Buyer Beware: John Albarado aka redcamaro572

[kingjr]

Buyer Beware: John Albarado aka redcamaro572
rifpff artist

from 3002 Great Valley Dr, Cedar Park TX, 78613
I sent check for parts on 8/20/08 and never received them. He changed our UPS shipping agreement and sent them USPS with NO insurance or tracking. Now he refuses to refund my money. BUYER BEWARE - do not buy parts from this guy.

ad # 1291823

[topsportsman1]

I sent a message to John to come in here and clear things up

http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1291823/Hughes-pro-race-and-street-strip-converters.html


Tom

[supergass]

Hey, I sent him a message too, I told him that if he has not made this right he will catch it from alot of people!; I hate thieves! If you give him some time to make it right and he dont........give out his phone number and personal address! Be relentless!

[boonesracing]

make sure you stay with this!

[kingjr]

Here is the whole transaction minus a couple of telephone calls after approximately 1 month. I sent him a letter stating my legal intentions if not repaid the money by 10/4/08, he did not.

Scroll to the bottom and work your way up.

What do you mean wayne I told you everything i know to do and have returned evey phone call,e-mail and on racing junk.and now you still YOU dont under stand whats happening,Whats not helpping is YOU,Telling me these lies does not set well with me.I have never stole from any one or lied about anything and my credit is very good,I have my proof that your parts have been mailed,and have told/showen you this.I think you have a problem on your end,Ether with your posts office and/or you got the converterand /or a pick up slip and some stole it from you.and now some thief has it in your area,GOOD LUCK.BTW i do have prof of it being mailed out so,I will Talk to my lawer sence you sound like this is were this is going.BTW the shoe has been on my foot thats why i use Pay pal like i wanted you to do in the first place.But you must have credit prob from not paying your bills.Have a good day. JOHN ALBARADO

On [2008-09-21 17:35:38] kingjr wrote:
> Not calling me back and not responding to my messages is not helping this matter and makes me feel you were out to rip me off all along. Put yourself in my shoes John, $366 and nothing to show for it except somebody telling me it went out????????? You have showm me absolutely no proof and/or any reason to belief you are nothing but a petty thief.
>
> On [2008-09-18 11:10:59] redcamaro572 wrote:
> > If they do laugh at u tell them you are going to go postal on them .lol Then tell them to refund every thing and
> > Send my converter back to me.
> > .I sold it way to cheep any way,I hope it comes back here,I did have a return address on it,I am starting to get very pissed off,I going down there right now a chew out the SOB's,BTW i always used fed ex/ups Before this and will go
> > back to them.Shipping used car parts is a fuckn hassel that no shipping co.wants to do.The stupid counter people at post ofice r a joke.
> >
> > On [2008-09-18 06:37:34] kingjr wrote:
> > > I guess I could go down there, they'll probably laugh me out of the place!
> > > If you remember you called me back after getting shipping price of $31 from UPS and told me to send $366 which I did. So that is how I expected it to be shipped. Oh well, hopefully we can get this settled. thanks for the reply. Wayne
> > >
> > > On [2008-09-17 19:41:19] redcamaro572 wrote:
> > > > I dont recall any shipping arangements being made ,I do know that i payed for 24 out of the 40 dollars it cost to ship it,all i know to do now, is file a grievance for you at the post office after the 29th. The post office would usually send you a slip to come pick it up, maybe that is missing and your post office may have it sitting there. Try checking with them if you haven't already and I'll check here after the 29th. Wayne, sorry about it but thats all we can do right now.
> > > > On [2008-09-17 18:46:10] kingjr wrote:
> > > > > 20 days and counting.... still no convertor. YOu should have shipped it UPS like we AGREED to.
> > > > >
> > > > > On [2008-09-04 22:17:16] redcamaro572 wrote:
> > > > > > Hey Wayne, The converter went out usps,All i have is a recite # 431164,And it cost $39.04 .This was the first time with these guys,I normaly use FEDEX,But they are next door to my wifes work and so i tried them.I will go over there and find out more tomorrow Sorry bout the wait.Thanks ,John Albarado
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On [2008-09-04 17:55:30] kingjr wrote:
> > > > > > > need the tracking #, still not here, thanks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On [2008-09-02 20:34:11] redcamaro572 wrote:
> > > > > > > > went out on the 27,I will get the info for you,let me know if you dont get it by the 4 ,poss. hurricane slowed down delivery.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On [2008-09-02 20:00:30] kingjr wrote:
> > > > > > > > > do you have a tracking #? thanks
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On [2008-08-25 15:08:47] redcamaro572 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > OK Wayne,Rcvd. your ck. will get conv. on the way,Shound be there sometime late this week,Thanks John Albarado
> > > > > > > > > > On [2008-08-21 07:54:24] kingjr wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi John, I forgot to ask but the gm95 has turbo spline I hope?? thanks
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ps, check went out this morning...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-08-20 19:08:16] redcamaro572 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-08-20 18:44:24] kingjr wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > very interested in the gm95, what can you tell me about it?? is there a serial # on it?? thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > Will sale the gm95 for $350 will spilt S/H if go ground only

