my Huntsville engine blew up, then they ducked my calls!

[fastfaster]

huntsville engine is terrible. my $25,000.00 engine blew up after very few passes. that's bad enough but whats worse is they kept ducking my phone calls. i regret owning anything huntsville engine builds

[hammertime]

huntsville engine is terrible. my $25,000.00 engine blew up after very few passes. that's bad enough but whats worse is they kept ducking my phone calls. i regret owning anything huntsville engine builds

you are talking to the wrong person there must be. very good engine company that sponsors some good races. They have a lot of good motors out there, talk to Todd Ewing.

[sgchevy2nova]

i agree with hammertime every time i call over there i talk to Todd Ewing and he's been great to deal with

[fastfaster]

then something is very different now at Huntsville engine. as the economy gets worse, the more the truth of a company comes out.
as far as todd ewing, he offered the most preposterous excuses as to why a young engine would blow up. then he was always unavailable for my calls, not unlike an ostrich.
i have had great success with other engine companies since leaving huntsville engine forever.

[hammertime]

then something is very different now at Huntsville engine. as the economy gets worse, the more the truth of a company comes out.
as far as todd ewing, he offered the most preposterous excuses as to why a young engine would blow up. then he was always unavailable for my calls, not unlike an ostrich.
i have had great success with other engine companies since leaving huntsville engine forever.

Please Explain what happened to the motor to cause it to break ?

Todd is a good guy and I am sure they arent ducking calls. I've been down this road with a new motor, they are race motors if they break they break. Schmidt is the only motor shop I know that offers a warranty. There is way to many what if's for a motor shop to redo a motor that broke, unless it broke on the dyno.

[fastfaster]

Hammertime SAID: "Todd is a good guy and I am sure they arent ducking calls"

in your attempt to defend huntsville engine you have not considered the possibility that when i called huntsville engine each and every time using my name and asking for todd, they put me on hold and came back to the phone claiming he was not available so i immediately called back and used a different name and only then did todd pick up the phone.
avoiding a customer phone calls is not the sign of a good guy and a reputable engine shop.

[sc2265]

ive never heard of nothing like this from huntsville ive used them forever and never have any issues and they are racer freindly i think u need to call todd again and figure this out im sure if u would go about right then he will help u , they way u bashing him i doubt he will even help

[hammertime]

Hammertime SAID: "Todd is a good guy and I am sure they arent ducking calls"

in your attempt to defend huntsville engine you have not considered the possibility that when i called huntsville engine each and every time using my name and asking for todd, they put me on hold and came back to the phone claiming he was not available so i immediately called back and used a different name and only then did todd pick up the phone.
avoiding a customer phone calls is not the sign of a good guy and a reputable engine shop.

Maybe they are then ..

I'll ask again what broke on the motor and how many passes are on it ?

I'll also add again motors do NOT come with a warranty just how it is.

[shawnp]

avoiding a customer phone calls is not the sign of a good guy and a reputable engine shop.

And avoiding to answer questions or provide details about your situation sure is not helping your cause at all, either.


SP... Fact or Fiction??? No Facts so far.

[lively]

ANOTHER POSTER WITHOUT -ANY FACTS LISTED--- :oops: :oops: -------EXPLAIN THE DEAL/ DAMAGE/ THE REASON YOU THINK THIS HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!THEIR ARE GUYS ON HERE THAT CAN AND WILL HELP YOU IF THEY FEEL YOU HAVE BEEN WRONGED :P :P -BUT-THEY WILL NOT AND CAN NOT DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE FACTS TO CHECK OUT :evil: :evil: :evil: -NO FACTS NO HELP 8) 8)
LIVELY

[bjuice]

Hey Guys have you thought that this man (fastfaster) may be telling you the truth here ?

i do not think there has been enough information shared here for any opinions to be formed for either side...i agree someone's past history dictates what they might do in the future ( huntsvilles good past reputation)..but its far from Fool proof they cannot drop the ball..

i am just playing the devils advocate here so that all sides gets fair shake.

those of you that know Todd as well as you say..then you may want to give him a call and tell him to post his side of the story.
now fastfaster if you want to argue your case on here you need to tell us what happened to your engine , for all we know Todd could be avoiding your calls for a reason, to the tune of maybe he has told you its not their problem you didn't put oil in it or something of that nature...

again just playing devils advocate...we need more info here guys .

i can remember something simliar to this situation posted a few weeks back and the accused engine builder started posting invoices etc..and as far as i am concerned he shut the books on that tall tale...

