i told ray about the findings he just said "i didnt know". I have had a ton of messages from other race J traders telling me of wrong doings on Rays part concerning deals they had done with him. I just want him to make it right and give my truck back to even up the trade deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5-Months LATER?
Line up 10 Guys and ask what the cars Worth,i bet you Get at Least 8 Different ANSWERS???
DUDE,Get a LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Theres NO SCAM HERE,Your Just Pissed cause you have BUYERS REMORSE!
Later
G 8)

[racefan55]

definately buyers remorse!! raymond is a hell of a guy! he and i met on here and have become really good friends!! i have dealt with raymond on numerous occasions and raymond is a straight up guy!!
this guy posted a pic of an old beat up truck that he says his son bought him, he is not mentioning that raymond traded him a BAD ASS 60's vette convertable.. we all know what those vettes are worth and how they trade..
some people on here do not need to be trading.. once i make a trade then its done, i dont complain or cry if i got the bad end of the deal, you take the good with the bad.. this guy did have the vette on here for awhile for trade and under his ad it stated how nice the vette was.. (hell if he dont want it, ill trade for it)
raymond doesnt need the money, he trades on here for fun, and to meet new people!!! its unfortunate that someone posts an ad like this because the other person doesnt want to give him his truck back after 5 months!

[masamiba]

MAN I EMAILED YOU AND YOU TOLD ME THAT IT WAS YOUR MISTAKE WELL HELL GROW THE FUC- UP AND STOP THE DAMN CRYING I HAVE DELT WITH ALOT OF PEOPLE ON HERE AND THIS IS BULL SHI_ YOU TRADED TAKE IT LIKE A MAN I HAVE TAKEN BAD DEALS AND I AM A MAN OF MY WORD IF I SAY I WILL TRADE ITS MINE AND HEL_ YOU HAD THE LAST WORD SO WIPE YOUR EYES AND GROW UP AND BECOME A MAN RAYMOND IS A STRAIT ACROSS GUY ......................................
AND THATS THE BOTTEM LINE HERE.............................................. :D :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[RonOwensRacing]

How can you ask some one to make a new deal 5 month's later should have taken some one with you to look at the car if you had any kind of doubt.

Those vette's are hard to get and are worth a good deal of money even basket case's bring good money but even with all that you made a deal 5 month's ago sounds like you own the vette to me i wouldn't even call some one back after i made a deal it is mine then and i own it regardless what it is worth i guess one question you should ask your shelf would you change the deal 5 months later if the shoe was on the other foot Probably not .
I don't know either person here but sounds like to me you just need to stand up to the deal you made and go on with your life.

[hollowayshotrods]

I almost forgot, badstage1, bring that 'vette to me and I will trade you my sweeeeeeeeeet '69 Camaro turnkey AND my sweeeeeeet '68 big block Nova. That is no bullbleep, I swear I will do it :!:

[GRAHAMCLASSIC69]

RAY IS A GOOD GUY TO TRADE WITH.
WE HAVE TRADED SEVERAL TIMES.
SOMETIMES I COME OUT ON TOP,SOMETIMES HE COMES OUT ON TOP!!!! YOU CANT WIN THEM ALL,THATS WHY THEY CALL IT TRADING!!!!
YOU INSPECTED HIS CAR AND TRADED SO STOP WHINING AND BE A MAN!!!!
STAND UP AND TAKE IT AND MAYBE YOU WILL COME OUT ON TOP NEXT TIME!!!!
JUST A OPINION OF A REAL TRADED THAT DONT BACK UP AND TRADES AS AGREED TO WHETHER I GET FUCKED WITH A 10" OR JUST SCREWED A LITTLE WITH A 3"!!!!
THANK YOU,
DAVID(GRAHAMCLASSIC69) :D

[Tod74]

The funny thing here is this...YOU started this thread to make the other guy look bad, and discredit him.
FAIL

The fact is,in my opinion, the only thing you acomplished was to make anyone that reads this NOT want to deal with YOU.
If you traded it's on you. It is up to you to know what you are trading for. If you looked at the car and agreed to the trade, and took the car home with you, then it's yours. DO YOUR HOMEWORK before you tade, not after. :roll: This isn't WAL MART

[MEMRACING62]

HERE ON RJ FORUM WE NEED A WHINING AN CRY BABYS SECTION. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Tod74]

I just looked at his pictures and what in the world is this guy complaining about? must be some truck he traded.

