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spanky4888
07-10-2008, 06:31 AM
I have a 235" Cameron 4-link dragster, and I want to replace the wishbone with an x-link. My lower bars are 17" long, and the mounting holes on the chassis and rear-end are 16.5" wide (center to center). Does anyone have one of these? Any advice is appreciated....

Thanks
Spanky

hammertime
07-10-2008, 12:06 PM
I have a 235" Cameron 4-link dragster, and I want to replace the wishbone with an x-link. My lower bars are 17" long, and the mounting holes on the chassis and rear-end are 16.5" wide (center to center). Does anyone have one of these? Any advice is appreciated....

Thanks
Spanky

You can get one made pretty easy from most dragster shops.
www.diamondracecars.com give Dan a call

johnracer
07-10-2008, 02:12 PM
Any advantage/disadvantage to a x-link as apposed to a conventional 4-link? My 63 Vette roadster has the x-link. Is it the same as a swing arm?
Later,
Johnny

sg1586
07-11-2008, 03:08 AM
Here's the X-link from Vanishing point.... They have made one of them for a friend of mine....

hammertime
07-11-2008, 10:21 AM
Any advantage/disadvantage to a x-link as apposed to a conventional 4-link? My 63 Vette roadster has the x-link. Is it the same as a swing arm?
Later,
Johnny

Less body/chassis roll with a x link/swingarm setup

johnracer
07-11-2008, 04:32 PM
Thanks David. Mine has no body roll at all, but I'm still having trouble getting it to 60' where it should....I could REALLY use some advice/help from someone who knows his stuff. Any suggestions?
Later,
Johnny

zipper06
07-11-2008, 08:20 PM
Are we setting ourselfs up to go the moon with all these changes, i personally can't see more than a couple hundreds with a change from a wishbone to an X-LINK, body roll who cares as long as the car hooks and goes straight when you're bracking racing. As far as i know there's no index, except in NHRA classes, and as long as the car is consistint, it's then up to the driver to win. I don't know what's good or bad but we run alnite long with a hard tail 235", small blk.on alchol injection 4.80's.
I guess if you have unlimited funds you should try everything just to say you done that been there, but that's not what wins in brk. racing.

JMO

Zip.

hammertime
07-12-2008, 02:32 AM
Thanks David. Mine has no body roll at all, but I'm still having trouble getting it to 60' where it should....I could REALLY use some advice/help from someone who knows his stuff. Any suggestions?
Later,
Johnny

I agree with the post above a swingarm/xlink isnt the ticket here IMO I see no advantage to them other then chassis/body roll at the big end when playing the throttle game, but there is a lot of difference there.

When you say having trouble getting the 60's where it should be, you mean its just slow to the 60 ? Give me some more info on your setup and #'s then we can go from there.

johnracer
07-12-2008, 04:55 AM
Yes, it's just slow to the 60. I really shouldn't bitch because it's pretty consistent, I just know it'd be a lot quicker if it would 60 like most cars this fast.
The car is a 63 Vette roadster, 107" wheelbase, 839hp RM 522, glide w/1.80 low, 5800 stall, 4.29 gear, 33x16 D1 Goodyears, x-link w/antiroll bar, strut front, 2170#'s full of fuel & me. Current IC is 51.5" at 4.3" high.
Best et to date was this spring in Tucson and haven't been to lower altitude since. Ran 8.44 @ 160.19 with a 1.202 60'. Corrected altitude was 3666'.
Here in Colorado, the best et is 8.607 @ 157.89 with a 1.22 60' @ 6238'. It rarely 60's that quick. Usually it's in the 1.25-1.27 range w/1.27 being normal running mid 8.70's and low 80's @ 154 or so. This past weekend at 8100', ran low 90's at 152 w/1.27 60's all day. We had a 15-20mph quartering headwind all day too so I wasn't surprized by the et.
I've run tire pressures as low a 4 and as high as 6 and adjusted the suspension quite a bit with little effect. It really doesn't seem to respond to adjustments as it should. Of course it's possible I just expect too much, or I don't know what I'm doing. Let me know what you think.
Thanks,
Johnny

zipper06
07-12-2008, 09:59 PM
Are we setting ourselfs up to go the moon with all these changes, i personally can't see more than a couple hundreds with a change from a wishbone to an X-LINK, body roll who cares as long as the car hooks and goes straight when you're bracking racing. As far as i know there's no index, except in NHRA classes, and as long as the car is consistint, it's then up to the driver to win. I don't know what's good or bad but we run alnite long with a hard tail 235", small blk.on alchol injection 4.80's.
I guess if you have unlimited funds you should try everything just to say you done that been there, but that's not what wins in brk. racing.

JMO

Zip.

First of all i would like to appolagize for this post :oops: I donot know anything about X-LINKS, i only know about cross links and wishbones and solid mounts, i've never run an X-LINK so i'm not qualified to even talk about one. I have been [email protected], but that was 20 yrs. ago and the technogaly has changed so much that the same cars are now running [email protected]'s.
So again i appolagizes for posting on a subject that i'm not qualified to even speak on.

Zip.

spanky4888
07-14-2008, 07:06 AM
I am doing it because I think they are more safe than a wishbone.

shawnp
07-14-2008, 12:06 PM
Spanky, you might try Tommy Phillips of TNT Supercars. There are a couple adds in the classifieds that might lead you to him. I believe it was Tommy that was the 4-link wizzard for Cameron.

hammertime
07-14-2008, 02:19 PM
Yes, it's just slow to the 60. I really shouldn't bitch because it's pretty consistent, I just know it'd be a lot quicker if it would 60 like most cars this fast.
The car is a 63 Vette roadster, 107" wheelbase, 839hp RM 522, glide w/1.80 low, 5800 stall, 4.29 gear, 33x16 D1 Goodyears, x-link w/antiroll bar, strut front, 2170#'s full of fuel & me. Current IC is 51.5" at 4.3" high.
Best et to date was this spring in Tucson and haven't been to lower altitude since. Ran 8.44 @ 160.19 with a 1.202 60'. Corrected altitude was 3666'.
Here in Colorado, the best et is 8.607 @ 157.89 with a 1.22 60' @ 6238'. It rarely 60's that quick. Usually it's in the 1.25-1.27 range w/1.27 being normal running mid 8.70's and low 80's @ 154 or so. This past weekend at 8100', ran low 90's at 152 w/1.27 60's all day. We had a 15-20mph quartering headwind all day too so I wasn't surprized by the et.
I've run tire pressures as low a 4 and as high as 6 and adjusted the suspension quite a bit with little effect. It really doesn't seem to respond to adjustments as it should. Of course it's possible I just expect too much, or I don't know what I'm doing. Let me know what you think.
Thanks,
Johnny

Could be the track ? I have one track that is awful slow to the 60 1.11-1.12 most other tracks will be 1.07-1.08. I dont think your 60 is all that far off really.

johnracer
07-14-2008, 04:11 PM
Thanks David, I guess maybe I expect too much. It is a nice driving, consistent car, so I should probably leave it alone and just drive it.
Thanks again,
Johnny