Brian

[mopar1968]

I agree brian, BUT there is a reason he is not answering the question, of how many run's and what happened to it!!! :? :?

[hammertime]

Hey Guys have you thought that this man (fastfaster) may be telling you the truth here ?

i do not think there has been enough information shared here for any opinions to be formed for either side...i agree someone's past history dictates what they might do in the future ( huntsvilles good past reputation)..but its far from Fool proof they cannot drop the ball..

i am just playing the devils advocate here so that all sides gets fair shake.

those of you that know Todd as well as you say..then you may want to give him a call and tell him to post his side of the story.
now fastfaster if you want to argue your case on here you need to tell us what happened to your engine , for all we know Todd could be avoiding your calls for a reason, to the tune of maybe he has told you its not their problem you didn't put oil in it or something of that nature...

again just playing devils advocate...we need more info here guys .

i can remember something simliar to this situation posted a few weeks back and the accused engine builder started posting invoices etc..and as far as i am concerned he shut the books on that tall tale...

Brian

I also was only trying to find out the details, thats why I asked if he had talked to Todd and what actually happened to the motor and the amount of passes it had on it when it broke ?

[bjuice]

yeah i know hammer..its just stinking right now if no-one can anti up any more information on the subject..

i will now say the orginatter of this post has been told...i rest my case 8)

[hammertime]

yeah i know hammer..its just stinking right now if no-one can anti up any more information on the subject..

i will now say the orginatter of this post has been told...i rest my case 8)


Still no one antis up any info :?:

[mytmouz]

i have had great success with other engine companies since leaving huntsville engine forever.

How long ago was this?

[fast72buick]

Like Hammer said, Engines fail and there's not many if any that warranty a race engine, I've ran stuff that should have never ran as fast as it did for as long as it did/Never failed, And Iv'e ran stuff with overkill components that you'd think would last and was junk in less then a 100 runs.
Even "IF" a engine builder warrants there engines component failure is excluded, I can mention one very faimiliar engine builder who's engine didn't even make a pass/rocker-arm broke in it & debris went through motor eating up the crank,so-on, Customer was told to call the manufacturer of the rockers (Crane golds) they sent him a two new sets of Crane rockers, He purchased two of these engines (540's) at the sametime so Crane gave him two new sets as they just made a Improvement on them going to a larger fulcrum, In other words they new they posed a problem, I have no problem mentioning Cranes name as it was total B.S. how they handled this matter :twisted:
Owner never Installed the One 540, Had the other one fixed and sold both of them as he was not too happy with the engine builder neither even though it was not there fault, Engine builder can only be at fault by throwing a engine together with wrong clearances,poor machining,Improper torqueing,etc. eveything else (maintenace is up to owner) Part failure has nothing to do with a engine builder regardless of runtime.
On a sidenote I'll never run Crane rockers nor roller lifters, Samething happened with a friends 427, freshened his 4 season old engine with Crane solid rollers after having no issues with his Huggins lifters, Warming engine up to break it in,Lifter broke taking out the cam and engine needing tore down for removle of debris.
I myself have also had 2 Crane solid flat tappets fail within the last 5yrs. one during break-in the other after 3 weekends of racing, I've run Bullet,Comp,Lunati and not one single issue to date.

[fla1976]

I had a TCI tranmission fail on it's fourth pass. I called TCI and they said they couldn't be sure that I hadn't blown the engine and took out the transmission. They said I could ship it back and if it wasn't my fault they'd repair it free, but I'd have to pay the shipping. I had a local builder check it and he said it was the front pump. Said it was just a defective part, the outer gear broke into three pieces. Repaired it and I never had another problem. I will never buy another transmission from them again though because of the attitude they presented. They were sure that I had installed it wrong or blew the engine and took out the tranny. Even though it was not their problem because the part must have been cracked from the start. Otherwise it is a good tranny, customer service is just as important as a good product.

