BEWARE OF gonyea1320 (#63729)

[MManer]

He's a JUNK salesman. Keep an eye out for these ads: 1399350 and 1411791.

[Scorpion1110]

With absolutely no information this is a useless post. Suppose he came on here and said you were a junk salesman and said watch out for your ads.

Exactly who would we be inclined to believe?

If you feel you have been scammed, post a clear concise summary of the issue and what happened, and maybe the help you get will lead to resolution.

But a post like this is a waste of everyone's time.

Later,

Scorp

[MManer]

Scorpion,you raise some good points. My post was intended as a warning for others. If it might help someone else I will post the details. I purchased the ATI Super Damper listed in the ad. I was told it's condition was very good,with the exception of the decal on the face being worn off.
When the damper arrived the face of the hub had been beaten with a large hammer during installation,to the point that the hub was severely distorted.
I also bought a flexplate that had been described as SFI certified. Upon it's arrival,I found it to have had several holes drilled in it, as part of a "balance job".
I'm sure you know that once an SFI part is modified it is no longer certified.
After three emails,two attempts to contact him thru this board and three phone calls with messages and phone numbers left each time,I feel confident he has no intention of making this right. So just a warning for others to lookout for JR Gonyea. If you need to contact him,his name is Ralph Leo Gonyea Jr. and his email is [email protected]
Mike

[fla1976]

That is the type of information that people need to know. Everyone would be wise to heed your warning, he is selling junk.

[gonyea1320]

I JUST GOT BACK FROM A HOLIDAY VACATION AT SEA WHEN I FOUND MR.MANER HAD CALLED MY CELL PHONE AND LEFT MANY THREATS WE ALL KNOW NO PHONE SERVICE AT SEA. I WANT TO START BY SAYING
THAT THE PARTS I SOLD WERE GOOD PARTS AND AS DISCRIBED. THESE PARTS WERE ON AN ENGINE I RAN FOR TWO YEARS AT IHRA EVENTS. THEY WERE TECK INSPECTED AND PASSED. I HAVE SOLD A LOT OF PARTS ON THIS SITE NEVER ANY JUNK. THE ENGINE WAS ASSEMBLED BY JEFF TATLOR RACE ENGINES I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD BEAT A BALLANCER ON AN ENGINE. THE COUNTER WEIGHT WAS DRILLED FOR BALANCING AND PASSED IHRA.CERTIFICATION. THE BALANCER FACE WAS MESSED UP FROM A CRANK TRIGGER HUB MOUNTED ON IT BUT NEVER BEATEN WITH A HAMMER. I TOLD HIM HE COULD CALL ATI THEY WOULD POSSIBLY GIVE HIM A NEW STICKER FOR THERE PRODUCT. THESE PARTS WERE SOLD AS IS IN USED CONDITION NOT NEW.

[lively]

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO----YOU SOLD HIM JUNK :oops: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: PERIOD

LIVELY

[RonOwensRacing]

Let me say this right up front I'm not taking any sides here what so ever .
and don't know either person in this .
but drilling a little material out of a flex plate for balancing a engine will not affect the SFI cert. now if you have altered it by enlarging the converter holes or by drilling through the flex plate or some other type of altering then it would not pass SFI spec.
And i have run all over the place and have never had a tech person check a flex plate i have had them check the trans shield a few times but never the flex plate or the damper.
I could have just been lucky i don't know and I'm not sure that i would even buy a used flex plate to start with .

I'm not trying to pee on anyone just thought i would offer that little bit of info.
and it is only my opinion .

Have a happy and safe new year

[MManer]

Jr If you consider these parts to be in such good condition I would assume you would have no problem accepting them back and refunding my money. I will pay for the shipping both ways and you won't be out a dime. The ad was free,and you should have no problem reselling these part's in their "good" condition. I began trying to contact you on the day the damper arrived,in this time of email,pm's,voice mail, all of which I made use of, it's pretty uncommon not to be able to reach someone in a couple of day's. I assumed the worse of you because of the condition these parts were in when they arrived,after having discussed their condition with you in depth on the phone, and you told me the damper's only flaw was the decal being damaged on the face. ATI dampers are notoriously tight and often require honing to have the proper interference fit. By the hammer marks on the face and the scoring of the inside of the hub,it's obvious NO attempt was made to fit the balancer correctly. I have opened a complaint with Paypal which I will gladly close upon recieving a refund. I will also remove this complaint/warning after I recieve the refund. Please keep any communications with me about this subject,posted on this forum.

rlmotorsports the holes in the flexplate are thru holes and this flexplate would not pass an inspection and it would not be recertifiable. It may well be that you could "use" the flywheel,but if that would have been my only concern I could have used the $35 dollar one I already own. It was advertised as an SFI certified flexplate which is what I needed,but that is not what I recieved.

