Tod74
07-30-2009, 10:04 PM
Just wondering what some of you think about welfare and food stamps etc...What SHOULD the criteria be to get it? People gota eat,especially children, but at what point should someone be responsible for their own actions and situation they put themselves in?
EXAMPLE:
I have often compared check stubs with a guy I work with while complaining about how much I get taxed. I paid in almost 15 grand last year in taxes and got back $1500 at tax time. He paid in 8 grand and got back almost $6000 at tax time. I make a little more than him but not much...He makes $22.00 and change per hour.He Just had a brand new house built...he moved in last October...His wife drives a 2 year old Mini van, she doesn't work and they have 3 kids. He drives a clunker and His house payment is over $900 a month and his wife's van payment is almost $300 per month. He told me yesterday he gets $430 a month in food stamps. I could not believe it. .I understand.He is working and doing all he can...BUT last summer when he decided to have the house built we had already started to slow down. He was told by a bank that he was approved for $130,000.00 mortgage even though HE ALREADY had a 6 year old home and a $675 a month payment. He bought this home before even selling the old one.I have been to his old house it was pretty nice, not a slumb by no means, so he didn't NEED a new one, just wanted one, so he took a gamble and was lucky enough to sell the old before the new was finished. He made a stupid move with the new house and over extended himself, now the tax payers are feeding his wife and kids.
Here is the part that bugs me..I asked how he could get aid while he makes that much money and just bought a new house...he said it was because of his net income for the month was too low for a family of 5, and that they asked him what his bills were but never questioned the recent house purchase and took his word for it on what his bills were. They also stopped taking FEDREAL taxes out of his check when we first went to 4 days a week due to how he claimes dependants.Meanwhile my car is sitting because I can't afford to run it and I drive a $500 POS to work. I can't afford to drive my Dually to work anymore , and I can't finance another car right now due to the decreased hours at work and the poor economy. It just pisses me off. He makes it a point to rib me about the amount of taxes we pay and how he makes less per hour than I do but brings home more.He brings home more on 4 days a week than I did on 5...because I am single without children.
Now, in his defense, he didn't get the food stamps until we were cut back to 4 days a week. He could no longer pay his bills and his kids have to eat...I get that, but he put himself in that position, and he even had a deck put on the house a month or so ago. He bought the deck used from a guy at work, and they moved it to his house on a flat bead.I don't know what he paid for it but it wasn't real cheap based on the way he talked when he bought it.PLUS He had to pay the guy to move it for him.
Rant over, just curious what you guys think.
EXAMPLE:
I have often compared check stubs with a guy I work with while complaining about how much I get taxed. I paid in almost 15 grand last year in taxes and got back $1500 at tax time. He paid in 8 grand and got back almost $6000 at tax time. I make a little more than him but not much...He makes $22.00 and change per hour.He Just had a brand new house built...he moved in last October...His wife drives a 2 year old Mini van, she doesn't work and they have 3 kids. He drives a clunker and His house payment is over $900 a month and his wife's van payment is almost $300 per month. He told me yesterday he gets $430 a month in food stamps. I could not believe it. .I understand.He is working and doing all he can...BUT last summer when he decided to have the house built we had already started to slow down. He was told by a bank that he was approved for $130,000.00 mortgage even though HE ALREADY had a 6 year old home and a $675 a month payment. He bought this home before even selling the old one.I have been to his old house it was pretty nice, not a slumb by no means, so he didn't NEED a new one, just wanted one, so he took a gamble and was lucky enough to sell the old before the new was finished. He made a stupid move with the new house and over extended himself, now the tax payers are feeding his wife and kids.
Here is the part that bugs me..I asked how he could get aid while he makes that much money and just bought a new house...he said it was because of his net income for the month was too low for a family of 5, and that they asked him what his bills were but never questioned the recent house purchase and took his word for it on what his bills were. They also stopped taking FEDREAL taxes out of his check when we first went to 4 days a week due to how he claimes dependants.Meanwhile my car is sitting because I can't afford to run it and I drive a $500 POS to work. I can't afford to drive my Dually to work anymore , and I can't finance another car right now due to the decreased hours at work and the poor economy. It just pisses me off. He makes it a point to rib me about the amount of taxes we pay and how he makes less per hour than I do but brings home more.He brings home more on 4 days a week than I did on 5...because I am single without children.
Now, in his defense, he didn't get the food stamps until we were cut back to 4 days a week. He could no longer pay his bills and his kids have to eat...I get that, but he put himself in that position, and he even had a deck put on the house a month or so ago. He bought the deck used from a guy at work, and they moved it to his house on a flat bead.I don't know what he paid for it but it wasn't real cheap based on the way he talked when he bought it.PLUS He had to pay the guy to move it for him.
Rant over, just curious what you guys think.