I HAVE BEEN HAD BY A THEIF

[RS69RACE]

I Hope sox ( 160692 )you are happy with my money .I purchased item # 1474903 from him on 3/7/09 . As add states good motor at a great price . Was told he purchased motor from a racer down on his luck and needed cash . So he bought motor to help him out but needed to sell now . As add states it's suppose to have low runs ,comp cam, and such a good running motor that I would be supprised and really happy with it . Well not even 24 hours later after pan was removed to check everything found lobe on cam wiped , motor needs cam bearings , needs rod and main bearings . Cam shaft isn't a comp cams have no idea what it is the only # are 241787 ? tried everything I know can't be found .For a motor that has so few runs it shouldn't need anything . Hank was contacted within 24 hours and told of these problems and more or less told me if I add up all the parts ,I got what I paid for . HUH!!! I didn't answer an add to buy a bunch of parts I laid down green money for a running motor . Tried to give him the benefit of the dought, and to be a man about it . But was told sorry for your luck . His words were what would you like me to do ?I know this isn't the way most racers do each other ,this is a first for me and I won't soon forget it . So looks like I will be sitting out this year again THANKS HANK COLEMAN .

[Scooterz]

I cheked out the ad. It does look like a great deal with fresh Chevy Orange paint & over-spray on the intake indicates a quick paint job. So the way I understand this is you got a basically stock SBC with chrome valve covers & a intake w/a decent carb for 2000.00? He was pretty specific aboput the internals too... such as the KB pistons, cam, former alky & gas Et's... etc... i think it is too conveinent for him (Sox) to say he got it from someone else so he could claim ignorance & make his problem yours & pick up some cash along the way. It is too bad, gives us all a bad name when these people rip off others & give LAME stories about "how they did not know" or how it was someone elses & they never took it apart or ran it. I sympathize with you... but here you will probably will hear things like: see it first in person, take off the pan before you buy, if it looks too good to be true then it is, etc... I persoanlly think amoungst each other we should be able to stand behind our word, but that is false with some of these scammers. Again, I am sorry you got a raw deal. Scooter

[ashbros]

I am with you rigsby, that quality paint job stands out like a sore thumb, but regardless, It ain't right.

[DOORSLAMIN]

well we went through the same thing with a motor....damn scumbags.

[Scorpion1110]

I Hope sox ( 160692 )you are happy with my money .I purchased item # 1474903 from him on 3/7/09 . As add states good motor at a great price . Was told he purchased motor from a racer down on his luck and needed cash . So he bought motor to help him out but needed to sell now . As add states it's suppose to have low runs ,comp cam, and such a good running motor that I would be supprised and really happy with it . Well not even 24 hours later after pan was removed to check everything found lobe on cam wiped , motor needs cam bearings , needs rod and main bearings . Cam shaft isn't a comp cams have no idea what it is the only # are 241787 ? tried everything I know can't be found .For a motor that has so few runs it shouldn't need anything . Hank was contacted within 24 hours and told of these problems and more or less told me if I add up all the parts ,I got what I paid for . HUH!!! I didn't answer an add to buy a bunch of parts I laid down green money for a running motor . Tried to give him the benefit of the dought, and to be a man about it . But was told sorry for your luck . His words were what would you like me to do ?I know this isn't the way most racers do each other ,this is a first for me and I won't soon forget it . So looks like I will be sitting out this year again THANKS HANK COLEMAN .

Every motor I have ever sold or car with a fresh motor has the receipts with it; of course that really doesnt matter with this issue. And you can look at prior threads to see how this plays out. Check the Carl Reed thread for example.

You are going to need to print out everything, copies of the ad, communications anything you can and then start going through all the legal channels to try and recover. And the seller is expecting you wont waste your time. This forum is a good place to start.

Might I make a recommendation to the over the Web engine buyers, dealing with private sellers- I would recommend that you get an engine certification when you buy (what it is and what it has). Make up a statement in Word on your computer and send it to the seller to sign and certify and have their signature notarized. Get it back, sign it and have your signature certified. No gaurantees but I think when you end up in court (and theres a 50/50 chance you might) it will be mighty damining to the seller. By the way if they wont give it to you what do you think thats telling you?

Of course you can also avoid the to good to be true engine deals, save your pennies and get a motor from a reputable local builder.

