JOSH KIRK OR TO TRADE! EVERYONE PLEASE READ THIS!!!!

[boonesracing]

DO NOT EVER DO ANY TRADING WITH THIS GUY HE IS A SCAMMER ON RACING JUNK! WE TRADED A BLOWER FOR A COMPLETE RACE MOTOR AD #1280424 AND HE SENT US A PIECE OF JUNK MOTOR! IT HAS A CRACKED BLOCK WITH WATER IN IT & NOTHING ON THE MOTOR IS WHAT HE HAS LISTED! NO CHROME ANY WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE HE WENT TO THE JUNK YARD & GOT A MOTOR & SHIPPED IT TO US! WE WILL NOT SIT BACK AND TAKE THIS THERE WILL BE SOMETHING DONE TO MAKE THIS RIGHT. PEOPLE WORK TO HARD FOR THERE MONEY FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANGE OF US! WE ARE A FAMILY OF DRAG RACERS & ENJOY THE SPORT FOR WHAT IT IS. NOT FOR PEOPLE LIKE JOSH TO REUNION IT FOR OTHER PEOPLE! EVERYONE PLEASE BE AWARE OF HIM................!
BOONESRACING


boonesracing
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: Josh Kirk or to trade EVERYONE PLEASE READ THIS!

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We traded a 4000.00 blower for what was supposed to be a complete motor race ready ad #1280424 What we got was a junk motor that has a craced block & nothing on the motor that he has listed or what the pic shows!!!!!!! Do not do business with this guy he is a rip off We took pics of the motor we got & anyone with any common sense can see the differance.PLEASE READ THIS AND BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!

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[bjuice]

hello i moved your post from general to scammer..i realize you are a guest...and probabaly just learning where to post..

just letting you know where your post in General went to. I also combined your two threads so people can follow this easier.

Brian

[RiceIsWrong]

The motor you recived is not junk. I bought it from A guy and listed it just as he had it listed.. It is not cracked there is nothing wrong with the motor
I am not a motor builder and do not know much about internal parts of a motor I was simply going by what He said when I bought it. I do know that I saw the motor running two days before he pulled it.. I am not a scammer I have tried to help every way possible when you guys had the shipping messed up for over a month. I sat at the house waiting and waiting I did everything I could do to help you guys and then you post something like this.. I have plenty of references and have traded many cars and parts with no complaints but i guess there has to be a bad apple in the bunch..

Thanks

[boonesracing]

LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN SELLING THE MOTOR WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET ALONG WITH THE BLOWER WE SENT YOU WHEN YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE OUT OF TOWN? WE DID NOT MESS UP THE SHIPPING THEY WENT OUT SEVERAL TIMES AND YOU EITHER WERE NOT THERE OR YOU CALLED AND CANCLED THE SHIPPING I HATE TO TELL YOU MR BAD APPLE BUT I DO HAVE A PAPER TRAIL AND YOU AND YOUR WIFE TOGETHER WILL MAKE THIS RIGHT I AM REFERRING TO AD # 1308745 I HAVE ALSO REPORTED YOU TO RACING JUNK & THEY ARE ALSO INVESTAGATING THIS AS WELL THE MOTOR YOU SENT IS NOT THE MOTOR IN THE PICTURE YOU HAD IN THE AD!!!! I WILL NOT SIT BACK AND LET YOU TAKE ADVANGE OF A DISABLED PERSON ON A LIMITED INCOME I WILL TAKE ACTION AGAINST YOU WE ALREADY HAVE A ATTORNEY HANLDING THIS SINCE WE TOOK THE PICS AT THE SHIPMENT BEFORE TOUCHED AND WE HAVE WERE YOU POSTED THE SAME MOTOR THAT WE WERE WAITING ON AND PUT IT IN A CAR WITH MY BLOWER THAT I SENT YOU AND SOLD MY BLOWER WITH THE MOTOR THAT WE TRADED FOR AND I DO KNOW ABOUT MOTORS AND THE ONLY THING THAT MATCH WHAT YOU POSTED WAS THE CROME TIMING CHAIN COVER ..THE MOTOR THAT WAS SENT TO ME WAS A JUNK NON WORKING MOTOR WHEN YOU PULL THE OIL PAN AND FRAGMENTS FALL EVERY WERE WATER EVERY WERE THE MOTOR IS BLOWN WITH A CRACKED CYLINDER MOTOR IS JUNK...WERE FAR FROM STUPID AND HAVE BEEN RACING ALL OUR LIFE.. CHARGES WILL BE FILED AGAINST HIM AND HIS WIFE...

[ashbros]

I don't know what type of return policy the both of you can work out, But I highly recommend it. Sellers must be held accountable for their listing.

If you don't have the facts leave the parts on the racks.

This phrase or any portion therof is copyright protected. Use of this phrase is expressively prohibited without the authorized consent of Big Daddy himself. LOL

[boonesracing]

Thank you ashbros he needs to make this right!!! he sold the blower we were tradeing with the motor we were supposed to get toghther & sent us a piece of shitz motor

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I don't know what type of return policy the both of you can work out, But I highly recommend it. Sellers must be held accountable for their listing.

[RiceIsWrong]

The motor you recived was not Junk and the picture in the add was for reference only.. You were aware of that per one of our many phone coversations prior to the motor purchace.. If you want set up shipping and you can have another motor picked up. But you are responsable for shipping just as I was for the blower.. If you want to get down to it the add you had posted for the blower was very misleading. I did not recieve the carbs in the picture. I recived two junk carbs that were no good, the studs on the intake were stripped out, the blower leaked oil, the bolt holes for the carbs didn't line up and were also stipped out and the intake was cracked by the front bolt holes and three of the runners.. if you did use it at all it must have been 10 yrs ago. I also have pitcures of this and made note with the UPS driver.

[RiceIsWrong]

Oh yea, You did mess up on the shipping or was that just an excuse to try and get some money from me. First off you stated that there was a cod charge of $303 that you were supposed to pay to be sent to me and then you had it taken care of. Then some excuse that you paid it and I needed to wire you the $303 and you would send me a copy of the check?? Sounds like a scam to me. How is that when YOU set up ALL the shipping? Also How can I cancel the shipping when you again set it up. Thats pretty lame! I was here for many hours at a time waiting for a truck to show up. First no lift gate and then no truck, no phone call and then no truck and so on. It really seems to me that you guys are the ones trying to scam people..

[boonesracing]

Oh yea, You did mess up on the shipping or was that just an excuse to try and get some money from me. First off you stated that there was a cod charge of $303 that you were supposed to pay to be sent to me and then you had it taken care of. Then some excuse that you paid it and I needed to wire you the $303 and you would send me a copy of the check?? Sounds like a scam to me. How is that when YOU set up ALL the shipping? Also How can I cancel the shipping when you again set it up. Thats pretty lame! I was here for many hours at a time waiting for a truck to show up. First no lift gate and then no truck, no phone call and then no truck and so on. It really seems to me that you guys are the ones trying to scam people..


is this why you sold the motor that we traded you for? with the blower i sent you? and than send me a blown up piece of junk? shipping was at your house many times and you weren't ...you said you were at work far away so you put it on your wife and others to handle it and nothing waited months on you to send it..and now we know why you were reselling it in another car with our blower

[boonesracing]

im done with the talking just wanted to warn fellow racers on racing junk... i gave you time to make it right ...now it's in the laws hands

[boonesracing]

I don't know what type of return policy the both of you can work out, But I highly recommend it. Sellers must be held accountable for their listing.

If you don't have the facts leave the parts on the racks.

This phrase or any portion therof is copyright protected. Use of this phrase is expressively prohibited without the authorized consent of Big Daddy himself. LOL


got that right ...don't post a racing motor than send a stock blown motor...and well he can't return my blower i traded him bc he sold it on the motor i traded for...

[michael1]

toTrade,did you already sell the blower? If so how did you let the buyer know that it was as bad as you said it was?

[RiceIsWrong]

The blower is sold. It was sold locally to a guy for 750 bucks and he is the one who pointed out the cracked intake to me. YOU wanna talk charges we can do that I will also proceed.

Thanks

[boonesracing]

send me a picture of the cracked billet aluminum intake....i would like to see it. and this is the first i have heard of it. i saw where you advertised the blower and the motor (that was supposed to be sent to me) on racing junk.

[boonesracing]

this is what we traded for and did not receive. we did the trade on 8-07-2008 and then it took until 10-01-2008 to get a junk motor. and we shipped out the blower in august and then in september another ad was posted by toTrade containing all the same information below including my blower and everything i sent with it and a car. ad # 1308745.



4 Bolt Main Block (Two Piece Rear Seal), Eagle 4340 Forged Steel Stroker Crankshaft Assembled With H-Series Clevite Rod And Main Bearings Eagle H-Beam Bushed Connecting Rods W/ARP Rod Bolts (Good For Over 700HP) High Performance SRP Forged Pistons 11.0:1 Compression, Hand Filed Performance Rings, Three Piece Billet Double Roller Timing Set, Crane Performance Roller Camshaft, Crane hydraulic Roller Lifters, Performance Heads 64cc With 230cc Intake Runners, Stainless Steel 2.08 Intake Valves, Stainless Steel 1.60 Exhaust Valves, High Performance Valve Springs And Retainers, 7/16 Screw In Studs And Hardened Guide Plates,Manley Chrome Moly Push Rods, 7/16 - 1.6 Aluminum Roller Rockers, Engine Assembled With All Brand New Bolts, High Volume Oil Pump And Screen, Chrome Oil Pan, Chrome Dip Stick And Tube, Polished Aluminum Timing Cover Professional Products SFI Approved performance balancer, Fel-Pro Performance Gaskets, The Complete Rotating Assembly is Balanced Edelbrock Victor Jr. Intake Manifold Chrome Thermostat Housing, Holley street avenger carb. MSD 8.8 Wires, AC delco plugs, Mini starter 2.5 hp, Crank is ballanced w/ 5oz moly.

[boonesracing]

The blower is sold. It was sold locally to a guy for 750 bucks and he is the one who pointed out the cracked intake to me. YOU wanna talk charges we can do that I will also proceed.

Thanks

and i quote "we do not and will not use or sell or trade any junk" and it took you 2 months to say anything about the intake ..

