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I recently sold a used diesel inj pump on here to Riflemanusmc
I have never had any issues on here with either buiying or selling,now this guy is trying to say that what I sent him isnt what I said it was.He's saying its a 5.9l pump.I sold a used Inj pump for an 07 3500 ram with a 6.7l Cummins for 325.00 shipped.I proceded to tell him that there were no 5.9's in 2007 therefore he is incorrect. By the way, the pump is $5440.00 new from Mopar. and all this guy is doing is complaning.
Any Ideas out there.. boy what a hassle!! :?
hollowayshotrods
03-16-2009, 04:25 AM
Best thing to do is give the guy his money back, minus shipping both ways. The dollar amount involved is low, don't let the guy try and make you look bad over this. By offering the refund, the guy really has no basis for a complaint. Just my thoughts on the matter.
Later.
bigray
03-16-2009, 08:06 AM
YEP,,offer his money back.and split the shipping..then you look good.you did all you could do to make the buyer happy..
Tod74
03-16-2009, 08:53 AM
if you know you are right don't worry about it...
wlpatterson
03-16-2009, 11:00 AM
I would post the original ad on here & if its listed as you say & he bought it listed as such then you have no problem-You can retrieve the original ad even if you have to contact RJ-,,If its not posted as you stated then you would be better off to have him ship it back probably splitting the shipping-I (of course) would'nt send any money period until I recieved my parts in the same condition I shipped them in-This is just one persons opinion & everyone knows the saying about that?? LOL-
Well I offered to refund him less shipping if he ffirst sent me the pump(shipped on his dime) and its in the same condition as it was when I shipped it to him.(he seems like the type that would"accidentally" drop it a few times before it get shipped back to me.He has threatned to turn me into the police and post office for mail fraud :?: anyway the balls in his court now. I await his email. I will also be contacting the family attorney to see what my rights are if I recieve it damaged or destroyed. Just wanted to post an update!
WELL HERES THE EXACT REPLY I GOT TO MY EMAIL OFFERING HIM HIS MONEY BACK...
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Oh HELL NO....................This pump is NOT a 6.7 as you said it was....Now your wanting me to trust you????
By your poor packing the FCA is broken..Do you really think that I was born yesterday??? Listen up bub.. RET USMC Mst GNNY Sgt.
20 years worth Sir. You really have to be kidding yourself right now to think that I of all people are that damn dumb.
Im turning you over to YOUR local POLICE. As well as the USPO for mail fraud.. Is any of this sinking in???
There is all ready a thread started on the Diesel forums about this.. Who ever you screwed over in the past... Stops NOW..
You'll send me my money back NOW. $325.00 the same that I paid you. And your paying the shipping back because it only cost you $11.00 to ship. Tom I know times are hard... There are better ways of making money besides FUCKING over your fellow AMERICANS.
Any of this sinking in I hope?????????????????????
gungho
03-16-2009, 01:02 PM
OUCH!!!! :shock:
THERATTLER
03-16-2009, 01:10 PM
NO RETURN ,,,NO REFUND ,,WILL ANY BUSINESS GIVE YOU A REFUND BEFORE YOU RETURN THE ITEM BOUGHT :?: :?: I DON'T THINK SO,,,BUB
blowninjected540
03-16-2009, 01:21 PM
On top of it all its broken now to, If you advertised it correctly and truthfully he has to prove you wrong, This guy might NOT know what he is talking about, on the other hand read your ad againg to make sure you didn't make a mistake. Good Luck on this one.
Tod74
03-16-2009, 01:24 PM
He was a Marine? Oh well now THAT just changes everything. :roll:
bigray
03-16-2009, 01:47 PM
HuMMMMMMMMMM,,still no reply from the buyer.if the buyer broke it,its his baby now,if it got broke in shipment,take it up with the shipper,,and like others said.no returned part..no money back,,
now he is saying his wife is a big hotshot at a lawfirm in Mo. He keeps saying he wants his money back, but doesnt think he should have to return the part until after he gets it... I dont think thats right. The saga continues..