[mopar1968]

Everyone has a opinion of a car's value, I think mine is worth at least $50,000, and the Challenger is worth $75,000 :!: :!:
You checked out the vette right? You done the deal right? Soooooo it is your baby, $ 15,000 or $ 100,000 :!: :!: :!:

''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

http://www.racingjunk.com/profile/163312

[ashbros]

bbchevy

There nothing like getting straight to the point!

Try not to hold back next time.....LOL

[ashbros]

Hey mopar,

You forgot the decimal. It should be placed two spaces to the left for each amount... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[mopar1968]

''ASHBROS'' :lol: :lol: :lol: You know i can understand people coming on here to 'Bitch,moan,whine' But waiting 5 months to do it :?: Dude if you wanted the vette appraised you should have done that before the trade so you wouldn't be here 5 months later whining like a little bitch, You didn't so deal with it, life goes on, we all have sold, traded, bought, car's trucks,women,food, and after we got them home we decided we didn't like them,So we either sold, traded, or divorced them :!: :!:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

http://www.racingjunk.com/profile/163312

[racefan55]

Ad # 1615357
this guy just posted another ad, someone really needs to let him know that he truely is a cry baby.. the car sat in his barn/garage for awhile and then some guy from FL told him it wasnt worth what he put into it, now he wants ray to give him his truck back.. lol.. are you kidding??
A TRADE IS A TRADE, YOU GO LOOK AT THE CAR YOURSELF, ONCE YOU PULL OUT WITH THE CAR, ITS YOURS!! NO NEED TO CRY ONCE YOU GET HOME OR MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD!!
bring the vette to me, id be glad to own it!! (i wont even cry about it)
he keeps saying people are warning him about ray and all this shit, thats a bunch of BS.. anyone and everyone that trades, .. KNOWS THAT SOMETIMES YOU GET THE GOOD, AND SOMETIMES YOU GET THE BAD, YOU JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TRADE, THATS WHAT GROWN MEN DO!

[MEMRACING62]

I GO TO A LOT OF SHOWS AND YOU SEE A LOT OF GUYS SITTING NEXT TO THERE CAR , YA ASK THEM SOMETHING ABOUT THERE CARS ,ABOUT THE WORK DONE TO IT, WHATS IN IT ETC... THEY DONT HAVE A CLUE. :shock: BUT THEY WILL TELL YA I PAID 25K FOR IT.THE BEST ONE IS WHEN THEY BRAG ITS A TRUE SS AND IT HAS A MALIBU DASH IN IT. THERE GOT TO BE TEN TIMES MORE TRUE, REAL SS CHEVELLE OUT THERE NOW THAN GM EVER BUILT!! IF DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR BUYING YA SHOULDN'T BE BUYING :!: :idea:

[DirkaDirka]

The thing I love is how he started this thread andhasnt been back on here to defend himself or show any proof of this. Yet he puts another ad on trash talking this guy saying he has all this proof. Also has a lot of people that has dealing with this guy that had gotten screwed over too!! It just amazes me how some people act. If I was him I would have said yes or no right there on the spot. I wouldnt wait 5 months to say no I dont want it.

[masamiba]

BUDDY IF YOU GOT ALL THESE GUYS THAT RAY HAS SCREWED WHY ARNT THEY HERE DEFINDED YOU .............. BUDDY YOUR DEAL IS DONE STOP CRYING ABOUT IT :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Scorpion1110]

''ASHBROS'' :lol: :lol: :lol: You know i can understand people coming on here to 'Bitch,moan,whine' But waiting 5 months to do it :?: Dude if you wanted the vette appraised you should have done that before the trade so you wouldn't be here 5 months later whining like a little bitch, You didn't so deal with it, life goes on, we all have sold, traded, bought, car's trucks,women,food, and after we got them home we decided we didn't like them,So we either sold, traded, or divorced them :!: :!:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

http://www.racingjunk.com/profile/163312

Mopar, what would you trade for a woman? I have one available, slightly used, requires a lot of maintenance, fairly well optioned ;)

How about a lh fender for a 68 Camaro?