Scorp

[Tod74]

I Hope sox ( 160692 )you are happy with my money .I purchased item # 1474903 from him on 3/7/09 . As add states good motor at a great price . Was told he purchased motor from a racer down on his luck and needed cash . So he bought motor to help him out but needed to sell now . As add states it's suppose to have low runs ,comp cam, and such a good running motor that I would be supprised and really happy with it . Well not even 24 hours later after pan was removed to check everything found lobe on cam wiped , motor needs cam bearings , needs rod and main bearings . Cam shaft isn't a comp cams have no idea what it is the only # are 241787 ? tried everything I know can't be found .For a motor that has so few runs it shouldn't need anything . Hank was contacted within 24 hours and told of these problems and more or less told me if I add up all the parts ,I got what I paid for . HUH!!! I didn't answer an add to buy a bunch of parts I laid down green money for a running motor . Tried to give him the benefit of the dought, and to be a man about it . But was told sorry for your luck . His words were what would you like me to do ?I know this isn't the way most racers do each other ,this is a first for me and I won't soon forget it . So looks like I will be sitting out this year again THANKS HANK COLEMAN .

I want to know where you got your time machine ...cause that's 'bout the only way I can think of that you bought the thing this Saturday and then tore it down this Sunday..and then contacted him next Monday...lol :lol:

sorry just kid'n ..I hope you get it worked out...hopefully he will get on here and tell his side of it...cause it sure sounds like he screwed ya...thanks for the warning and sorry it happened to you.

[Tod74]

I just checked out the ad and like Rigsby said, he was very specific with parts list.It makes NO DIFFERENCE that he got it from someone else.If he wasn't sure of what was in it then he shouldn't have let on like he did..just because he got screwed doesn't give him the right to pass on the favor. I am gona send him a message telling him how bad this looks and hopefully he will chime in.


EDIT: MESSAGE SENT. Let's see if he will answer.

[RS69RACE]

I saw the rattle can overhaul but it's only paint . Didn't buy it because it looked nice, bought it for what it was suppose to be . The thing I can't get over is for something that is suppose to have (LOW RUNS ) as stated in his ad it needs every bearing inside and the cam is wiped . Don't know if the crank can be saved it's already 20 under and doesn't look good . I removed the valve covers and everything looked ok at the timeof purchase, nothing loose or out of place . I should have taken some good advice that was given here and had him crack the pan and I would have seen the cam right off . But he said the pan was full of oil and not to worry . He had seen this motor run at at the track . I knew it had stock crank and rods and but wasn't expecting all the other stuff . Last I talked to him I tried at least trying to get him to pony up for the bearings and even that fell on deaf ears .

[Tod74]

I saw the rattle can overhaul but it's only paint . Didn't buy it because it looked nice, bought it for what it was suppose to be . The thing I can't get over is for something that is suppose to have (LOW RUNS ) as stated in his ad it needs every bearing inside and the cam is wiped . Don't know if the crank can be saved it's already 20 under and doesn't look good . I removed the valve covers and everything looked ok at the timeof purchase, nothing loose or out of place . I should have taken some good advice that was given here and had him crack the pan and I would have seen the cam right off . But he said the pan was full of oil and not to worry . He had seen this motor run at at the track . I knew it had stock crank and rods and but wasn't expecting all the other stuff . Last I talked to him I tried at least trying to get him to pony up for the bearings and even that fell on deaf ears .

I would think that since he was so specific in his ad that you would have a pretty good case in court...I know there is no proof that is the engine he sold you but if you had witnesses that were there when you tore it down...?? iduno but in the future your best bet is to only deal with sellers that have made honor payments and such...that don't mean they won't screw ya but it says a little something about how honest they are in my opinion.

[RS69RACE]

Another one of lifes leasons learned . And by the way I did have someone with me to pick it up and the same person was there when I found what I found . As far as hearing his side, I don't think he has the nads to own up to the crowd on here let alone talk to me again . He has a habit of loosing phone numbers especially mine . I just thank everybody for their input in this matter and just maybe someone he knows will see this . I know he races at cecil county and his car name is showtime .