I will update as soon as he replies.
Tell him to kiss your A$$
bjuice
03-16-2009, 03:22 PM
Nothing against Marines..i luv those guys...But just beacuse you spent 20yrs as a Gunny in the USMC (ALONE) doesn't Qualify you as a bright Person ..sorry just the facts.
2nd..if he threatened and spoke to me the way he just did you ...screw him..he wouildn't get jack from me.
Now i am just going off what i have seen here on this post..
Scooterz
03-16-2009, 03:33 PM
He sounds like a jerk. Something stinks about this guy... maybe it is his ignorance.. I don't know. You gave him by all appearances a good deal. You then offered to send back his money. Captain America wants to raise hell still. I would not be bullied by this fool. Scooter
THERATTLER
03-16-2009, 03:33 PM
tell him if he went to any parts store and they sold him the wrong part , and he tried to get his money back without returning the part , they would laugh him out the door,, ANY STORE , ANYWHERE!
bigray
03-16-2009, 03:53 PM
its aslo kinda sounding like a.. utohh i bought a part and now its not what i needed..after i put it on my truck and found out its something else..and i broke it,and give me my money back and i will ship it back..and the way he is talking..to you.i would have to say,untill i see the pump show up at my door.i aint give ya nothing..
Scorpion1110
03-16-2009, 04:29 PM
As long as you did not misrepresent item; its Caveat Emptor-Let the Buyer Beware.
He can try and sue you in his state, but it may or may not work- Depends on whether they view you as a business and doing business in his state. Some do some dont.
If he sues you in your state show up and state your case. If you are being truthful as to what occured and what you posted and printed in ad, then youd be fine.
If he can actually sue you in his state, and then you dont defend, then he could get a default judgement, but its unlikely that he'd be able to transfer in your state- He might try but its iffy.
So I wouldnt do a thing except to tell him what I told a clown who tried to pull a similar stunt with me. Tell him:
*The item is as represented.
*No refunds.
*Because the item is as presented its not mail fraud.
*A fraudelant claim suggesting mail fraud to coerce a seller into returning funds could be in itself a type of extortion and fraud- You will notify *Federal Authorities of possible extortion and Fraud.
*You will travel to his state to defend and will countersue.
*You will sue him for expenses, legal fees and punitive damages
*You will report his wife to the local state Bar as being an accessory to an Internet Extortion scheme.
*You will notify his local authorities of his harassment and extortion scheme.
I say Game On and crush him-
Since hes a Marine he should understand "You kill one of ours, we'll take down two of yours" Hit him with everything you have and promise me one thing; When he begs off, make him say "Mercy"
Scorp
THERATTLER
03-16-2009, 04:55 PM
:shock: :shock: :shock: SCORP , YOU ARE THE MAN :D :D :D :D
Thanks Scorp! and everyone else that has chimed in.I just want rid of this J/O if ya know what I mean. we will see what happens.
blownalky3
03-16-2009, 05:53 PM
It is funny that AFTER you tell him you will refund the money he tells you it was broke due to poor packaging. It should have been the first thing he called about, especially if it was insured. I wont ship unless I insure it. Most treat packages like Jim Carray in Pet Detective, so you are bound to get a broken part or two. From reading his email it seems he wants the pump AND his money. Now that it is broke and he failed to tell you, I would assure him he owns it and to piss off
MEMRACING62
03-16-2009, 06:19 PM
X2 BIGRAY I HAVE SPENT HALF OF MY TIME DOING SERVICE STANDING AT PARTS COUNTERS. AND JUST ABOUT EVERYTIME I AM IN A PARTS HOUSE THERE IS ALWAYS SOME A-HOLE THERE SAYING PARTS WERE WRONG- BROKE - OR JUST WANT MONEY BACK BECAUSED THEY NEEDED PARTS TO TROUBLE SHOOT WITH. (AT YOUR EXPENSE) IF YOU GET PARTS BACK LOOK AT IT REAL GOOD!! ANOTHER TRICK PLAYED ALOT IS OPENING MOTORS, PUMPS, ETC, AND TAKING PARTS THEY NEED AND REASSEMBLE WITH THERE JUNK!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
Well, hes still threatning to turn me into the police and have me locked up over 325.00 pump that I have said numerous times I will refund him 100%, I just want the pump back first. It just seems like theres no end to his antics.I have copied every email I have sent to him,as well as kept all of his he has sent to me.I guess I will contact the police and post office today to see what my options are here. Thanks Guys!! I will keep you all updated.
