building a new garage

[robsbird]

:? :D Im building a new garage in my back yard 32x42 and any suggestion on the different type of sealers to use on the concrete blocks and the floors. :?: :wink: rob

[blowninjected540]

I would epoxy the floor. If you seal it with a sealer and want to epoxy it later. you would have to sandblast the floor first or they call( it shot bein) which is costly. I found that out from expierence. Another thing I found out from expierence NO matter how big you build it . the barn will be to small. LOL GOOD LUCK

[lively]

when they pour the concrete floor just have them put a sealer on then-LET IT DRY BEFORE YOU WALK ON IT!!!
AFTER THE BLOCKS HAVE SET AND DRIED FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS [THEY SHOULD LOOK AND FEEL COMPLETELY DRY] THEN YOU CAN JUST PAINT THEN TO KEEP STUFF FROM SOAKING IN
BE SURE AND FILL THE CONCRETE BLOCKS WITH GROUTING OR MORTAR ALSO-IT MAKES A MUCH MORE SOLID WALL AND KEEPS THE TEMPS BETTER IN THE BUILDING[WINTER AND SUMMER]
NOT BEING PUSHY --THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING FOR A LIVING FOR THE LAST 35 YEARS 8)

IF YOU HAVE MONEY TO BURN YOU CAN ALWAYS PUT ONE OF THE TILE FLOORS IN IT YOU SEE IN THE MAGAZINES
ANY OTHER ??? JUST ASK
LIVELY

[BEAST477]

I agree with blowninjected on the epoxy paint. And if the finish on the concrete is real smooth you can sprinkle the paint chips on the paint as you go. Looks nice and keeps you from slipping if the floor gets wet.

[482]

Lively is right if you just want to "seal" the floor.(just let the finishers spray on the sealer after they pour the concrete.) Or you can do it just use a pump up sprayer for the sealer. But if you want to paint it you would need to "etch" the concrete floor with muratic acid or have it shot blasted and then you could use a concrete stain or use an epoxy finish.
On the block ,go to Sherwin-Williams or paint store in your area and get some latex block filler (we spray it on and back roll it) to get it in the pores of the block good to seal it then just paint a good coat of exterior latex paint and be done. There is also a product called UGL to water seal but the block filler is cheaper. That is what we use on shopping centers and such. Just painting it will not seal it (never mind looks bad with all the block holes showing) The block filler here is about 7 bucks a gallon but it only goes about 75 sq. ft a gallon.

[john858]

when i built mine the guys i had pour my concrete put sealer on it as they were finishing it. works good its slick when wet though :shock: good luck and 540 is wright never big enough mine's 30x60

[lanham]

My garage is 20x40 and we outgrew it a long time ago.I wish i had a 40x60.

[lively]

I HAVE USED THE ULG STUFF AND IT WORKS VERY WELL--BUT ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT ANY PAINT/ SEALER/ EPOXY OR WATERPROOFING STUFF CAN BE VERY EXPLOSIVE AROUND SPARKS AND CAN ALSO SEND YOU ON A :lol: :lol: HAPPY ; FLOATING; MIND BLOWING TRIP :lol: :lol: :lol: IF YOU DON'T HAVE GOOOOD VENTILATION :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol:
BEEN THERE /DONE THAT :lol: :lol: IT WAS NEET BUT MAN THE BRAINCELLS I BURNED UP :oops: :lol:
LIVELY

[482]

I HAVE USED THE ULG STUFF AND IT WORKS VERY WELL--BUT ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT ANY PAINT/ SEALER/ EPOXY OR WATERPROOFING STUFF CAN BE VERY EXPLOSIVE AROUND SPARKS AND CAN ALSO SEND YOU ON A :lol: :lol: HAPPY ; FLOATING; MIND BLOWING TRIP :lol: :lol: :lol: IF YOU DON'T HAVE GOOOOD VENTILATION :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol:
BEEN THERE /DONE THAT :lol: :lol: IT WAS NEET BUT MAN THE BRAINCELLS I BURNED UP :oops: :lol:
LIVELY

Yea me too! But it is not like I had a lot of cells to start with.
The latex is not bad but the oil paints and 2 part epoxy is rough. :cry:

[TheYellaBrick]

If ya can't go OUT for more room, go UP. With all those fumes going on you'll be REALLy up anyway.......You''ll be waaaaay too small after ya move your stuff in ! I'm in 7200sf now and have already outgrown it. The more room ya have, the more stuff ya get...... :shock: :shock: :shock:

[robsbird]

:) :!: thanks for all the advice I will use it, the outside wall are at ground level in the back and one side. we stuccoed then put tar on the stucco and plastic over the tar. I have not done anything to the floor or inside. the building is and floor is not 2 mo. old. the floor is a little dirty. If I pressure wash and let it dry that should be ok don,t you think. also we put plastic down before pouring the concrete. :arrow: thanks rob

[ashtrak]

You can go to my profile and look at my floor. I did it with UCOATIT. if you do epoxy DON'T Seal the new concrete floor, wait 30 days for floor to cure. Power wash it to clean with concrete cleaner Let dry then read instuctions on how to epoxy it. Me and the kids did mine in a weekend then parked on it after a week. Good Luck

[robsbird]

:) :!: o ya my dimentions are 32x42 12 high, the friend that dug out to the footer said you can never go big enough. but in my situation with my property this is about as large as I can go. I think I will put a storage room in the rafters. there 10-12 pitch and I can stand up easily. thanks rob

[lively]

yes-put storage above-----I HAVE A 12 BY 28 FOOT ROOM ABOVE MY GARAGE/ WITH A STAIRWAY OUTSIDE TO ACCESS IT --THE EXTRA STORAGE IS NICE
JUST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE STRONG ENOUGH FLOOR JOIST UP THERE TO HOLD MORE WEIGHT[I HAVE 2 BY 12 RAFTERS ON THE BOTTOM RUNS]
ALSO USE 2 X6 WALL STUDS AND INSULATE EVERYTHING VERY WELL[IT KEEP IT COOLER IN THE SUMMER AND WARMER IN THE WINTER

LIVELY

[robsbird]

:!: lively I said my pitch was 10-12 but its 6-12 and I called my truss builder and he said I could reinforce and make a nice room, with minimal weight. no heavy stuff in one spot. but I could spread it out equally and be safe around 700 lbs with a 20 x 9 area, and I can go more than 20 and may do it . rob

[andamo]

I'm not sure where you're located, but if you decide to put down a epoxy floor, make sure you put styrofoam sheets down on top of the garage fill and then heavy mill plastic over that. If you don't, the moisture will migrate thru the cement and break the bond of epoxy to the concrete. A good friend had a house built and didn't do that and within 1 winter, big patches of the epoxy lifted. And it was applied by a professional installer. I don't know how this would apply to floors in other areas of the country, but that's what is recommened here in the Pittsburgh area by installers.

[hammertime]

Had the chat of epoxy floors with some local racers this past summer, it seemed they all said to put down something under where tires are going to sit because eventually they will rip up the epoxy.

[robsbird]

:?: I have plastic down under the concrete but no styrofoam, won,t the plastic be enough!!!!rob