[mopar1968]

Can you post a picture of the engine he sent to you, Let us compare it to the pic in the ad. You also might need to post a picture of the engine he had for sale, the ad say's sold and no picture.

[boonesracing]

Can you post a picture of the engine he sent to you, Let us compare it to the pic in the ad. You also might need to post a picture of the engine he had for sale, the ad say's sold and no picture.

yes i will post pics

[boonesracing]

this is what we were supposed to receive.


ad# 1280424

http://i38.tinypic.com/25i0vo1.jpg

[boonesracing]

this is what we received right off the shipping truck.

http://i36.tinypic.com/ete548.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/1zflzc3.jpg


http://i33.tinypic.com/5n5fgi.jpg


http://i34.tinypic.com/30l2dmg.jpg


http://i37.tinypic.com/10wittc.jpg

[RiceIsWrong]

Per our phone coversation proir to the trade you knew that the picture was for reference only and that was not the motor you would recive. If you look clearly at the ad it wouldn't be the same motor. Also I didn't put anything on my Wife.. You knew I was at work, The motor that was sold with the 68 is a different motor and how can I get a picture of the crack on the intake if I dont have it anymore.. As far as shipping I was here. Like I said There is nothing wrong with the motor you received.

You really need to get you facts correct. You know just as well as I do there where problems with the shipping company and that I waisted many hrs waiting on them.

Lets see why dont you explain the $303 COD deal or should i say the scam you tried to pull on me by having your son call me and say that I needed to wire you 303 bucks because you had to pay some COD charge even though you set up shipping and that after I wired you the money you would send me a copy of a check ????.

It's people like you who ruin it for other members of RJ.

[boonesracing]

Per our phone coversation proir to the trade you knew that the picture was for reference only and that was not the motor you would recive. If you look clearly at the ad it wouldn't be the same motor. Also I didn't put anything on my Wife.. You knew I was at work, The motor that was sold with the 68 is a different motor and how can I get a picture of the crack on the intake if I dont have it anymore.. As far as shipping I was here. Like I said There is nothing wrong with the motor you received.

You really need to get you facts correct. You know just as well as I do there where problems with the shipping company and that I waisted many hrs waiting on them.

Lets see why dont you explain the $303 COD deal or should i say the scam you tried to pull on me by having your son call me and say that I needed to wire you 303 bucks because you had to pay some COD charge even though you set up shipping and that after I wired you the money you would send me a copy of a check ????.

It's people like you who ruin it for other members of RJ.


yes i have that $303 on paper from the shipping company and if was bc you didn't or wouldn't confirm the c.o.d deal ..so they charge me 2 times and it has been dealt with ...i have every paper from day one..no we were not informed you posted a different picture than listed in the ad trust me when i say we don't need any junk or stock motors and would not have did this deal..and i have the pics of the other ad with that picture of the motor in another ad that said sold ...with "MY BLOWER" any more ????? and would be glad to post it so every one else can see it and match it up also ...and any racer can look at these pics and your listed parts in the ad and see there not there..that this is just a stock junk motor..

[RiceIsWrong]

I don't know what kinda tricks your trying to pull but that is not what that engine looked like when I shipped it out or you recieved it. It looks like you put some crap in the oilpan and then poured it on the bearings and piston.. Oil pump and mains dont have any stuff on them. I guess you should pour some on that to and then take another picture.. because i know what it looked like! You know keep posting and I'll keep trading. I have a lot of references of people I have traded with.

I will send you another spark plug but it wasn't broken when it left..

[RiceIsWrong]

I also sent you a copy of the email to the shipping company saying I was not owed any money.. What next.

[boonesracing]

I don't know what kinda tricks your trying to pull but that is not what that engine looked like when I shipped it out or you recieved it. It looks like you put some crap in the oilpan and then poured it on the bearings and piston.. Oil pump and mains dont have any stuff on them. I guess you should pour some on that to and then take another picture.. because i know what it looked like! You know keep posting and I'll keep trading. I have a lot of references of people I have traded with.

I will send you another spark plug but it wasn't broken when it left..


...we have a 5 car race team NHRA ...why would i do anything to this motor..these pics were taken upon arrival and yes i took pics of it for proof unlike your new complaint about my blower ......


people please review ad's 1280424 and 1308745...and that's were everything that was in the trade went

[RiceIsWrong]

Thats fine I will also File charges. For the carbs, Cracked intake, oil leak and ect.. Even the ups guy was mad about the oil everywhere...

[boonesracing]

I also sent you a copy of the email to the shipping company saying I was not owed any money.. What next.



like i said it has been all paid by me and dealt with..if you didn't avoid my previous phone calls you would have known that. but since i told you about the motor you have avoided me and i even tried to give you time to make it right as you said you would on the phone with the right motor but never heard anything else from you till i posted what you are and what you do to people and i hope to god people read this bc if they deal with you they will be next to go though this

[boonesracing]

Thats fine I will also File charges. For the carbs, Cracked intake, oil leak and ect.. Even the ups guy was mad about the oil everywhere...

can't wait to see you in court hope you took pics of every thing as i did of the junk motor and the blower before it left my hands bc of something like this i would have made things right unlike you i been doing things on here and racing my whole life and i would make things right if something happen in shipping but if you got insurance you would have been taking care of...i always take pic of every thing just in case something was to happen..and i have the pics off your other add with the motor in the pic of the ad we traded for ..and you posted my blower with it ...and we had the blower checked before it was shipped


:D

[boonesracing]

and folks this was my ad 1279168..........if clearly says CARBS NOT INCLUDED ....thank you

[RiceIsWrong]

That's fine. I will also see you in court.. Like I said. If you pay for shipping I will send out another motor. I will expect the carbs that where in the picture too not some junk carbs that you decided to swap for. If you list it you need to follow thru.

[RiceIsWrong]

You had STATED that you would send a set of good gas carbs over the phone. The carbs you send are JUNK..

We can go around all day. I will also see you in court

Thanks

I'M DONE!!

[RiceIsWrong]

Thats fine I will also File charges. For the carbs, Cracked intake, oil leak and ect.. Even the ups guy was mad about the oil everywhere...

can't wait to see you in court hope you took pics of every thing as i did of the junk motor and the blower before it left my hands bc of something like this i would have made things right unlike you i been doing things on here and racing my whole life and i would make things right if something happen in shipping but if you got insurance you would have been taking care of...i always take pic of every thing just in case something was to happen..and i have the pics off your other add with the motor in the pic of the ad we traded for ..and you posted my blower with it ...and we had the blower checked before it was shipped


:D

I have someone who can show up in court to prove that the blower was junk!

Thanks.

[boonesracing]

That's fine. I will also see you in court.. Like I said. If you pay for shipping I will send out another motor. I will expect the carbs that where in the picture too not some junk carbs that you decided to swap for. If you list it you need to follow thru.


what in my ad do you not understand? carbs not included ...and if you send me another motor your paying for the shipping or you can western union 3,000 and it will be solved..

[RiceIsWrong]

You had STATED that you would send a set of good gas carbs over the phone. The carbs you send are JUNK..

We can go around all day. I will also see you in court

Thanks

I'M DONE!!


Again you sent JUNK carbs!!!!

See you there.

[boonesracing]

please do i also have an nhra certified engine builder and race track inspector that inspected this blower before shipment bc i don't sell or trade junk..

[boonesracing]

i would like to know and im sure everyone else would also like to know why would you state my stuff is junk 2 months after you received it? and then sold it instead of sending it back to me or telling me there was an issue?

[bjuice]

I am not taking any sides here...but i will say this.

I would not Give $50.00 bucks for the motor posted in the above picture.
seriously my blowed up Junk looks 500% better than that.

For the record ..i been in this race game for 30 yrs..and i can assure you the Chit picutred on that bottom end is something you cannot just pour on it..that stuff is miles and miles of abuse and sludge....my observation only.

i am not saying what engine is what..i am just stating what i see in the pictures posted.

Brian

[Tod74]

He sent you THAT? :o

I have seen better lying in the junkyard with no pan in the mudd.

[Scorpion1110]

this is what we traded for and did not receive. we did the trade on 8-07-2008 and then it took until 10-01-2008 to get a junk motor. and we shipped out the blower in august and then in september another ad was posted by toTrade containing all the same information below including my blower and everything i sent with it and a car. ad # 1308745.



4 Bolt Main Block (Two Piece Rear Seal), Eagle 4340 Forged Steel Stroker Crankshaft Assembled With H-Series Clevite Rod And Main Bearings Eagle H-Beam Bushed Connecting Rods W/ARP Rod Bolts (Good For Over 700HP) High Performance SRP Forged Pistons 11.0:1 Compression, Hand Filed Performance Rings, Three Piece Billet Double Roller Timing Set, Crane Performance Roller Camshaft, Crane hydraulic Roller Lifters, Performance Heads 64cc With 230cc Intake Runners, Stainless Steel 2.08 Intake Valves, Stainless Steel 1.60 Exhaust Valves, High Performance Valve Springs And Retainers, 7/16 Screw In Studs And Hardened Guide Plates,Manley Chrome Moly Push Rods, 7/16 - 1.6 Aluminum Roller Rockers, Engine Assembled With All Brand New Bolts, High Volume Oil Pump And Screen, Chrome Oil Pan, Chrome Dip Stick And Tube, Polished Aluminum Timing Cover Professional Products SFI Approved performance balancer, Fel-Pro Performance Gaskets, The Complete Rotating Assembly is Balanced Edelbrock Victor Jr. Intake Manifold Chrome Thermostat Housing, Holley street avenger carb. MSD 8.8 Wires, AC delco plugs, Mini starter 2.5 hp, Crank is ballanced w/ 5oz moly.

ad# 1280424 seems to be gone.
ToTrade (user forum) = RiceisWrong (seller profile)


Buyer Boonesracing, any chance that you took screen prints of the ad and description before the trade? A print of the web page should contain the URL on the bottom and a date. This would validate the ad and what was listed, before any changes.

Take the ad as stated and the motor to your machine shop. Have them disassemble the engine and compare the parts as removed to the parts in the ad. While the seller may claim the item may not be the one shown, he is obligated to provide the parts in as stated condition. If there is no hardcopy documentation appending the ad before you paid then the sale item is as stated.