S

[mopar1968]

Deal if she can cook :!: :!:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

http://www.racingjunk.com/profile/163312

[DirkaDirka]

That is sooooo worn gguys. But funny as he!!. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Scorpion1110]

Deal if she can cook :!: :!:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

http://www.racingjunk.com/profile/163312

LOL she cant cook a lick- Horrible in the kitchen-

Mopar, I'll throw in some cash ;)

S

[mopar1968]

Deal, you pay shipping :!: :!:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

http://www.racingjunk.com/profile/163312

[Tod74]

I GO TO A LOT OF SHOWS AND YOU SEE A LOT OF GUYS SITTING NEXT TO THERE CAR , YA ASK THEM SOMETHING ABOUT THERE CARS ,ABOUT THE WORK DONE TO IT, WHATS IN IT ETC... THEY DONT HAVE A CLUE. :shock: BUT THEY WILL TELL YA I PAID 25K FOR IT.THE BEST ONE IS WHEN THEY BRAG ITS A TRUE SS AND IT HAS A MALIBU DASH IN IT. THERE GOT TO BE TEN TIMES MORE TRUE, REAL SS CHEVELLE OUT THERE NOW THAN GM EVER BUILT!! IF DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR BUYING YA SHOULDN'T BE BUYING :!: :idea:

Sorry to highjack but this reminds me of something I seen on ebay yesterday...Now besides the malibu dash...That's obvious. See anything else this "factory BB 4 speed SS car shouldn't have" :D I'm not saying it wasn't a factory BB 4speed car ...just saying it aint all original.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-Chevelle-4-sp-Big-Block-70-Body-SS-Trade-4-Blower_W0QQitemZ290335734574QQcmdZViewItemQQptZSal vage_Parts_Cars?hash=item43995bbb2e&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
http://i.ebayimg.com/04/!B(jp5EQBGk~$(KGrHgoH-CIEjlLl4NtwBKc45N2qr!~~_1.JPG

[THERATTLER]

mayby it was a COLUMN SHIFT 4 SPEED :lol:

[THERATTLER]

MOPAR , YOU BETTER WATCH OUT , THERE MIGHT BE A $100 RESTOCKING FEE IF YOU AIN'T HAPPY WITH THE DEAL :lol: :lol:

[Tod74]

mayby it was a COLUMN SHIFT 4 SPEED :lol:

But it has the shifter hump for the 4 on the floor....So it was a 4 on the floor automatic on the column....the super rare dual trans option. :lol:

[THERATTLER]

saw that in burt rynolds movie one time called GATOR , he drove a LTD , in one scene he was floor shifting and in another he was useing a column shift , so you see , they do make them :D saw some SHAKEY PUDDING on there too :lol: :lol:

[Tod74]

saw that in burt rynolds movie one time called GATOR , he drove a LTD , in one scene he was floor shifting and in another he was useing a column shift , so you see , they do make them :D

COPO

[mopar1968]

Nah i will trade it before returning it, don't like restocking fee's :!: :lol: :lol: :lol:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

http://www.racingjunk.com/profile/163312

[Scooterz]

All you guys are funny.... that is a manual 3 spd colum shift. The floor is for when you want the forth gear... or overdrive, if you will.

[racefan55]

Ad # 1616395
will someone please get this guy a towel to wipe his tears!

[hollowayshotrods]

Unreal!! Speechless!

