Watch out for Nick Claborne in ALbany KY

[bowtie4542001]

Hey guys, just wanted to give yall a heads up on this guy, I traded him my tube chassis vega and a 96 Honda Magna for a 68 Camaro on 9-30-08 We agreed that we would meet about half way. Everything started out pretty good and then he called and said that his brakes messed up on his truck and he had to go back and get the other truck. I told him that was fine and I would keep driving and we would meet somewhere. We finally met up and did the trade. He told me the engine in the camaro had been dynoed at 751 hp at the flywheel and he had forgot the dyno sheets in the other truck along with the tach, window net and new seat belts. I told him that would be fine, he could just send them to me when he got back. After a couple of weeks of not receiving anything I contacted him and he said that the package was sent back to his dads house and he would resend it the next morning. I again gave him my address so he could make sure that he got it right. A week went by and I sent him an email stated that I thought I had been screwed over and he replied back that he had been out of town and hadn't been able to send the package. This is now Decemeber and I contacted him saying that I was not going to forget about what he owed me. He then asked me how much money would it take to make things right, I told him $75 since I had already bought a tach for the car, he then replied, well lets just make it a $100. I told him that would settle things up between us then. That was two weeks ago and haven't heard anything from him. I p.m. him yesterday telling him that I was going to do this so it would not be a big surprize to him. I had put a message on his racespace about he was a good guy and I would do business with him again. When I didn't receive my stuff, I then put on his race space, beware of this guy and make sure you have everything you are supposed to before trading. Well he erased that one but left the one where I was saying he was a great guy to deal with. I know that its not much what he owes me but I just wanted yall guys to be aware of him. If I receive my money ($100), I will also post it on here. This is my first time doing this and don't like to but I think it is only fair since he is always trading on here. He has several ads on here right now: 1403393, 1402706, 1404064, 1404073, and 1404084.

Thanks
Chris

[kw89425]

good luck. he is not an honest guy

[Scooterz]

Hey Chris,

Be it 75.00 or 100,000, a deal is a deal. If he did not follow through, that makes him a risk to deal with for others. I think you are doing the right thing. Good luck & I hope it all works out. Rigsby

[fastted]

That's what I'm talking about Rigsby!! Aman's word is his word!

[mopar1968]

I agree it doesn't matter if it is $1.00 or $100.000 he still owes it to you!!








'' JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

[rat69]

i was ganna trade with him a few days ago he had a malibu on here,he said his back was out and he couldnt make the trip,so he said if i took the truck to him he wouldnt back out.man im glad i didnt do that i would ben a unhappy camper if he backed out,,,,,,,sounds like he probly would have.

[bowtie4542001]

Thanks guys and still haven't got my money. Doesn't look like I will either. Its nice to know that I might have helped out one guy though.

Chris

[ashtrak]

I kinda got a feeling i wouldn't trust him on anything he said about the car :idea:

[bowtie4542001]

I kinda got a feeling i wouldn't trust him on anything he said about the car :idea:

I didn't, that is why I called the guy that owned it before him. He never let me know his number but I remembered him saying that the orevious owner worked at the drag strip he ran at. I called up there andstarted talking and got the shop that built the engine and the shop that built the trans. Called them and they remembered the car. Got all the information from them. I feel that it was better to go to the source then listen to him. :D

[bbchevy]

Seems that NICK has been a Invite to DEFEND Hisself but Chooses NOT Too.............................???
He has branced out, i see now.He has a RED Ad#1429285.
All the Wheeling and Dealing that He does,but still NOT a Red Cent for a Lttle Honor $$$..............?
Later
G 8)

[TheYellaBrick]

That's why it's called an HONOR payment. These scumbags have no HONOR..........just know how to blood suck...........

[vegaswheelsup]

Still have the vega? Ad number?

[bbchevy]

NO AD #.
But i sent you a PM.
231 690 5075 cell
LATER
Greg 8)

[jimmie]

yep he almost got me i took a day off work he never showed iam glad now i would have got ripped off thax nick //// jim

[ashbros]

Ya know the rage that goes through the viens of a guy that gets screwed is very uncontrolable. Every dog has its day and I have lived to see this come to truth more than once in my lifetime.

There is nothing worse than a crook. They are the scum of the earth.

When someone is caught red handed there ads and membership should be pulled and their personal info should be displayed just in case Tony and Rocko need to make a visit to straighten things out.

Hope you work out your problem.
ashbros

[bowtie4542001]

yep he almost got me i took a day off work he never showed iam glad now i would have got ripped off thax nick //// jim

Glad I was able to help someone else. Never did get my money but I figured by now, he has lost a lot more money by people being aware of the kind of guy he really is.

Chris

[bbchevy]

NOT So Slick NICK Claborn......
Check out His Ads # 1472255 and 1470648.
Ever Stick your Hand in the FIRE...............
I'm sure that when He sells these Vehicles,He will SURELY be Making a few HONOR PAYMENTS......................NOT!!!
Hey NICK,
I'm Still WAITING PATIENTLY for the set of Slicks that you sent me?(THAT I NEVER RECEIVED)?
HAVE a GREAT DAY!
Does it Feel like the WALLS are CLOSING IN............???
Later
Greg 8)

[kw89425]

i know where he lives :wink:

[SUPERBARTMAN]

Yep, he is a scammer. This is all he does, buy, sell and trade cars on RJ and he has built quite a bad reputation. My friend and I bought an altered from him a few months ago and we had to chase him down to do it. Finally we met him at a dragstrip in Tn. He had already had a driver put 5 passes on the car before we got there. Real smart when you have a car sold! Right! We paid him for the car and of coarse he had forgotten the paperwork and documents for thecar but guess what, he would fax them in the morning. After many, many calls, lost calls, hangups and unanswered emails, we never did nor never will get that paperwork.

I have found that he is unreliable, untruthful and just down right decietful in dealing with cars. Shame on Nick Clayborn and he is trying to make a living on here.

I am sure there are hundreds of stories on her about Old Sanit Nick and his dealings. I have come across many of them accidentally.