[bjuice]

Like Hammer said, Engines fail and there's not many if any that warranty a race engine, I've ran stuff that should have never ran as fast as it did for as long as it did/Never failed, And Iv'e ran stuff with overkill components that you'd think would last and was junk in less then a 100 runs.
Even "IF" a engine builder warrants there engines component failure is excluded, I can mention one very faimiliar engine builder who's engine didn't even make a pass/rocker-arm broke in it & debris went through motor eating up the crank,so-on, Customer was told to call the manufacturer of the rockers (Crane golds) they sent him a two new sets of Crane rockers, He purchased two of these engines (540's) at the sametime so Crane gave him two new sets as they just made a Improvement on them going to a larger fulcrum, In other words they new they posed a problem, I have no problem mentioning Cranes name as it was total B.S. how they handled this matter :twisted:
Owner never Installed the One 540, Had the other one fixed and sold both of them as he was not too happy with the engine builder neither even though it was not there fault, Engine builder can only be at fault by throwing a engine together with wrong clearances,poor machining,Improper torqueing,etc. eveything else (maintenace is up to owner) Part failure has nothing to do with a engine builder regardless of runtime.
On a sidenote I'll never run Crane rockers nor roller lifters, Samething happened with a friends 427, freshened his 4 season old engine with Crane solid rollers after having no issues with his Huggins lifters, Warming engine up to break it in,Lifter broke taking out the cam and engine needing tore down for removle of debris.
I myself have also had 2 Crane solid flat tappets fail within the last 5yrs. one during break-in the other after 3 weekends of racing, I've run Bullet,Comp,Lunati and not one single issue to date.


i hear ya and agree with a-lot with what your saying mostly pertaining to the warranty part of it....not trying to divert the thread ( cause i do not think either party is gonna post up ) so here goes

i just want to let you know i broke A Lifter this past March, wiped out block and camshaft,pushrod....(saved rockers)......Just to let you know the lifters were Lunati as well as the cam.

so..i don't buy in 100% cranes stuff is bad..and i am real sure if we somehow could hear from every person that has a lifter or rocker arm failure i am sure the other brands would have their time in the hat as well.i Know many racers including myself that run Crane Golds and/or Crane lifters with no issues..

Hey is all made of Metal. its High performance, and all of it can and will break.

of course like most peoples post this is only My opinion
based around my personal experience :D
Brian

[farrigno]

i think everybody is getting off the beatin path here, it would be nice if fastfaster would get on here and say his peace, not choosing sides here but i don't like the part of the call ducking by huntsville engines,sounds lame to me,then again i don't know the whole story...my 02 :wink:

[bjuice]

I hear ya Ferringo and thats normally some Real good advise your giving. (seriously).But until fastfaster post some detailed information we have (all) ask him to do..or a REP from Hunstville Engines gets on here and tells their Side.The THREAD is DEAD and in IMO not worth speaking about any longer..so we might as well talk about something useful. :roll:

But One more time i will request that fastfaster get back on here and give some details ( or retract his statement) or someone who Knows Todd From Hunstville call him and tell him to get on here and tell his side...

If anyone can get one or the other accomplished that would be Great..

otherwise i have some Broke Lunati lifters for sale if anyone wants them. :D

[fla1976]

HOW MUCH? ARE THEY SHOW QUALITY?

[I972Nova]

I would buy your broke Lunati lifters, but I already have some. Mine hit the block and broke 5 lifters before it ever went to the track. Way to go engine builder... I never saw a penny on that even though he was clearly to blame...

I want to feel bad for this guy, but I just dont have enough details to do that...

[bjuice]

HOW MUCH? ARE THEY SHOW QUALITY?

LOL...ABSOLUTLEY !..I show them to everyone that comes to my place... :shock: :D

[mopar1968]

You know i really don't understand some of these idiot's, A race engine builder that put's a warranty on a race engine is just asking for trouble to my knowledge no builder, engine tran's etc, put's a warranty on them, because of the abuse, Mister/Madam if you think a builder should have a warranty then you might consider getting out of racing.