[DirkaDirka]

Yes and he called this thread a pi$$ing match too. LOL

[mopar1968]

I just recieved this from ''Badstage1''

no you dont know whats going on, guy is full of shit and got all his croneys trying to make him look good. What proof do you need? most people messaging me don't want to get involved just want to tell their story about him because i will listen. I can give you the restoration shops name,(D&B CORVETTES) his web address(www.dbcorvettes.com) and phone (419-682-1617) the frame has had shitty frame repair at the kick ups, car has a 65 front end not a 64!!! The guy who wanted to buy it from me in florida texted ray yesterday asking him about car and ray gave no response. Now that you call me full of shit show me you can follow up with this info and then tell me i have no evidence!!!!!!
If you truely want to find the truth, follow this and then i can send exact photos of these spots. I havent gone back to forum because ray has his friends trying to defend his shit...i dont need to ask my friends to come to my rescue!! proof is in the pudding, run with the info provided or i guess take your own advice

[mopar1968]

Just got this one from ''Badstage1''


i will go there now and copy and paste comments from other traders. give it alittle time to show up.

''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

[hollowayshotrods]

Waiting with a bag of popcorn.

[DirkaDirka]

I got the beer if anybody wants any.

[racefan55]

i honestly have never seen a bigger cry baby in my life!! most people dont want to get involved?? are you kidding?? thats because your making these people up!! the guy texted ray? LOL!! i dont even think ray knows what a text is.. RAY NEVER ASKED ME TO COME TO HIS RESCUE! ONCE AGAIN I MET RAY ON HERE!! HE IS A DAMN GOOD GUY, AND THIS BS THAT YOU KEEP POSTING ABOUT HIM IS A SHAME..
SERIOUSLY MAN, LISTEN TO YOURSELF! YOU TRADED FOR THIS CAR 5 MONTHS AGO, AND NOW YOUR COMPLAINING!!!!! WOW!!!!
i bought my wife a new yukon 4 months ago.. my buddy said i got screwed and paid too much, im going to take it back tommorrow and see if the dealer will give me my money back.. u think they will??

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[mopar1968]

Ok first of all i want everyone to understand i am netural, i don't know either party, I just talked with Scott on the phone, he has tried to post pics of this vette in question, He stated his wife had surgery right before trading for this car, on the way down she got sick, when he arrived, he was on the phone with her Dr, someone unloaded the 67 chevelle, and loaded the vette, he did put one strap on the car before leaving, after getting home, some vette owners came over to look at the car, it has a 65 front end, not a 64, it has a raditor cap a 64 doesn't, it has a over flow tank, the front bumper is bolted to the fiberglass front end,instead of frame,not metal front end, alt is on the wrong side, wrong engine in car, has had frame patched, raditor support not bolted in, he is going to send pics to my e-mail if anyone want's them just pm me your e-mail address, he has tried to post them but doesn't know how. He is upset, not cursing just upset because [ he say's ] the car isn't what it was described to be. he was very nice to me other than being upset!!PLEASE DON'T KILL THE MESSENGER :!: :!: :!:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

[carseeker]

mopar1968 thanks for taking the time and being "Neutral" and helping figure out what i was doing wrong with this post. Most of the others here have been fast to say(racefan55) that maybe I'm friends with the shop owner!
get real, if i had a friend that was a specialist in vettes dont you think i would have used his knowledge and never bought the car? You fast to point out my faults but no once questions Ray!!! Sounds like your quick to judge and just protect the good ole boy from NC. Again, thanks Mopar1968 for talking to me and actually the first to keep a neutral position about this.
I will send pics tonight to him so he can see what is up with the car.

[Scorpion1110]

mopar1968 thanks for taking the time and being "Neutral" and helping figure out what i was doing wrong with this post. Most of the others here have been fast to say(racefan55) that maybe I'm friends with the shop owner!
get real, if i had a friend that was a specialist in vettes dont you think i would have used his knowledge and never bought the car? You fast to point out my faults but no once questions Ray!!! Sounds like your quick to judge and just protect the good ole boy from NC. Again, thanks Mopar1968 for talking to me and actually the first to keep a neutral position about this.
I will send pics tonight to him so he can see what is up with the car.

Honestly you cant complain when you went in person to pick-up the car. That your wife was sick, is unfortunate, that you chose not to look at the car is unfortunate as well. But,

You had the CHOICE to not make the deal and you did- that anything is wrong is no longer the seller's fault. If you took him to court you would win nothing because you inspected the car, or chose not to.