My assumption is that based on pics, you did not get what was advertised. Did you pay with a USPS money order? If you have been able to prove that what was sent was not what was advertised and used a USPS MO, I believe that is mail fraud.

Same procedures now apply-Notify his state's attorney general officially as to what has occured. If he is an LLC or any official business with a separate EIN then you can file claim-again I believe.

Contact USPS and report the mail fraud if applicable.

You claim to have an attorney-thats good and expensive.

Call your local court house and find out home much can go through small claims court. File a claim there. Its usually pretty cheap. Find out if you can have him served with a summons-since he is out of state see if it can be transferred from your local sheriff to the sheriff in his county. Ideally you want him served at work so that everyone at his business knows about it. Require him to defend in your state-its unlikely he will show, so you should get a default judgement-then when you do request a garnishment of wages-transferred to his state.

The thing about the threat of legal action is the other party will always bet that you wont follow through so you need to do some homework and chase him on your own first-each move you make must be well thought out and require that he make a precise counter-move.

Since you made a trade and he made a sale-possibly at a profit-discuss with your accountant to see how you need to report on your taxes and if you can, report him as the buyer to ensure that he is completing 1040 and attachments correctly-Not sure if you can connect him to your deal officially-but try. The IRS sniffs like a hound and if they catch wind that he is not reporting income, they will do more damage then your attorney ever could.

Dedicate yourself to the pursuit and do so at 100%, most people dont have the stomach for a war-make it one.

I cant gaurantee success but I can gaurantee satisfaction.

Later,
Scorp

[gsforless]

Been following this one with complete bewilderment,sounds like something that'd happen to me!

It never ceases to amaze me how shady some people can be!!


All I can say,in regard to Scorp's post,is...."Hell Yeah"!



Glen

[Tod74]

3 grand for that turd!! :shock:

[lively]

I REALLY BELEIVE THAT THERE IS A CROOK IN THE DEAL HERE-- NOT SAYING WHICH ONE OR TAKING SIDES-BUT--IF THAT IS A GOOD ENGINE THEN I WOULD HATE TO SEE ONE OF HIS BAD ENGINES!!!!!!!!!!
YOU MUST BE VERY STUBBORN TO THINK THAT IT IS OK TO CHEAT OR STEAL THEN COME ON HERE SCREAMING ABOUT YOUR REFERENCES AND HONEST DEALINGS AND SO ON :oops: :oops:
SOMETHING STINKS FOR SURE :cry: :cry:
YOU SENT HIM JUNK AND SHOULD PAY UP NOW BEFORE IT GOES TO COURT AND THEY PUT JUDGEMENT AGAINST YOU[INTERSTATE FRAUD IS A FEDERAL OFFENCE!!!!!]
BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS DEAL WHY DID YOU TRADE A BLOWER FOR A MOTOR[ MUST BE A VEEEEEEERY EXPENSIVE BLOWER OR YOU FELT YOU WERE GETTING ONE HECK OF A DEAL :roll: :roll: :roll:

YOU BOTH NEED TO STOP GRIPING HERE AND PUT YOU MONEY WHERE YOU BOTH FEEL IT NEEDS TO BE --IN COURT!!!!! :shock: :shock:

LIVELY

[THERATTLER]

if carbs are not included then what difference does it make if junk ones were sent or not ? they were FREE,,,beside , why would anybody put carbs on a blower in the first place????????what a waste!!!!!!!!

[RiceIsWrong]

I have tried to make it right, I offered you another motor you turned it down.

If you buy a car from a dealer and the say it's a 1.8 L then you turn around and sell it as a 1.8 L simply because thats what you where told (same senario). I have said before the motor you recieved is not junk. We can go around and around. If you cover shipping then I can send you another motor.

About the carbs the agreement over the phone was to include the carbs.(SHOWN IN THE PICTURES)!
The cracked intake.. I contacted the guy I sold it to and he has welded them up. (He said he will send pics of the welds).
The Oil leak ( I know nothing about blowers I was told by the guy who bought it the seals were bad) Hence timeframe

This was a trade there was no fraud or scam involved on my part.

YOU KNEW PRIOR TO THE TRADE THAT THE MOTOR IN THE PICTURE WAS REFERENCE ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as not notifiying you / Boonesracing about the blower. Once again I don't know anything about blowers and had no clue that it was junk until someone showed me what what was wrong with it.

You want to go to court that's fine. Let's go I will contact an attorney also.

I will contact UPS and start the Mail fraud process if it is applicable on a trade...

As far as being obligated to provide the parts stated. Thats what I was sold and I have the receipt showing it. I do not know much about building or the internal parts of a motor so If I can't tell the difference in parts how do I know and How can I be obligated to provide parts that I cant tell the difference on. If you sale a car you bought and it's listed as a 400 because that's what you where told but the buyer finds that it's a 350 and you didn't know how to check it are you obligated to send out a 400 even though that's whats on the Bill of sale that you recieved?

As far as reporting I lost money on the deal. My purchase for the motor $2800,(sorry) sale of junk blower $750. don't think I wont give that to my accountant.

[boonesracing]

Ok here it is ups packed the blower because it was heavy of course!if it was leaking oil they would have told us at that time. I was NEVER TOLD THAT THE MOTOR LISTED WAS NOT WHAT WE WERE GETTING! yes i did print all of the emails and his first ad and the one he deleted I do have a paper trail! And as for the 303 cod That was my mistake i put it in the wrong box we paid it up front so we could get the piece of chit motor from the freight company, Because I called him & ask him to send an email and he never did I called him at 9.00 am & asked him to do this for me and he sent it at 5.58 pm that nightthey closed st 6.00pm he did forward an email to me that night and i have a copy of that email also.the shipping company said that they would send a check here at my address for the 303 but... It may be in his name so I told him he could send the the 303 & I would send him the check! No scam on my part just wanted to be fair! I have two other people that seen this motor on the pallet the day we picked it up there is no way we poured anything in it. he says he knows nothing about motors & I can tell that!!!!!! anyone that knows even a little bit about them knows that it should not look like that! hell my wife & little kid even knows that much. what a lame excuse!!!!! and folks this was my ad 1279168..........if clearly says CARBS NOT INCLUDED ....thank you also I will follow through with legal action this is too much money not to. The war is on & I am not backing down. Ready for a fight!!!!!!!! Please everyone be careful

[boonesracing]

My purchase for the motor $8200 You paid that for it WOW You really are an idiot!!!!!!!

[knova70]

$8200 ? FOR WHAT?thats what you gave for that piece of shit you call a good motor? that you traded for a blower... As I see it he has pictures of the junk motor you sent him and your ad of the motor he was suppost to get..Looks like you got a motor from the yard and rattle can painted it as it sat! It's gonna cost you more in the long run,so might as well give him his $3000 and call it a day. You sold his property,KNOWING there was nothing wrong with it! If I get something and it ain't right I call IMMEDIATELY and it will be made right,AS far as it goes you dont have a leg to stand on You have no proof that the blower was bad or anything wrong with the intake,WHERE"S YOUR PICTURES! He has posted pics of the bad motor and your ad.. He will win any suit against you with the proof he has and you have nothing!Because there was nothing wrong on your part.... :shock:

[I972Nova]

He must have misplaced his decimal point. $82.00 sounds fair.....

JMO....

[bjuice]

Josh ( totrade)..i read your engine ad over and over again..No-where did i see you say the picture wasn't the acutal egine you were selling. If it had i would have given you that.

Now i have been around on this site since 2003..and i have seen classified ads with pictures that clearly state "sample Picture"...yours doesn't even come close.

Boonesracing i would print the ad "No doubt"...this was very Misleading and i think the man will have problems just defending his ad if you pushed this issue...IMO

Make it right Josh..forget a minute about lawyers,court and all the Bull crap and concentrate on doing WHATS RIGHT !!

On very small scale this is one Good example of why we ( USA) is in the shape we are today..too many people hollering everything under the sun besides stepping up and doing the right thing.

http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1280424/SBC-383Stroker-504-hp-490-ftlbs-Trades-.html


i was offfended when i pulled up your ad..this is shameful in my opinion.

MAKE IT RIGHT JOSH.


maybe this has done been mentioned somewhwere in the begining of all these post..but here goes anyway..i got to looking at Josh other ads and the 383 small block in the pro-touring 69 camaro sure looks like the same engine used in the picture of the Bum engine ad. ????

http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1330879/1969-Protouring-Camaro-Trades-.html

again maybe this was already noticed ?

Brian

[bigray]

well mr.totrade NOOO where in you add does it sayPICS ARE FOR REFERENCE ONLY!! AND if its not in print.AND its not in writing. it didnt happen..also know as heresay..soooo sucker you will loose in court and look like an azzzzz. so make it rite, and payup..and his add clearly says NO CARDS.and then he went ahead and gave you some.why in the HELL are you crying..PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE WHAT MAKES LONG DISTANCE DEALS A SCAMMERS MARKET...

[RiceIsWrong]

Brian.

I had said I will make it right. I will send them another engine. They can keep that one to and just pay the shipping on another one. I think that is fare.
Either A 355SBC, A 383 SBC or a 350 Vortec. all longblocks.

I can see If I can give the guy who bought the blower his money back + some for the repairs and I can send the blower back if he will do that

Either way But I will NOT pay for the shipping (I am already getting screwed!!) I don't think its very fair and man do I wish they would admit their wrong doings and tell the truth about the picture.

As far as the Picture. We had many phone conversations also and prior to them sending out the blower They were made aware that the picture was only for reference..

[RiceIsWrong]

Poeple like me Look If phone conversations could be posted you would understand the deal we made.
He was to send out the carbs also.

Thanks for your input though..
You should read everything

[altailites]

Great post Brian and all I can say hes dammmm lucky he did'nt send that junk azzz motor to me :twisted: Josh be a man and do the right thing

[RiceIsWrong]

Josh ( totrade)..i read your engine ad over and over again..No-where did i see you say the picture wasn't the acutal egine you were selling. If it had i would have given you that.

Now i have been around on this site since 2003..and i have seen classified ads with pictures that clearly state "sample Picture"...yours doesn't even come close.

Boonesracing i would print the ad "No doubt"...this was very Misleading and i think the man will have problems just defending his ad if you pushed this issue...IMO

Make it right Josh..forget a minute about lawyers,court and all the Bull crap and concentrate on doing WHATS RIGHT !!