MY TWO CENT'S WORTH!!!!!!

[hammertime]

You know i really don't understand some of these idiot's, A race engine builder that put's a warranty on a race engine is just asking for trouble to my knowledge no builder, engine tran's etc, put's a warranty on them, because of the abuse, Mister/Madam if you think a builder should have a warranty then you might consider getting out of racing.



MY TWO CENT'S WORTH!!!!!!


Couldnt agree more

Steve Schmidt did put a warranty on his motors 1 year. Not sure if he still does .. just to many what ifs or lack of maitenace on motors.

[Pwmax]

If you look into detail on those warrenties, most are a insurance policy, that a seperate company writes for said company, and, there are stipulations a mile long. Plus, it only covers a percentage of the original purchase price. For exapmple, the policy will cover up to say $4000 or $6000. If they can FIX your engine for that much, as long as the claim is approved, then your good to go. If not, then, there is gray area, and it would be up to the engine shop to eat any additional money involved. And trust me, YOU the customer, are paying for this warrenty/insurance policy. Not the shop.

I think to many guys think that warrenty means, I can beat the living death out of my new engine, and, if it blows up, I call up said engine shop, and they say, " Oh shoot, you broke her huh? Ok, we will ship you a new one, have a nice day". NOT. Most times, its simply a meaningless, worthless empty promise, used as a marketing ploy, to get you to go to them, instead of somewhere else. One of the biggest jokes in engine warrenties, is the GM crate engine warrenty. Good luck getting anything out of them.

[Scooterz]

AMEN BRUTHAS...

Fastfaster... what is up? no DETAILS...plead your case man. The longer you avoid the question, the more you look like your trying to hide something. There is something missing here... did you spin a bearing? What HAPPEND????

[nova72]

why is the whole story not being told here? what happened to the motor?

[Scorpion1110]

why is the whole story not being told here? what happened to the motor?

If I were going to guess; I'd say that the Engine Company and the Complainer had a little offline chat, and neither wants to have anything else said.

Thats what typically seems to go on with suddenly dropped threads; or at least those that started like this one.

What might we deduce? Perhaps some shared blame.

Later,

Scorp

[FullTimeRacing]

FASTFASTER is just mad.he is a newbe hear,has not replied in 24 days and never said why the motor broke. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[lively]

BUT----IF YOU CAN NOT GIVE THE FACTS AND WHOLE STORY THEN DO NOT COME HERE AND SPREAD -WHAT COULD BE CONSIDERED LIES ABOUT SOMEONE :evil: :evil:

ALL WE WANT ARE THE FACTS AND TRUE SIDES OF THE STORY SO WE MIGHT HELP OUT SOMEONE ELSE AND MAYBE GET SOMETHING SOLVED 8) 8)
ALSO AN ANSWER BACK ON ???? ASKED WOULD SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR THIS FORUM :roll: :roll:
WAS THAT TOO STRONG GUYS :? :shock: OH WELL
LIVELY

[billhendren]

You know i really don't understand some of these idiot's, A race engine builder that put's a warranty on a race engine is just asking for trouble to my knowledge no builder, engine tran's etc, put's a warranty on them, because of the abuse, Mister/Madam if you think a builder should have a warranty then you might consider getting out of racing.



MY TWO CENT'S WORTH!!!!!!

My shop handles problems on a case by case basis. as an example if we dyno an engine and the customer is satisfied with it,but comes back a week or two later with a burned piston because of a plugged fuel filter,poor fuel etc we always repair the engine at cost. same thing if a rocker or valve spring breaks. we do this because we value our customers and know that the good word doesn't spread as fast as the bad word.
An example of the worst case scenario,last year we built an all aluminum circle track engine using our normal top of the line components the rods were made from 300M with ARP 2000 bolts which we hadn't had any problems with.
The engine ran great on the dyno but kicked a rod out of the pan during its first race. when we disassembled the engine it was obvious one of the 2000 bolts had broken because other than being bent the bearings were perfect. In this case we chose to 100% warranty the engine.ARP sent a form letter [as the rod manufacture said they would] stating that there was no problem with the rod bolt,that my engine assembly guy didn't stretch the bolt far enough.They sent me a complete new set of 2000 bolts and we replaced all of them. this time I stretched the rod bolts and had my assembly guy and the engine owner watching.
After assembly the engine went on the dyno and on the third pull kicked out another rod.same exact problem and full warranty #2
Engine went together the next time with Custom age 325 bolts for an additional $400.00 and is still running today.
The two engines cost me over $8000.00 ea to warranty but in the
time from then to now that customer has referred 11 other racers to me in addition to bringing me his other two engines to rebuild.
Bottom line is most reputable engine builders that I know will go out of there way to help a customer if something breaks because its the rite thing to do and in the long run will pay back big benefits. Bill