[Scooterz]

RS69-

Man, I sure am sorry about your deal, but Scorpion is right... maybe you can recover from this mess by taking action. I am not the best at knowing how to go about it, but people here like Scorp do know. I hate to see you give up or let this guy get away with his actions. I mentioned the specifics about the internals because I think that alone combined w/ your witness carries some weight. He lied... he should be held responsible for that or claiming ignorance... either way. At any rate, I hope you see some justice for his actions. Good Luck! Scooter

[RS69RACE]

I would like nothing more than to sue this crook but it takes money to do that , which I am not flush on right now.Because of the economic times . I still am looking into some things , don't know if it will work but I've gotta try .

[Tod74]

I would like nothing more than to sue this crook but it takes money to do that , which I am not flush on right now.Because of the economic times . I still am looking into some things , don't know if it will work but I've gotta try .

I'd call him nonstop

[ashbros]

i would make a house call, confront him in the upmost professional manner. Let him know you are dead serious about this issue.

i would not back down, gonna stand my ground

file a police report press charges

[Sox]

Here is my side.I bought the motor from a guy I know and everything he told me I passed on to him.He called me and I told Im sorry for what happened.I did not lie about the motor.The guy I bought it from told me it was running a month ago,so I believed him.The guy that bought the motor from me called me and he said to make it right that I should buy him rod and main bearings and I agreed.I just got out of the hospital right now and logged on to see me getting bashed.I will buy him new bearings that we agreed on and he said that will be fine.I have bought and sold things on here and never had a problem other than a carb issue that was taken care of.Everyone is tearing me a new ass but I dont if the guy is being truthfull about the motor.Like I said we agreed on the bearings and I will stand by my word.You can bet this will be the last time I ever buy a motor from someone.I forgot to add that I offered him a spare cam and lifters to help him out. The way I see it he is not telling the whole story.Finally the reason for not responding quickly to the trashing is I was admitted to the hospital Tuesday and just got out today.

[Sox]

RS69 Race give me your adress so I can send the bearings to you.Better yet you can call me instead of trashing me on here.

[Scooterz]

Sox:

I am sure that your post is appreciated in a few ways... but we are all responsible for how we represent ouselves... a man's word should be GOLD. You specified the internals of that motor individually. If they are not EXACTLY what you said, it is your resposibility... not the buyers. The buyer is only resposible for letting someone misslead him. Excuses about buying it from someone else, dubious condition, wrong parts, being gone, etc... is all your responsibility.. not his. As far as you not knowing if the buyer is "telling the truth"... well, he came on here & stated his claim many times about this issue. I find it hard to believe that you are an innocent victim who did not know the buyer was upset on this thread, or never tried to calll you first to make this right. If he (the buyer) had called & you agreed to give him bearings in the first place, it is also hard to believe this thread would have gone this far. Just so you know, this is not the first time we have seen a motor deal gone bad... it seems that the sellers are always pleading ignorance, gone in the hospital, out of state, etc... before they come on here & defend thier actions. Forgive me, but some of us are a little too familiar with these resposes... if i am wrong, i am sorry. Scooter

[Sox]

First off I never said I was a victim.The only thing that was misleading was the cam.I offerd him another one plus we agreed on me buying bearing and like I said I was in the hospital till today.I log on and what a suprise.I never mislead him and told him exactly what the other guy said.I just tried to call him and got no answer.He never asked for his money back.I dont know if he is telling the truth about the motor or what.I can tell you I learned a lesson and like I stated I will never get involved in something like this again.You can call me alot of things but a thief Im not.Dont you think maybe this is a reverse scam him trying to get something from me by trashing me on here and not being truthful about the motor.This guy is 3 hrs away from me so who knows what his motives are.Like I said we agreed on bearings to be bought by me and that should have been the end of it.

[RS69RACE]

Sorry to hear you had to go to the hospital ,but how was I suppose to know? You told me you would have to get back to me on the bearing offer ,never did. All it would have taken was a quick message informing me you had to go to the hospital unexpectedly. So what was I suppose to think? It will be a week tommorow. As for the cam it's like a 572. lift cam I really think it's a little much for a stock bottom end 355, we both agreed on that fact. As I told you I can take pictures of the items in question if you wish, and I still stand behind my bearing deal. I am a man of my word. Get in touch with me about the bearings please. Just try to put yourself in my posistion, I thought I was buying a running motor not a pile of parts that need some work. I trusted you and took you for your word. I'm not looking for something for nothing, just what was supposed to be in the first place. Look forward to hearing from you, and again I hope you're feeling better.