I am done with him! Everyone else with any sense should be too. [/b]

[ams69]

well my deal with him was slightly diff.....i sent a guy andmy car to trade him for another car ,nick paid my driver 400.00 to do the transport,the deal was done,i came home from work and NOTHING was as it was said to be as far as parts on the car.....i called nick madder than heck and he said no problem he would eat the 400 and i could bring the car back and trade back so i did the same night. my deal was a bad deal in a way but he also lost in the deal so it is what it is.I am not sure how i feel about the whole thing but he did not give me any crap on trading back so am sorry to hear about your bad dealing with him.This website is going to get someone in trouble in a bad way someday when someone puts the screws to the wrong person!

[wvhippie]

Ol Nick hasnt changed. He promised to pay me travel exspenses if I brought a car all the way to his place in Albany Ky to do a trade. After we exchanged vehicles he said it was late and he hadnt gone to the bank but he would put $100 in my paypal act. the next day. Today makes two weeks and no deposit. This post had dropped of the 1st page of the board and I didnt do a search. I should have done more research on him but you live and learn. Nick ol buddy this I will promise you I will be a thorn in your side for a long time to come. :twisted:

[dtperformance]

YUP!!! Got me also owes me a 68 Camaro 4 inch fiberglass hood I never got from a deal 5 months ago. Said he shipped it and never got it. Would not return any emails or PMs

[wvhippie]

YUP!!! Got me also owes me a 68 Camaro 4 inch fiberglass hood I never got from a deal 5 months ago. Said he shipped it and never got it. Would not return any emails or PMs I have a bike trip planed in Sept. Will be going near him if he hasnt paid up by then I think I will stop by and pay him a visit. Some body else emailed me and said he owed their friend a trany. When I stop by I will see if he has your hood and that guys trany. Maybe we should have one of our old ladies follow in a pickup. Hard to tell what all we might find. :wink:

[Scorpion1110]

YUP!!! Got me also owes me a 68 Camaro 4 inch fiberglass hood I never got from a deal 5 months ago. Said he shipped it and never got it. Would not return any emails or PMs I have a bike trip planed in Sept. Will be going near him if he hasnt paid up by then I think I will stop by and pay him a visit. Some body else emailed me and said he owed their friend a trany. When I stop by I will see if he has your hood and that guys trany. Maybe we should have one of our old ladies follow in a pickup. Hard to tell what all we might find. :wink:

Suggestion.

Get the names of everyone who was scammed and as a group contact the police department in his area. Let them know you are coming to collect, would like to file a police report and then be accompanied to the residence for your stuff.

Dont you think that will cause a heckuva lot more aggravation that way? Take your camera as well so you can snap some pics- that will just tick him off.

Do it the right way so you can inflict the type of misery that lingers for years. Bones and bruises heal-litigation, criminal investigation and court proceedings can be the type of hassle that lasts for years.

BTW, when you get your stuff- make sure you get his address correct. Why?

Because you are going to send him an Xmas card annually to remind him that you are the guy who made his life miserable. No return address of course.

Scorp

[johnnym]

Let me tell you, I had the misfortune to deal with Nick Claborn(claborn5). He called me one night pushing me on a trade that he had. It was a 93 Cobra with a turbo. I coul tell that he was full of bull but the car did look good in the pictures. I followed through with what he wanted. He said we had to do the deal the next day. I spent the next morning getting someone to haul my car. When it came time to get in contact with claborn I spent the next five days getting the run around. Then finally he called and said if I would pay his fuel he would bring it to me. I waited all day Saturday and until this day I have not heard from him since. Luckily I lost just $100.00 dollars or so but still thats too much. Unless he has moved, I called around Albany Kentucky and have his Home number, Street Address, Cousins Cell number and Home number if anyone is interested. Nick just fair warning, all this mess is going to catch up with you! In my experience it is better to mess with a mans wife than mess with his car trading!

Everybody stay away from Nick Claborn(Claborn5)

Nick if you read this and would like to call me my cell is 828-736-6582

Hope this helps,
Johnny M

[wvhippie]

YUP!!! Got me also owes me a 68 Camaro 4 inch fiberglass hood I never got from a deal 5 months ago. Said he shipped it and never got it. Would not return any emails or PMs I have a bike trip planed in Sept. Will be going near him if he hasnt paid up by then I think I will stop by and pay him a visit. Some body else emailed me and said he owed their friend a trany. When I stop by I will see if he has your hood and that guys trany. Maybe we should have one of our old ladies follow in a pickup. Hard to tell what all we might find. :wink:

Suggestion.

Get the names of everyone who was scammed and as a group contact the police department in his area. Let them know you are coming to collect, would like to file a police report and then be accompanied to the residence for your stuff.

Dont you think that will cause a heckuva lot more aggravation that way? Take your camera as well so you can snap some pics- that will just tick him off.

Do it the right way so you can inflict the type of misery that lingers for years. Bones and bruises heal-litigation, criminal investigation and court proceedings can be the type of hassle that lasts for years.

BTW, when you get your stuff- make sure you get his address correct. Why?

Because you are going to send him an Xmas card annually to remind him that you are the guy who made his life miserable. No return address of course.

ScorpScorp thanks for the advice. I am game if you other guys are. Send me a message and we can get together and work out the details. He emailed me this morning so he is still responding to me. He said he had some sickness in his family and that is why he hadnt sent the money this time. I told him again that I would not go away and he should just pay up. It is no the money it is the principle of it. If I owed him I would pay him and I exspect the same. If you guys want to get together let me know.

[transam4357]

well i just talked to him about thirty miutes ago i am fgame. i just traded a drag car project for a ford escape that he was buying parts for but now after being confronted with this issue on here he dosent want to do it . i will go i am in hopkinsville. i got a nice suprise for him

[wvhippie]

Nick just sent me my money via Western Union. He said he had the hood that he owes the guy and he will send it. Stay in touch with him and maybe you can work it out. Thanks to the forum and everybody if there is anything I can do for any of you let me know. Anthony.

[transam4357]

good deal whipple

[Scorpion1110]

Email Claborn5 and let him know about this thread.

Then contact the police department in his area- let the officer know that you would like to arrange a conference call with the entire group of buyers who have been scammed- Set the conference call up through ATT with a passcode. When the officer has a large group all of which are willing to take action- I expect he will move.

For whoever is traveling to his jurisdiction I would make him the point person for collection.

If you go after him as a group, I have a gut feeling that you have a good chance to collect.

I recommend you take this offline and coordinate. A structured professional approach to the police will get a quick and directed response.

Scorp

[Scorpion1110]

Email Claborn5 and let him know about this thread.