On very small scale this is one Good example of why we ( USA) is in the shape we are today..too many people hollering everything under the sun besides stepping up and doing the right thing.

http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1280424/SBC-383Stroker-504-hp-490-ftlbs-Trades-.html


i was offfended when i pulled up your ad..this is shameful in my opinion.

MAKE IT RIGHT JOSH.


maybe this has done been mentioned somewhwere in the begining of all these post..but here goes anyway..i got to looking at Josh other ads and the 383 small block in the pro-touring 69 camaro sure looks like the same engine used in the picture of the Bum engine ad. ????

http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1330879/1969-Protouring-Camaro-Trades-.html

again maybe this was already noticed ?

Brian

Actually the motor that is in that car was one I purchased from Ad #1205498. Look at the intake Ect.
Proform Valve covers are cheap hell I can send the boones a set of those to...

I have tried numerous times to make this right..

Thanks Though

[Tod74]

http://i37.tinypic.com/10wittc.jpg

those aren't H-BEAM rods either...

[mopar1968]

Hey you need to make this trade right, you had his blower and sold it with a engine, pocket money and send him a junk engine, I have better looking engines that i use parts from.

[ashbros]

Pictures would be great but how bout a name and a phone number of the guy who bought the blower.

What type of blower was this that it only brought 750.00 on resell.

I smell tuna.

[tafc550]

I've got a question.

Why should he have to pay shipping when the engine you shipped was junk? He already payed to ship it once.

Look at the crank.... it has rust on it. Rust takes time to develop, so I would say that your story of "him pouring something over it" is bs.

You are a rip off and the guy was smart enough to catch you. There is not a judge in any court who will side with " I didn't know it was junk that's how I bought it"... You are still responsible for the sale. It is your responsibility to go after the guy who sold you the junk engine. If that is truly what happened :roll:

[ashbros]

I agree with tafc550. If I was the dude that was caught up in a lie like this guy is, I would do everythig i could to get my piece of crap engine back and get him his blower or money back to him to avoid a law suite and possibly jail time

[hollowayshotrods]

Josh,
Read this and think about it.

I did not build this motor although I did run it in my Nova for around 1000 miles or so. I have removed the oil pan and valve covers for inspection. It ran just fine when I pulled it out, installing a big block in the Nova. I will list what I was told is in the motor, like I said I DID NOT build the motor.
I do know:
Block:
3970010 Cast date K 4 9, 2-bolt. Likely has been decked, the stamp pad is machined clean.
Crankshaft:
3932442 Cast Date:A-6-9. I have no idea of the size of the main or rod journals.
Heads:
854434 305 1.75 int. 1.3 exhaust. 1.6 ratio roller rockers.
Rods:
Stock (could be pink rods, not sure though).
Cam:
Supposedly .525 lift Comp Cam, sounds to me as if that is the truth. Motor has a nasty sound for the street.

That is it folks, all I know about the motor. Feel free to ask questions if you have them, will answer if I can. Might trade for a really nice set of Torque Thrust 15" wheels with a 4-3/4" bolt pattern. NO UNILUGS!!

This is a current ad posted by me on Craigslist in Charlotte, NC.

Josh,
This is how an ad should read if you do not know the history or facts of what you are selling. I can't imagine selling ANYTHING that I personally do not know the facts of WITHOUT relaying that to the buyer. You have represented yourself as KNOWING what is in this motor according to your ad. By your emails, you say "That is what he told me"! I do not know if you are a crook or not, but it ain't lookin' good for you dude.

BTW, where are your pictures? Where is the dyno sheet for the advertised hp and torque?

The only way to make it good is give Boone his MONEY back, not another motor, as I have to assume he has lost all faith in your integrity.

Last thing, shut up about the FREE junk carbs he sent you. NOT INCLUDED is what the ad said. I do not know how that even fits into your gripe. :roll:

Always remember, the things you do reflect on your family as well!

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/hollowayshotrods/dads%20pictures/dropkick.jpg

[Scorpion1110]

I have tried to make it right, I offered you another motor you turned it down.

If you buy a car from a dealer and the say it's a 1.8 L then you turn around and sell it as a 1.8 L simply because thats what you where told (same senario). I have said before the motor you recieved is not junk. We can go around and around. If you cover shipping then I can send you another motor.

About the carbs the agreement over the phone was to include the carbs.(SHOWN IN THE PICTURES)!
The cracked intake.. I contacted the guy I sold it to and he has welded them up. (He said he will send pics of the welds).
The Oil leak ( I know nothing about blowers I was told by the guy who bought it the seals were bad) Hence timeframe

This was a trade there was no fraud or scam involved on my part.

YOU KNEW PRIOR TO THE TRADE THAT THE MOTOR IN THE PICTURE WAS REFERENCE ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as not notifiying you / Boonesracing about the blower. Once again I don't know anything about blowers and had no clue that it was junk until someone showed me what what was wrong with it.

You want to go to court that's fine. Let's go I will contact an attorney also.

I will contact UPS and start the Mail fraud process if it is applicable on a trade...

As far as being obligated to provide the parts stated. Thats what I was sold and I have the receipt showing it. I do not know much about building or the internal parts of a motor so If I can't tell the difference in parts how do I know and How can I be obligated to provide parts that I cant tell the difference on. If you sale a car you bought and it's listed as a 400 because that's what you where told but the buyer finds that it's a 350 and you didn't know how to check it are you obligated to send out a 400 even though that's whats on the Bill of sale that you recieved?

As far as reporting I lost money on the deal. My purchase for the motor $2800,(sorry) sale of junk blower $750. don't think I wont give that to my accountant.

Absolutely 100% wrong. You didnt broker the motor(s) did you? Did your add say that you had no idea if the parts referenced were included or did you assert that it was as stated? Did you disclaim in the ad? Thats easy enough for Boones racing to confirm as he has the ad. You deleted it.

You are fully on the hook for everything you listed in the ad and the old "this is what the prior seller told me" line doesn't hold water and wont in court-trust me on that. Essentially, you will have to make good on your stated item to Boonesracing and THEN go back and litigate against the individual who sold and misrepresented the motor to you.

Tell the judge that you didnt know what was in side that motor while Boones has a notarized statement from his machinist comparing your ad to the actual parts removed. You'll be done just about at that point-and the remainder will be discussion of damages.

BTW-sending Boones another motor wont matter if it does not contain the parts that are listed in the ad.

If it ends up in court you are going to be on the hook for the parts and probably his legal fees.

The smart thing would be to take your proceeds from the sale of that 68 Camaro and settle with him immediately.

As for the Accountant Josh, you rolled the blower into the sale of the Camaro-While it will increase your cost basis in the Camaro-you'd better get every cent of profit right or they will come calling- Boones is going to drop a line to the Service on that-

And BTW if Boones knows who you sold it to and the price he can notify the DMV to make sure that buyer declared it correctly for sales tax purposes. It goes on and on and always rolls down hill. Hope it wasnt sold with an open title, or thatd be another legal headache....

Boones-fyi ToTrade deals in first gen Camaros- if you cant settle this you need to go to the Camaros sites- Team Camaro www.Camaros.net , the Camaros Research Group www.camaros.org. Make sure that you locate the other places he trades and make them aware of what he did and the pics. Camaro guys are on those sites all the time.

Boones, There is also a local MD camaro guy (nationally known) that I am familiar with, have bought parts from and see at Carlisle PA swap meets all the time, and who lives about 10 miles away- [JOSH think Camaro parts ID and intake re-skinning]-Let me know if you want me to give him a ring and do some checking on ToTrade.

Later,

Scorp

[Tod74]

It would not matter if the ad did say pic was a reference...the ad says

"4 Bolt Main Block (Two Piece Rear Seal), Eagle 4340 Forged Steel Stroker Crankshaft Assembled With H-Series Clevite Rod And Main Bearings Eagle H-Beam Bushed Connecting Rods W/ARP Rod Bolts (Good For Over 700HP) High Performance SRP Forged Pistons 11.0:1 Compression, Hand Filed Performance Rings, Three Piece Billet Double Roller Timing Set, Crane Performance Roller Camshaft, Crane hydraulic Roller Lifters, Performance Heads 64cc With 230cc Intake Runners, Stainless Steel 2.08 Intake Valves, Stainless Steel 1.60 Exhaust Valves, High Performance Valve Springs And Retainers, 7/16 Screw In Studs And Hardened Guide Plates,Manley Chrome Moly Push Rods, 7/16 - 1.6 Aluminum Roller Rockers, Engine Assembled With All Brand New Bolts, High Volume Oil Pump And Screen, Chrome Oil Pan, Chrome Dip Stick And Tube, Polished Aluminum Timing Cover Professional Products SFI Approved performance balancer, Fel-Pro Performance Gaskets, The Complete Rotating Assembly is Balanced Edelbrock Victor Jr. Intake Manifold Chrome Thermostat Housing, Holley street avenger carb. MSD 8.8 Wires, AC delco plugs, Mini starter 2.5 hp, Crank is ballanced w/ 5oz moly. "

a lot of those parts are clearly NOT on that engine.

[boonesracing]

Josh [quote]Poeple like me Look If phone conversations could be posted you would understand the deal we made.
He was to send out the carbs also You need to stop with that BS because you were told that carb went with my other motor I was nice enough to send out two carbs that I told you needed to be rebuilt!!!!!! I did'nt even have to do that! but.... I thought i was getting a motor not a peice of shit! Also if you really want to get down to it You told me on the phone this motor was RACE READY. all we had to do was drop it in & go Yeah right I would'nt even put the motor you sent me on a go cart much less a 6 or 7 second car!!!!!! That is stupid! Don't be trying to scam your way out of this form because it wont work like they said you thought we were stupid & you got caught!also if the blower intake was cracked then you must have done it .By the way we purchased insurance for it when we shipped it I told you to let us know if it was ok you never did so... There you are! once again with shit on your face :evil: also i would not ever get anything else from you burned one is enough

[fla1976]

Been following this and all I can say is that totrade owes for a blower. I personally wouldn't trust you to send another engine. That piece of crap is nowhere near what you described in your ad. That debris in the pan didn't build up like that over night. Those rods are not "H" beams and the courts will fry you if it gets there. Your best solution is to pay the man for his blower and get your act together. As Rudy states, if you can't verify it you shouldn't declare it. I think you'll find that a reputation is alot harder to repair than a bank account.