The seller has no obligation to you nor does he have any obligation to anyone you choose to sell the car to.

His involvement ended when you came in person, inspected the car and agreed to make a trade. If I were him I wouldnt be talking to your buyers either - I doubt he gave you a "lifetime'warranty" on the car. Why does he need to speak to your buyers on a car that he sold and no longer owned and that you inspected? representation of that car is on you as the owner-not the previous owner.

BTW- on a mid-year vette difference in the front between 64 and 65 are the side panels (65 and 66 are same), hood one year only with script on hood and no scallops (63 and 64 are same except for chrome inserts) and the grill which is one year only.

Should you elect to change the incorrect stuff- use sermersheims for the correct coded press-molded fiberglass and corvette central for the grill.

But in the end badstage1, you need to let go of the anger towards the seller- if you want to be angry-be angry at yourself for making the deal.

Scorp

[Scorpion1110]

I just recieved this from ''Badstage1''

no you dont know whats going on, guy is full of s and got all his croneys trying to make him look good. What proof do you need? most people messaging me don't want to get involved just want to tell their story about him because i will listen. I can give you the restoration shops name,(D&B CORVETTES) his web address(www.dbcorvettes.com) and phone (419-682-1617) the frame has had shitty frame repair at the kick ups, car has a 65 front end not a 64!!! The guy who wanted to buy it from me in florida texted ray yesterday asking him about car and ray gave no response. Now that you call me full of s show me you can follow up with this info and then tell me i have no evidence!!!!!!
If you truely want to find the truth, follow this and then i can send exact photos of these spots. I havent gone back to forum because ray has his friends trying to defend his s...i dont need to ask my friends to come to my rescue!! proof is in the pudding, run with the info provided or i guess take your own advice


badstage1-

here is the link from your racespace with the black vette-

http://www.racingjunk.com/gallery/profile/239371/186595

In your email to mopar you said the front end is wrong- I restored a BB 1965 Vette- So you understand- The hood surround is same in 63-67, the lower marker panels are as well, same for the wheel opening lips- the only difference is the side panels ahead of the doors- 63 and 64 are same and horizontal "vents", 65 and 66 are same and vertical vents, 67 is small vent and stand alone.

The front end vents on your car fully appear to be vertical and would denote 1965 vette. So based on your posted pics, thats a 65 front end and contrary to your quoted statement above.

As I noted in my earlier post 65 grill is stand alone as is hood.

Technically the front end on that car looks correct 65- A 65 hood can run close to $450 used and the 65 grill can approach $400 repop as well, as it is not cast but aluminum with a black center.

Like I said I restored a frame off 65 BB 396 car nut and bolt numbers match, and dealt with every vette guy on the east coast and know these cars well- that front end does not look incorrect based on your pics.

Scorp

[racefan55]

=== His involvement ended when you came in person, inspected the car and agreed to make a trade. If I were him I wouldnt be talking to your buyers either - I doubt he gave you a "lifetime'warranty" on the car. Why does he need to speak to your buyers on a car that he sold and no longer owned and that you inspected? representation of that car is on you as the owner-not the previous owner.

=== But in the end badstage1, you need to let go of the anger towards the seller- if you want to be angry-be angry at yourself for making the deal.


this post says it all!! i agree 100 percent!!

as far as badstage, you really dont need to be trading on this site! grown men dont cry about trades, you just move on! you obviously dont trade very much! if you did you would know that you dont listen to what everyone else thinks as far as "how your trade went" i never said you were friends with the shop owner, i only pointed out that you cant listen to what others think of your trade, your a grown man, you made the trade, you went and inspected the car and you took it home!!

ONE MORE THING THAT YOUR NOT TELLING PEOPLE, IF YOUR WIFE WAS THAT SICK, WHY DID YOU STOP AT LAKESIDE CLASSICS IN LAKE NORMAN NC AFTER YOU LEFT RAYS HOUSE AND TRY TO WORK A TRADE ON THE VETTE WITH THEM??

come on dude, seriously this is enough, your making yourself look really bad!! and if you dont want the vette, i got a very sweet 48 anglia that has a shit load of stuff done to it, its bad as hell, ill give it and something esle for the vette..