[lively]

WELL SAID-BILL 8) 8) 8)
LIVELY

[undertaker598]

I bet faster faster blew the engine up cause of his own damn fault. That's why he fell off the thread. Start shit and didn't finish.

[mopar1968]

I think you are right ''undertaker'' what it sounds like to me''





''JUST MY TWO CENTS WORTH''

[fivestageford]

Always sucks to hear about someone breaking anything(other than records) but that's just the nature of the beast! Personally i've always been a bit skeptical of crate engines from these companies such as Huntsville cause like most "mass" production companies quantity is usually more important than quality. Not saying they haven't built any "good" engines, just nothing great! Truth be told I haven't seen ANYTHING from Huntsville(or any company like them for that matter) that's REALLY worth anything. The stuff you get from people like Huntsville MIGHT be "OK" for a bracket car but too me bracket racing isn't racing. To be honest unless the engine builders initials are LGF, R/M, B.Jenks., JK, BAE, or SP chances are YOU'VE GOT A PILE OF SH*T!

[hollowayshotrods]

Always sucks to hear about someone breaking anything(other than records) but that's just the nature of the beast! Personally i've always been a bit skeptical of crate engines from these companies such as Huntsville cause like most "mass" production companies quantity is usually more important than quality. Not saying they haven't built any "good" engines, just nothing great! Truth be told I haven't seen ANYTHING from Huntsville(or any company like them for that matter) that's REALLY worth anything. The stuff you get from people like Huntsville MIGHT be "OK" for a bracket car but too me bracket racing isn't racing. To be honest unless the engine builders initials are LGF, R/M, B.Jenks., JK, BAE, or SP chances are YOU'VE GOT A PILE OF SH*T!

Jeeeeeez. Nice first post!! Which one of these big time engine builders do you work for? Only 6 people in the world know how to build engines that are quality and nearly bulletproof? Really, have another cup of joe, an extra doughnut while you consider editing your post to something believable.
BTW, I doubt Nyes, Murray, Hendrens and all the other "top notch" builders will forgive your silly slip of the tongue. Just my thoughts this morning, as I drink my coffee and eat my doughnuts.

Also, to all you bracket racers- maybe you should move on up since fivestageford let you know that "bracket racing isn't racing".

Another BTW, if you are who I think you are fivestarford, I wouldn't start questionong ANYONES credibility. :oops:

[john858]

well said holloway,another thought ;someone that can't catch a light, drive the big end or has never bracket raced almost always talks crap. jmo

[mopar1968]

Rudy Rudy he is a bench racer :!: :!: He need's to put his own money in a car and try it before putting it down :!: :!: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[hammertime]

Always sucks to hear about someone breaking anything(other than records) but that's just the nature of the beast! Personally i've always been a bit skeptical of crate engines from these companies such as Huntsville cause like most "mass" production companies quantity is usually more important than quality. Not saying they haven't built any "good" engines, just nothing great! Truth be told I haven't seen ANYTHING from Huntsville(or any company like them for that matter) that's REALLY worth anything. The stuff you get from people like Huntsville MIGHT be "OK" for a bracket car but too me bracket racing isn't racing. To be honest unless the engine builders initials are LGF, R/M, B.Jenks., JK, BAE, or SP chances are YOU'VE GOT A PILE OF SH*T!