Then contact the police department in his area- let the officer know that you would like to arrange a conference call with the entire group of buyers who have been scammed- Set the conference call up through ATT with a passcode. When the officer has a large group all of which are willing to take action- I expect he will move.

For whoever is traveling to his jurisdiction I would make him the point person for collection.

If you go after him as a group, I have a gut feeling that you have a good chance to collect.

I recommend you take this offline and coordinate. A structured professional approach to the police will get a quick and directed response.

Scorp

[dtperformance]

Nick just sent me my money via Western Union. He said he had the hood that he owes the guy and he will send it. Stay in touch with him and maybe you can work it out. Thanks to the forum and everybody if there is anything I can do for any of you let me know. Anthony.

We will see I PM'ed him and told him he could send me the hood or 250 cash to make it right it's all up to him. Ill see if he will respond.

[transam4357]

well i am all taken care of. thanks nick

[Scorpion1110]

well i am all taken care of. thanks nick

Thanks Nick?

This guy has been on here for 8 months, theres a line of people he owes money or parts to, and most likely the only reason he ponied anything up is so this thread goes away so he can start this crap all over again and you say thank you?

How about "Its GD time you paid me and you owe me interest?

He hasnt earned a thank you.

Scorp

[transam4357]

actually scorpion i met nick sunday for the first time ok. we did our deal and he owed me some parts. k i got my parts today and i am happy. less than a week. actually one dayu earlier than he promised. so i would appreciate it if you didnt attack me over this. maybe i got lucky or whatever. but he made good on our deal and thats what i was saying. i cannot speak for anyone else ok.

[outlaw256]

transam, he does you ok, but screws everyone else and that makes him ok in your book?are you french by any chance?

[Scorpion1110]

actually scorpion i met nick sunday for the first time ok. we did our deal and he owed me some parts. k i got my parts today and i am happy. less than a week. actually one dayu earlier than he promised. so i would appreciate it if you didnt attack me over this. maybe i got lucky or whatever. but he made good on our deal and thats what i was saying. i cannot speak for anyone else ok.

Total crap.

Heres your post from 08/13/09:

well i just talked to him about thirty miutes ago i am fgame. i just traded a drag car project for a ford escape that he was buying parts for but now after being confronted with this issue on here he dosent want to do it . i will go i am in hopkinsville. i got a nice suprise for him

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So you were game for a class action approach, you "had a surprise for him"

Now he's ok.


So on Sunday 08/09/09 you did your deal, and on 08/13/09 you posted that he wouldnt provide the parts and then 6 hours later you post that everything is fine and you got your parts.

So either YOU jumped the gun and owe this guy and apology, or he fully intended to take you and only made good because of the help you GOT HERE.

So instead of thanking the guy who probably didnt intend to provide you the parts BASED ON YOUR OWN WORDS AS A RESULT OF YOUR PHONE CONVERSATION; Thank the people on this forum who wasted their time reading your post(s) and providing you information.

Scorp

[MEMRACING62]

this smells :?

[dtperformance]

Well He's posting new adds every day but wont reply to me. I dont need the hood it's just the simple fact it was part of the deal and he told me he shipped it and never did and he wont even respond to my emails or calls and atleast tell me to kiss off. I would have more respect for that.

Im done with it anyway even if he sent me 1000 dollars he's still a peice of SH&T.

[dtperformance]

Just wanted to say still no hood and he wont get back to me. I dont really care and I dont need it or the money but make sure if you deal with this guy you get everything up front. I just wanted to bring this up he has had 5 adds on here in the last 3 weeks.

[wvhippie]

I hate to hear that. He admitted to me that he owed you a hood. Stay after him that is what I had to do. It is not the money or value of the item it is the principle of it. A deal is a deal.

[nova4665]

well i traded a damn good chevy dulley to him for a toter home that was suppose to have been top notched...HA HA !!!!!!!!!!!!!.....well the TV didnt work....DVD didnt work...Microwave didnt work....and all the wireing to the box was cut ....he started the generator ...but it wouldnt start after i got home...and he said ill GET YOU ANOTHER ROOF AIR....HA!!!!!!!!and on top of that it had an OPEN TITLE from the guy he traded with,,,,,after 6mos of work and about 7500.00 dollors i have a toter i can actually trust to pull my trailer....
DEAL WITH HIM AT YOUR OWN RISK

[wvhippie]

Guys I hate to hear more people comming forth with stories about Nick. He made things right with me after I stayed on him. I think that is the key. If he thinks you will just go away he wont make any effort to make things right. Scorp had mentioned earlier that if all you guys get togther you may have a good suite. It sounds like the dollar amount is really getting high. I dont no about KY but here in WV the State Police would definately go after it. Nick if you read this you need to make things right with these guys. I came to your place and meet you. You are a likeable guy. You have a nice wife and young child. These deals will eventually catch up with you. I am shure you wouldnt want that child growing up thinking his dad was a con. All you guys that are owed stay after him. Take the advice given by Scorp and the others on here. They will not lead you wrong. As always if I can help you in any way let me know.

[bowtie4542001]

Wow, I haven't been to this part of the forum in a while, looks like ol Nick is still messing people around. I never did get my money. You can put me on the list for the police to contact if you want. I will be more than happy to sing like a bird :D Hey Nick, I think your day is coming soon.

Chris

[ashbros]

What goes around always comes back around to haunt a scammer. I just hope we all get to hear about it...

[kw89425]

funny he has some thing new to trade just about every week sometimes i see him with new ads a couple of times a week. i went to his house once on a trade all i can say is he will lie to you.

[bowtie4542001]

Nick has got some more ads on RJ, he is selling a 410 sbc and a 4 wheeler. Ad numbers are 1668922 , 1661779 , and 1668927. Please be careful when dealing with this dude.

Chris

[nova4665]

well this SCREWUM ALL a..hole still owes me a roof air and a stereo and microwave for a toterhome i traded for over a year ago....CANT SEEM TO GET A HOLD OF HIM.......he is a sorry a..hole ... DO NOT DEAL WITH HIM :oops:

[BEAST477]

I see the low life was on here checking out his status. Yeah Nick you're still #1 in most peoples book. Would you like to speak up and say otherwise or just hide in the shadows?

