Fram oil filter

[JimmySmith]

Ok guys ,some personel experience , new motor 305 sprint car new motor cranked and run 20 minutes, change oil and filter ,filter clean out of filters so owner goes to parts store and buys FRAM we go to track car runs good second in heat, loose oil press, cut filter open and it is collasped like you would squeeze it in your hand not good . I DO NOT USE a fram but this is owners call and it bit us. Later J.Smith 4621racing The Sledgehammer :cry:

[Tod74]

I don't use them because of stories like these...but I used to. Never had a failure maybe I was just lucky...wow. With so many stories like this you would think they would rethink things at FRAM.

[DMotorsports8]

MY OLD ENGINE BUILDER SAID NEVER USE A FRAM FILTER ON A RACE ENGINE. THE FILTER WON'T HANDLE THE PRESURE..... HE SWARES BY MOBILE ONE OR A NAPA RACING FILTER FOR ALL HIS DIRT RACE ENGINES, AND WE NEVER HAVE A FAILURE WITH HIS OIL OR FILTERS....

[MEMRACING62]

FRAM = FRIED RODS AND MAINS :!: :!:

[purplemonte]

Ive heard the same thing, Ive switched both of my cars to baldwin filters

[tcarda]

I have never used them either because of stories like this too. :!:
Has anyone used or use the K&N oil filters?

JimmySmith, how is the motor in the car or did it do any damage?

[JimmySmith]

motor has some damage, metal in filter , They will pull it out and we will find out how much damage, Later J.Smith 4621 racing

[ashbros]

I have never heard of anything like this. Really makes to stop and wonder sometimes, HUH?

Thanks for the info.

[fatjodycat]

i have a friend that blew a motor after he changed his oil at the track and put a fram filter on.His said his oil pressure was low low at the end of the track. A local engine builder came by after he blew the motor and told him his pressure drop near the end of the track was from the fram filter. I had a fram on my motor and noticed the drop in oil pressure also at the top end. I changed it and had oil pressure again. I wont run a fram on a race motor again.

[russ67chevelle]

wix on street and they have a racing filter for high rpms,it filters abit less my motor builder told me, but thats what they push.also alot of people at the track with blown or nitrous motors use brad penn oil.its supposed to be awesome on keeping slippery when contaminated from fuel

[kwkracing]

Is it a racing fram filter? Designed for high oil pressure?

I think motors tear up and destroy filters

[THERATTLER]

I had a fram on a sbc with the bypass plugged in a dragster , made 2 passes on fresh oil and filter , lost pressure while on return road :( , shut it off and pulled it back to truck , I thought the worst and a friend of mine said to check the filter , we did and it was collapsed. :shock: ..borrowed a wix from another racer and fired it back up , full pressure , have been useing wix or napa (same filter) ever since with never a problem , :D

[cepx111]

OH boy more aweful stories abou t fram oil filters killing motors.

I thought ever one knew they were motor killers by now.
Maybe we need a sticky on this one.


*BEWARE!!!!! DO NOT USE A FRAM OIL FILTER ON YOUR MOTOR*

[JEFF69Z28]

WHAT ABOUT AC DELCO FILTERS?

[Scooterz]

I have never used them either because of stories like this too. :!:
Has anyone used or use the K&N oil filters?

JimmySmith, how is the motor in the car or did it do any damage?

Tcarda: I use the K&N (HP3100? I think). anyways, last 2 oil changes have been fine & I use a single remote system. Good Luck. Scooter

[hammertime]

purlator pure ones .. best I've used so far. cut them open you'll be able to tell whats the best

[jmarksdragster]

Here is some reading on filters.

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/reference.html
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/opinions.html

[MEMRACING62]

2006 CHEVY TRAILBLAZER ENGINE ALMOST TAKEN OUT BY BAD PENNZOIL FILTER. STOCK ENGINE , 5W 30 OIL . ABOUT 2000 MILES INTO OIL CHANGE. FRAM MAKES PENNZOIL FILTERS.

[PacoMorales]

I run Fram filter on an Aluminum sprint car SBC. BUT filter is HP4 ir HP1 Fram filter would'nt think of puting a stock filter on as I have 80 lbs pressure. never any bad luck with those.

[newjack42]

a guy i work with lost a mild 427 in his street car to a fram. roded on her a bit filter collapesed and he didnt notice the press. drop and torched the motor. nothing but wix in the truck and wix racing filter in the dirt mod. never had a problem.

[TheYellaBrick]

Here is some reading on filters.

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/reference.html
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/opinions.html

EXCELLANT article !!

Direct from that article;

Fram Extra Guard

Years ago Fram was a quality filter manufacturer. Now their standard filter (the radioactive-orange cans) is one of the worst out there. It features cardboard end caps for the filter element that are glued in place. The rubber anti-drainback valve seals against the cardboard and frequently leaks, causing dirty oil to drain back into the pan. The bypass valves are plastic and are sometimes not molded correctly, which allows them to leak all the time. The stamped-metal threaded end is weakly constructed and it has smaller and fewer oil inlet holes, which may restrict flow. I had one of these filters fail in my previous car. The filter element collapsed and bits of filter and glue were circulating through my system. The oil passage to the head became blocked and the head got so hot from oil starvation that it actually melted the vacuum lines connected to it as well as the wires near it.

Fram Double Guard

Another bad filter idea brought to you by your friends at Fram. The filter itself is a slightly improved design over the Fram Extra Guard, but still uses the same filter element. It has a silicone anti-drainback valve, a quality pressure relief valve, and enough inlet holes for good flow. The big problem is that they are trying to cash in on the Slick 50 craze. They impregnate the filter element with bits of Teflon like that found in Slick 50. As with Slick 50, Teflon is a solid and does not belong in an engine. It cannot get into the parts of the engine that oil can and therefore does nothing. Also, as the filter gets dirty, it ends up filtering the Teflon right out. DuPont (the manufacturer of Teflon) does not recommend Teflon for use in internal combustion engines. Please do not waste your money on this filter.

Fram High Mileage

Yet another bad filter idea brought to you by your friends at Fram! Gotta love these guys. It's a Fram Extra Guard with a weird goo cartridge suspended on the clean side of the filter, blocking the outlet. It's supposed to be some kind of additive package, but if you want a high mileage oil, buy a high mileage oil. I don't trust these guys...sorry.

Pennzoil

This filter is a Fram. It is the exact same design as the Fram Extra Guard filter and it is junk. On the up side, it costs $1 less than the Fram version.

Quaker State

This is another Fram Extra Guard that I have seen at K-mart. It used to be a Purolator, but Quaker State is now owned/controlled by Pennzoil...

[Scooterz]

Oh Boy.... not good... another FRAM thread. Man, many bad stories in the archives here about FRAM... they are "SCHITT" as Double/d sights.

[TheRabbit]

Good article. I copied it and printed it so I can hang it in my shop and in my race trailer!!