[Harbone]

man, I am almost in tears :cry:
its been awhile since we have actually has someone work out their problems on here. thats nice guys! :)

[Sox]

I called and left a message and e-mailed you for you to give me your address.As soon as I get it Ill call Jegs right away.If I had known about the motor I would have not sold it.Lesson learned by both of us.As for getting in touch with you I was not really in a position to contact you from the hospital I was under alot of meds.As soon as I got home today thats when I got on here and started damage control.As far as Im concerned this is a dead issue.

[RS69RACE]

Ok , got your e-mail, you have the address , now send the bearings and we are good . As far as no answer on the phone ,cell never rang ,business phone never rang and the home phone has an answer machine . One last thing about me trying to get over on you ,I am not that way, never have been, never will be . And it doesn't matter if I live 2 hrs. away or 30 hrs. away . You knew about the issues as soon as I found out . I'm just glad I didn't put it right in my truck . Anyway hope you are doing better and I look forward to getting the bearings so I can continue on .

[Sox]

Calling Jegs right now.Lets put it to rest.This forum is like Peyton Place.Everybody so quick to Judge..

[Scooterz]

1st quote buyer:
"Tried to give him the benefit of the dought, and to be a man about it . But was told sorry for your luck . His words were what would you like me to do ?I know this isn't the way most racers do each other.

2nd quote seller:
"You can bet this will be the last time I ever buy a motor from someone.I forgot to add that I offered him a spare cam and lifters to help him out. The way I see it he is not telling the whole story.

3rd quote buyer:
"Last I talked to him I tried at least trying to get him to pony up for the bearings and even that fell on deaf ears ."

4th quote seller:
"The guy that bought the motor from me called me and he said to make it right that I should buy him rod and main bearings and I agreed."

Is nice to see you work it out. I learned something too... we should all be ACCOUNTABLE for what we say (in writing publicly) because some people actually remember what others say & can quote you... so in the end, we agree to disagree because someone is not telling the whole truth. Scooter

[kw89425]

well i have read this thread and i saw sox add about never selling a motor on rj again. all i can say is it sounds to me like sox knew what he was selling wasnt what it should have been. now befor you get all fired up sox in my eyes if you bought it the way it was and took some one elses word for what it was you sure didnt seem very upset about being lied to. you seem to be upset for other reasons. maybe you didnt know that you had been screwed. anybody buying a built motor should remove the oil pan and see what they are getting and anybody selling a motor as a built motor that is intent on being an honest seller would check befor selling as such. posting an add saying youve learned a leason youll never sell another motor on rj doesnt help you look innocent in my eyes. really its none of my buisness either way. i just get tired of the lame excuses i see on the scammers. truth is if you sell it you should know exactly without any doubt what it is or you should advertise it as i know nothing about it.

[Scooterz]

Calling Jegs right now.Lets put it to rest.This forum is like Peyton Place.Everybody so quick to Judge..

"So quick to judge"... we can only comment our opinions based on WHAT YOU & THE BUYER SAY??? This is your mess... not ours. Scooter

[Harbone]

exactly what scooter said!
I to got ripped by a guy on a car trade, the supposed engine had 12:1 pistons, scat crank, roller cam, roller rockers. Got the car home and took off the intake and what did I get? stock crank, 10:1 flat tops, hyd cam, etc. Called the guy and got the same excuse "thats what I was told was in the motor from the guy I got it from" The only difference between you and him, he never called me back, never made up the difference, never answered my emails and did not reply back to me until 4 months later and then told me to suck his you know what.
I was commending you on stepping up to the plate, we don't see that on here to often when people get screwed over...

[Sox]

Put it to rest guys.I stepped up and made things right.

[rapter767]

Hey SOX

I known rs69race for more than 30 years. He's has help me and more than a dozen other people build and fix there car's and has never asked for anthing in return. Even to the if his car's didn't get the same Love. Please don't call his character into question. His is and has always been a stand up guy.

[Sox]

He questioned my Character and I have the right to defend myself.Like I said I made things right so let it go for Gods sake.Stop beating a Dead Horse.

[Scooterz]

Sox,

Yep, it's not real fun is it?? But that is EXACTLY what this forum/thread is for... yeah, "you made it right" I guess... but it sounds like a comprimise at best. I would not jump on your righteous high-horse too soon. Lets not foget that the motor has to be tore down, checked out, tolerances need to be right, etc... I believe you said it had K/B pistons too... not to mention that there are a few other things that were not as your ad read.