[Scooterz]

Well said racefan & Scorp.

This is at the top of the list for complete sillyness. Lets see.... I will try to put myself in badstage's shoes.

I am mad that I made a trade that I agreed to for one of the most desirable American classic's the world has to offer.... in good working condition. Next, I am going to COMPLAIN about it to whoever will listen. I admit that I agreed to do the trade at the time, but want to reverse it after 5 MONTHS. When people say that I am not being rational, I will create new threads in the same place & re-address the same problem in hopes that I will get a different reaction. Finnally, when everyone says it is a great car & the trade seemed fair (if not great) I will continue to WHINE.

Is that about right???? Badstage: I am starting to think you have a HIDDEN AGENDA. This is SILLY. What is your REAL CONCERN HERE??? Quit peeking at the thread as if you were some innocent bystander who got robbed & man up with what is really going on or go CRY to someone else.

I can think of MANY people who would love to have a car like that (Including myself). I am finding it hard to feel sorry for you.... especially when we are in this economy & some people can't even afford to keep food on thier table & you are WHINING about your 65 VETTE???? WTH???

[carseeker]

http://s492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badstage1/nightmare/
link to photobucket for pics. look for yourself, ray said it was restored. Is that false advertising???? No hidden agenda, just want persons not to take rays word at face value.

[Scorpion1110]

http://s492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/badstage1/nightmare/
link to photobucket for pics. look for yourself, ray said it was restored. Is that false advertising???? No hidden agenda, just want persons not to take rays word at face value.

badstage1-

looked at your pics- Frame is a definite cobjob. There are certainly things wrong- However it is a midyear vette. If you switched the frame out on that car much of what is bothering you would be fixed- a frame on any 63-78 vette will work although the 68-78 will require some slight modifying of the body mounts.

Invest the money in a frame- I would think you would find a roller for less than $3000 if you look hard. Restore the frame and swap the body, and then deal with the other stuff- you can get all parts.

If you are into the car for around $25-$30K, you could still put another $10k in that car make it nice and get out of it.

You can make it right to yourself with some effort-and you will be able to sleep at night.

But what you must stop doing is bashing the seller- you looked at it, made the deal, and then waited an extended period to complain. Game over in that respect. Let it go stop and blaming the seller.

You have a project ahead of you, but I would make it fun, get that car squared away and then either enjoy it or sell it- Like I said I restored a basket case midyear and you can get every part and everything fits right. Corvette guys are a pain- the repop stuff has to or they will whine till the end of time.

Corvette Carlisle is at the end of August in PA- a Great show and a good time to start your project.

Scorp

[Scooterz]

Badstage-

The pictures indicate some faulty work in my opinion (such as a ground strap connected to the header bolt). It has certainly seen the road too. If this were my car, I would go through the front end after pulling the motor & trans & then go through them too. I will give you this: That car demands a condition of quality/restoration that I am not seeing in the pictures. A real Corvette enthusist wanting that year/optioned Vette may want to do a frame off resto to make it max value/condition. At the same time, some would want to make it reliable, & fun to drive while looking great on the outside.... not necessarily doing a frame off. At any rate, you buy the bed you sleep in. JMO/Scooter

[racefan55]

one more thing you said badstage
someone unloaded the 67 chevelle (did they really?) badstage, you know what im talking about, get your shit straight before you keep on going, otherwise im going to call you out!! u know as well as i do, did they really unload that car at rays?
best thing for you to do is quit crying!

[masamiba]

WELL HERS WHAT I ASK HIM ON THIS DATE On [2009-08-02 16:26:27] masamiba wrote:
> ITS TAKEN YOU LONG TIME TO COME UP WITH THESE NAMES

AND THEN HE REPLED THIS

I've got a life dude, get one yourself. take rays dick out of your mouth also.