I thought I might add this note so no one would think that this might be some sort of buyer's remorse. I ordered a new ATI Super Damper and a new ATI certified flexplate Monday. It's NOT about the money it's about the condition of the parts. Plain and simple.

[Scorpion1110]

mike-could you post some pics.

Mr. Gonyea you're local and we're nearly neighbors as you live in Thurmont and I am in Frederick- I am sure you are well known in racing circles-any names you want to share? We might know some fellow racers who can vouch for you (or not).

BTW Used does not equal misrepresentation, so if you misrepresented them then you are at fault.

Mike-should it be that you choose to file legal proceedings in Maryland Small Claims court I'll be glad to assist and would even take your Power of Attorney to pursue-assuming that you are justified in your claim.

PM me separately to discuss.

Happy Frigggin Holidays all,

Scorp

[MManer]

Scorp,I will gladly post pics. I will try my camera phone and see if the quality of the picture is adequate,if not I will pick my digital camera up from my father today, and post the pics later. Thank you for the offer of assistance and if need be I will contact you. I would also be willing to ship these parts to you, today, for inspection,as I have no plans of using them for anything.
Mike

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u56/MikeManer/ATIDamper.jpg
I think this should make it clear what my complaint is about the damper. I have other pictures if needed. I will post pictures of the flexplate shortly.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u56/MikeManer/Flexplate.jpg

[bigray]

the seller says and i QUOTE (I HAVE SOLD A LOT OF PARTS ON THIS SITE NEVER ANY JUNK.) YET ONLY ONE HONOR PAYMENT.doesnt sound like a lots of parts being honor paid..if the parts are as good as you say.and the buyer is willing to pay shipping both ways. Heck just refund his money. repost them.and resale them...and you look good.if not.then you look like a Buttt o

[lively]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[dparker]

My first response to the pic of the dampner was Dammnn!!! Looks like hammer marks to me. Maybe he sent you the wrong balancer. But come on scorpion to sue is over the top. Its not an item I would want on my car, but he didn't go into detail on it either. His idea and mine would be totally different on good shape. Here's his ad:

I HAVE 2 BALANCERS 1 IS A B.H.J INTERNAL AND 1 IS A ATI EXTERNAL BOTH IN GOOD SHAPE WITH SFI STICKERS $125.00 EACH OR BOTH FOR $200.00 PLUS 9.95 SHIPPING

I think he should refund the money just to be honorable. But to sue over this is ridicules!!!!!!!!

[MManer]

Maybe this will help.


From: gonyea1320 To: MManer Date: 2008-12-14 10:33:03
Subject: Re: ATI Super Damper
Re: Ad #1399350 - BBC INT BALANCER
NO WHEN WE FRESHENED THE MOTOR WE WHENT TO ALUMINUM RODS SO WE ENDED UP GOING TO INTERNAL BAKANCE. THE BALANCER IS IN GREAT SHAPE THE FACE STICKER ON FRONT IS WORN FROM A CRANK TRIGGER HUB MOUNTED ON IT. OTHER THAN THAT OK. LET ME KNOW 240-315-5641 THANKS


2008-12-14 09:39:09] MManer wrote:
> I'm interested in the balancer. Was it ever installed on a motor that grenaded,and is the sealing surface in good condition? Thanks
> Mike


I don't see how anyone could consider that damper to be in "GREAT" shape.
Mike

[gonyea1320]