[bowtie4542001]

I see the low life was on here checking out his status. Yeah Nick you're still #1 in most peoples book. Would you like to speak up and say otherwise or just hide in the shadows?

He is number one in my book. :twisted: :twisted:

[johnnym]

We need to keep this forum recent so everyone can see just what kind of person Nick Claborn is and hopefully not have any dealings with him. I can't bieleve he has made it this far.

[bowtie4542001]

He had a Grand National on here a few days ago, I wonder who he got this time??

[bowtie4542001]

Ol Nick is at it again, he has ads 170830 and 1708253 a grudge Mustang for sale or trade. Beware.

Chris

[johnnym]

Beware of Nicks new add, Mustang coupe. I bet somethings up. It sounds too good to be true coming from this guy.

[bowtie4542001]

Beware of Nicks new add, Mustang coupe. I bet somethings up. It sounds too good to be true coming from this guy.

I agree, I wonder why he don't sign into the forum and defend himself....wait, I know, he knows his in the wrong. What about it Nick....

[dtperformance]

He's Also trying yellowbullet.com with a new name (fast5)

Yey he still never paid me or gave me my hood even after he said it was in the mail!!!

[bowtie4542001]

He's Also trying yellowbullet.com with a new name (fast5)

Yey he still never paid me or gave me my hood even after he said it was in the mail!!!

Yeah I see that he is trying to get people to call him for trades. What a piece of work.....

[wvhippie]

Some of you guys that are on yellow bullet a lot need to inform the guys over there. I had hoped Nick would get it together but from all the response I guess not.

[dtperformance]

Ad #1712224 his new add

[dtperformance]

Ad #1715399 new add for a camaro

[bowtie4542001]

I swear Nick must have a lot of people working with him. Just found out the engine that was in the Camaro I traded for was Nothing like he nor the engine builder said it was. Now I feel like a bad guy because I passed on to the guy I traded what the engine builder told me. They told me that the engine was fresh, 0 runs, come to find out, number 3 and 5 cylinder has cracks, the pistons are not what they said. I feel like taking a trip to Albany Ky. :evil:

[dtperformance]

If you do could you pick up my hood and send it to me Ill pay the shipping :D

[bowtie4542001]

If you do could you pick up my hood and send it to me Ill pay the shipping :D

Not a problem!!!!! :D

[dtperformance]

Ad #1720868 his new add

[Scorpion1110]

Ad #1720868 his new add

Has anyone taken legal action against him or considered it? Obviously this thread and the forum do not have him scared.

Scorp

[bowtie4542001]

Ad 1733066 is his latest and greatest ad. He is still taking people I guess.

[dtperformance]

Posted on LS1tech, and yellow bullet on this guy STAY CLEAR!!!!!! He has a -3 feedback on ls1tech and only been a member since NOV 2009

[nurkvinny]

Everyone should report his posts to Admins on all the sites he is on. I help moderate a forum, and a proven scammer would be banned in 30 seconds.

[jb1]

Nick,

Still waiting on my shocks, many many phone calls with no answer, no call backs and when he does answer he has no service or phone is cutting out or some kind of excuse.

Thanks alot Nick for being that stand up guy that you kept telling me you were what happened to that?

I really hope you give me my shocks soon I need them for my dirt car first race is in Feb.

Justin

[bowtie4542001]

Hey guys, I emailed Nick yesterday and told him I think everyone has caught onto him and that he would have a hard time selling on RJ anymore. I also told him that he has made a name for himself on other forums as well (such as yellow bullet and ls1). He replied back to me saying that is was all my faught because he was going to send my money and I wanted to start running my mouth, I told him if he sent me the money then I would come on here and let everyone know but I bet that will never happen.............. so I guess if I wouldn't have put the info about Nick on here, all his other trades would have been ok and he would not have scammed anyone else ......................so with that being said............ I am sorry guys, I should have just waited around until Nick could find the time in his busy schedule to mail me my money....

[dtperformance]

Hey guys, I emailed Nick yesterday and told him I think everyone has caught onto him and that he would have a hard time selling on RJ anymore. I also told him that he has made a name for himself on other forums as well (such as yellow bullet and ls1). He replied back to me saying that is was all my faught because he was going to send my money and I wanted to start running my mouth, I told him if he sent me the money then I would come on here and let everyone know but I bet that will never happen.............. so I guess if I wouldn't have put the info about Nick on here, all his other trades would have been ok and he would not have scammed anyone else ......................so with that being said............ I am sorry guys, I should have just waited around until Nick could find the time in his busy schedule to mail me my money....

Really than what did I do not to get my new hood????? He said he had shipped it twice and then nothing after that and he wont reply to anything I send him or to any of these post.

[bowtie4542001]

Hey guys, I emailed Nick yesterday and told him I think everyone has caught onto him and that he would have a hard time selling on RJ anymore. I also told him that he has made a name for himself on other forums as well (such as yellow bullet and ls1). He replied back to me saying that is was all my faught because he was going to send my money and I wanted to start running my mouth, I told him if he sent me the money then I would come on here and let everyone know but I bet that will never happen.............. so I guess if I wouldn't have put the info about Nick on here, all his other trades would have been ok and he would not have scammed anyone else ......................so with that being said............ I am sorry guys, I should have just waited around until Nick could find the time in his busy schedule to mail me my money....

Really than what did I do not to get my new hood????? He said he had shipped it twice and then nothing after that and he wont reply to anything I send him or to any of these post.

I have no ideal, he just blamed everything on me, I laughed at him and told him that his day will come. He told me the same thing about my stuff and that it got sent back to his dads house or something like that and then he said he would send me some money. Never happened. Karma will come around for sure and he will deserve everything he gets

[hollowayshotrods]

Found this on slick nicks profile! Didn't take long for transam4357 to learn the truth.

transam4357 Date Posted: 2009-08-12 15:17:14
great guy to do buisness with . real honest guy. went out of his way to get us a deal on a nice ride. thanks nick.

transam4357 Date Posted: 2009-11-07 15:09:56
actually pretty shady and not a good guy to fuck with

[bowtie4542001]

Looks like ol Nick has scammed another person. I believe he is know using another name as well chevy2fast his new ad 1751323. He even has a different place listed other than Albany Ky. Now is Monticello Ky. I believe the truck looks very familiar might be one of our fellow members on RJ. Just thought I would keep every one posted.