AND MY 6 YEAR OLD DOUGHTER OPEN THIS EMAIL SHE DID NOT NEED TO SEE THIS KIND OF STUFF I WAS NOT GOIMG TO SAY ANTMORE ABOUT THIS DEAL BUT THIS IS NOT RIGHT I DID GET ANOTHER ONE AND THIS IS WHAT HE SAID



why, all you did is bash me on the forum. If you honestly was going to see what is true then i would give them but you and i both know you wouldnt like the truth about ray.

On [2009-08-02 16:19:05] masamiba wrote:
> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THOSE NAMES


BUT THE TRUTH MUST HURT FOR HIM TO EMAIL ME THIS AND HERE IS ONE MORE




You need to learn some grammar and how to spell, your ad makes you look like a redneck....whoops i just saw your from WV. :-)

BUT WHAT I THINK HE MUST HAVE LEFT THIS VETT SET ON THE TRAILER FOR 5 MONTHS THEN HAD IT CK OUT AND ALSO HIM AND HIS BOY ?? THAT IS ? IF IT WAS HIS BOY THERE LOADED THE VETT AND TIE IT DOWN AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN A HELPER DONT KNOW I WAS NOT THERE BUT HE SHOULD HAVE SEEN ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT THEN BUT BOTTOM LINE IS A TRADE IS A TRADE HE MADE IT HE HAD THE LAST WORD HE DROVE 10 HOURS TO GET THERE SO YOU ALL KNOW WHEN YOU DRIVE THAT FAR YOU STAND UP AND LOOK AT THE RIDE YOU ARE TRADING FOR AWILE LONGER THEN IF IT WAS CLOSER TO HOME AND YES ME AND RAY HAVE HAD DEALS BEFORE BUT HES A GREAT GUY AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE SO 5 MONTHS LATER WANT YOUR TRUCK BACK SHIT WHEN YOU PULLED OUT OF HIS DRIVE YOU MADE THE TRADE AND AS FAR AS ME BING A REDNECK WELL THATS IS WHAT YOU THINK I KNOW THE TRUTH HAVE A NICE LIFE AND RAY WE WILL TRADE ON SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD HELL IF YOU STILL GOT THAT TRUCK I WILL BUY THAT OFF OF YOU IF NOT MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND ALL BE SAFE AND WHATCH WHO YOU TRADE WITH . :D :D :D :D :) :) :) :( :( :o :o :? :? 8) 8) :lol: :lol: :x :x :P :P :cry: :cry: :oops: :oops: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[carseeker]

this is for racefan55...you sure do know it all, go ahead call me out.
P.S. SUCK IT


racefan55...go ahead and just admit you and ray are sleeping together and sure your 6 yr old open your email...what a bullshitter
P.S. SUCK IT

[masamiba]

WELL READ THE AD ITS NOT RACEFANS AND MY DOUGHER DID OPEN THE EMAIL YOU SAID IT

[masamiba]

AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS COUSE WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO KNOW TO

67 chevelle (did they really?) badstage



DIDNT COPY ALL OF IT SO LET US ALL KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT

[racefan55]

AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS COUSE WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO KNOW TO

67 chevelle (did they really?) badstage



DIDNT COPY ALL OF IT SO LET US ALL KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT

badstage said he took ray the 67 chevelle and someone unloaded it at rays.. that didnt happen, the 67 chevelle never went to rays, that was a 3 way deal between raymond/badstage/and another guy on here from michigan that is a good dude.. i was just pointing out how he knows he is lying..

[mopar1968]

Hmmmmmm well now :!: :!: :shock: :shock: This sure isn't what i was told on the phone last night :!: :!: Look's like someone sure is :oops: :oops: :oops:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

[DirkaDirka]

And what were you told on the phone lastnight?? Your fans want to know.LOL

[mopar1968]

I posted it last night, please read above. Page 3 next to bottom.