I'M SORRY BUT THE HOLES YOU ARE SHOWING ARE FACTORY HOLES. THE DAMPNER WAS NOT LIKE THAT WHEN I SHIP IT TO YOU. YOU MUST OF DID THAT BECAUSE YOU DID,T LIKE THE LOOKS AT FIST. I,M NOT GOING TO GET INTO A PISSING MATCH OVER THIS. HAD YOU NOT HAVE MADE SO MANY THEATS OVER THE PHONE AND ELSE WHERE IT MIGHT HAVE WORKED WITH YOU. ANY ONE WHO WANTS TO GET INVOVED FEEL FREE YOUR WASTING YOUR TIME. ALSO PAYPAL EVEN AGREES WITH ME AND IS NOT REFUNDING HIS MONEY BACK. I KEPT ALL THE PHONE MESSAGES HE SENT TO ME I CAN'T HELP I HAD NO PHONE SERVICE. I HOPE NOBODY ELSE SELLS YOU ANY USED PARTS I WOULD HATE TO SEE THEM GO THRU THIS BULL LIKE I AM. YOU BEEN A MEMBER HOW LONG A MONTH. ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THIS SUBJECT.

[Scorpion1110]

My first response to the pic of the dampner was Dammnn!!! Looks like hammer marks to me. Maybe he sent you the wrong balancer. But come on scorpion to sue is over the top. Its not an item I would want on my car, but he didn't go into detail on it either. His idea and mine would be totally different on good shape. Here's his ad:

I HAVE 2 BALANCERS 1 IS A B.H.J INTERNAL AND 1 IS A ATI EXTERNAL BOTH IN GOOD SHAPE WITH SFI STICKERS $125.00 EACH OR BOTH FOR $200.00 PLUS 9.95 SHIPPING

I think he should refund the money just to be honorable. But to sue over this is ridicules!!!!!!!!

Dparker-

There is dialogue between these two parties. As I alluded earlier if Mr. Maner can prove he got screwed, I said I would help, and the same offer would extend to you Mr. Parker.

Thats what small claims court is for. It costs about $25 to file your suit in MD and for an extra $15.00 you can have the sheriff deliver the subpoena to the defendant-preferably at their place of employment.

Let me ask you this-is a trip to court worth it if it saves YOU from being the recipient of buggered up parts in the future? or a member of the racing community?

Some things you do over principle not dollars.

Been to small claims court and have 100% success record and it wasnt over the cash-it was because some joker thought he could pull a fast one-

Bet he thought otherwise when the garnishment hit his check.

M Maner- if you want to pursue and you have reasonable proof that you wre screwed, i'll help because maybe it will protect the next guy and thats worth it.

Your call PM me if you need help.

Scorp

[Scooterz]

Hey Mike,

By your pic's, info, & correspondense to the seller & his remarks, it sure sounds like you are honest & a man of principal. The pic's are compelling as the dampener looks beaten like a red head step child. If it were me, I would want to be the first person to lighten a flex plate... I would want the oppertunity to choose the area, how much material I remove, & where I do it. More importantly, I would want to know that it is done by someone else first BEFORE I purchase it.

Gonyea, being that there is a accurate story documented w/ proof (pictures) & correspondence of this transaction, my opinion is that you should refund. Not saying you Scammed Mike, but this is not what Mike expected or wanted. The honorable thing would be to make amends & reverse this deal. JMO!

[MManer]

I'M SORRY BUT THE HOLES YOU ARE SHOWING ARE FACTORY HOLES.

THE COUNTER WEIGHT WAS DRILLED FOR BALANCING
Make up your mind,the counterweight has no hole drilled in it. These holes have burrs on the back side from where the bit broke thru. The flex plate is also zinc dichromate coated,except in the drilled holes.



THE DAMPNER WAS NOT LIKE THAT WHEN I SHIP IT TO YOU. YOU MUST OF DID THAT BECAUSE YOU DID,T LIKE THE LOOKS AT FIST.
That makes perfect sense,I took a $350 dollar damper that I bought for $125 that was in GREAT shape except for a useless decal and I beat the hell out of it, on the off chance that I could get a refund for it.

I,M NOT GOING TO GET INTO A PISSING MATCH OVER THIS. HAD YOU NOT HAVE MADE SO MANY THEATS OVER THE PHONE AND ELSE WHERE IT MIGHT HAVE WORKED WITH YOU.
The "Theats" I made consisted of telling you this situation was going to get worse. And I would say that has happened.