Chris

[johnnym]

I am pretty sure that Chevy2fast is Nick or one of his buddies, cause the cars on the profile are ones that Nick has tried to sell in the past. I emailed chevy2fast and asked he was Nick or if he dealt with him. He has yet to let me know.

[bowtie4542001]

I am pretty sure that Chevy2fast is Nick or one of his buddies, cause the cars on the profile are ones that Nick has tried to sell in the past. I emailed chevy2fast and asked he was Nick or if he dealt with him. He has yet to let me know.

Also if you look, it was the same phone number he was using when he was trading the red Camaro.

[johnnym]

Go to topix.com/albany ky and check out where Nick is getting bashed from his own hometown.

[bowtie4542001]

That is funny as hell right there. Seems like his scamming ways are catching up to him.

Chris

[bowtie4542001]

How many names is Nick going to use, he is going by fastfordracer now.

[johnnym]

Yeah Chevy2fast and Fastfordracer are both Nick Claborn. Using the phone number provided it comes up - Nick Claborn (606) 387-3172 336 Ewing Branch Rd, Albany, KY 42602 -
I just wonder if this loser has all these listings or he is working under someone else? How would someone that can't even wright up an add that is legible have the ability to get the cars he lists?

[johnnym]

Well as of today Nick called and left me a message saying he was sorry and wanted me to call him so we could talk directly and if he owed me anything, he was ready to settle up. So we will see...........

[Scorpion1110]

I know this thread has been around for a while, but I dont think anyone has gone after this guy through the legal system. I wonder why?

This guy is never going to settle up with you unless you take legal action. Posting on this thread is not going to prompt him to do anything.

If he has ripped off such a large group, then gentlemen you need to as a GROUP go to the state prosecutor in his location. Notify the AG as well.

Multiple individual complaints- just updating the thread isnt going to get him to do anything.

If he wanted me to call I'd say cram it and come after him legally- And btw that doesnt mean big attorney dollars. There are many ways that you can legally come after someone without spending a fortune.

Guys if this dude ripped you off- make him squirm. I would.

Remember Mike2124 thought he'd get away with it- and he was WRONG.

Scorp

[bowtie4542001]

Hello everyone, just an update, got a message from Nick today wanting me to call so I did. He stated that he wanted to make it right with everyone and he was going to send me my money. Will keep everyone informed.

Chris

[Scorpion1110]

Hello everyone, just an update, got a message from Nick today wanting me to call so I did. He stated that he wanted to make it right with everyone and he was going to send me my money. Will keep everyone informed.

Chris

Sue him. That will make it right.

Scorp

[bowtie4542001]

Just wanted everyone to know that I received my money from Nick. Came in the mail today.

Chris

[dragonmaster093]

goo to hear

[dtperformance]

Just wanted everyone to know that I received my money from Nick. Came in the mail today.

Chris

Glad you did!!! He wanted me to call him and I told him I was done talking to him as he never wanted to answere the phone or email me back till people really started getting on him. He has got my address and he knows what or how much he owes me so if he wants to send it great but it would only make us even because no matter what it will never make it right!

[dtperformance]

Nick just emailed me and said he was going to ship me the money on the 15th if he does we are even on our deal and Ill post he paid me.

[fla1976]

Nice to hear that it will be made right for you. :D

[bowtie4542001]

Nick just emailed me and said he was going to ship me the money on the 15th if he does we are even on our deal and Ill post he paid me.

That is good to hear.

[Scooterz]

Good deal.... glad to hear you got this settled.

[jayss10]

I WENT AND DID A DEAL WITH NICK, EVERYTHING WENT GOOD I DELV. HE PAID ME GAS ,WHEN I GET THERE WITH MY TRADE HE DOESNT HAVE THE INTERIOR FOR THE MAVERICK I TRADED FOR,SAID HE WOULD MEET ME IN ANDERSON LATER THAT MONTH AND GIVE ME THE STUFF ,AS I WAS LEAVING I NOTICED I FORGOT A SET OF PISTIONS I WAS GETTING IN THE DEAL THERE ALSO,SO CALLED HIM BACK HE SAID HE WOULD BRING THEM TO ANDERSON ALSO,WELL HE DIDNT COME TO ANDERSON ,I CONTACTED HIM SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT STUFF ,HE GOT BACK WITH ME SAID HE WAS SENDING PISTIONS THATS WAS DEC. 12 ,NO PISTIONS OR INTERIOR ,SO MUCH FOR TRUSTING HIS WORD ,WHEN I CAME TO HIM I BROUGHT EVERYTHING ,I WAS A FOOL TO TRUST HIM LESSION LEARNED ,NO MORE TRADING UNLESS EVERYTHING IS THERE....WATCH OUT FOR NICK IS RIGHT ......

[bbchevy]

Jay,
Come-On,not going to say I Told you so,BUT..................................
Gee I NEVER would have Guess this From NICK,I mean........?
Oh'Well,Hope it didnt HURT a Whole Lot?
Later
G :?

[dtperformance]

Im still waiting for my money also. Said he would send it on the 15th.....I tried emailing him to see if he sent it and he has not replied. 8 months later still has not made good on our deal.

[dtperformance]

Ad #1795965 Just wanted to post up his new adds. Once again Nick has not done what he said he would.

[jayss10]

BBCHEVY your right , i know ,he talks a good story and is real nice,just doesnt follow thru,he starts out right ,and i hate to feel like i cant trust anyone,the last deal i did was with a guy named discodan, the deal was on our word ,he is a honest guy ,so i guess i felt there were some honest 1s on here but now i know ,ill never do buss. on trust again, or with nick again, and none of my friends will either ,in fact 1 of my friends was gonna do a deal with him, and i told him the story so he backed out ....

[jayss10]

JUST WANT TO KEEP NICK NEAR THE TOP ,TILL I GET MY STUFF ....

[dtperformance]

Yep he said he would send my money out again on wed and still no money and wont reply again.

[dtperformance]

Brining this ASS CLOWN to the top. Once again no money no returned calls. This guy needs to be stopped!!!!!!!!!!

[dtperformance]

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/102/Chevrolet/post/1807042/SHARP-quot-99-quot-FORD-LIGHTNING-W-MODS.html

His new add for today. Still no money and no reply after saying he had my money order and was sending it out.

[dtperformance]

Watch him for a name change soon he did it on another site to hide again.