''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

[racefan55]

this is for racefan55...you sure do know it all, go ahead call me out.
P.S. SUCK IT


racefan55...go ahead and just admit you and ray are sleeping together and sure your 6 yr old open your email...what a bullshitter
P.S. SUCK IT

ray and i are sleeping together? are you serious?? how old are you?? i tell you one thing, you keep talking all that shit and ill make a trip to your house, im not playing, i have no problem saying what i need to say to another mans face.. this talk over the internet is cheap! who says "suck it" lol.. are you 16???
as far as being from wv, and being a redneck, lol.. wow.. i might be a redneck but i have a bachelors degree and have owned my own business for 7 years, PLUS I DONT DRIVE AN OLD FORD TRUCK THATS WORTH 800 DOLLARS.. (cant believe your calling someone a redneck, and you drive an old rusted up ford truck)
masamiba and i are two different people, his name is mark and he is from morgantown, my name is brian and im from charleston.. we both have dealt with raymond numerous times and both know how good of a person he is.. raymonds wife is not in good health and he dont need all this bullsh** on him.. your made up stories and cry baby whining has gotten real old!!

[masamiba]

OK THAT CLEARS IT ALL UP HE LIES. ABOUT STUFF HE SAYS .THIS ALL MAKES SENTS NOW WELL IM DONE WITH ALL HIS LIES YOU KNOW IF LIVING IN WV MAKES ME A ((REDNECK ))ILL TAKE THAT I CAN LAY DOWN AND SLEEP WITH BEING A REDNECK BUT TO LAY DOWN AND SLEEP AS A ((LIER)) MAN JUST COULDNT SLEEP LIKE THAT IM DONE HERE WE ALL KNOW RAYS A STRAIT UP GUY NOW :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[mopar1968]

Just got this from ''badstage1''


with all the B.S. going on with car i did mix up cars, it wasnt the chevelle that went down to rays it was poboys 34 ford 3 window coupe and not the chevelle.


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

[racefan55]

Just got this from ''badstage1''


with all the B.S. going on with car i did mix up cars, it wasnt the chevelle that went down to rays it was poboys 34 ford 3 window coupe and not the chevelle.


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

LOL... I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY!! WOW!! THIS GUY IS SOMETHING ELSE!!

[mopar1968]

I do he is a lier, he called me long distance at 12 midnight, to tell me a bunch of lies, and when he get's caught then he try's to wiggle out by sending me a message, that he got car's mixed up, BULLSHIT, how can you get car's mixed up, WELL ''BADSTAGE1'' I THINK YOU CAN STOP YOU HAVE SHOWN EVERYONE YOUR TRUE COLOR'S, AS I SAID LONG BEFORE YOU TRADED AND THAT IS IT, A TRADE PERIOD :!: :!: :!:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

[Harbone]

more popcorn please and hurry, before this one fizzles away!

[MEMRACING62]

THE BEER WENT FLAT AND THE POPCORN IS STALE ON THIS ONE :?

[oldandtired]

Let's unplug this one and let it die.

Dave

[blownalky3]

This is really stupid. IF YOU GO LOOK AT A TRADE AND ACTUALLY TRADE, THERE IS NOBODY TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF, PERIOD!!
Here is how it probably went down:

WOW! A early Vette..... Woody

I can trade for it!!!..... Wet front

LETS DO IT..........

Eat your own mistakes. All those pics were right in front of you first hand to look at no camera needed. You should have gotten your Vette lessons BEFORE you traded. There is a bright side... The stuff you traded will go down in value while your Vette will continue to rise.

I did some trading when I was a teen, can I get my sh!!&%t back???

[Scooterz]

[quote="blownalky3"]This is really stupid. IF YOU GO LOOK AT A TRADE AND ACTUALLY TRADE, THERE IS NOBODY TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF, PERIOD!!
Here is how it probably went down:

WOW! A early Vette..... Woody

I can trade for it!!!..... Wet front

LETS DO IT..........

Eat your own mistakes. All those pics were right in front of you first hand to look at no camera needed. You should have gotten your Vette lessons BEFORE you traded. There is a bright side... The stuff you traded will go down in value while your Vette will continue to rise.

I did some trading when I was a teen, can I get my sh!!&%t back???

LOL!!!/ROFL/BUSTED A GUT/ LMAO/ "DAT CHIT WUZ FUNNY"

Well Mr. "Backtradz".... your ship is sinking & your approval rating just went down to Obama's level. Quit while you are ahead.