So go on & be irritated with me, rapter, harbone, kw, etc... say we are "judging you." The only "Dead Horse" beat around here is the motor you sold.

[kw89425]

Sox,

Yep, it's not real fun is it?? But that is EXACTLY what this forum/thread is for... yeah, "you made it right" I guess... but it sounds like a comprimise at best. I would not jump on your righteous high-horse too soon. Lets not foget that the motor has to be tore down, checked out, tolerances need to be right, etc... I believe you said it had K/B pistons too... not to mention that there are a few other things that were not as your ad read.

So go on & be irritated with me, rapter, harbone, kw, etc... say we are "judging you." The only "Dead Horse" beat around here is the motor you sol
d.


oh my :lol: sucks when there is a hitch in the get away :lol:

[Sox]

Rigsby for someone who said it"s my mess not yours your sure have alot to say.Why dont you shut the Hell up and let it go.

[THERATTLER]

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

[TheYellaBrick]

Here we go AGAIN........ :roll: :roll:

[Scooterz]

Rigsby for someone who said it"s my mess not yours your sure have alot to say.Why dont you shut the Hell up and let it go.

I will let it go Sox. It's not my mess... you were full of BS, we called you on it, & you cried like a little girl w/ every excuse in the book... after all of that you "claim you made it right" w/ your cheap-ass bearing offering thinking you are a stand-up guy. "I didn't not know if I follow a sheep off of a cliff, that I would die" excuses suck & so do you. So go do another cheap rattle can job on another blown up SBC & sell it to someone else who does not belong to RJ you blithering FOOL.

[Sox]

Well I have been looking at this forum for awhile and it seems you got something to say about everything.Seems to me you aint nothing but a Big Mouth that sits behind a computer all day with his Dick in one hand and a mouse in the other

[Tod74]

The two guys agreed on a solution that settles it. There is nothing to be acomplished by further bashing.

[THERATTLER]

THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD :shock:

[Sox]

Trust me he cant help himself.Look at all his posts he has something to say about everything.Like I said, I put it to rest not him.He can say what he wants the more he opens his big mouth the more he looks like an ASS.

[blownalky3]

Now that you "made it right" with the buyer, how bout the honor payment???????????????????????

[Sox]

I dont have a problem with that.Ill send a check out tomorrow.

[outlaw256]

id want everyone to let it rest to if i got caught and was trying to cover my butt.scooter was just saying what most of us were thinking. good call scooter. your good at calling out the trash

[Harbone]

I was trying to be nice, now he just sounds like a loser that got caught! Yeah, scooter has a lot of posts on here, so do I and a ton of others, its called a "forum". If you dont like reading it or better yet reading stuff about you..."DONT SELL MISREPRESENTED JUNK!" :evil:

[kw89425]

i thought you had ordered the bearings yesterday? i still say his add on rj says it all.

[anarchyracing]

Kw,none of my business,but I think he meant he is sending a check for the honor payment.

[Scooterz]

Sox,

Yep I make a few posts... some of which are simply to my friends here in basic conversation... but when something is wrong, it's wrong. You were wrong. I have let it go & I think the best we are going to get is done. I am done talking to you & you are welcome to trash me all you want; it only makes you look even worse. scoot

[kw89425]

Kw,none of my business,but I think he meant he is sending a check for the honor payment.

oh ok

[Scorpion1110]

The ad said- directly taken from the seller's listing:

also will include a set of Headers..They are not the best but they work..
Above Added: Mon February 23, 2009, 2:38 pm EST

355 010 4 bolt main
GM crank
GM rods
KB pistons 11-1 Compression
Comp solid flat tappet 540-534
Roller Rockers
Dart Iron Eagle Platinum 200cc Heads
Holley Strip Dominator
Race 750 Done by C&S
1 Wire Alt.
Spare 7 quart oil pan
Spare Crane Cam 572-554
Hei ignition with Ignition Module

This motor went 10.70 on Alky and went 11 Teens on gas.Low runs.

If those items are not present then its misrepresentation; also considered fraud. If money changed hands across state lines, then I believe it could be a federal crime. I could easily confirm that if necessary.