ANY ONE WHO WANTS TO GET INVOVED FEEL FREE YOUR WASTING YOUR TIME. ALSO PAYPAL EVEN AGREES WITH ME AND IS NOT REFUNDING HIS MONEY BACK. I KEPT ALL THE PHONE MESSAGES HE SENT TO ME I CAN'T HELP I HAD NO PHONE SERVICE. I HOPE NOBODY ELSE SELLS YOU ANY USED PARTS I WOULD HATE TO SEE THEM GO THRU THIS BULL LIKE I AM. YOU BEEN A MEMBER HOW LONG A MONTH.
ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THIS SUBJECT.

All I can say is I am thankful for this forum,and the help those of you here have offered, especially Scorpion. I hope that everyone that see's this situation as I do will remember Ralph Leo Gonyea Jr. and the kind of man he is. Maybe with any luck, word will get out around his part of the country as to his real character. Keep this thought in the back of your head Ralph. Karma's a bitch!

[mopar1968]

I agree with Rigsby refund is the honorable thing to do, i have read all this and sat back, but from what i have seen you need to make it right!! As for the hammer marks they aren't fresh, they have dirt on then not shiny as they should be if he done it!






'' JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

[Tod74]

I have never understood why anyone would beat a dampener on with a hammer. :?

From the looks of that one I'd guess someone was too lazy or stupid to run a hone through it.

[topsportsman1]

I don't blame the buyer for being upset here.

I'd do the right thing by the seller refunding his money and take the parts back<< Thats the right thing to do.

Personally I wouldn't accept parts like that neither.I just nip it in the bud and always buy new now,I been there and already done this and got burnt once real good.

Jr do the right thing,Mike already said he'd send the parts back on HIS dime.Man up

http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1399350/BBC-INT-BALANCER.html

This is unacceptable and not in GOOD shape.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u56/MikeManer/ATIDamper.jpg

[TheYellaBrick]

oops dbl posted, sorry... :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

[TheYellaBrick]

I agree, totally unacceptable condition. Even if it was not packed sufficiently, THIS type of damage could NOT happen from being dropped or recklessly handled in transient. THESE are definitely aged hammer dents. This part would have to be GIVEN away at a swap meet. IMHO

[fla1976]

X2 MissDD :)

[MManer]

Guy's I appreciate the help,but I'm afraid we've heard the last from Ralph Leo Gonyea Jr. From the items he sold, to the absurd stories he invented on how the damper was damaged. I think it very unlikely that he would have the spine to do the right thing.

I also made the "classic" mistake of not getting pictures of the items upfront. I have always had such good luck dealing with gearheads,that I just didn't think it was nessasary. I won't make that mistake again.

I may work with scorpian,as he has generously offered his assistance with possibly filing a small claims case against him.

I would like to ask that any of you that ever see him selling items again,post a warning, to his potential victims if possible. I will post his screen names that I have found him using below. Thank you again for your support.
Mike

Ralph Leo Gonyea Jr
Ph# 240-315-5641
Ebay ID: gonyea1320
Email: [email protected]
Racing Junk ID: gonyea1320 #63729

[topsportsman1]

Mike
A couple things to do for you.This will get his attention.


http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1399350/BBC-INT-BALANCER.html

On the link I posted,go to it.Click on report of the sale,fill out all the proper info to FLAG RJ.

After that

Go click on report this add as inappropriate and fill out the info and tell PJ to come in here to this thread and check out the pictures and what Mr.Gonyea says

Mr Gonyea clearly misrepresented what he was selling here.Cause that stuff looks and smells like JUNK

Like someone said earlier,you couldn't give this stuff away at a swap meet

Mr Gonyea do the right thing here and give Mike his money back and be done with it.

I message him hopefully he will come back and make things right Mike.

