Ultra Tech Race Engines (thumbs down)

[hammertime]

Hello All,

This off season I decided to try and go a cheaper route and have a buddy put my stuff together and use a local machine shop. The machine/motor shop was Ultra Tech Race Engines only because the buddy helping uses him only. I didnt care for this shop from a past deal and said I wouldnt use him again, after a lot of thought I went ahead and used them.

Had several things done that I knew were going to be needed, valve job, bore, hone, new pistons, new rods, re-balance. After getting the motor done we fired it up and had a few issues (heli-coil pulled out of a rocker stand mount) so I had to pull the heads off and decided to just get inserts put in it. A quick call to Nyes Automotive and my motor was down there a few days later, yesterday I find out the damages.

1. Seats are cut way to far, heads need new seats
2. Pistons are out of the bore 6 thousands
3. Pistons have 8.5 thousands pistons to wall (spec 6 thousands)

I informed my buddy of these issues, he called Ultra Tech and Ultra calls and leaves me a 5 minute voicemail of how this so called motor shop fixing them is clueless because he didnt touch the seats ( ok if not how come lash caps were fine last year and wont even come close this year), he also had no idea why the pistons were out of the bore they should of been .005 in the bore, just a LONG list of defensive remarks and added a few smart remarks in there about Nyes and myself. I attempted to call him back SEVERAL times with no answer. I paid him upwards of $3000.00 to do all the work and parts, and now get to pay another $1500.00 to fix his work.

SO my fellow racers STAY AWAY FROM THIS GUY

and THANKS A TON TO Nyes Automotive for offering to fix the mess and not questioning why I didnt bring there again over the winter. They will have it fixed and ready for me to pick up by the weekend so I can hopefully race.

[BEAST477]

Sorry to hear about the mishap David. Glad to hear Nye's is taking care of you. Is the honeymoon still going on? :wink:

[hammertime]

Sorry to hear about the mishap David. Glad to hear Nye's is taking care of you. Is the honeymoon still going on? :wink:

Nyes sure has stepped up to help me out once again, anyone looking for a freshen up, parts, short block or complete engine should give Nyes a look.


Got back saturday afternoon, nice week vacation did a lot of stuff seen a ton of nice cars down there. You race last weekend ? watching the weather for this weekend 80 degrees sure hope I get it all done and ready :D

[BEAST477]

Nope didn't make it last weekend had honeydo's to get done. I'm going to be there this weekend. I'll look you up.

[bigray]

this is great news to here about Nyes.we are just about ready to order a 540 pump gas motor from them.and i think this just sealed the deal..

[txhunter69]

does anyone know if they have a web site or can you give me a phone # im needin some parts

[wvhippie]

does anyone know if they have a web site or can you give me a phone # im needin some partsThey have a web site just put in Nyes automotive in a search engine and it should point you in the right direction.

[fla1976]

http://www.nyesautomotive.net/

[hammertime]

this is great news to here about Nyes.we are just about ready to order a 540 pump gas motor from them.and i think this just sealed the deal..

tell him David Lanning sent ya .. you wont be sorry he has been good to me and reminded me why ya go back to someone like that and not try to save a few bucks.

[zipper06]

David i do feel for you, and a lot of other racers out there that cannot check what they are getting back from the machine shop. I personally assembly every engine that i build, an i am amased at what the machine shops try to pass on to the customers. Now i know that most engines will perform well from the reputitably builders, but trust me you are not usuaslly getting what you were promised or what the tolerance were supposed to be. With todays compitition, a lot of the builders are just throwing them together, and hope they live a few passes, and then you own it, no warentee, (race Motor)
Zip.

[RonOwensRacing]

Sorry to hear that Dave and glad that you got it taken care of.
A Little story on how we met.
Yep Zip i have been using the same machinist for 30 years had a few before him a friend of mine brought him over to my garage after i blew up two engines in 21 passes and the builders wouldn't help me out well both of them is out of business now and have been for a few years .
to make a long story short my friend brought him over to look at the engine it was destroyed i thought it was a 401 AMC that i was racing back in 1978 anyway he looked at it and said i can fix it the other shops told me to throw it away there was nothing they could do with it.
Well i let him take it with him two weeks later he brought it back to the garage complete ready to go in not only that he said lets put this thing and fire it up i couldn't believe it didn't say a word on how much i owed him we put it in and fired this thing up the next day we go to the track test and tune not only did he fix it i ran over a half second faster back then 4 speed car with the amc engine and ran 10.30 witch was pretty strong back then.
Well i still use him today and he is my best friend now Oh and the price tag on fixing the engine 720.00.

[BEAST477]

That's great to hear Ron. You can't put a price on service like that.

[kbartley]

I dont usally have anything to say about another mans work but I agree w/ you zip. Ive built my little 1500sq. shop on word of mouth because of situations like these. Seems thats all I ever get done sometimes is fix the other guys mistake's. Example: Sunday I was helping a friend of mine who doesn't get to race much these days w/ his car. When we got to the track a friend of his came up to him and told him that he was having a problem w/ his ford 347ci losong oil press. & that the engine was fresh out of the same shop for the 3rd time. Anyway, he pulled it out & brought it to me and I got it straightened out and fired it up on the test stand for them, they took it home last night. I told them that all I did was fix the problem & not necessarily make anymore power. So we will see Friday during test/tune what the other guy did as far as building more power, I know its got good oil press. NOW. Kris

[bjuice]

don't feel too bad David..i think anyone that has been around this racing stuff for any amount of time has been burn't by a so called Engine builder and/or chassis Builders..

sad to say but Most people DO NOT learn anything unless it cost them something....only difference is it cost some people more than others..Fast learners VS. slow learners....lol :D

i personally think the extra $1500 you just spent just earned you a Masters degree in life..... 8)

[kbartley]

Earlier in this post I mentioned a 347ci ford I had to fix. The guy ran it that same week on friday test/tune. pressure is still fine. Went a 6.79, 6.84, 6.80. Put 150 shot nitrous ran 6.23 was the best. I guess thats not bad for a maverick w/ 10" tires. Of coarse the other guy gets the credit. Since all of this the driver has bought the car from the owner and has me building him a Windsor now. Its good to be selective but I cant work on just one name this day. Like all three.

Kris

[kod99]

Sorry to hear about your bad experiences with the engine builder, David. It sounds like a bad way to start the race year and, I'm sure falling off the ladder didn't help either. Hope your healing up OK.