blowninjected540
03-17-2009, 05:04 AM
Did you invite him to this form so we can hear his side of the story ? That has helped alot in the past.
I told him I posted it in the forum on here so yes he knows.
I Just got off the phone with a trooper from the Pa State Police.told him the situation and he said that he wouldnt send the money until he recieved the pump back as well.simple as that.
THERATTLER
03-17-2009, 05:57 AM
CALL THE POLICE IN HIS HOMETOWN AND SEE IF HAS A PAST OF TRYING TO EXTORT MONEY FROM PEOPLE , HE CAN BRING THE PUMP WITH HIM WHEN HE COMES TO YOUR TOWN TO SIGN PAPERS ON YOU.
Well, looks like he has decided to return the pump to me rather than "have me locked up" for mail fraud..(cant wat to see what this thing looks like when I get it back...
skauto
03-19-2009, 09:28 AM
I recently sold a used diesel inj pump on here to Riflemanusmc
.I proceded to tell him that there were no 5.9's in 2007 therefore he is incorrect. ! :?
Just a little input not suggesting anything other than the fact that there are a few 2007 dodge trucks that still came with the 5.9L as that was the change over year, I have physically seen 2 of them.Mabey different up here in the frozen north. Hope this helps , good luck. On Second thoughts why would anyone need to buy a used injection pump for a vehicle that should still be warranty?
Tod74
03-19-2009, 11:26 AM
Nothing against Marines..i luv those guys...But just beacuse you spent 20yrs as a Gunny in the USMC (ALONE) doesn't Qualify you as a bright Person ..sorry just the facts.
2nd..if he threatened and spoke to me the way he just did you ...screw him..he wouildn't get jack from me.
Now i am just going off what i have seen here on this post..
X2!!
And if I was 100% certain that the pump was what I described in the ad, I wouldn't give him a dime no mater How polite he was.....emphasis IF I WAS 100% sure I hadn't made a mistake in the description.
Gimmethakick
03-22-2009, 05:03 PM
I have an 07 Dodge Ram 3500 and it has the 5.9 liter Cummins. Just thought I'd let you know for future reference.
Harbone
03-23-2009, 10:50 AM
I am the parts director at a dodge dealer. Do you have the last 9 digits of the VIN from the truck the pump came from or a part number off the pump itself? I can tell you exactly what you have if you can get me that information. skauto is right, in 2007 that truck came with both the 5.9l and the 6.7l diesel motor.
lotsof454sss
03-23-2009, 01:01 PM
You sound like a man's man to me.....Your the one that has to sleep at night so do what you think is right.....All these fellows are telling it the way they see it and I think you agree with them soooooo...NO PART = NO MONEY and I gotta wonder about a guy that says it was broken after he asks for his money back also....
If you join at 18 and serve 20 then you gotta be nearly 40 so sounds like he's got his hat screwed on backwards if he knows no better that he acts....and the Popeye threat is just that....So now Gunny "Where's me spinach time for ya"?
bjuice
03-23-2009, 02:55 PM
You sound like a man's man to me.....Your the one that has to sleep at night so do what you think is right.....All these fellows are telling it the way they see it and I think you agree with them soooooo...NO PART = NO MONEY and I gotta wonder about a guy that says it was broken after he asks for his money back also....
If you join at 18 and serve 20 then you gotta be nearly 40 so sounds like he's got his hat screwed on backwards if he knows no better that he acts....and the Popeye threat is just that....So now Gunny "Where's me spinach time for ya"?
lmao. :D ..HE's ( Perry) Back !