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RAPPTOR23
03-28-2009, 04:31 PM
WHAT IS THE BEST ALUMINUM BIG BLOCK HEAD??BMF,PROFILER,BOW TIE,AIRFLOW.????? :lol:
shawnp
03-28-2009, 04:51 PM
I think it depends on what your application is. We are trying the Brodix 3xtra oval 365 on our new 582 for this year. I know that there have been good numbers on some 565's running the BMF 355 and Hammertime has BMF's on his 582 that is very impressive. We have also run Dart and Canfield heads which we have been pleased with both companies.
Tod74
03-28-2009, 11:12 PM
Call Curtis Boggs
hammertime
03-29-2009, 06:17 AM
The best conv head is the Brodix Head Hunter with moved valves, that head flat out rocks. There is other "good" heads such as the BMF, Dart's, RFD's.
Now if your talking 16/18 degree stuff, brodix head is the head you want, 12 degree a profiler, 11/14 degree a dart head.
obsessedtruck
03-29-2009, 12:58 PM
Cant argue about giving Curtis a call. He does some bad azz stuff. I got the Brodix 18* 1803s from him and maken killer power.
bjuice
03-29-2009, 01:04 PM
I think it depends on what your application is. We are trying the Brodix 3xtra oval 365 on our new 582 for this year. I know that there have been good numbers on some 565's running the BMF 355 and Hammertime has BMF's on his 582 that is very impressive. We have also run Dart and Canfield heads which we have been pleased with both companies.
Shawn i think your gonna be well pleased with those 3x ovals..Par uses these heads on his bracket 565ci engines and gets 1020 hp out of them...here is Vid of my cousins Nova with a 565ci with 3x ovals. his best so far is a 4.92et at 142 mph @ 3,000 lbs with 10 inch tires.....and seems to think there is a little more in it
the vid is a 4.97 pass
looks like he leaves soft but it still has a 1.17 60 ft and a 3.08 330ft
you will love those heads...in 2010 i will get those heads myself.
sorry not trying to hijack the thread..just really sold on those 3x ovals heads...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1VsPrnvuLY
Tod74
03-29-2009, 01:14 PM
That's a bitch'n NOVA...looks like a big tire car though...Does he use a wide wheel and stretch the small tire out like some guys do?
hammertime
03-29-2009, 01:22 PM
sorry not trying to hijack the thread..just really sold on those 3x ovals heads...
you and me both make sure you get the move valve ones, just seen a 565 go 1060hp with them.
bjuice
03-29-2009, 01:24 PM
yes he uses a wide wheel...its a 10.5 (W) M/T tire
we had a Big grudge race last weekend..was a lot of Chit talking going on two weeks prior..we took the Money last Sunday..the little 565ci conventional head took out a 615ci Big chief....it was a good race..
here is the Vid..notice how the T-bird screwed with him at the lights..
i am standing behind the Nova in the white T-shirt and hat with my arms folded...
this was the 4.92 pass...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRClH7hJxyo
bjuice
03-29-2009, 01:35 PM
sorry not trying to hijack the thread..just really sold on those 3x ovals heads...
you and me both make sure you get the move valve ones, just seen a 565 go 1060hp with them.
Hammer i believe those #'s...like i said Par gets 1020hp out of his bracket series 565ci with those heads with no other speacial work to the engine..(port work etc...)...
i can remember the days when it wa a BAD jOKE to even guess a 565ci could make that kind of power out of a conventional head...un-real !! :shock:
hammertime
03-29-2009, 03:31 PM
sorry not trying to hijack the thread..just really sold on those 3x ovals heads...
you and me both make sure you get the move valve ones, just seen a 565 go 1060hp with them.
Hammer i believe those #'s...like i said Par gets 1020hp out of his bracket series 565ci with those heads with no other speacial work to the engine..(port work etc...)...
i can remember the days when it wa a BAD jOKE to even guess a 565ci could make that kind of power out of a conventional head...un-real !! :shock:
before long a avg 565 will make 1000hp without anything special.. amazing what all these engine builders are doing now.
shawnp
03-29-2009, 03:41 PM
I am hoping you all are right on the heads since we just ordered a 2nd set for a 2nd 582 build. The 2nd motor is going to be a little different in cam choice and maybe rocker ratio. The motor that is in the car now is the 365 ovals with 1.75 T&Ds, brodix intake, 15:1 Diamond pistons, eagle crank and rod with the RM 420-117 cam shaft. Everyone is telling us that we should see 1050hp with this motor. I think Brodix is the head to go with in the bigger cubic inch motors hands down.
bjuice
03-29-2009, 04:39 PM
i say you will be all over that 1050 hp mark.
i have a 565ci 15:1 compression diamond piston's...the engine made 980hp...
now here is the kicker..its got a set of BB2 heads with 2.25's...and a 454r intake...now both head and intake have had a lot of work done to them..but none the less no-where near the 3x oval ports with the 2.35''s
PAR said i am about 60 hp low by using these heads and intake over the 3x heads....
The ONLY REASON and I MEAN ONLY..I went ahead and used these heads and intake i already had instead of spending the difference of the 3x set up is that Par told me these smaller heads would make more TQ on my 565ci and being that my car is 3300lbs with me in it i figured this could work in my favor running the 1/8th.
Next year and i am going with the 3x oval port and a sniper intake no matter what..along with a fogger....
hammertime
03-29-2009, 05:42 PM
I am hoping you all are right on the heads since we just ordered a 2nd set for a 2nd 582 build. The 2nd motor is going to be a little different in cam choice and maybe rocker ratio. The motor that is in the car now is the 365 ovals with 1.75 T&Ds, brodix intake, 15:1 Diamond pistons, eagle crank and rod with the RM 420-117 cam shaft. Everyone is telling us that we should see 1050hp with this motor. I think Brodix is the head to go with in the bigger cubic inch motors hands down.
Shawn what cam did ya go with on 2nd go around, the 420-116 ? I think 1025-1050 realy world power is where you will come in at, take it to a happy dyno you'll find closer to 1100. Which heads on the 2nd motor, I know we talked about the move valve location, and the 377 runner ? Havent seen ya yahoo in awhile my friend :D
shawnp
03-30-2009, 02:08 PM
Dave, my desk top is down and I don't know how to get logged on to messenger from the lap top. I hope to be back to my computer and give this thing back to my wife and kid.
On the 2nd build, the cam is yet to be determined but the heads will again be the 365 3xtra ovals.
Tod74
03-30-2009, 02:56 PM
Dave, my desk top is down and I don't know how to get logged on to messenger from the lap top. I hope to be back to my computer and give this thing back to my wife and kid.
On the 2nd build, the cam is yet to be determined but the heads will again be the 365 3xtra ovals.
go to your program list and click on yahoo messenger. :)
radicalz
04-03-2009, 01:51 PM
WHAT IS THE BEST ALUMINUM BIG BLOCK HEAD??BMF,PROFILER,BOW TIE,AIRFLOW.????? :lol:
Rappttor...talk to Curtis Boggs...man knows what he is doing..http://www.raceflowdevelopment.com....get his advise on the BBC heads I have Dart Pro 1's 325's work well