He also said to me who is the real idiot him or the people he keeps trading with. He said he must not be that bad if everyone keeps trading with him.

THIS GUY HAS GOT TO BE STOPPED!!!!!! :twisted:

[Scorpion1110]

Watch him for a name change soon he did it on another site to hide again.

He also said to me who is the real idiot him or the people he keeps trading with. He said he must not be that bad if everyone keeps trading with him.

THIS GUY HAS GOT TO BE STOPPED!!!!!! :twisted:

Want to stop him?

LIT-I-GATE. Litigate, sue him. Take action for cryin out loud. I'd guess your posts arent bothering him.

If I was in you shoes by now he would be calling sir and washing my car.

*Go to his States AG.

*Go to local law Enforcement.

*If you cant afford an attorney, then contact the closest university to him.and see if their law teachers might help you gratis. Maybe their students could practice on him.

*Go on the web and get cheap airfare to visit him in person.

*Contact IC3


Take action because "he needs to be stopped with a little devil face isnt scaring him". And bringing this thread to the top repeatedly is making him laugh at you.

Make Nick Claborne squirm; it isnt that hard and you have others who have been scammed.

Look at the Curti post.

I's guess the group of you together would get Law Enforcement's attention for an Internet Scam Ring run by Nick Claborne.

Do you understand what I am trying to say?

Scorp

[Scorpion1110]

Bringing Nick back to the top.

Scorp

[dtperformance]

http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1818306

here is his new add.

[jayss10]

NICK TO THE TOP AGAIN ........

[dtperformance]

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/18/Complete_Race_Cars/post/1822737/03-COBRA-6-SPEED-PRICED-TO-SELL-.html

His new add is up. I still dont know why he has an account with all this BS.

[dtperformance]

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/0/unset/post/1823607/05-GT-MUSTANG-5-SPEED-SHARP-.html

Another new add for today....I cant see how is still a member and allowed to post :?

[quadracer36]

i like how he stated in the ad on the 19th that he wanted to sell so he could upgrade to a newer mustang and what do you know as of the 20th he is selling a 2005 mustang now? isnt that newer?

[gentry20]

Nick scammed me out of over $800 dollers in parts,bought a race car that he claimed was nice and never damaged,frame was scrapped,4 different balljoints,both lower a frames bent,over 70% had to be thrown away. If you happen to get in on the phone he tell you whatever he wants you to hear!!! I sent a man to pick up car and Nick just somehow forgot the extra parts,but his grandma and his dog died and he just forgot. Drove over 2000 miles ,he answered the phone and offered to meet me about 80 miles from Albany on Mon. but never showed,wouldn't answer phone again!!! I have called Kentucky Motor vehicles and turned him in as acting as a dealer without a license. I've turned him in my state to the local police for "THEFT BY DECEPTION"... HEY NICK/PUKE what comes around goes around. (SEE YA AT THE RACETRACK)

[jayss10]

NICK , BACK TO THE TOP, WHERES MY INTERIOR FOR THE MAVERICK AND THE PISTIONS.....HEY DUDE YOUR FAMOUS ,.....

[dtperformance]

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/27/Pro_Street/post/1826201/BUILT-04-MACH-1-MUSTANG-SHARP-.html

His new add for another car!!!!!!

[teamgrt15]

Has this been resolved yet

[dtperformance]

Has this been resolved yet

Not on my end. He says he is going to pay me next week but we will see as Ive heard this before. If he pays ill post it.

[wvhippie]

Ad #1829139 This is Nicks new one. Fastest in the country :P . I wounder what he isnt telling us about it.

[nickstang545]

I live in Albany, ky. and my name is Nick, but im not Nick Claborn. Im afraid if i post anything on here people might think im Nick Claborn lol. I personally dont know the guy, i was just told that he would burn me if i delt with him. I have a old 88 mustang im gonna put up forsale. please dont confuse me with him lol. Because im from the same small town and have the same name. The only way i know nick is that my friends wife cheated on him with Nick Claborn supposedly but who knows lol. I can provide I.D showing im not him lol. Thanks.

[nickstang545]

oh yeah, forgot to mention, you can check me out on bowlinggreenmustangs.com, kystreets.com, and i used to be a part of kentuckymustangs before it went under. Most of these people know me personally on these sites. Thanks. Nick Barber.

[bbchevy]

I live in Albany, ky. and my name is Nick, but im not Nick Claborn. Im afraid if i post anything on here people might think im Nick Claborn lol. I personally dont know the guy, i was just told that he would burn me if i delt with him. I have a old 88 mustang im gonna put up forsale. please dont confuse me with him lol. Because im from the same small town and have the same name. The only way i know nick is that my friends wife cheated on him with Nick Claborn supposedly but who knows lol. I can provide I.D showing im not him lol. Thanks.
FREINDLY Suggestion!
MOVE or Change your Name.or BOTH!
Later
G 8)

[wvhippie]

I would at least post a disclaimer on all my ads. I am not Nick Claborn. You might want to put a pic of your DL on each ad as well. Good Luck!!!

[skankr1]

I live in Albany, ky. and my name is Nick, but im not Nick Claborn. Im aclraid if i post anything on here people might think im Nick Claborn lol. I personally dont know the guy, i was just told that he would burn me if i delt with him. I have a old 88 mustang im gonna put up forsale. please dont confuse me with him lol. Because im from the same small town and have the same name. The only way i know nick is that my friends wife cheated on him with Nick Claborn supposedly but who knows lol. I can provide I.D showing im not him lol. Thanks.

Funny, claborn5 has the same car for sale on corral.net. Bring your car to st louis. I'll give you however much you want for it + the hand of god :lol:

http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1203915

[dtperformance]

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/0/unset/post/1838750/SUPER-NICE-93-NOTCH-331-SHARP.html

Heres his new add for a new car he just got. He keeps saying Im so sorry Im going to pay you and YUP it never comes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[manley]

LOL,,,Wow this is good stuff! The first time I talked to Nick was a couple a years ago, He had a old Nova he was selling, I could tell he didnt know $hit about it or about anything else to do with race cars for that matter and was full of $hit on top of all that! Ive even contacted him about stuff that he has had 4-sale a few other times after that (last time i contacted him was about a year ago)! For some reason he didnt show to much interrest in doing bussiness with me. I just had this feeling he was full off $hit, so I didnt push the deals to much! Wow he is a peice of work it sounds like,,good luck guys!