Now if the seller claims that is what he was told when he bought the engine and he is relaying that information to a new buyer; guess what? Doesn't matter, the seller is making a represntation and the liability transfers to the seller. Thats just the way it is. The seller is open to litigation and punitive damages as well including legal fees.

Should the buyer have that motor professionally checked by a local machine shop, and have a certified notarized statement of the internal componets, and they do not match what was represented, the buyer will win the judgement. No doubt. Then the smart buyer will file papers to garnish wages.

However, it appears a settlement has been made in the form of bearings. Hardly seems to equate with the representation versus the actual, but a settlement is a settlement. If all parties agree case closed.

Now on to Scooter.

A standard approach to a full on attack is to create a diversion to divert attention. The attack on you is to draw attention away from the culpability and possible liability of the seller. If he can get everyone focused on the confrontation, then focus diverts from the misrepresentation. Ignore the attack and stick to the facts-

Read the "Art of War" when you can, its long but amazingly in sync with business dealing and handling strategies.

Scoot always keep the pressure on.

If the bearings are received as both parties agreed, then issue is resolved, equitability becomes a non-factor.

Scorp

[fla1976]

I agree with the Scorp. Scoot tells it as he sees it, and he seems to have pretty good vision...

[Scooterz]

Thanks to my friends for backing me up. I think we all have a clear understanding of a man's word. When that word is comprimised & then publicly challenged, I have no problem defending the victim. I have to agree w/ Scorp on this, he seller is deverting the attention to me in an attempt to change the subject. Anyways, thanks again & I would do a deal w/ any of you guys (Scorp, Harb, Fla, KW Tod, Double-d, etc...). You are all good guys!

Sox: This deal IS what it IS. The only bad part is that your denial prevents you from becomming more honest. In the end, you are the one who has to sleep at night with yourself. Again, there is alot more here at stake than a cheap set of bearings... but I am glad the dispute is over. Scooter

[RS69RACE]

Well guy's I really appreciate all of your help and understanding with this matter. He(sox) say's bearings are on the way to me shipped from jegs. Motor is tore down, everything marked and boxed, going to machine shop on wednesday to be checked furthur, along with crankshaft . I have been getting e-mails from people I didn't even know offering either help or spare part's if needed . All I can say is, WOW . Thank's to all of you . It's going to cost some money to get it straight but I will know for sure what I have when I'm done . I will know more after the machine shop has a look .

[rapter767]

Hey Sox

What goes around come's around. Thanks for everything or nothing. However you may see it. See ya at the drage strip.

[Sox]

Im at the track most Sundays come over and say HI.

[BEAST477]

Well guy's I really appreciate all of your help and understanding with this matter. He(sox) say's bearings are on the way to me shipped from jegs. Motor is tore down, everything marked and boxed, going to machine shop on wednesday to be checked furthur, along with crankshaft . I have been getting e-mails from people I didn't even know offering either help or spare part's if needed . All I can say is, WOW . Thank's to all of you . It's going to cost some money to get it straight but I will know for sure what I have when I'm done . I will know more after the machine shop has a look .

I'm sorry i'm stickin' my nose in now but...what are these "new" bearings suppose to fit if you are yet to get your parts checked???
Just a thought on my part. Not trying to stir things up any.

[fla1976]

I believe they are talking about cam bearings.

[lano]

(Quote from Sox post at bottom of page 1)
and he said to make it right that I should buy him rod and main bearings and I agreed.


Maybe the crank won't need to be ground, and the bearings will work,
hopefully...................... :) GOOD LUCK

[BEAST477]

(Quote from Sox post at bottom of page 1)
and he said to make it right that I should buy him rod and main bearings and I agreed.


Maybe the crank won't need to be ground, and the bearings will work,
hopefully...................... :) GOOD LUCK

Thats what i thought i read. But then again age can effect memory at times.

[gsforless]

Maybe they're file fit bearings... :roll: :mrgreen:

[Scooterz]

Now this is getting funny. And Sox was mad at me... JEEEZ, he ought to take a hard look at his OWN WORDS.

[BEAST477]

Maybe they're file fit bearings... :roll: :mrgreen:

Hey are they something new or is that what the guy told you.LOL

[gsforless]

lmao,beast.that's too damn funny.not trying to make light of the guy's situation,getting took sucks,just trying to lighten the mood a little in here.

[lano]

Maybe Sox will go over and 'pour him some babbitt bearings'
if the Jegs bearings are the wrong size. :P