[redcamaro572]

I did not rip off Wayne King or anyone else for that matter. So, Wayne calling me a ripoff artist is slander. I have proof I mailed his converter. He NEVER requested I get a tracking # or insurance.... NEVER. We agreed to split the shipping cost for ground only as described in the email. If you read the email you can see that Wayne asked me about tracking #'s after package was already sent.

I have proof that I sent the package.....he claims he never received it - but how do I know Wayne King isn't ripping me off??....he says he bought/sold on the internet 10's of 1000's of dollars worth, I'm just trying to get rid of a few used parts - cheap!

I have filed a complaint with the post office, which I have proof of as well..and if the post office can verify it was never delivered to Wayne King or the address it was shipped to and they refund the money. I will forward it to Wayne King.



John Albarado

[mopar1968]

As it has been said time's and time's before show us the proof that it was sent :?: :?:

[zipper06]

Doesn't make sense to me for $.90 you can get a tracking # from USPS, and tells you where it's at and when was delivered. I never ship anything USPS without purchasing this tracking code.

JMO

Zip.

[supergass]

I hope everything is on the up and up as well as everyone else but since we are all blind to the facts it is a must to start pushing to get things like this solved. It is human nature to mount a defense when accused innocent or guilty BUT in the correspondence we can glean the facts most of the time. The simple fact is that you have the check and he has no converter(he says) so the burden of proof is on you 572. The tracking number would have told you to that the converter was delivered and what time and who signed for it. As a matter of fact, I didnt know you could ship anythng without one! It would be a protection for you as much as him.

[bbchevy]

USPS Delivery Confermation 0.65
It gets you a Tracing # and they have to sign for the Package when it ARRIVES?
Thats pretty Cheap INSURANCE!
Later
G 8)

[michael1]

The two of you agreed to UPS and you shipped it USPS now you have to deal with it. Yoy should give him his money back and deal with filing the claim and getting your own money back. jmo

[kingjr]

The two of you agreed to UPS and you shipped it USPS now you have to deal with it. Yoy should give him his money back and deal with filing the claim and getting your own money back. jmo

It's pretty obvious John cares little about the truth.
He "claims" we had no UPS agreement and that he got the "ground" quote from the US Post office at 7:30pm? To my knowledge Fedex and UPS are the only ones to offer "ground" service. The very word "ground" implies UPS or Fedex and he goes on to say in our dialogue that he normally uses FEDEX. To furthur this arguement his quote was for $31 shipping which I paid $16 of and his actual charges as he states was almost $40. This conflicting data leads me to believe he used a different shipper.

John, my statement about 10's of thousands of dollars spent here was neither pious or condescending. In fact it is closer to $100k when added up but was said so you would know in all the years I've done business here I have NEVER had an issue, both as buyer and/or seller, UNTIL NOW!