[nickstang545]

I live in Albany, ky. and my name is Nick, but im not Nick Claborn. Im aclraid if i post anything on here people might think im Nick Claborn lol. I personally dont know the guy, i was just told that he would burn me if i delt with him. I have a old 88 mustang im gonna put up forsale. please dont confuse me with him lol. Because im from the same small town and have the same name. The only way i know nick is that my friends wife supposedly cheated on him with Nick Claborn, supposedly but who knows lol. I can provide I.D showing im not him lol. Thanks.

Funny, claborn5 has the same car for sale on corral.net. Bring your car to st louis. I'll give you however much you want for it + the hand of god :lol:

http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1203915


Let me see the car he has for sale, i bought this car off Chip Avera in Liberty, TN. i traded a Yamaha warrior for it actually. Look on bowlinggreenmustangs.com, kystreets.com, all those people know me. My last name is BARBER. Seriously the only way i know NICK CLABORN is my buddys wife left him for Nick Claborn. I seen them on a harley together yesterday when i was headed to work. I can show you my license if you would like.

[nickstang545]

The link that you just said was the same car i posted is a supecharged 98 GT that used to belong to the Lathems boys. My car is a rust bucket 1988 LX. big difference. Im sure i can never afford the nice things NICK CLABORN has.

[nickstang545]

here is the car i have for sale. Definitely not a supercharged 1998 gt is it?

[gentry20]

back to the top...... I see Nick/FastFordRacer has listed a new car today

[nickstang545]

edited, dont see how this is gonna help you any nick, because you have obviously ripped off several people or this post wouldnt be on here period, but since i didnt know you at the time i will do this because its my fault and i should of never said anything on here period. Talk to me in person if you still have a problem with this, not through a 3rd party. Thanks

[dtperformance]

Scamming azz scared BITCH to the top. If you deal with this guy or his wife since the shop he sells out of and the racingjunk account is in her name YOU ARE CRAZY AND HAVE BEEN TOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dtperformance]

This Crook and his Wife needs to stay on the first page. Its only time before someone finds there new name on here.

[dtperformance]

dirtracing5 heres the crook and his wifes new RJ name.......

[gentry20]

Changed Again!!! Now its racejunkie5

[johnnym]

I think since so many people have been scammed, we should put some money together and law the crap out of the son of a gun. Obviously the odds are against him, but it don't seem to bother him. So lets sue him!

[jayss10]

im up for that , he needs someone to do it, in my case it was word of mouth we did a handshake agreement , but id be there to help and give my version

[dtperformance]

TTT for this crook and his crooked azz wife. They are a great pair and should stay together forever. Great role modles....Keep up the great work!!!!!!!!LOL.....

[bugzzy1]

Maybe they can get adjoining cells!!

[johnnym]

TTT Losers need to stay at the top

[jayss10]

back to top new name, racejunkie5 were watching you

[dtperformance]

Ad #1932270 heres the crooks new add. good luck im sure its everything he says.....LOL

[dtperformance]

Ad #1932265 his other add as he has two differant names..... one for him and one for his crook ass wife.............

[dtperformance]

Ad #1932534 Another new name and new add in one day. New name is pbutler

[hollowayshotrods]

Damn busy scammer this guy is :!:

[dtperformance]

Ad #1935022 The CROOK and his WIFES New adds. They post new ones every day under new names so beware. They will both flat out LIE to you!!!!!!!!!!YOU WILL GET SCREWED SO BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hollowayshotrods]

It's a cryin' shame RJ can't do something about the repeat names. The repeat scammers are so obvious at times, it seems they are sitting next to you. Come on RJ, step up to the plate and try to solve this hot issue!

[dtperformance]

It's a cryin' shame RJ can't do something about the repeat names. The repeat scammers are so obvious at times, it seems they are sitting next to you. Come on RJ, step up to the plate and try to solve this hot issue!

I have reported this guy and his wifes adds to racing junk several times and they do nothing. Hell they dont even respond to me. I guess they get there annual fee so there good.

[hollowayshotrods]

I know what you are saying! I tried to talk to them about Keith Caudill aka traderguy aka rodsrus about his thieving ways..............They weren't interested. I sent Keith an email thru RJ telling him I am not just going to fade away, the only way to make me quit talking about him was to make me whole............The scammer complained to RJ, the Gestapo at RJ actually had the balls to lock me out of my account!! I had to call and be admonished by one of the Hitler boys in the RJ front office for using the RJ email system inappropriately :!: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
What a bunch of lefties at RJ!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

BTW RJ chumps, what about the flag? How come no banner? They won't even answer that!!

[lively]

yes---THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FLAG :lol: :lol: YOU KNOW -THE ONE WITH THE STARS AND STRIPES ON IT :lol: :shock: :lol: :shock: :lol:

NOT THE OBAMANATION FLAG -WITH THE YELLOW STRIPE ON IT :oops: :oops:

[dtperformance]

Ad #1936075 New add new car so I guess people are still dealing with him. They will learn. I cant believe all he has to do is pay me the 300 he owes and call it good. He just told me Sat again he would pay me monday and I just laughed as I new he was full of it but he has the money to go get another car!!!!

[dtperformance]

Ad #1938372 Nick and his Wifes new crap. If you trade or buy from these people YOU ARE A FOOL there is so many people he owes and has flat out lied to it is crazy. Racing Junk does nothing even after there is several claims on him. Atleast the other site told him he could not post any more till he clears this shit up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lakesnake]

he now has a water titled cobra for sell.....

[dtperformance]

HAHAHA......I know someone that called him on the car because they called me to ask about what the deal was with us and he told them the car had minor damage and was a awsome super clean ride.........ANTOHER CRAZY LIE FROM HIM AND HIS WIFE.......LOL

[MEMRACING62]

WOW ALL THAT AND IT CAN SWIM TOO!! :shock: :shock: WHAT A CROOK!! :evil:

[jlpford]

he got me two years ago i,m still waiting on my parts that was suppose to be sent to me i posted about him two years ago, sorry for ur loss something needs to be done with him i agree :twisted:

[ams69]

i am honestly thinking about driving to albany and beating his ass....

[lakesnake]

miles are wrong 2..