Bracket racing isnt racing ... you have a clue dont ya :roll:

RM is no different then Huntsville all these places build what you would call a crate motor just basic parts that makes good tq/hp and they all build custom built motors to the customers specs. Fact is I want someone who builds these quote on quote crate motors because they last 100's of passes without doing nothing but oil changes and checking lash. Of course I am a bracket racer and not a real racer so what do I know :!:

[hollowayshotrods]

Always sucks to hear about someone breaking anything(other than records) but that's just the nature of the beast! Personally i've always been a bit skeptical of crate engines from these companies such as Huntsville cause like most "mass" production companies quantity is usually more important than quality. Not saying they haven't built any "good" engines, just nothing great! Truth be told I haven't seen ANYTHING from Huntsville(or any company like them for that matter) that's REALLY worth anything. The stuff you get from people like Huntsville MIGHT be "OK" for a bracket car but too me bracket racing isn't racing. To be honest unless the engine builders initials are LGF, R/M, B.Jenks., JK, BAE, or SP chances are YOU'VE GOT A PILE OF SH*T!

Bracket racing isnt racing ... you have a clue dont ya :roll:

RM is no different then Huntsville all these places build what you would call a crate motor just basic parts that makes good tq/hp and they all build custom built motors to the customers specs. Fact is I want someone who builds these quote on quote crate motors because they last 100's of passes without doing nothing but oil changes and checking lash. Of course I am a bracket racer and not a real racer so what do I know :!:

Right on Dave! Am I mistaken or didn't fivestarfords' name come up in a scammer thread someone posted? I may be mistaken, but I don't think so. I edited so I could add this, not remove anything. I tried to pull his name up under "search profiles", nothing came up. Could he have changed his name again?

[hammertime]

The only five I come up with is fivestarcars doubt its him. Just think its a heads up racer ( can tell by the talk and engine builders he named off) bashing on bracket racers. Dont see me bashing on heads up guys do ya ??? He should remember he is on a "racing" forum and we welcome, racers of all kind on here. :lol:

[Scooterz]

Well said everyone. I will be the first to admit that I am not an expert as i am learning more & more from people like you. I have only been down the track a few times... worked on my car FAR more than I will ever drive it! Weather you are new to racing our an expert, I think the same principals should apply... & like I said before, PLEAD YOUR WHOLE CASE. Otherwise, it is probably not the builders fault. I have only truley destroyed one HP engine... "excessive RPM" spun a bearing & some other damage too. IT WAS MY FAULT!! Case & point: don't blame others unless you can back up your story!! Why try to attack someones integrity if you can't even tell the whole story... not cool. JMO- Rigsby AKA Scooter

[fivestageford]

"nice first post" I like to make an entrance! "which of these builders do you work for" LOL Last time I checked purchasing an engine means THEY are working for you. "Only 6 people in the world know how to build bullet proof engines" Yes sir, give or take. I throw in BG too but like I said before a "good" engine most anyone can build, just not a "great" one. "edit your post to something believable" So you're saying someone like LGF don't build better motors than people such as Huntsville? Talk about a "silly slip of the tongue"! I'm doubting the TRUE "top notch" builders will forgive YOU! LMAO! Guess i'll just have to buy a REAL engine from a proven name like LGF or RM, real bummer lol! "Bracket Racing isn't racing" I wouldn't call losing for going faster racing??? You do??? "Eat my donuts" Quit that before you SH*T yourself!

[fivestageford]

"can't catch a light, drive the big end, or has never bracket raced" ROFLMAO! .500 lights are for ameteurs and a bracket "racer"(or anything bracket "racing" for that matter) driving the big end gets me about as excited as having a wedgie. JMO!

[TheYellaBrick]

Is this guy related to Hilldo ?

[fivestageford]

"he's a bench racer" Hmm I SERIOUSLY doubt that but I see YOU are on the forum too??? "put his own money in a car" LOL i've probably forgot about more cars than you'll ever have! Now go play with your matchbox!

[TheYellaBrick]

He IS related to Hilldo !! my, my such a potty mouth.......

[sc2265]

i bracket race every weekend.. ive probally won more money in 1 day of racing than u have your whole life racing ...and my car is equiped with a HUNTSVILLE engine and will always have a huntsville engine ..fixn to order me a new 565 from them in the next week or so..