You need to admit you made a BIG mistake irresponsibly shipping that part and refund my money, period. IMO, insuring SOLD parts for the amount of the sale is common practice and should not have to be requested.

IF I take you to court I assure you it will cost you 10 times what you owe me. I will spend thousands to collect that money because you have pissed me off and now it is about principle.

Don't say I have not given you ample time either, my letter to you gave you 10 days and you still have not paid.

[redcamaro572]

Wayne, I have no problem with bringing slander charges against you, along with a counter suit . I mailed YOUR property to YOU at YOUR risk not mine. Your original letter that came with your check had only a mailing address and no request for tracking or insurance. I have proof and witnesses, and now that it has gone this far, by you calling me a theif it will cost you a court filing fee to get anything else from me. I now think that you did get the parts and have come up with some sort of way to get me to to send your money so you come out with the converter at no cost to you. I think you got the parts and saw no tracking # and are now scamming me. The only thing I can say is that you have already agreed that there was no special shipping instructions because neither one of us had EVER had problems with shipments before. You ASKED about tracking way after it was shipped. You didnt ask WHAT the # was like if you were expecting me to have them, you asked me if I had one. YOU KNOW THERE WASNT ANY AGREEMENTS WITH ANY CARRIERS much less any insurance or tracking # agreements. You arent even sure what splines it was made for until after I got the check. So that being said I will not pay unless the post office refunds the amount I put on the domestic claims investigation form. You can get in touch with your local post master and ask them. They will find out the truth. They have seen all my proof and told me that 99% of the time the package was delivered to the destination and stolen from there, that is if you aren't a scam artist. It was very heavy, big, and red, and said HUGHES across it. It was sent in the origanal box that it came from Hughes. YOUR ISSUE IS WITH THE FEDS. NOT ME......FYI additional services purchased from any carrier doesn't mean that your mail is 100% guaranteed against incidents. I did send your converter, I did not intend for it to get lost, therefore you calling me a ripoff artist on the ad you posted is slander and if you take me to court, you can bet I will countersue for damages for that! any


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[ss427nova]

I did not rip off Wayne King or anyone else for that matter. So, Wayne calling me a ripoff artist is slander. I have proof I mailed his converter. He NEVER requested I get a tracking # or insurance.... NEVER. We agreed to split the shipping cost for ground only as described in the email. If you read the email you can see that Wayne asked me about tracking #'s after package was already sent.

I have proof that I sent the package.....he claims he never received it - but how do I know Wayne King isn't ripping me off??....he says he bought/sold on the internet 10's of 1000's of dollars worth, I'm just trying to get rid of a few used parts - cheap!

I have filed a complaint with the post office, which I have proof of as well..and if the post office can verify it was never delivered to Wayne King or the address it was shipped to and they refund the money. I will forward it to Wayne King.



John Albarado

LIBEL- LIBEL- LIBEL! Slander is SPOKEN word! Geez....
Sorry Guys, my major was grammar.

[Tod74]

It is the sellers responsibility to see to it the buyer gets the item. Period. Shipping Insurance protects the seller more than the buyer.

[mopar1968]

:shock: :shock: Well folks there's the proof, now what :?: :?:

[hollowayshotrods]

Scratching my head, wondering the same as mopar!

[lively]

:shock: :shock: Well folks there's the proof, now what :?: :?:
:roll: :roll: :wink: :roll: :wink: :roll: :wink: :roll: :idea: :arrow: :!: :idea:
i am confused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mytmouz]

Ok, I see the proof that he paid for it to be mailed. But there is no proof that it was delivered. Delivery confirmation or insurance is the only was to prove it through the USPS. If you sell something through feebay, you have to have proof that it was recieved or you are still responsible. Seller responsiblity is looked at the same on pretty much every transaction everywhere else that I have seen. I sold a part earlier this year and just happened to insure it as the local postmaster boxed it for me and I wasn't sure of the packaging job. 90 days later, it still hasn't been located. The insurance paid me the money to refund the buyer, I'm still out my money and my part. As the seller, I feel that's not really fair same as the seller here, and I got the insurance. If you sell it and the buyer doesn't want insurance, spend the 90 cents and get the delivery confirmation. That way you can be sure if it is recieved or not. The delivery confirmation cannot be used as a tracking number, it's only scanned when it's delivered. But it can tell you whether or not it's been recieved. I'm not taking sides in this, looks like both parties are coming out ont he losing end. Hope it can be resolved guys...