[jayss10]

he got you to ams69 sorry to hear that ,he owes me interior and pistions, i told him 350.00 and we were even , he said he would get the items...so guess im waiting ...

[dtperformance]

he now has a water titled cobra for sell.....

Why did you pull the link down with the pics that was some funny stuff there and it shows just what a crook him and his wife is and what they sell. He said super clean wont trade for junk LOL but his car came out of a pond!!!!!!!!!!

[ams69]

99% SURE HIM Ad #1936792

[bbchevy]

he now has a water titled cobra for sell.....

Why did you pull the link down with the pics that was some funny stuff there and it shows just what a crook him and his wife is and what they sell. He said super clean wont trade for junk LOL but his car came out of a pond!!!!!!!!!!
ITS SUPER CLEAN!
The WATER in the Pond,made it that WAY!
What a GUY!
later
G 8)

[dtperformance]

Ad #1941956 Heres the new add from his wifes account. Once again they just keep posting.

[dtperformance]

Ad #1941677 Heres his new one also. Im SURE its everything thing he says and HIM AND HIS wife would never lie to you or rip you off.....LOL good luck CROOKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOUR TIMES COMING!!!!

[johnnym]

TTT for loser Nick

[manley]

ad# 1962025

[manley]

he just called me about my Camaro i got for sale, he's using a different name!

[bbchevy]

he just called me about my Camaro i got for sale, he's using a different name!
Would that name be........?pbutler?
AD#1963074
Dragersters,NICE?Check out the Picture of the Dragster,then Look at the NAME on the Window of the Building(CLABORNS Full SERVICE)You get the FULL Service,with NO LUBE JOB!!!!
This Guys a Real TREAT!
Later
G :shock:

[nova4665]

he just called me about my Camaro i got for sale, he's using a different name!
Would that name be........?pbutler?
AD#1963074
Dragersters,NICE?Check out the Picture of the Dragster,then Look at the NAME on the Window of the Building(CLABORNS Full SERVICE)You get the FULL Service,with NO LUBE JOB!!!!
This Guys a Real TREAT!
Later
G :shock:
you got that right..my ass is still hurting....he got me 2 years ago also....ive given up....once a crook always a crook....nice looking dragster but wouldnt EVEN want to deal with HIM,...

[manley]

he just called me about my Camaro i got for sale, he's using a different name!
Would that name be........?pbutler?
AD#1963074
Dragersters,NICE?Check out the Picture of the Dragster,then Look at the NAME on the Window of the Building(CLABORNS Full SERVICE)You get the FULL Service,with NO LUBE JOB!!!!
This Guys a Real TREAT!
Later
G :shock:
Emod smith I think is the line he gave me.

[gentry20]

Nick back to the top^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I see hes been racin or bringin up the back of the pack at Lake Cumberland Speedway

[dtperformance]

Well after 19 months he paid me half of the money he owed me. He asked me if I would take that and call it even and I felt some was better then never getting any so I said OK and he finally sent me half and I told him Im threw with the issue and would post we are straight so I am!!!!!!

[Harbone]

Looks like Nick has a few more fans!!!

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/1355/Radical_Street_Cars/post/1999847/AD-1999822-BEWARE-.html

[Scorpion1110]

Well after 19 months he paid me half of the money he owed me. He asked me if I would take that and call it even and I felt some was better then never getting any so I said OK and he finally sent me half and I told him Im threw with the issue and would post we are straight so I am!!!!!!

I'd take the money and pull a "Nick Claiborne" on him- Laugh at him, thank him for the contribution and continue to beat his reputation into the ground.

Just saying, paybacks..........................

[Scooterz]

I have to agree on that one; I mean he paid you half. The last thing Nick should be worried about is his accuser's backing off on a post/thread... if I were him, I would invest in some good supplemental insurance... or "life" insurance... maybe both... his reputation is shot anyways.

[gentry20]

Back to the top NICK! I wont forget.

[lakesnake]

http://www.golsn.com/listings/automotive/cars-trucks/passenger_cars/1852711.html

http://www.golsn.com/listings/recreational_vehicles/motorcycles-atvs/motorcycles/1852732.html

http://www.golsn.com/listings/automotive/cars-trucks/passenger_cars/1855961.html

http://www.golsn.com/listings/jewelry-watches/1817950.html

http://www.golsn.com/listings/automotive/cars-trucks/passenger_cars/1852686.html

here is the numbnuts new adds on local sites....... him and his wife still going strong i see!

[gentry20]

New name but is Nicks shop and phone # ??? Could it be the Famous Nick!!
http://www.racingjunk.com/category/66/DIRT_Modifieds/post/2068491/SUPER-NICE-DIRT-WORKS-MODIFIED.html

[liby]

aa

[dtperformance]

I dont see how anyone deals with him. I would think people would learn from the crap the rest of us went threw. I hate to see he got you but he's been out there as a scammer and reported on every day almost on here. RACING JUNK SHOULD BAN HIM BUT WONT OTHER SITES HAVE FOR HIS CRAP!!!!!I HAVE REPORTED HIM, HIS WIFE, AND HIS ADDS TO THEM BUT THEY SAY THEY CANT DO ANYTHING!!!!!!BS......... Hope you get it fixed but unless you go to his house its not going to happen and his wife is just as big a crook as him trust me I know!!!!!!!

[johnnym]

Nicks a crook TTT

[RHarlan]

Nick has a new user name: racejunkie5

[perdue13]

wish all you pussy could bitch about nick. i have know nick all my live he is a good man and if all thank he fuck you bec you did not look at what you was geting than that is all on you

[Harbone]

wish all you P could bitch about nick. i have know nick all my live he is a good man and if all thank he f you bec you did not look at what you was geting than that is all on you

Really, have you read all the crap he has done on here to people? I dont care how long you have known him, he has a seriously bad reputation, not only here but many other websites... :roll:

[oldandtired]

wish all you P could bitch about nick. i have know nick all my live he is a good man and if all thank he f you bec you did not look at what you was geting than that is all on you
Another "Hooked on Phonics" graduate :shock:

[premikiep]

sounds to me that perdue13 is helping him steel from people . I've personally made about 30 calls to people in his town and they all have the same thing to say about him.And I quote I hope you didn't do any trading with him he is a huge lyer. that includes his good freind that runs a radio station down there and other shop owners and racer . It sounds like a little street justice is in order . nick step up or you will get knocked down