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[vaberline]

person with ad#1286784 is the same one with ad#1266634. he has changed his login name and address of location. still the same pic and the same place he lives.buyer beware

[wlpatterson]

Did you email him & inquire as to why?

[tommysears]

dont look like no scammer to me. just looks like using two screen names to post more ads.

[mopar1968]

I have posted many ads under same name! Why have two ?

[tommysears]

basic members can only post 2 ads at a time.

[vaberline]

read my other buyer beware posted early. i think on the 4th 0f aug.

[Tod74]

So have you or someone else actually been scammed by this guy? or are you just assuming he is a scammer based on seeing the two ads? just curious.

[vaberline]

i was scammed brcause he said he would trade and didn't after i drove 1200 mi. and i had sent him all my pics that he had asked for of my trade . so i took him to court and won my case.

[Tod74]

i was scammed brcause he said he would trade and didn't after i drove 1200 mi. and i had sent him all my pics that he had asked for of my trade . so i took him to court and won my case.

OH...I didn't realise this was the same guy from the other thread. sorry

[mopar1968]

Well the way i see it if he want's to post more than one ad then pay like the rest of us do!!!!!!

[vaberline]

he isn't paying fro anything.it is free to post on rc.

[blubals1929]

Well the way i see it if he want's to post more than one ad then pay like the rest of us do!!!!!! see ad 1287518

[blubals1929]

i was scammed brcause he said he would trade and didn't after i drove 1200 mi. and i had sent him all my pics that he had asked for of my trade . so i took him to court and won my case.

OH...I didn't realise this was the same guy from the other thread. sorry see ad1287518

[Scorpion1110]

i was scammed brcause he said he would trade and didn't after i drove 1200 mi. and i had sent him all my pics that he had asked for of my trade . so i took him to court and won my case.

What state did you win your judgement in? Very curious.

Later,

Scorp

[lively]

JUST BECAUSE YOU WON IN COURT DOES NOT MEAN YOU GOT ANY MONEY :oops:

WHAT KIND OF SETTLEMENT DID YOU GET?? DID HE GET PROSECUTED OR FINED OR ???

JUST CURIOUS / THAT'S ALL 8) 8) 8)

LIVELY

[vaberline]

yes i took him to court here in fl.he lost and now i have a money judgement against him for my expenses to deliver and return home to fl.i have won my case in fl. and had it registered in il. the state he lives in . now if he trys to sell his house or try to get credit it will show up on his report that he has a lein against him for my money. I probably won't get a dime ,but i have the satisfaction of winning my case, and maybe make him sweat a little. if it does it was worth it.

[Scorpion1110]

So it sounds like you won a default judgement because you sued him in your state and he did not travel to defend. You then had the default judgement transferred. Why didnt you seek to garnish wages? I am curious.

It also sounds like you sued him for your expenses as a result of the deal collapsing. Is that correct? The other party claims you misrepresented your item in trade. That probably did not come up because he did not travel to defend.

I have read that its not uncommon for a party (plaintiff) to sue another party (defendant) in the plantiff's home state and count on the defendant not traveling to defend and thus win a default judgement. It was my understanding that you had to sue the defendant in their home state for just this reason-However for a corporation of course you can sue them in any state that they do business in.

With regard to the Internet, there is some state law that suggests that by advertising on the internet and because you reach every state you are able to be sued in any state, similar to a corporation. I have read that Michigan has that state law and perhaps Florida does as well.

If the the party who was sued were to check state law in FL and their home state they could probably file to overturn the default judgement.

It would seem this was a his word versus his word scenario, and both parties were not 100% in agreement on the trade. Why didnt you just offer to split the travel cost given you both werent 100% satisfied?

Honestly, if I were the defendant I would probably sue you in my home state for misrepresenting the vehicle for the exact same amount, require you to defend, and if you didnt, transfer the judgement to Florida. Quid Pro Quo.

Just my two cents and based on a few law courses and a lot of Internet research.

Later, Scorp

[mopar1968]

:? :? Can someone please tell me who ''skatou'' is? Boy did i just get a message from him/her, i have no idea who this is. I got this tonight!---- ive been a member for a while dachief is my uncle he is not a club member and i am.So i listed it for him so i can post more pics where is the scam? my way of payment is cash not visa or paypal or cheque as the real scammers like to put it.
HERE IS THE TRUE STORY ABOUT THE GUY DRIVING 1200 MILES AND MY UNCLE NOT WANTING TO TRADE.THIS CAR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A BEAUTIFUL FRAME OFF RESTO! BUT IT WAS NOT! SO I WAS TOLD BY MY UNCLE WHO HAS HAD HUNDREDS OF CLASSIC CARS IN HIS LIFE.HE WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT TRADING BUT WHEN HE SEES THE CAR IT IS A GARAGE PAINT JOB,BONDO POPING OUT THE SIZE OF HALF DOLLARS ON THE REAR QUARTERS OVER ALL NOT WORTH THE TRADE FOR MY UNCLES 31 DODGE. MY SUGGESTION IS NEXT TIME YOU ARE GONNA TRADE BE REAL ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE ITS YOUR OWN FAULT GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON. THANKS MY ADD # IS 1286784 IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ANYMORE OR HAS ANY QUESTIONS