[zipper06]

He may have paid for something, but there is no valid tracking #'s.

Zip.

[kingjr]

:shock: :shock: Well folks there's the proof, now what :?: :?:

Proof of what?
That he mailed a pound of sand to Alaska??
THere is NO proof on that reciept that anything was mailed to me. No name, no address, no zip, no description, no weight, no dimensions, nothing. Only my telephone # scribbled on the top.

You've been telling me for over 6 weeks that the greivance would be filed. Why isn't the PS 1000 postal form filled out completely? You said you would file a claim on September 29,2008. Sure doesn't look like it.

John, you fail to see the obvious that insurance is for you, not me. If parts get lost you refund the buyer then get compensated for the lost item with purchased insurance that I might add is DIRT cheap.

You got it stuck in your head that since you dropped it off at the PO, or your WIFE did, that you can wash your hands of all resposibility. YOU are responsible till it gets here, it did not.

I asked for the tracking # when it still had not arrived after 12 days, only to find out there wasn't one.

Enough of the 5th grade arguement that I have the parts. I have much better things to do with my time then collect this stinking $366.
For that matter how do I know that you don't have the part? You told me your return address was on the box. You also said that you regretted selling the part to me for agreed upon price and you HOPED to get it back!
If your packaging was as incompetant as your shipping it probably fell out of the box...

I did 2 things, negotiated a deal and sent payment. Now you make me out to be the crook.
As for ripoff artist, it can only be slander if its false.

This is where we are different, I would have returned that money promptly had I made the mistakes you made.

[kingjr]

It is the sellers responsibility to see to it the buyer gets the item. Period. Shipping Insurance protects the seller more than the buyer.

that is it in a nutshell

[mytmouz]

Just a note... The insurance will only refund a verifiable selling price plus the cost of the shipping minus the cost of the insurance. All the seller will recoup after refunding the buyers money is the cost of the shipping minus the cost of the insurance. You can buy $1,000.00 dollars worth of insurance, but you must show some type of receipt, so if you send a Paypal or Money Order for $366.00 the $366.00 is all that can be recouped...

[kingjr]

I have the cancelled check and our recorded dialogue.

I NEVER claimed the package did not ship. It certainly could've been although that receipt is not worth the paper it's printed on.

My issue is that he thinks I should wait for HIS grievance to get paid. He hired the post office, not me. I assumed "ground" meant UPS. Now he claims he will only pay me what he gets back, if and when, that is wrong. He is the seller on record but will not take responsibility.

Had I known of such incompetance I would have issued a call tag via my UPS account and been done with it, live and learn I guess.

[Tod74]

It is the sellers responsibility to see to it the buyer gets the item. Period. Shipping Insurance protects the seller more than the buyer.

worth repeating. You insure a package for the sold /declared value. If it is lost you still lose but you only lose once...not twice. You have the responsibility to get them the package. I sold a crank for $900 bucks on EBAY last year and I was sweating bullets til the guy got it.

[Rolandjr]

It is the sellers responsibility to see to it the buyer gets the item. Period. Shipping Insurance protects the seller more than the buyer.

worth repeating. You insure a package for the sold /declared value. If it is lost you still lose but you only lose once...not twice. You have the responsibility to get them the package. I sold a crank for $900 bucks on EBAY last year and I was sweating bullets til the guy got it.How would you even loose once? I assume you've got your money before shipping and if you insure package for its value than you get that back if lost. (Too return to buyer. ) I guess you loose the shipping cost but that is a small price to pay.

[mytmouz]

You also lose the item sold...