[RiceIsWrong]

I did talk to the guy who bought the blower and He said I could buy it back for $950(because of the repairs he has done). If this is sufficient I will do that and send it out to you but there is now way I can pay for shipping on the blower.

[michael1]

If you can pay $950 for the blower then you should be able to pay the shipping.

[RiceIsWrong]

I don't think so. I am already loosing my Ass. But I guess next time i will have someone inspect a motor before I buy it or sell it.

You are so willing to jump on in there and add your 2cents why dont you you pay for shipping.

[Scorpion1110]

I did talk to the guy who bought the blower and He said I could buy it back for $950(because of the repairs he has done). If this is sufficient I will do that and send it out to you but there is now way I can pay for shipping on the blower.

Buy the blower back, ship it to Boone's racing at your cost.

Boone's take the engine to the metal scapper get a price for the scrap cast iron, deduct your gas money and send the difference to totrade.

Deal resolved.

later, Scorp

[RiceIsWrong]

LOOK MAN IT'S NOT LIKE I DID THIS INTENTIONALLY. I NVER MENT TO MESS OVER ANYONE.. I GOT SCREWED TO. I AM ALREADY LOOISING MONEY SO I CAN'T PAY FOR SHIPPING NO TO WAYS ABOUT IT.

THANKS FOR YOU TWO CENTS TOO.

IF YOU CANT PAY FOR SHIPPIMG ON THE BLOWER THEN I GUESS COURT IT IS.

THANKS

[michael1]

You made a deal now it is your responsability to make it right. Just bite the bullet and it will be a done deal, then no one can say that you didn't do your part. Goodluck to both of you.

[RiceIsWrong]

I ALREADY AM BITIN THE BULLIT. LIKE I SAID I CAN'T PAY FOR SHIPPING AND THAT IS FINAL.

I THINK IT PRETTY FAIR CONSIDERING I NEVER MENT TO SCREW ANYONE AROUND ADN I GOT SCREW BUYING THE MOTOR..

[boonesracing]

how could you buy the Blower back when it is listed in the other ad with the motor we were supposed to get when the ad says sold? What did you give him the shaft to? You need to quit whinning about your loss hell look at what we lost a 4000.00 blower with extra parts & 800.00 shipping & a month waiting on you to find a peice of crap motor to ship! you need to suck it up be a man and fix the problem!I would always stand by my word fellow racers never want to screw another racer like I said before we ALL like the spert & we all should stick together we already get took from the parts stores!!!!!!!

[boonesracing]

Thanks scorp I will be in touch! Danny Boone

[RiceIsWrong]

THE BLOWER WAS SOLD SEPERATE FROM THE CAR. THE ADD FOR THE CAR WAS A DIFFERENT ENGINE. NO I DIDN'T GIVE HIM THE SHAFT AND I NEVER MENT FOR YOU TO GET THE SHAFT. I WAS SOLD A BAD MOTOR AND DIDN'T KNOW. LOOK MAN I AM TRING TO MAKE THIS RIGHT

SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO.

THANKS

[fla1976]

If you people would fill out your profiles it would be easier to find possible solutions. There are plenty of racers who travel all over the states for races. If you posted your profiles then maybe someone going in the direction of Boones may be able to drop it off. A blower isn't that hard to crate and ship. It would take up less room than a couple of mounted race slicks. Most racers are a trust worthy lot and would be glad to help out a fellow racer. You could give something towards the gas and that would benefit the transporter. But don't be naive and get ripped off.

[mopar1968]

I have to agree with fla1976, someone racing will probably get it for you, may take a week or so to get it but it can be done, FILL OUT PROFILES :!: :!: To trade you need to look back at the folks seeing what is going on, it is alot better to bite the bullet and get this behind you, some of these folks will remember i lost carbs on here but i done the right thing, something for you to think about. If you want to sell or buy, better play the game right :!: :!:

[RiceIsWrong]

What profile are you talkin about?
If someone can meet me in San Antonio And the Boones are OK with it i will send it back to them..

[boonesracing]

how do we know it is our blower? and the pulleys and belts & pistons were worth $750 ...and you sold it ..how do you just go buy it back?am i the only one not understanding this? i mean this blower that gets sent to me might be junk that wasn't mine...

[michael1]

toTrade, send him some pictures it seems like you are trying to make this right.

[knova70]

ToTrade......Lets see pictures of the actual blower and all its accessories that you were sent in the same condition,In your possession? We all want to see that you have the actual items and that is what is going back to Boone,and he can verify that it is the right blower and the items with it, Sounds good to me what about everybody else?????????

[bjuice]

Mr Boone, As much as i hate to say this i'm going to anyway. I do not think you will totally recover your time or Money on this deal..In order for you to come out as you were before the deal is to UN-DO the Orginal Deal Step for Step..simply just reverse everything......

With this said.I ISSUE A CHALLANGE TO JOSH KIRK......If you make the deal right for Mr Boone..and i mean make it right for him not what you think is right..i will MAKE A NEW POST FOR YOU AND CLEAR YOUR NAME IN THAT JOSH KIRK MADE IT RIGHT AND I WILL LOCK THAT THREAD .this means people reads it but they cannot post anything to it....i have never made this offer to anyone..but i feel Mr Boone and yourself here could use some help before this gets too far out of control.

Now i do not know how you feel about this offer..but i can assure you Reputations is worth a Lot Of Money...Many people are reading this thread ( thousands will end up reading it just not responding)..How do i know this?..i know this cause i am a Moderater on this board which means i montior traffic on each thread..You would be shocked at the people that has read this thread so far....

Now i can let the same people read how you made a deal right..right now your story is a little hard to believe but by making the deal Right with Mr Boone would give me a reason to give your story crediblity..therefore helping you get the word out how you DID THE RIGHT THING.

Again i DO NOT know how you feel about this offer..what i would suggest at a minimum is think about this overnight...

One thing i can assure you that will happen is More and More people will read about you, it will make its way over to the classified ads soon. It will make it to Other boards (sites)..etc..these (forums,Sites) are more close Knit than one may think and word travels FAST AND FURIOUS

this is my last post on this thread..and My one and only offer to help you to get this behind you.

You can take it or Leave it...and i hope you take it for your sake and Mr .Boones.


thanks
Brian






ps
Part of What i do on this Board is TRY TO KEEP THINGS REAL..

[gsforless]

None of my business,but I'd be ALL over that deal!!

Sure wish my dealings with speedy121 and the coilovers would have gotten this far,LOL!

Glen

[michael1]

Take the deal,you need to look at how many deals you will lose out on in the future. Don't make this be the beginning of the end for you. You will definitely get a lot more respect from everyone. just my 2 cents

[gungho]

Josh,I ask you...................................Deal or no Deal????

[boonesracing]

Hey evryone just wanted to updated you Josh changed his name on racing junk from totrade to RiceIsWrong everyone beware of him

[bigray]

it sound like we are getting close to resolving this....dont give up now..and dont go changing your user name totrade....thats not kooool..it makes you look BAD,,

[wvhippie]

I have been reading this post since it started and although I usually read and dont respond. I think it is obvious that MR. Boone didnt get the engine he thought he was trading for. The offer that has been extended by the moderaters is way moore than gracious. Make this deal right. I can assure you you will come out in the end.

[Tod74]

Mr Boone, As much as i hate to say this i'm going to anyway. I do not think you will totally recover your time or Money on this deal..In order for you to come out as you were before the deal is to UN-DO the Orginal Deal Step for Step..simply just reverse everything......

With this said.I ISSUE A CHALLANGE TO JOSH KIRK......If you make the deal right for Mr Boone..and i mean make it right for him not what you think is right..i will MAKE A NEW POST FOR YOU AND CLEAR YOUR NAME IN THAT JOSH KIRK MADE IT RIGHT AND I WILL LOCK THAT THREAD .this means people reads it but they cannot post anything to it....i have never made this offer to anyone..but i feel Mr Boone and yourself here could use some help before this gets too far out of control.

Now i do not know how you feel about this offer..but i can assure you Reputations is worth a Lot Of Money...Many people are reading this thread ( thousands will end up reading it just not responding)..How do i know this?..i know this cause i am a Moderater on this board which means i montior traffic on each thread..You would be shocked at the people that has read this thread so far....

Now i can let the same people read how you made a deal right..right now your story is a little hard to believe but by making the deal Right with Mr Boone would give me a reason to give your story crediblity..therefore helping you get the word out how you DID THE RIGHT THING.

Again i DO NOT know how you feel about this offer..what i would suggest at a minimum is think about this overnight...

One thing i can assure you that will happen is More and More people will read about you, it will make its way over to the classified ads soon. It will make it to Other boards (sites)..etc..these (forums,Sites) are more close Knit than one may think and word travels FAST AND FURIOUS

this is my last post on this thread..and My one and only offer to help you to get this behind you.

You can take it or Leave it...and i hope you take it for your sake and Mr .Boones.


thanks
Brian






ps
Part of What i do on this Board is TRY TO KEEP THINGS REAL..


take it if you're smart.

[RiceIsWrong]

Thats fine with me Send out motor to me and I will also send out blower.. Or keep the motor and use it to pay for the shipping on the blower unless some one is willing to deliver it to them.. I have no problem returning it.. I do need to know something soon so I can get it from th guy who bought it. I leave for work in a few days and will be gone for 21 days in WY.

[boonesracing]

I want to see pics of blower with all the extras & pistons to make sure it is my blower then we will talk

[RiceIsWrong]

Look man I m taking your word that the motor is not what was listed. I had no intention on scewing you around. I will send everthing to you that I recieved. I will try and go to his shop today to get any picutres I can..

[boonesracing]

That will be fine I will be waiting for the pics!

[tommysears]

nothing listed in your ad is in or on that junk motor!! nothing. i bet its not even a 383. roller rockers? none, eagle crank? stock, victor jr? weiand, stock main bolts. that motor is not worth $200 if its running. you know you came out on top of this deal. do you feel good about it? to trade. and you want boones to pay shipping for you to make it right? if you screwed boones this bad, you know you wont make it right.