[MManer]

Just wanted to add this link, I found it while checking out another seller before buying some parts. Apparently this is pretty common behavior for JR Gonyea or Ralph Leo Gonyea from Mt. Airy,MD. to be selling junk parts.
Mike

http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=6466

[dparker]

My first response to the pic of the dampner was Dammnn!!! Looks like hammer marks to me. Maybe he sent you the wrong balancer. But come on scorpion to sue is over the top. Its not an item I would want on my car, but he didn't go into detail on it either. His idea and mine would be totally different on good shape. Here's his ad:

I HAVE 2 BALANCERS 1 IS A B.H.J INTERNAL AND 1 IS A ATI EXTERNAL BOTH IN GOOD SHAPE WITH SFI STICKERS $125.00 EACH OR BOTH FOR $200.00 PLUS 9.95 SHIPPING

I think he should refund the money just to be honorable. But to sue over this is ridicules!!!!!!!!

Dparker-

There is dialogue between these two parties. As I alluded earlier if Mr. Maner can prove he got screwed, I said I would help, and the same offer would extend to you Mr. Parker.

Thats what small claims court is for. It costs about $25 to file your suit in MD and for an extra $15.00 you can have the sheriff deliver the subpoena to the defendant-preferably at their place of employment.

Let me ask you this-is a trip to court worth it if it saves YOU from being the recipient of buggered up parts in the future? or a member of the racing community?

Some things you do over principle not dollars.

Been to small claims court and have 100% success record and it wasnt over the cash-it was because some joker thought he could pull a fast one-

Bet he thought otherwise when the garnishment hit his check.

M Maner- if you want to pursue and you have reasonable proof that you wre screwed, i'll help because maybe it will protect the next guy and thats worth it.

Your call PM me if you need help.

Scorp

I stand corrected Scorp. You were right, on this deal I think he needs to be sued if nothing else to show him not everybody will turn the other cheek. Hope you accept my retreat and I hope you can help Mike make this right. :( :oops:

[flipper59]

Stunts such as this makes it hard for all of us today who are trying to deal straight up. I don't really trust anyone any more that i don't know personally that is selling a used racing product.
What is our Nation coming to be?

[Scorpion1110]

I JUST GOT BACK FROM A HOLIDAY VACATION AT SEA WHEN I FOUND MR.MANER HAD CALLED MY CELL PHONE AND LEFT MANY THREATS WE ALL KNOW NO PHONE SERVICE AT SEA. I WANT TO START BY SAYING
THAT THE PARTS I SOLD WERE GOOD PARTS AND AS DISCRIBED. THESE PARTS WERE ON AN ENGINE I RAN FOR TWO YEARS AT IHRA EVENTS. THEY WERE TECK INSPECTED AND PASSED. I HAVE SOLD A LOT OF PARTS ON THIS SITE NEVER ANY JUNK. THE ENGINE WAS ASSEMBLED BY JEFF TATLOR RACE ENGINES I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD BEAT A BALLANCER ON AN ENGINE. THE COUNTER WEIGHT WAS DRILLED FOR BALANCING AND PASSED IHRA.CERTIFICATION. THE BALANCER FACE WAS MESSED UP FROM A CRANK TRIGGER HUB MOUNTED ON IT BUT NEVER BEATEN WITH A HAMMER. I TOLD HIM HE COULD CALL ATI THEY WOULD POSSIBLY GIVE HIM A NEW STICKER FOR THERE PRODUCT. THESE PARTS WERE SOLD AS IS IN USED CONDITION NOT NEW.

Mr. Gonyea-

Hate to put a DAMPER on your new year, but I provided all the necessary court info to the guy you sold junk to. I will gladly take his Power of Attorney for the opportunity to let an out of town individual pursue you in state.

It would be prudent for you to rectify the situation with the buyer,

Scorp

[BEAST477]

Good job Scorp. Keep us up to date as to what happens please.
Thanks Mike

[outlaw256]

damn scorp, you are standing straight up on this one.im not EVER gonna screw anyone. and its not because of the law or princibles, i just dont want you on my butt, lol. just kidding! i think your offer is on the money. id be glad to call you a friend.

[Scooterz]

That is honorable of you Scorp! People like me do not know how to pursue this kind of thing very well & I would just write it off as a loss. If enough people like you & victims stay on task, together you can stop many of these dirt bags from ripping off good folks. Please let us know the outcome... good job. Rigsby

Gonyea- I know you are reading this. You know the right thing to do. The evidence is pretty compelling... even you see it differently. Make it right & go be honest... you can sleep better at night.