[Tod74]

It is the sellers responsibility to see to it the buyer gets the item. Period. Shipping Insurance protects the seller more than the buyer.

worth repeating. You insure a package for the sold /declared value. If it is lost you still lose but you only lose once...not twice. You have the responsibility to get them the package. I sold a crank for $900 bucks on EBAY last year and I was sweating bullets til the guy got it.How would you even loose once? I assume you've got your money before shipping and if you insure package for its value than you get that back if lost. (Too return to buyer. ) I guess you loose the shipping cost but that is a small price to pay.

you're right.

[kingjr]

That is all well and good except John seems to think that he was doing me a favor shipping this item rather then fulfilling a responsibility.

Of course 3 weeks after he cashed my check he was still calling it HIS convertor. Not until it was definately lost did it become mine...

Notice he has no rebuttle for what seems to be common practice and simple common sense.

He said he would ship ground, not parcel post.
Had he spoken those words I assure you the brakes would've went on in a hurry.

[kingjr]

thanks to those of you who prompted me to come here and try to air out the laundry. It is clear to me that Mr. Albarado does not care that he ripped me off and has no desire to refund my money. I knew this all along. He is also a LIAR as he told me for weeks that as 30 days expired he would file form PS1000 on September 29, 2008 and has not done so.
So John your not just a petty theif you are also a liar, congratulations. I hope God did not make many like you.

Mail fraud charges have been filed and I am completing Internet Fraud charges as we speak. I hope you are not a felon John, on probation or have any warrants for your arrest cause if you do it's bye bye time for a while...

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[kingjr]

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[kingjr]

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[Scorpion1110]

He said he would ship ground, not parcel post.
Had he spoken those words I assure you the brakes would've went on in a hurry.

Just curious regarding all the differences- UPS gives you automatic insurance of $100 and a delivery confirm. For USPS you have to purchase both.

In your email string printed in this thread I see a mention of Ground but no text that says anything about direction to purchase the insurance above the $100 to the $350 for the convertor- Was that discussed?

I am sure the claim policy differs between USPS and UPS.

If he had shipped UPS Ground and not purchased additional insurance, youd be $100 better off then current. Would you have been able to recover the delta if no additional insurance was purchased?

My other question is if he files claim through USPS, is the whole amount potentially recoverable? In other words is it possible that the USPS claim procedure might recover the whole amount as opposed to UPS ground with no additional insurance just recovering $100-or would UPS pay $100 immediately and the remainder later?

It seems whether it was UPS or UPS insurance for the whole amount and a delivery confirmation should be mandatory. It is when I sell anything in any manner other than face to face at a swap meet.

just curious,

Scorp

[mytmouz]

Just a note... The insurance will only refund a verifiable selling price plus the cost of the shipping minus the cost of the insurance. All the seller will recoup after refunding the buyers money is the cost of the shipping minus the cost of the insurance. You can buy $1,000.00 dollars worth of insurance, but you must show some type of receipt, so if you send a Paypal or Money Order for $366.00 the $366.00 is all that can be recouped...

Answered earlier in the thread...

[kingjr]

No scorpion, additional insurance was not discussed, neither was parcel post. You could argue they are one in the same but they are NOT.
After our initial telephone conversation John hung up the phone to obtain shipping quote of $31 which was obviously not from USPS as they charged him 39.04 to ship a part I can ship for $21 insured.

I as well as 3 or 4 others here just assumed everyone insured their parts for the amount of the sale to cover their own asses. I have never requested a shipping/tracking # either unless a part is not here in reasonable amount of time. I was appalleld to find out there was NO shipping #.

[kingjr]

Internet Fraud charges have now been filed.

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[kingjr]

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[kingjr]

Monday I will file a compliant with the Better Business Bureau dept. of consumer affairs.

[kingjr]

BTT.

This issue was never rectified. John got my money and I got nothing.
Just remember John, what goes around comes around...
A good name is greater to be had then great riches.

Merry Christmas everyone!