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[skatou]

VABERLINE IS SAYING THAT MY UNCLE IS A SCAMMER DACHIEF1951 AND HAS HIS CAR LISTED UNDER 2 DIFFERENT NAMES HE DOESNT. I HAVE THE CAR LISTED FOR HIM BECAUSE I AM A MEMBER AND CAN LIST MORE PICS.I STAYED OUT OF THIS B.S TILL HE PUT ME IN IT. HE IS UNTRUTHFUL AND FULL OF IT. IF YOUR CAR WAS A PIECE OF CRAP YOU SHOULDNT SAY IT WAS A FRAME OFF RESTO.TO BAD YOU CANT BE SUED FOR BEING A LIAR YOUR OWN STUPIDITY IS THE ONLY THING TO BLAME VABERLINE.

[vaberline]

the car was as stated . if "your uncle" would have looked at the pics that i had sent him and i had brought with me he would have send that it was a restoration. i even took pics of the underside of the car and any other pics that he wanted,but NO he didn't even want to look at the pics of the restoration that i had with me. i alos had a couple of thousand dollars worth of extra parts that i was going to just give him.
well anyway i have sold the car and the party that i sold it to was very happy with the deal.
his "uncle" would even offer to help pay for the expenses. If the man would have responded to my e-mail I would have offered to split the expenses, but he wouldn't answer my e-mail.
he did have them listed under 2 names and i have the ads to prove it because i am saving everything that is put on this site . if i wanted to i could probably sue him for slander for calling me a liar because like i stated before i had and still have all the pics. of the car in question.
thanks for the time

[slowmotion]

the car was as stated . if "your uncle" would have looked at the pics that i had sent him and i had brought with me he would have send that it was a restoration. i even took pics of the underside of the car and any other pics that he wanted,but NO he didn't even want to look at the pics of the restoration that i had with me. i alos had a couple of thousand dollars worth of extra parts that i was going to just give him.
well anyway i have sold the car and the party that i sold it to was very happy with the deal.
his "uncle" would even offer to help pay for the expenses. If the man would have responded to my e-mail I would have offered to split the expenses, but he wouldn't answer my e-mail.
he did have them listed under 2 names and i have the ads to prove it because i am saving everything that is put on this site . if i wanted to i could probably sue him for slander for calling me a liar because like i stated before i had and still have all the pics. of the car in question.
thanks for the time

Post the pics of the car.

[skatou]

I SAW THE PICS IT LOOKED LIKE A VERY NICE CAR BUT WE ALL KNOW PICTURES ARE JUST THAT PICTURES. ITS NOT THE CAR IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE.IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SUEING I GUESS WE BOTH CAN SUE YOU FOR YOU CALLING US SCAMMERS IS THAT NOT SLANDER?AND YES HE DID HAVE IT LISTED UNDER TWO NAMES AS I EXPLAINED ALREADY IF YOU WERE PAYING ATTENTION. SEE ITS THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL YOU LACK.

[skatou]

IM DONE TALKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IM SURE WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH.IM SKATOU IN ARLINGTON HEIGHTS AND HAVE MY UNCLES CAR LISTED GALAXIE 500 AND HE ALSO HAS IT LISTED OUT OF DARIEN IM NOT A SCAMMER AND NEITHER IS HE AND I HAVE BEEN BUYING AND SELLING CARS ON HERE FOR A WHILE.

[ss427nova]

I SAW THE PICS IT LOOKED LIKE A VERY NICE CAR BUT WE ALL KNOW PICTURES ARE JUST THAT PICTURES. ITS NOT THE CAR IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE.IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SUEING I GUESS WE BOTH CAN SUE YOU FOR YOU CALLING US SCAMMERS IS THAT NOT SLANDER?AND YES HE DID HAVE IT LISTED UNDER TWO NAMES AS I EXPLAINED ALREADY IF YOU WERE PAYING ATTENTION. SEE ITS THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL YOU LACK.

It's NOT slander, it's Libel! Get that right! And good luck proving who was behind the keys when he was "libeled"!