[boonesracing]

STILL WAITING YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME I AM GETTING READY TO GO TO THE COURT HOUSE! I HAVE TWO DAYS OFF TUES & WEDNESDAY I WILL DO THIS ON ONE OF THESE TWO DAYS. I WAITED A MONTH FOR YOU TO SEND THIS "SO CALLED GREAT" MOTOR I WILL NOT WAIT ANOTHER MONTH!

[RiceIsWrong]

He changed his mind and said he has to much in it to let it go now. He said he had to rebuild the whole thing..

I do have a full roller 383 stroker with AFR aluminum heads. Internally ballanced, 12CC dished pistons, Ect if you would be willing to take it I can send you some pictures..


Like I said I am sorry about the motor deal I had no intention of giving you something that was not correct. I simply listed what I was sold..

[mopar1968]

:? :? Now ''totrade'' you are changing what you have been saying, You are taking his word that ,that isn't the motor listed :?: now i am confused, if i am correct you stated the motor in the pic was reference only :!: What you need to do is pay for the blower,

[RiceIsWrong]

What I am saying is that everything listed was what I was told the motor had when I bought it.. All I am tring to do is clear my name of any wrong doing & make this right and If I had the cash dont you think I would have bought the blower instead of trade for it..

Like I said I will not pay for any shipping!! I AM ALREADY LOOSING A LOT OF MONEY AS IT IS..

I cannot get the blower back now!!

I can take pics of the motor I do have and email them to the boones. If they agree then I will send them the motor..

I Did NOT have any intentions of screwing anyone over!!

If the boones cannot except my offer to make it right on his word. Then do what you have to do!!

Thanks

[boonesracing]

He changed his mind and said he has to much in it to let it go now. He said he had to rebuild the whole thing
I HATE TO SayTHIS BUT THAT IS B.S. NOTHING ON THAT BLOWER NEEDED TO BE REBUILT ECT THE CARBS!!!!!!!!!!!!! SEND ME SOME PICS OF THE MOTOR & WE WILL SEE WHAT IT IS I WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING ON SHIPPING IF THE MOTOR IS WORTH IT I AM NOT ON HERE TO MAKE ENMIES WITH YOU I JUST WANT WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY MINE IF THE NEW MOTOR IS TRULY WHAT YOU SAY IT IS THEN MAYBE WE CAN WORK THIS OUT! How do you know what is in this motor for sure?

[RiceIsWrong]

195cc Air Flow Research heads, Forged speed pro -12cc dished pistons, eagle H-beams rods, Forged steel crank. The block is .030 over and has steel 4-bolt splayed main caps. Crane roller cam 234i/242e .547i/.558e. Roller Rockers, forged pushrods, crane valve springs. ARP studs and bolts Performer RPM intake manifold. Everything is balanced and blue printed.

One of the guys who I trade very often with built the motor and I have know him a very long time..

What is listed is in this motor!!

[boonesracing]

Will I have to wait a month to get this? Will you split the shipping with me? I just spent 500$ on shipping for on that is bad! I am gonna take your word once again If you will split the shipping ship it to me tomorrow, If it is like you say it is I will be the first on to come on here & let everyone know you made it good and clear your name! Thank You

[outlaw256]

ive read this thread from the beginning and waited to see if someone would catch what totrade kept saying. first he says he knows only what he was told about this motor. but yet he rambles off a list of parts.and on the bottom of his add he says he has 8500.00 in parts in this motor. not i got 8500.00 tied up in this motor, but 8500.00 in PARTS IN THIS MOTOR.and in one of his replies he states he doesnt know much about mtrs. but yet he can spout off a parts list that would make a hell of a engine.he ripped the boones off and got caught, now hes trying to get his butt out off trouble not to do whats right.and he dont want to spend his money to get out of it, if he can help it.stealing is stealing no matter what.and this guy is going to get away with it because hes giving what he stole back. im glad for booneracing but this guy should be hung after its all over and i mean hung by the law not us citizens! im so damn mad and i dont know why. i guess i just got old and im tired of seeing people like him whine and cry then get to walk away.people like him ( and lawmakers) have ruined my country

[boonesracing]

OUTLAW256 I do agree with everything you stated in your post I just want what is rightfuly mine so I can go racin!!!!!! He did get caught which is why I stared this thread so everyone could see if he sends me what I am supposed to have then I'll be ok with that I will NEVER forget about it & probly have a hard time trusting anyone that far away again. But we will see what happens today! If he dont make it good he will not get away with it Trust me on that one!

[RiceIsWrong]

Once again I never ment to rip off anyone.. Is it a crime to say that you have (and sorry it was 2800) My mistake. in a motor (no). Again think what you will but I truly never ment to rip anyone off. I can list parts YES I am glad you can see that. What was listed was the same list given to me on the receipt. as far as the other motor and the one ni my 69 or 67 canaro yes I can list that to because they came from a machine shop.

Thanks

Boones I will pay for $100 on the shipping and send it Central freight Lines with a tracking number.. Also Pics will be on the way..

Could you send me your address again.
Thanks.

[fast72buick]

It's good and all about ToTrade wanting to make this right but this is a situation that should have never happened.
I don't buy the horseshyt line of I payed $2800 for this engine and am going off what i was told was in it not One bit.
That engine is a hunk of shyt in the photos not only by Interior appearance but exterior appearance, Could have went out to your truck/buddies car which runs a stock V8 and seen there 100K mile truck engine looked nicer.
That is a Bonestock wore-out 350 in them photos if one who sells/trades often could not figure that out or Know that then they should stick to knitting blankets as it clearly shows there clueless as to anything mechanical.
Hope you do get it taken care of Boones, I myself would have flown down to Tx. taken care of business then drove a rental car back, It'd had the engine out of the Camaro in the trunk

[boonesracing]

Ok just to let everyone know Josh has sent out a motor today,& HE IS PAYING 1/2 OF THE SHIPPING. i WILL KEEP EVERYONE POSTED WHEN I RECIVE IT :|

[altailites]

Great news .looks like josh is turning out to be a good guy :D

[razorblade]

He knew from the get-go that he was gonna screw the guy with the blower from the start!!!

He just didn't figure that it would go this far and get caught for it.... :shock:

[outlaw256]

goodguy my a$$, hes a theif that got caught and is trying to cover his a$$!!!l

[boonesracing]

Shipment is in route will keep you posted.

[RiceIsWrong]

You know You people always seem to amaze me. I made a mistake by listing something with out verifying. Now I try to make it right and there is just more critisizm from poeple. That's probally why more people dont come on here and stand up for themselves..
It really is easier to leave it alone

Thanks

[michael1]

toTrade, you may have done wrong but at least you are trying to make it right. Next time you do a trade just check everything out first. Good luck in the future.

[boonesracing]

Josh I need for you to call me as soon as you read this there is a problem with the shipping charges that you told me!

[gungho]

Wow,thats a surprise.

[outlaw256]

a honest person will defend his name and rep. but a theif will grab his A$$ and run or lie till he just runs out of wind.

[boonesracing]

Just to let everyone know he did call me back right away & he is trying to take care of the shipping problem. I will keep you posted

[THERATTLER]

without verifing???????????you mean without even looking at it,don't you..
if you can't look at that motor and tell it isn't what you said it was , you don't need to be fooling with engines..rather on selling them..just my thoughts. :roll:

[gsforless]

Ok,I'm gonna ask the question everyone wants to know the answer to....

What happened on this deal??!!

Glen

[bigray]

I think the motor is in transport.we will wait for it to get there.then we will know..

[boonesracing]

The motor is to be delivered tomorrow {Monday } I will let everyone know what happens at that point.

[michael1]

I sure hope he made good on this for both of you. We really need to help each other in times like this.

[mopar1968]

:? :? Well did it arrive :?: :?: What shape :?: :?:

[TheRabbit]

:? :? Well did it arrive :?: :?: What shape :?: :?:
What he said x 2 !!

[lively]

:? :? Well did it arrive :?: :?: What shape :?: :?:

ENOUGH ALREADY---------DID YOU GET IT OR NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tommysears]

whats up boones? did you get it yet? post pics.

[boonesracing]

Ok here it is did not get it yet! spent half the afternoon on the phone with the shipping company! The shipping was way to high so we had to work it out before we get it. The motor is in Mobile Ala 30 mins from us. They finally reduced the shipping for us so it will be delivered tomorrow in the A.M. So to answer your questions NO NOT YET!!! Will post pics as soon as we get the thing. Trust me I will keep everyone informed on this I will not let this slip by us!!!!! Races have to stick together & help each other out!!!!!

[boonesracing]

Ok Y'all here it is . so far we recived what was pictured in the email Josh sent us, But... really wont know anything else until we pull the oil pan this afternoon. will post pics then.

[fla1976]

I hope Josh turns out to be an honorable seller.

[mopar1968]

:) :) I hope this is laid to rest and you both are happy.

[knova70]

PICTURES?

[boonesracing]

Ok everyone so far everything looks to be good on this new motor. there is no starter or disturbuter but all looks good inside the motor, Josh is also paying for 1/2 of the shipping So it looks as though he came through... This is what we recived.http://i33.tinypic.com/jkws3b.jpg



http://i37.tinypic.com/10fw5xu.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/jrv2iq.jpg

[boonesracing]

http://i37.tinypic.com/2pqt6h0.jpg



[img]http://i35.tinypic.com/30xby4o.jpg[/img

[gungho]

boones,I know this has nothing to do with the motor deal,but why do you paint your toenails red??????? :lol:

[hollowayshotrods]

LMAO gungho! Glad to see it is working out boones!

[bigray]

dont look like a good trade for a 3000.00 blower ?????

[knova70]

Doesn't look like the new motor in his ad? Tell me something?Are those heads on that motor a matching pair? they look different from each other in the picture? Does any body else see this?????????????

[bigray]

I am getting a bad feeling...again

[mopar1968]

:? Looks like different heads to me, but as long as the both of them is happy that is what counts. :D :D

[hammertime]

Doesn't look like the new motor in his ad? Tell me something?Are those heads on that motor a matching pair? they look different from each other in the picture? Does any body else see this?????????????

I agree ... looks different side to side for sure.

