delay box

[camarotale]

looking to buy a delay box and some say cross over and cross talk.
what is the difference

[dparker]

On crossover, if your opponent is slower his top light will come on first and so on for the rest of the amber bulbs. On Crosstalk both top lights come on at the same time, then when its time the other amber come on just as the crossover mode. Now racing crossover mode and your the faster car, after you put in both dial-ins. You would have to look at you opponents top light on his side of the tree. If you running atrack with crosstalk mode and you where the faster car, after you put in both dial-ins, You would leave off your top bulb on your side of the tree. If your buying a delay box get the one with crosstalk it will work with both, and since most tracks are going to crosstalk mode. I like the Pro cube the best, but they're all pretty good anymore.

[camarotale]

thanks much, even the tech at jegs said they are the same, but I asked why they list them seperate, he didnt know , what you say makes sense to me thanks again, Eric

[Tod74]

I just learned something.

[sc4405]

My Dedenbear CC-3 does all the things mentioned above, you can change from Pro tree setting to bracket (full) tree setting with one button, and it has crossover compensation to take some time out of your delay (usually .015) for leaving off your opposnent's bulb. Most of the better boxes have all these features - of course only the Dedenbear will run the electric dial-in board without a seperate controller. 8) JB

[dparker]

Yeh but you have to have a 26" cage to have a dash wide enough to mount the CC3. lol. No my favorite delay box was a CC3 when I had a doorcar. There's just no way I can get one in my dash of my dragster.

[RonOwensRacing]

I sell the K&R pro cube and have used them for the last 8 years and iv tried a lot of the boxes and i like the pro cube better than anything out there and the new Z-Force box in killer that is a nice option.

[3dracing]

I use a Dedenbear Lightning in my daughters dragster and it does everything including the dial board driver. If your track has cross-talk you don't need the cross comp but it isin there for non cross-talk tracks. The Lightning is a lot smaller than a Command Center where space is an issue.

[dparker]

I agree 3dracing, but it your a faster car and are having to put in slower cars numbers the lightning does have a key board, which means you have to scroll. If your raced a 12.00 second car then had to run a 8.50 car it takes a while to scoll that far, not only that but the scoll numbers start to fly when you changing that much. The lightning has is good points, but I wouldn't run it if your going to be the faster car more often than not. IMO the simpler the better.

[hammertime]

Most tracks here that had crosstalk have sense went away from it and the ones that do I still hit the other side of the tree just like I would crossover. :D

[dparker]

The tracks going to crosstalk is one reason I went to a 7 second dragster. That would be about right that they would go back to crossover. I think crosstalk gives an advantage to the faster car. I think crossover mode is much more fair.

[hammertime]

The tracks going to crosstalk is one reason I went to a 7 second dragster. That would be about right that they would go back to crossover. I think crosstalk gives an advantage to the faster car. I think crossover mode is much more fair.

I am suprised they took it away from atleast 3 local tracks for me, but to many slower guys also thought it was a advantage for the fast car. To me dont matter either way is about the same.

[dparker]

The tracks going to crosstalk is one reason I went to a 7 second dragster. That would be about right that they would go back to crossover. I think crosstalk gives an advantage to the faster car. I think crossover mode is much more fair.

I am suprised they took it away from atleast 3 local tracks for me, but to many slower guys also thought it was a advantage for the fast car. To me dont matter either way is about the same.

For a real good racer it probably isn't but for a weaker racer in a fast car it gives them alot less chance to get anse when the other car leaves. Making them take there finger off the button 2 soon or to late. Clean tree much better.
I think its an advantage to leave first with the slower because you have a clean tree on crossover mode. BUT if both go red the slower car loses because he went red first, kinda evens everything up.JMO

[outlaw256]

i know you guys are pros,but maybe you will still understand this.this is exactly why i got out of racing at pro levels. i miss the 4 speed, one eye on the tach the other on the track kinda racing. no electronics invovled. i do like ignition boxs and electeonic ignitions bit thats it for me. i now prefere the nostalga racing. when the driver and his car won races. the talent you boys have is incredeble but i think its still more like traditional drag racing., when its ol skool cars and heads up racing.drag racing has been takin to heights and speeds never dreamed of 20 yrs ago.but at what costs.it ( to me)became faster but not near as much fun.i know all things change but not always for the better. hell im just gettin old and missin the old days.my wife and i took a trip down memory lane the other day. took my son and his girlfriend with us. they all come back. i wanted to stay but they wouldnt let me.goodluck this season to all of you, but im goin to look for gasser reunions this season.

[dparker]

I definately see where your coming from outlaw. Me and a good buddy of mine are partnering in building a southwest super charger right now. Its a 477 with a Littlefield 1471 Hi-helix blower, pontiac big chief heads, Donavon aluminum block. NO ELECTRONICS.
But I like the challenge of the electronics also, maybe the generation of computers being upon us helps. You know to me outlaw fast is fast and both give me a woody. I just want to be on top, even if it is just in my little world. Its killing me that this last week I got out run by the same guy that took over the points lead from me.
I guess everybody looks and races differently, that's what makes it such a great sport. Any chance you want to make the first pass in this blown dragster? It doesn't have any electronics, like you said. lol.
take care outlaw