[fivestageford]

"bracket racing ins't racing...you have a clue don't ya" Sure do! I know a bunch of BS when I see it! "RM is no different than Huntsville" LMFAO! Don't be silly! "I am a bracket racer and not a real racer so what do I know" FIRST thing I heard you say that makes sense!

[fivestageford]

"Fivestarsford" ROFLMAO! IT'S fiveSTAGE. Learn how to read! "didn't fivestars(lol) name come up in a scammer forum" PUHLEASE SON! YOU don't have to lie to make friends! "could he have changed his name again" How does "GET OFF MY NUTZ" sound for a name?

[fivestageford]

"don't see me bashing heads up guys" LOL You do realize how STUPID that sounds?? I mean especially because most bracket racers DREAM of making it in the heads up world.

[hammertime]

yawn yawn yawn ....

dont bring this crap here we dont need it or want it .. :!:

[TheYellaBrick]

By GAWD, I KNOW he's Hilldo's twin brother !!
Same potty mouth, same false ego, same outlandish stories, same anger at being so alone in this cruel world........He needs his own thread as well. Then he can potty mouth and brag all he likes with no one to 'offeeeeeend ' him......

[bjuice]

FivestageFord.

I have been a heads up racer all my life so does my family and some very close friends..i have owned door cars capable of lower 4 second 1/8 mile et's.dragsters capable of 3.90 et's as well as 7.50 et's street and strip cars....No expense or quality spared. ( no secret to anyone on this site)..

Now let me be perfectly clear in what i am about to say here..I personally care nothing for Bracket racing watching or competing..but I WILL NOT go as far to say this guys are not racers nor is the sport racing or competitve

These bracket guys have done got so techinal about their sport its actually tougher to win a MAJOR bracket race than most heads up and/or index racing. ONLY GOD kNOWS THE MONEY SOME OF THESE TOP TEAMS HAVE INVESTED IN THEIR SETS UPS THAT COMPETE PROFESSIONALY AS BRACKET RACERS.

Bracket racing is competitive as any event out there...Is it my style or taste of Motor sports racing ?...NO....

but rest assure its racing and the Guys doing it and winning could compete on heads up levels..No doubt in my mind...

You are entitled to your opinion thats why we have this forum..but i will be the 1st HEADS UP RACER TO (another) YOU ..your wrong about bracket racing and racers....

Also nothing wrong with a 1,000 hp crate engine either.. :D

[mopar1968]

'' fivestageford'' What about a sonny's engine?

[lively]

MY MY MY ---WHAT HAVE WE GOT HERE???? :cry: :cry:
I HAVE RACED BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE[BRACKET /NO BRACKET] I PREFER ALL OUT -JUST FUNNY THAT WAY
I RESPECT A TRUE ' HONEST 'BRACKET RACE[NO SLIDE THRU THE FINISH LIGHTS WITH THE WHEELS LOCKED UP :shock: :shock: :shock:

I AGREE WITH BRIAN 100% ON HIS OPINION OF THIS

FivestageFord.---YOU HAVE A TERRIBLE ATTITUDE / YOU MOUTH IS CORRUPT[ NOT NECESSARY AT ALL] YOU ACT LIKE YOU KNOW IT ALL TO THESE GUYS ON HERE--BUT---NO ONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT YOU--DO YOU HAVE A PROFILE FILLED OUT /IS YOUR LOCATION ON THE FORUM TO SEE/CAN YOU BACK UP YOUR RANTING WITH REAL PICS OF YOUR REAL CAR[S]/ ARE YOU OLD ENOUGH TO BE TELLING ALOT OF US HOW STUPID WE ARE??? 8) :lol: 8) :lol: 8) :lol:

I THINK YOU NEED TO PUT MORE INFO ON HERE BEFORE YOU SINK YOURSELF DEEPER :oops: I CAN GET ALONG WITH MOST EVERYBODY[ALMOST]IF THEY WILL BE HONEST AND TRUE ABOUT WHO AND WHAT THEY REALLY ARE :shock: :shock: :shock: CAN YOU???