[boonesracing]

Nope same heads on both sides AFR heads it is printed on both heads. as far as we can see with out pulling them they are the same. pulled the oil pan all looks good so far no metal!!!! I want to belive He is doing the right thing this time. Will put it back together this week hope to go to test & tune at my local track this weekend I will find out more then! I really want to Thank all of you on racing junk because I belive without all of your help this may not have been resolved! If there is anything I can do to help any of you out let me know. email me. To gungho: Red is very nice, Makes you go faster!!!!!! When Josh sends the other half of the shipping I will also let y'all know

[fast72buick]

Glad you got a engine.
On a sidenote I would definatelty tear that thing apart down to bare block and check it all out and install new bearings,rings,possibly valvesprings,etc.
Just by looking at it that engine has ALOT of runtime on it to be that cruddy.

[RiceIsWrong]

There is not a lot of time on that motor, the front seal on the timing cover was leaking and the power steering pump blew a hose..
The motor is in good shape!!

Thanks

You know someone tries to make things right and there is always someone else you tries to keep the drama going. :roll:

[gungho]

500 h.p. with a dual plane intake,I need that recipe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock:

[Tod74]

Glad you got a engine.
On a sidenote I would definatelty tear that thing apart down to bare block and check it all out and install new bearings,rings,possibly valvesprings,etc.
Just by looking at it that engine has ALOT of runtime on it to be that cruddy.

X2!!! I hope you are the one that took the rag,plug, whatever out of the hole for the distributor...and why is there only 4 bolts in the intake? Were these pics taken after you tore into it? I hope so...I wouldn't leave mine open like that for 5 minutes much less ship it that way. Hope you get something you are happy with...

[outlaw256]

hey boones, dont mean to be critical buddy but you dont need to wear those shoes when your working out in the shop.dont take this wrong but you got pretty feet!!!! lol

[boonesracing]

Those shoes make me go faster!!!!

[mopar1968]

:lol: :lol: Ok now explain the nail polish :?: :?:

[TheRabbit]

one man's junk is another man's treasure!!! It may be a good motor, but nothing I want or would use. Maybe some decent parts inside, but :?: :?: :?:

[boonesracing]

It looks nice goes with the shoes :wink:

[tafc550]

Give it up guys!!!

Boonesracing is happy ....

Totrade is happy....

some of you guys are drama queen's...

[mopar1968]

I agree if both are happy, please drop it :!: my 2 cents worth, thanks

[michael1]

I agree, glad they are both happy

[alexu]

Add says H BEAM rods. Pic shows a retaining nut instead of a capscrew which all H BEAMS carry. Dead giveaway.

[boonesracing]

Hopefully gonna go racing tomorrow. Got pretty much everything on motor. Will keep you posted

[jayss10]

did the motor do ok at the track we want to know.....JAY

[boonesracing]

It did not do what we wanted loaded up after 2 runs still trying to get it right, changing carbs ect.. it sounds good though still waiting on 1/2 of the shipping from him though! will keep you posted.

[bjuice]

Just Curious what did you expect it to do ..and what did the car run ?

[boonesracing]

Was hoping for at least a 7.0 but ran it last night adjusted the timing & changes a few things & it is dialed in.

[bjuice]

Was hoping for at least a 7.0 but ran it last night adjusted the timing & changes a few thins & it is dialed in.

what did it run :?:

[topsportsman1]

still waiting on 1/2 of the shipping from him though! will keep you posted.

Didn't you pay the shipping on the 1 st POS he sent you? And you got how much tied up with this guy?

Good luck on getting any money from this guy,he's a pretty smooth salesman

Does someone have to nudge this guy to come back here and finalize his end of the deal? Or is he waiting for his welfare check to get there?

[boonesracing]

Well took it out tonight it ran7.0. we wanted it to run 7.0 it is going to be a heads up 7.0 car & some bracket racing We have found out the motor is a 355 motor. anyway yes we paid for shipping on the first pos we got. got an email from Josh he is working out of town will send 1/2 of shipping when he gets home! we will see :?: I forgot to mention that was with a .003 light :D

[RiceIsWrong]

Real Funny I have been in contact with the Boones and Explained that I work for three weeks at a time 21/21 rotation which they were aware of and as soon as I get home they will recieve 1/2 the shipping.. I never ment for anyone to get a bad motor..

Why is there someone who is always willing to talk $#!T and they have no Idea what is going on..
Oh yea and Welfare.. pretty lame
Hopefully someday someone will hide your check under your work boots! :D

[topsportsman1]

We have found out the motor is a 355 motor.

Hmmm I thought you traded this salesman for a 383 stroker? Where did that engine go?Nice bait and switch,with junk.

http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1280424/SBC-383Stroker-504-hp-490-ftlbs-Trades-.html

Looks like someone ought to get honest and quit droping the ball with excuses.Instead of selling people junk and screw them to death.

It gets so you just can't trust anyone any more.

Hey Josh are you that gullable to believe the good friends you buy this junk from?And expect to pass this on to paying or trading customers,yeah I talk shit,wouldn't you? This doesn't look good on your end here Josh,I'd be sending this guy back more money,

Heck he could have bought a new crate engine by now(and had a 1 year gaurentee) and had money in his pocket,guys like you give good reputalble sellers here on RJ a bad name. You screwed this guy to the pole,not once but TWICE. But then again your a pretty smooth talker,that likes to bait and switch with people.

Where have all the honest people gone?

[topsportsman1]

Real Funny I have been in contact with the Boones and Explained that I work for three weeks at a time 21/21 rotation which they were aware of and as soon as I get home they will recieve 1/2 the shipping.. I never ment for anyone to get a bad motor..

Why is there someone who is always willing to talk $#!T and they have no Idea what is going on..
Oh yea and Welfare.. pretty lame
Hopefully someday someone will hide your check under your work boots! :D

More EXCUSES

I got a pretty good idea whats going on Josh,I been following this thread since day 1 and I am going to say what I feel NOW.

There is one thing I can't stand is a talker like yourself,your the one that plays DUMB and passes junk off to people,this thread is a GOOD example.

Josh you got the game down pat,your pretty good at playing dumb,but I got news for you,I was born at night,but not last night!

Its guys like you that make things difficult to trade/sell here at RJ that are honest,oh I forgot
Every thing you pass off at people are from what your buddy or friends said it was.Good excuse.

Now pay Mr.Boone what he has coming to him,altho its been a couple weeks now he had to anny up the shipping again,I think you should pay the full shipping on this last deal,just to make things right.

You got caught peddling junk no question in my mind.Now pay the man his money on the shipping. Not just 1/2 either Mr Boone has paid for shipping twice now.

Oh and my check,LOL
I have earned every thing I ever got in my lifetime and I can say I never screwed not one person on any thing,unlike you,you've only screwed Mr Boone Twice now Pay the man his $303.00 for the shipping.Why should he pay it twice and you sent him junk both times,and yeah I'm talking about the 355 too when it should have been as advertised as the 383 bla bla bla like it says in the add.

Oh yeah and by the way,where is the 8.8 mm wires,and the mini starter that went with that junk engine? Or was that another bait and switch?
And another thing einstine they use mallory not moly to balance crankshafts.
Read you own add here and tell me WHO got screwed

http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1280424/SBC-383Stroker-504-hp-490-ftlbs-Trades-.html

Your a swindler

[michael1]

I like your style topsportsman1. I sold a couple of dominators on here about a month ago and I sent them out a day late so I through in the four anodized fittings for the guy and he called and thinked me and he still received them two days earlier than he thought he would.You will never get anywhere in life by screwing people over. Racers need to support each other. If he don't pay his half of the shipping we can all pitch in a couple of bucks through you on here and whatever you get over that amount donate it this site to keep it going. JMO

[boonesracing]

Still waiting on Josh for the shipping!

[bbchevy]

How will He send the Rest of those CUBIC Inches???Special DELIVERY....Or Priority MAIL...................?
Later
G 8)

[Harbone]

topsportsman,
the excuse of its "what my buddy, friend or the guy I got it from says it was" gets old. I got burned by ham10 on a car and he used the same excuse. if you dont know FOR SURE what it is you better confirm it before trying to twist it off in someone elses ars!

Chris

[Scorpion1110]

topsportsman,
the excuse of its "what my buddy, friend or the guy I got it from says it was" gets old. I got burned by ham10 on a car and he used the same excuse. if you dont know FOR SURE what it is you better confirm it before trying to twist it off in someone elses ars!

Chris

AKA plausible deniability. There was never any intent from Ham10 or ToTrade to make good.

ToTrade or Not ToTrade that is the question. Y'all know the answer.

(My apologies to a great playwright for corrupting his words)

Scorp

[TheRabbit]

I like your style topsportsman1. I sold a couple of dominators on here about a month ago and I sent them out a day late so I through in the four anodized fittings for the guy and he called and thinked me and he still received them two days earlier than he thought he would.You will never get anywhere in life by screwing people over. Racers need to support each other.
Good to know somebody was generous enough to give more than the deal was suppose to be. I would have sent you another check for the extra parts just so we both felt we made an honest trade. like you I usually loose on selling used parts, because I want people to feel that I'm honest and that they got more than they paid for!!

michael1 thanks for your honesty!! need more people like us!!
This thread may go on forever, but bottom line this was not just one bad deal but several bad deals to cover up 1 big screwing!

[topsportsman1]

Still waiting on Josh for the shipping!

I wonder how long it takes to mail out a check for ALL the shipping?

The mail must be coming by turtle express.

Hey Josh,I seen you here many times checking to see if anyone responds,but we been waiting on you and the crickets.

Send this man his money back and quit with the excuses,you've done run out of excuses.

Maybe Mr.Boone can send the lawman to your door to collect

[boonesracing]

Hey just to let everyone know Josh sent the check for 1/2 of the shipping. He sent it ups overnight. Just talked to him yesterday & he said he was gonna send it and he did.

[hollowayshotrods]

Man, that is really very cool!! I gotta say, I thought that money was gone.

[TheRabbit]

Hey just to let everyone know Josh sent the check for 1/2 of the shipping. He sent it ups overnight. Just talked to him yesterday & he said he was gonna send it and he did.

boonesracing if you're happy i'm happy ( I hope it doesn't ...) and u're a much better man than most! but if you hadn't posted this and all the added comments about this you would have never gotten anything from this guy. at least he did somewhat make things right and I commend him for finally keeping his word! I hope you never have to go through such a bad deal again and please remember, not everybody is this hard to deal with.

[mopar1968]

:shock: Where is ''totrade'' is he gone :?: :?:

[Scorpion1110]

Over 170 responses to Boone's original post. Thats what it took to free up this bottle neck and get a resolution-and thats just via peer pressure.

Boones was a gentleman and settled ultimately for less than he was entitled, if just because of his added expense and negotiation of a resolution. The motor he got did not in any way equate to what was pictured-neither engine.

Compare the parts as other users have done.

Saying the picture is just a representation is a gaurantee that you will get something lesser-no matter who you are dealing with.

Will this happen again? Not in the near term, but as this thread cools down I think the risk associated with toTrade will increase. The only safety is vigilence.

Boones once again, congrats on feeling whole on this-With holidays coming up I am glad to hear that.

Scorp

[RiceIsWrong]

You know I am glad to see that everyone thinks that this post is what resolved the issue. Once again I never ment to screw anyone over I am soory its a bad deal.. It really is sad to see everyone so narrow minded and set on the fact that I was out to do someone wong..

Well Thanks.

[lively]

to trade----i do think you are doing the right thing by getting the shipping money sent----but---you need to completely check things out with your friends/buddies/ or whoever """ before""" you put something for sale and then if it is not what you advertised -please be man enough to make it right!!!!
most of us on here have been doing this for a long time[i have for over 30 yrs]--so if someone gets crooked on here and can prove it we do and will battle for what is right and honest 8) 8)
welcome to reality and sell and trade the right way
LIVELY

[bjuice]

You know I am glad to see that everyone thinks that this post is what resolved the issue. Once again I never ment to screw anyone over I am soory its a bad deal.. It really is sad to see everyone so narrow minded and set on the fact that I was out to do someone wong..

Well Thanks.



nahhhh come on Now...The Thread did not Hurt at Worse case.....and the folks that responded to this thread are not as narrow minded as you would like to believe..you sort of set the Tone for the opinions expressed from square one

but listen..you made it right..carry this thing on out with Dignity and by all means hang around with us and participate on the forum..i think you will find some friends here and some advise and help should you need it.

i can assure you us Narrow Minded bench racers/Forum Junkies will be the 1st to stand in for you should anything go wrong for you on a deal....count on it......



Brian


ps.....as far as making a new thread for you.."Boonesracing"..beat me to that weeks ago..besides it a much better deal for you the other party making that post.

[jayss10]

WOW I CANT BELIEVE HE REALLY SEZ HE DIDNT KNOW THAT PIECE OF CRAP HE SENT THE GUY WAS A GOOD MOTOR,GOD A 5 YO KID COULD LOOK AT IT AND SEE IT WASNT THE MOTOR AS STATED TO BE SENT.....HE SENT A PEICE OF CRAP AND KNEW IT,LOOK AT THE PICS ,CAN ANYONE HERE SAY THEY BELIEVE HE SENT IT, THINKING IT WAS WHAT WAS STATED.....HE IS USING CRAP TO EXPLAIN THE DEAL THAT HIS FRIEND LIED TO HIM,NO WAY DID HE TRADE FOR OR BUY THAT MOTOR FOR MORE THAN 100.0O,WOW THIS WAS THE CRAZIEST ENDING FOR A DEAL IVE HAVE SEEN IN A LONG WHILE,MAYBE BOONE IS HAPPY ,I DONT BELIEVE THAT EITHER ,HE PAID FOR A 383 ,NOT A 355 ,AND THE INTAKE ISNT RIGHT ,CAM OR ANYTHING IN IT........JUST MY FEELING I WOULD NEVER DO BUSS. WITH TOTRADE EVER, AND I HAVE MARKED THAT IN MY LITTLE BRAIN,IM SURE IF EVERYONE ON HERE IS HONEST THEY WONT EITHER....ID LIKE TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE HERE WHO WOULD DO BUSS WITH THIS JERK AND BELIEVES HE DIDNT KNOW THE MOTOR WAS CRAP......ME I SAY I WONT DO ANY BUSS. WITH THIS JERK AND HE KNEW IT WAS A PEICE OF CRAP, WHOS NEXT TO ANSWER, IF WE BE HONEST MAYBE OTHER RIP OFFS WILL SEE THIS AND SEE IT WILL HURT YOU AS LONG AS YOUR A MEMBER ..........JAY

[mopar1968]

It's a known fact that we ''ALL'' make mistakes in life Sadly that's part of life, but when we make those mistakes we need to try to correct them, not letting them fester like some of them on here has, And ''totrade'' you probably were told it was a good engine, but please in the future check things out before reselling them, But as far as being narrow minded, i don't think no-one on here was narrow minded, it was brought here to be resolved, and it was, sure someone had to loose, again part of life and a learning experience. ''totrade'' as far as i am concerned you are welcome here anytime, just join right in. glad it worked out, sounds like the 2nd engine is working out fine. My two cents worth.

[boonesracing]

The reason I started this post was because I felt like it would bring this to everyone's attention, and it did I hate to see good people get ripped off! As far as trading anything again probly not this kinda broke me for awhile or at least I won't trade with anyone out of town! I still want everyone to be aware that this stuff happens to people & If you make it know to others then SOMETIMES IT WILL GET RESOLVED. As far as the second motor No I am not complety happy with it I was supposed to get a 383 but I did not! But I guess I have to take what I can without complety losing out! I still feel as though I got taken But I will be very causious in the future! Thanks for everyone help Danny Boonesracing

[TheRabbit]

jayss10. I think you're right, but I think boonesracing really just wants this ended! everybody knows what happened, but I will take boones side on this. He's gotten something he did not buy, but he's willing to end this just to get it over with. It's just not worth what it will take to get this guy in court. It's sad, but i understand! THE NEXT PERSON HE DOES THIS TO MAY NOT BE SO NICE! jmo!
and I am glad it's finally put to rest for both parties.

[jayss10]

YES I AGREE,MY THING IS IM SAYING THIS GUY IS A SCAM AND WE SHOULD NOT GIVE HIM A PASS ON WHAT HE DID,I KNOW THAT BOONE IS THROUGH WITH IT,BUT WE GOT SOME GOOD INFO ON TOTRADE, AND WE SHOULD ALL AVOID DEALING WITH HIM IS MY MEANING,NOT TRYING TO KEEP THE BOONE THING GOING ,IM GLAD BOONE GOT SOMETHING, BUT NOW ITS TIME TO GET THE HEAT ON THESE WORTHLESS PEICES OF CRAP,DONT DEAL WITH THEM EVER ..........JUST BECAUSE HE THREW BOONE A BONE, DONT MAKE HIM OK NOW,THATS MY 2 CENTS WORTH,AND THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL HE DIDNT KNOW THAT WAS WHAT HE SAID IT WAS,DID YOU LOOK AT THE PICS OF THAT MOTOR,IM NOT GIVING HIM THE BENIFIT OF DOUBT ,ANY PERSON WOULD KNOW THAT WASNT A NEW MOTOR ....PLESEEEEE

[hollowayshotrods]

I have to say, I agree with both of you guys.
Rabbit,
I do believe Boone didn't get nearly what he should have. I think he settled because he is ready to be done with it and move on to more important things. You know the old saying about "cutting my losses". It would be just more time, effort, stress, etc. than it would really be worth.

I must say I agree with jayss10 as well. I am continuing a thread, (started by doughboy) on traderguy from Ashland Ky, in hopes that NOBODY ELSE gets screwed like I, and several others on RJ have been by Keith aka "traderguy". To let it rest would allow time for the scammers to lay low and be forgotten about, all the while they are bondoing up their next rip off. I know my deal is done with Keith the Thief, I will recoup none of my loss, I can live with that, but if I can help someone avoid having to post a thread about Keith the Thief ripping them off, well, I find myself obligated to do so. To be diligant in keeping these guys on the top of the list would make some of them leave, hell, who knows, maybe RJ will become known as the place NOT to go if you are a thief.


jmo on keeping these thieves and scammers popular :!: :!: 8)

[TheRabbit]

I guess i was saying that the motor deal was put to rest, not the fraud that was commited. I just think boones is tired of all this and i understand, but he'll never forget it or do bis with this pos again.
i can only say i hope the pos gets something in return and if that's from his name being posted everywhere on the www as a scammer just like a bad check is hung on the counter in one of those good old country stores. i think he deserves every post we have about him. I hope somebody does him twice as bad as he did boones. I'm just glad boones can rest over this bad deal. btw I BELIEVE IN AN EYE FOR AN EYE or DEATH PENALTY. whichever the victim prefers!!

[boonesracing]

I guess i was saying that the motor deal was put to rest, not the fraud that was commited. I just think boones is tired of all this and i understand, but he'll never forget it or do bis with this pos again.
i can only say i hope the pos gets something in return and if that's from his name being posted everywhere on the www as a scammer just like a bad check is hung on the counter in one of those good old country stores. i think he deserves every post we have about him. I hope somebody does him twice as bad as he did boones. I'm just glad boones can rest over this bad deal. btw I BELIEVE IN AN EYE FOR AN EYE or DEATH PENALTY. whichever the victim prefers!! I do agree with all of you on this! But.. I just want to race!!! I have learned a great deal with this post. I relize there are still alot of people out there who still stand together & belive it or not they all agree with me!!! And as far as Josh saying that some people on here are narrow minded, I belive that is why I started this post to begin with :roll: The fact that he WAS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING until I posted this tells me just that! I still have faith in most people I'm just alot more careful now!

[jayss10]

amen boone, id like to add you to my friends list, and all you other honest people, so we can stay in touch,i feel like this has made some of us closer and also has given me a few people that i would deal with ,boone id deal with you anytime,and that goes for the others on here who have stood up for boone,i think we can call us a group who arent going to take this anymore,boone your a very understanding guy,i hope totrade relizes he just met a very nice and straight up guy ,he has to live with what he has done ,but he also has to know that there are some guys here that know him now,and he will never be able to roam free anymore on racingjunk,this is a very popular post,so most members will see it and watch for him in future im sure.........so all of you scam guys look and learn,boone might have agreed to settle with him but the rest of us will always be looking for thses type and i dont think any of us will deal with totrade any more....JAY

[boonesracing]

Thanks alot guys! amen Jay you can add me anytime keep in touch!