LIVELY

[Scooterz]

"FiveStarford"

A touch of humility would serve you well. JMO

[TheYellaBrick]

humility

Pronunciation:
\hyü-ˈmi-lə-tē, yü-\
Function:
noun
Date:
14th century

: the quality or state of being humble

See, we're willing to heeeeeelp you become a better more socially acceptable person.....
:D

[hollowayshotrods]

"Fivestarsford" ROFLMAO! IT'S fiveSTAGE. Learn how to read! "didn't fivestars(lol) name come up in a scammer forum" PUHLEASE SON! YOU don't have to lie to make friends! "could he have changed his name again" How does "GET OFF MY NUTZ" sound for a name?

No matter what the name is is is STILL JUST A FORD!! "Get off my nutz"!! You gotta grow some for someone to be on them, now go sit on your little bench and watch as your crew trailers you for the next race. I apologize for mistaking you for ANOTHER loser we know on here, my bad. Post up some pictures of your turtlemobiles, if you can get them outa their shells.
Later

[Scooterz]

Look, I agree w/ lively too... but rather he (fivestageford) is the king of kings or not, all knowing/all powerful, "a racing expert in all areas", etc... that is harsh to come on here & try to put the smack down on these people... why not talk with some HUMILITY & be polite. In all honesty, he probably knows alot more than I, but WHO CARES WHEN ARROGANCE BLEEDS FROM ONES ENTIRE CHARACTER. Fivestagestarford, chill out, we know you are important... based on how you talk to people, we are in complete AWE of your knowledge of everything. Say no more, we bow down to you O' great one... NOT.

[Scorpion1110]

Gentlemen:

New poster. No profile. No location. This forum has been through that drill before. I believe it was Tod74 who posted about trolling. Public boards will always get posters who are provocative for their own amusement.

According to Wiki:

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion

The key is to provoke someone to the point that they get angry and highly emotional.

So he doesnt have respect for bracket racing- Do you think there are bracket racers out there who actually care what Fivestageford thinks?

And at the end of the day, guys do you?

Scorp

[suicidebomb]

NO

[fla1976]

No.

[mopar1968]

NO







''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

[hollowayshotrods]

No

[TheYellaBrick]

I'm not a bracketeer and I don't even give a rats patooty...He's dissing my friends unnecessarily....not kooool foool.
I STILL claim he's a Hilldo

[gsforless]

Where do ya suppose the name "fivestageford" came from?Ya reckon he had to stage the damn thing five times before he got it to run enuff to make a complete pass? :wink:

[Scooterz]

LOL... sick em'... big talk, no walk.

[hollowayshotrods]

Where do ya suppose the name "fivestageford" came from?Ya reckon he had to stage the damn thing five times before he got it to run enuff to make a complete pass? :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yep, very likely, it is a Ford you know.......sorry lively :lol: :lol: :lol:

[john858]

yawn yawn yawn ....

dont bring this crap here we dont need it or want it .. :!:

2x

[mopar1968]

x3 :x :x

[RonOwensRacing]

Look who else bought from them.

http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1423725/665cid-Huntsville-BB-Chevy-All-Aluminum.html

[BEAST477]

Must be they saw the first post and want to get rid of it before it BLOWS UP too. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[vincef]

The irony in Jegs advertisement + no honor payments....

665cid Huntsville BB-Chevy
~ All Aluminum
~ Dry Sump
~ Brand new, never ran

Please contact Mike for dyno sheet more info.

Doesn't a engine have to run to produce a meaningful dyno sheet? :lol:

[boostedradial]

I do not necesarily agree with how 5stages comes off but I gotta admit he IS CORRECT on ALL accounts. Case in point is Jeg SELLING a new motor and NOT keeping it. NOBODY can deny the implications! I hate a cocky SOB as much as the next person but when you are right your right!

[hollowayshotrods]

I do not necesarily agree with how 5stages comes off but I gotta admit he IS CORRECT on ALL accounts. Case in point is Jeg SELLING a new motor and NOT keeping it. NOBODY can deny the implications! I hate a cocky SOB as much as the next person but when you are right your right!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: